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#11926: Jan 12th 2018 at 6:58:49 AM

So it can become another generic Ubisoft sandbox? No, I don't feel the urgent need to put on the nostalgia glasses.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#11927: Jan 12th 2018 at 9:03:45 AM

Yeah, researching your enemies before you strike made the game much more interesting.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#11928: Jan 12th 2018 at 9:14:06 AM

[up] If they could implement that in a more organic way - missions with Origins more open world approach to the NP Cs daily rhythms, that'd be great.

I enjoyed how you can just run into your target and end up slotting them by mistake almost. Maybe have missions that open up more avenues, but that (if you want) you can go barreling in against a whole garrison...

Remember Freedom Fighters? Where taking out elements and doing side missions actively changed your opponents and the difficulty on other missions. Something akin to that, but in an open world setting would be good - AC would work with it, as it'd mean guards could be poisoned, ships damaged etc. Chaining linear missions into an open world is starting to be more glaring. Origins is pretty good with keeping things MOSTLY open but the missions are still relatively independent of the world.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#11929: Jan 12th 2018 at 9:18:49 AM

Dialog does change though. If you clear out a garrison and kill its captain, then if you are required to do so for a mission, Bayek will mention it.

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Lost in Space
#11930: Jan 12th 2018 at 9:27:47 AM

That only happened once or twice. The way it seems to work most of the time is that the quest NPCs spawn independently of garrison soldiers, but if you've already cleared the garrison, there will be significantly less opposition when you go there in the future. It's still generally more efficient to clear the whole thing in one go, of course.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#11931: Jan 12th 2018 at 10:20:52 AM

Yeah, researching your enemies before you strike made the game much more interesting.

AC 1 is fine as an idea, but the construction is... lacking. Besides the awful "Get information on your target by doing totally unrelated tasks" the main plot, in particular its development of Altair's character, is kind of awful. "Hey Altair, I know Al Mualim told you to come murder a guy and see me for the details, but I will not give you the details on this mission unless you go get a number of flags. Or win a race. Or something. Look I am bored. No one from Masyaf ever visits!"

edited 12th Jan '18 10:27:25 AM by Ghilz

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#11932: Jan 12th 2018 at 7:03:00 PM

I mean a "true" remaster as the same game but on an updated engine with better graphics. Maybe a little new content here and there and big fixes, but it looks as though the game were made this year, not the original game with a layer of polish on it.

I suppose maybe I have a different definition compared to most between remaster and remake. I consider a remake to be retelling and updating the actual content and story. Maybe the bosses are different and that one dangling plot hole isn't there any more. The story maybe makes more sense. The damsel prize character has been rewritten to fix the problems.

To me, a remaster is fundementally the same content and game as released in the first place and beat for beat pretty much the same story, but as though it were released this year.

and then we have the "Remaster" where the old game gets ported to the next gen, has the exact same engine, and MAYBE upscale textures (but still kind of underwhelming because it's still not that detailed). Skyrim Remastered is this kind of remaster where I'd consider the update little more than a texture pack.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#11933: Jan 12th 2018 at 7:45:11 PM

That sounds like they would have to overhaul ALL the artwork, though, which seems a lot of work for a mere remaster with limited sales prospects.

Optimism is a duty.
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#11934: Jan 12th 2018 at 8:03:31 PM

and then we have the "Remaster" where the old game gets ported to the next gen, has the exact same engine, and MAYBE upscale textures (but still kind of underwhelming because it's still not that detailed). Skyrim Remastered is this kind of remaster where I'd consider the update little more than a texture pack.

It's not actually. Skyrim Special Edition uses Fallout 4's engine (Which is a newer version of the homebrew of the same Gamebryo all of the Bethesda's games run on since Morrowind, but still, different engines). It's why Skyrim mods had to be re-made for Skyrim SE.

In fact "Texture pack" is also wrong as Skyrim SE uses the same texture (Due to what [up] said) as the old game. It uses new lighting effects, particle effects and shaders to make those better.

edited 12th Jan '18 8:11:35 PM by Ghilz

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11935: Jan 13th 2018 at 7:39:56 AM

Honestly, if they redo the first game, the big thing that needs to be addressed is the combat system. That barely holds up in the face of II, let alone the post-Ezio games.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#11936: Jan 14th 2018 at 6:25:15 PM

I just played The Last Maharaja and I have to say it was very disappointing. The gameplay was fun as an adventure but I'm not sure what really was the goal there as historically, the guy doesn't accomplish anything and you don't do anything to effect the situation for India in the game. The lack of assassination targets was a big loss as well.

I like Duleep Singh's character but it strikes me as an odd place to end the Frye's story.

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#11937: Jan 14th 2018 at 6:37:23 PM

[up]It was pre-order DLC that honesty should have been released long before Jack the Ripper came out.

[up][up]@ Remaster conversation.

Ok, Maybe I shouldn't have assigned my descriptions the language I did, but even if Skyrim Remastered is on a different engine, it fundementally looks and plays the exact same as the original with almost no edits, pretty much to a fault even. There's a reason that the Remaster was given to PC owners for free: They ultimately didn't get much from the remaster because the textures are still fairly low res, models aren't up to the Next Gen level, and anything added via lighting or even textures has been done and done better via mods.

