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Bailey from Next Sunday, A.D. Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jul 9th 2011 at 11:20:03 PM

So this is... a theory. With a chart. No link to a YKTTW, no examples, and a little note telling us not to edit the article. Hmm.

Unless there's a story behind this (previously existing terminology that I've never heard of, maybe?), this is looking cutlistable. It does have a weirdly healthy number of inbounds though, so here's me asking.

SakurazakiSetsuna Together Forever... Since: Jun, 2010
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#2: Jul 9th 2011 at 11:35:13 PM

Huh...thats...certainly something.

Leaper Since: May, 2009
#3: Jul 9th 2011 at 11:49:52 PM

I'm tempted to go into the main body of the page and change all sorts of things, just to be contrary. This is a wiki, right?

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#5: Jul 10th 2011 at 12:45:06 AM

It's actually pretty funny, and not as insane as it appeared at first glance, and it is indexed on Just for Fun, which is clearly where it belongs. I don't see any reason to cut it, but all the "don't touch" stuff probably needs to go. If the author wants his own precious version kept pristine, sites like Google Pages are probably a more appropriate place.

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Bailey from Next Sunday, A.D. Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Jul 10th 2011 at 1:19:06 AM

I actually didn't notice it's in Just for Fun. (It's linked in another, tropier index, too.)

Still, I always thought Just for Fun was more for troper in-jokes and collective, community stuff. It would strike me as kind of loopholely if anything can be launched there without a YKTTW and there's no review process.

I get the joke the guy's going for — the distinction it's based on just strikes me as arbitrary. The Law of Conservation of Ninjutsu is funny because of the way it's explained and because it's explaining something totally, observably true in fiction — which is probably why it passed YTTKW and has a healthy example section. This sidekick theory seems as though all the components are artificially stacked to support a conclusion that isn't observably the case, just for the hell of it.

If I could think of even one example that shakes out like this, I'd probably find it funnier. (How often does The Hero really have an 'opposite number' who is not The Big Bad? If anything, this guy's math indicates the unbalancing factor is The Hero, which is not really surprising.)

edited 10th Jul '11 11:18:34 AM by Bailey

RegShoe Awfully negative from over there somewhere. Since: Feb, 2015
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#7: Jul 10th 2011 at 2:21:02 AM

Oh god, this old thing?

Is mine. And I had totally forgotten I had even put it here. I have no idea why I put that utterly anti-wiki statement on the top, naiveté probably as I was only about a 3 monther on the site at the time, I think. I never even indexed it (at the time I still hadn't worked indexes out, I had relied on people fixing my tropes to an index later).

So in short, I the creator of this page heartily endorse the removal of the precious little protectives, although probably not a cut.

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Bailey from Next Sunday, A.D. Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Jul 10th 2011 at 11:14:00 AM

^ How would you feel about taking it through a round of YKTTW? You describe this as "an observation about the typical layout of good vs. evil wars" which sounds very much like it ought to have examples if the observation is valid.

RegShoe Awfully negative from over there somewhere. Since: Feb, 2015
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#9: Jul 10th 2011 at 12:11:31 PM

Go for it if you feel it would help. To be honest I care little for this thing.

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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#10: Jul 10th 2011 at 12:22:11 PM

Where are the inbounds coming from for this?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#11: Jul 10th 2011 at 1:00:37 PM

That's a lot of inbounds for a joke page.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#12: Jul 10th 2011 at 1:23:19 PM

Obviously somebody finds it funny! I dunno, to me, it's the surface appearance of complete insanity coupled with a decent and obviously tongue-in-cheek internal pseudo-logic that makes this work, even if it isn't quite up to the standards of Conservation of Ninjutsu.

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Bailey from Next Sunday, A.D. Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Jul 10th 2011 at 4:12:32 PM

I don't mean this as a slight to the page itself, but is there any chance there's an issue with the inbound counter?

4,230 non-search engine inbounds with only 3 wicks, and I'm only getting 8 google hits for the title — all of which are from TV Tropes or link farming sites. 4,230 is more inbounds than some tropes that are kilowicked have. How would that many people even have known this was here?

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