Question About Haruhi Suzimya

They repeat some amount of time [I'm not sure, someone should clarify]15,498 times.

I want to know exactly how many years Haruhi and her pals have been trapped in this time loop.

I'm not sure I trust Kyon with the math.

edited 10th Jul '11 10:18:27 AM by TacoWiz

You probably should have asked this on the Haruhi thread, but since the loop was two weeks long, 26 loops would almost equal a year. If you divide 15,498 by 26 that gives you about 596 years, which isn't far off from the 594 years that Kyon said had passed.

If you want it to be more exact, it is a little more than 594 years (multiply 15,498 by 14 to find how many days, divide by 1461 to find out how many sets of 4 years there are [to take into account for the leap years], and then multiply by 4.)

edited 10th Jul '11 10:36:35 AM by Pokénatic

Not quite. 26 loops is one day short of a full year (26 x 14 = 364). Since you calculated almost 596 years, that means there is actually 596 days less then you thought. Which means there is one and a half years less. Kyon's math is correct.

edited 10th Jul '11 2:04:11 PM by Heatth

Highlight the second post completely.

(15498*14)/365 = 594.44

However, this is incorrect because a year is not actually 365 days. That's why we have leap years and leap centuries. It's closer to 365.24 days per year. Adjusted for that:

(15498*14)/365.24 = 594.05

So Kyon's math is very accurate.

If you want someone to read something, perhaps it is not a good idea to make it look blank.

edited 10th Jul '11 2:09:43 PM by Clarste

Lesson of the day: Do trust Kyon's math.

I believe the author, Tanigawa, is, at last, a math enthusiastic. Or maybe even have math degree at college. There is short story, in one of the books, which the whole plot solution is based on Euler's planar graph formula. There is even figures explaining it, for the viewers to understand the plot.

You could have alwasys necro'd this thread.

Also, is it really nescessary to take into consideration the leap years? I mean, given that time simply resets itself, I would guess that the rotation of the earth does the same thing.

Not really. But we are calculating how many years would have passed. To be really precise, you need to remember the leap years. Most of people wouldn't bother.

But at that scale it makes a pretty big difference. The leap year days added half a year.

Half a year of almost 600. Most people would call it acceptable error margin.

It affects the third significant figure slightly, so it's best not to ignore it.

And yeah, the author definitely knows something about math. It feels rather forced at times, in fact, like he's shoehorning it into the story just because. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against good hard science/math in a story (in fact, I love a story where it's a well-integrated plot point), but when it's a plot point out of nowhere, unrelated to anything else, just because the author likes it to be...

(I do appreciate the fact that the time travel is kept straight though. Self-consistent histories are the neatest way to deal with time travel, IMHO.)

edited 10th Jul '11 10:33:11 PM by ashnazg