That's ultimately my issue with 'Next Gen Port' remasters. Their only goal is to get a lucrative successful game onto a newer console to milk money with no attempt to better the product to modern standards and maybe even give fans a better experience than they had before. Its just porting the old game to a new console. End of line. And I think that's kind of shitty when those remasters/remakes/what have you could do so much more for the product (especially at a $60 price point) to let us revisit a game we clearly loved.

Meanwhile, said remasters will be a stain on any discussion for ACTUALLY bringing the game back with better graphics. "Why remake it AGAIN?! We just did that two years ago at $60! No one will buy it again! You're milking the product and your customers for more money every year and are everything wrong with the gaming community!" Never mind if the actual intention was to rebuild it with modern graphics, like comparing the 2nd Tomb Raider Reboot to the 2013 Reboot.

I'd also argue that remastering/remaking it in such away, while probably time consuming and more resource using than, well, simply porting it to next gen which is probably EXTREMELY cheap by comparison, it's probably less so than full game development. You have the entire ready made product right there complete with levels, character designs, dialogue, and everything right before you. You'd have to rebuild it polygon by polygon in higher resolution and etc, but the actual game development portion is already complete.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11938: Jan 14th 2018 at 8:12:53 PM

[up][up]Their story ends with the Jack the Ripper DLC, which takes place 20 years after the main game.

Also, anyone have advice on how not to get stomped flat by Elephants? Especially when they start spamming smoke bombs?

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#11939: Jan 14th 2018 at 9:20:24 PM

Eh,

Assassins Creed: Rogue SHOULD have been a simultaneous release on Xbox 360 and Xbox One. The fact it wasn't released on Xbox One due to Unity and wasn't made backward compatible is something that has always been sort of a problem.

It's been a redheaded stepchild in part because people liked it more than UNITY when it was a shameless cash grab.

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Lost in Space
#11940: Jan 15th 2018 at 4:01:52 AM

[up][up] The most effective way to beat elephants is to dodge at an angle towards them, not away, then whack at their flanks. They do a lot less damage from the rear, even if you do get hit by a stomp. Smoke bombs are just a matter of anticipation.

Also, I had the best success when I equipped a weapon with the Cursed power. It makes the fights a lot shorter for one thing, but it also has the distinct benefit of blowing right past each elephant's last 10% health, when they go into their enrage phase. Save one final Overpower and let it fly.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#11941: Jan 15th 2018 at 4:25:38 AM

[up][up] I think that was also because it gave us MOAR SAILING. Which Ubisoft have fumbled and instead made a multiplayer pirate game, when all people wanted was just more of the sailing combat against enemies, but with different ship types...

I never finished Syndicate - loved it but never got to the end. These open worlds are burning me out.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11942: Jan 15th 2018 at 12:56:39 PM

Patch is coming tomorrow, as prep for the first DLC later this month.

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1825220-Assassin-s-Creed-Origins-1-2-0-Patch-Notes

Great to see they are making the races easier.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#11943: Jan 15th 2018 at 2:41:43 PM

I can't wait to see the free roam mode.

And I'm glad they are fixing the races.

Optimism is a duty.
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Lost in Space
#11944: Jan 15th 2018 at 4:33:56 PM

Funny thing is that I managed to win the tournament after the last patch, although I didn't attempt the heroic difficulty ones (or whatever they're called). I may go back and do that this time.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#11945: Jan 15th 2018 at 11:13:04 PM

ghhhhfhfhhhg

guys

Having a rig that runs the game at max fps makes a world of difference

holy shit guys

I can count people's nose hairs

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#11946: Jan 16th 2018 at 10:14:27 AM

You know what's BS?

You can't start a new game in Assassins Creed: Syndicate without deleting your previous game completely.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11947: Jan 16th 2018 at 1:05:16 PM

Just beat Origins main plot. I still need to do the Elephants, the first tournament race (for the achievement) and a handful of other things (namely, blowing up guys with jars and getting a headshot while falling). Difficulty, both in general and in terms of getting achievements, was among the lowest in the franchise (I'd say its the 2nd easiest game, after II), though I only played on normal.

Overall, I enjoyed it. The plot and main characters were good, the mission design was solid and the open world and sidequests were fantastic. The modern plot left a lot to be desired (felt like it was an obvious cliffhanger for DLC/another sequel, and I never really understood what the modern Assassins gained from Bayek's memories, because I'm pretty sure that his piece of Eden would have been taken at some point....), I was rather disappointed to learn that mounts and outfits were totally cosmetic (and they expect us to pay for some of those with real money?) and the targets were bland and nearly all just were the typical sociopathic Templars we've been dealing with since Cesare.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#11948: Jan 16th 2018 at 2:16:36 PM

I really hope they make a sequel because Cleopatra, Augustus, and Anthony is about 400% more interesting than the Ptolemy and Caesar part of the story.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#11949: Jan 16th 2018 at 3:28:23 PM

[up] Considering they barely covered the Caesar part of the history anyway, my hopes aren't high.

Julius Caesar is one of the most interesting people in history whose motivations are still debated over 2000 years later. None of that comes across in the game. He's just this guy.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#11950: Jan 16th 2018 at 3:29:43 PM

Well, Egypt was basically his day off. By the time you've met him, he's had the big dramatic climax of his story already by Pharsalus.

I'd definitely say Caesar and Pompey having their showdown is probably the most flat out exciting bit of this specific period militarily. Octavian V Antony and Cleopatra is more of a cold war (which can be exciting as well, but it's just harder to execute).

edited 16th Jan '18 3:31:07 PM by Sigilbreaker26

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