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#1: Jun 25th 2011 at 9:50:10 AM

The article covers Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, and some other material connected to the stories and characters of those two movies.

I suggest it be renamed to Bill And Ted to reflect the fact that it's about the whole franchise rather than just the first movie.

Edited due to custom title screwiness.

edited 25th Jun '11 9:53:41 AM by VampireBuddha

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Jun 25th 2011 at 10:50:35 AM

I propose instead making a page for both movies, and making Bill And Ted a list for all works covering those guys (since there were a couple shows).

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#3: Jun 25th 2011 at 2:35:56 PM

No, I think the movies, shows, and whatever else works just fine as a single page, which should be called Bill And Ted.

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#4: Jun 25th 2011 at 2:42:35 PM

Just change it to Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures.

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#5: Jun 26th 2011 at 3:45:13 PM

[up]That's too confusing, since it's similar to an existing title. But Bill And Ted is too generic. So I don't know which is better.

I know Bill And Ted's Adjective Noun won't work.

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#6: Jun 27th 2011 at 7:23:19 AM

The first movie is by far the most famous. Redirects Are Free.

savage Nice Hat from an underground bunker Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Jun 27th 2011 at 7:25:38 AM

[up]Then the page should be Bill And Ted, to refer to the franchise, and Bill And Teds Excellent Adventure should be a redirect.

Edit: There are some WEIRD Ptitle issues going on when you make a link to Bill(nospace)And(nospace)Ted.

edited 27th Jun '11 7:27:39 AM by savage

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#8: Jun 27th 2011 at 7:37:16 AM

Bug in the title customizer. According to the form, it should already be displaying as "Bill and Ted".

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#9: Jun 27th 2011 at 7:42:29 AM

If its a bug like that would just a full page rename work? (would allow for removal of Ptitle too)

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#10: Sep 18th 2011 at 5:39:32 PM

I think we should move this to "Bill and Ted" (or "Bill & Ted") and reorganize the page around.

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#12: Sep 25th 2011 at 6:46:31 PM

Then we should make the main page "Bill & Ted" with custom-titled redirects for Bill And Teds Excellent Adventure, Bill And Teds Bogus Journey, Bill And Teds Excellent Adventures, Bill And Ted 3 (once there's info), etc. (if there's not already)

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#13: Sep 26th 2011 at 1:58:49 AM

What? Why would we custom title the redirects? That's just asinine.

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#14: Sep 26th 2011 at 11:22:46 AM

When multiple works are covered by the same page, I think it makes sense to custom title the redirects for the individual works. With tropes, the redirects are mainly for searching, so there's no point, but this is different. If the page ever grows to the point that we decide to do a hard split, a lot of the wicks will be ready to go.

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#15: Sep 26th 2011 at 12:08:31 PM

It prevents the text from showing up as typed, that always irks me when typing a name.

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#16: Sep 26th 2011 at 12:15:25 PM

I assume he just means custom-titling them so BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure shows up as "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" rather than "Bill And Teds Excellent Adventure". Not making BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure show up as "Bill and Ted".

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#17: Sep 26th 2011 at 12:38:46 PM

Okay, that's not something I have a problem with.

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#18: Oct 1st 2011 at 2:52:34 PM

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

I vote moving the main page to "Bill & Ted", make redirects for each installment, and cut down the description.

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#19: Oct 1st 2011 at 9:28:14 PM

Totally support the move and setting up the redirects as discussed. No opinion on the description, which I haven't read.

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#20: Oct 16th 2011 at 7:34:43 AM

And while we're at it, it should also be moved to the Film/ namespace.

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#21: Oct 16th 2011 at 10:12:05 AM

Individual installments go in medium-specific namespaces. The franchise itself (which includes a cartoon spinoff) goes in Main.

edited 16th Oct '11 10:12:30 AM by Stratadrake

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#22: Oct 25th 2011 at 5:39:24 PM

Should we keep all the stuff in one page or split it into several pages? Do we need a crowner?

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#23: Nov 15th 2011 at 1:14:10 PM

I went ahead and reorganized everything. I hope I didn't miss anything. (Waiting for somebody to point something out...)

By the way, there weren't any tropes for either tv series. I didn't start pages because there's no content for them. I think they have the cartoon on Netflix, so I could watch a few episodes.

edited 15th Nov '11 1:16:00 PM by hotrods4ben

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#24: Nov 15th 2011 at 10:04:02 PM

Need to change the wiks to point at the right page(s). Also, I corrected the page type (changed from "redirect" to "disambiguation that does indexing").

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