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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
Bowser3000000 Since: Feb, 2015
#3377: Jul 9th 2016 at 10:27:39 PM

How would will fit canon Homura in the 2814 universe? I think that first will get to be "befriended" by our resident green devil or being lectured by Sailor Pluto about messing with the space/continuum

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#3378: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:41:15 AM

Homura would have experienced them thousands of times since her days as Moemura, so she knows how to stay out of their way.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#3379: Jul 10th 2016 at 6:23:20 AM

Would Pluto let her off the hook during these first few Moemoura iterations, though? That's kind of hard to see.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#3380: Jul 10th 2016 at 6:46:21 AM

From Pluto's perspective, there's only been 1 incident, the jump that led to Homura waking up in the hospital a few days before school. And we know she's kinda crap at her job, so…

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#3381: Jul 10th 2016 at 7:35:19 AM

So, Pluto-sama cannot get information from her AU counterpart? Because if she can, then after 10 iteration or so Homura is screwed either way; Pluto-sama wouldn't really like potential Earth-ending nuke walking around in Japan, especially after informed by AU!Pluto that, yes, she did that in Alternate Universe.

Except that somehow this Homura can backstab her universe counterpart of Pluto, Every, Single, Time...

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#3382: Jul 10th 2016 at 7:37:00 AM

Anyone seen the Vivid Strike announcement? I hope they put out promos soon.

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Bowser3000000 Since: Feb, 2015
#3383: Jul 10th 2016 at 5:07:05 PM

But suppose for a moment What would happen if 2814's Homura sees a glimpse of her post-Rebellion counterpart, her future-self that decided to backstab Mado Kami?

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#3384: Jul 10th 2016 at 5:48:27 PM

The ending is different here. Technically, the future self she'd catch a glimpse of is the one who regularly wanders the world doing a Doctor Who impersonation.

Bowser3000000 Since: Feb, 2015
#3385: Jul 13th 2016 at 12:14:12 PM

In canon who is the more powerful magical girl Illya, Eternal Sailor Moon or Nanoha?

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#3386: Jul 13th 2016 at 12:56:57 PM

In term of access on raw firepower, I tend think that Eternal Sailor Moon is the strongset. Girl take on inter-dimensional, galactic level threat and come out on the top. Even Canon!Hal Jordan wasn't really up there, at least in in earlier run.

In the level of notoriety, though, I tend to think Nanoha is actually better. I mean, most interstellar threat will buckle down when they have to face Green Lantern. With Nanoha, though? They'll just expedite the process and handcuffing themselves in process (more reason to escape paperwork).

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#3387: Jul 13th 2016 at 5:42:46 PM

Usagi will eventually come to rule over a whole empire as a demigoddess figure, which I think trumps Nanoha's fame and prestige for a long shot.

edited 13th Jul '16 5:42:57 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Bowser3000000 Since: Feb, 2015
#3388: Jul 13th 2016 at 8:03:23 PM

Yeah but The White Devil's legend will keep spreading until the ends of time by those who were trained by her

shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#3389: Jul 13th 2016 at 8:25:32 PM

Sailor Moon has more raw power, tho I expect Nanoha is better at combat. cool

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#3390: Jul 13th 2016 at 8:26:57 PM

Well, yeah. Sailor Moon's go-to final boss tactic seems to be 'watch her friends die until it motivates her enough to get off her ass'.

Bissek Since: Jun, 2010
#3391: Jul 14th 2016 at 5:03:17 AM

A good part of the fame scale will depend on how important Usagi manages to make her empire. The Green Devil is currently known to some degree in 1/3600th of the galaxy, while the Senshi have so far remained in a system that is regarded by most people who don't live there as a backwater. So Sailor Moon could end up more renowned locally while Green Lantern is more famous overall.

In other Senshi/GL related news, last week the Juno satellite started orbiting Jupiter. Since it was launched well before Nanoha made her views clear on the subject of interplanetary littering, there's a good chance that a year and a half from now, NASA will be getting another ticket, and Makoto will find herself in possession of the custom LEGO minifigs (Of Zeus, Hera, and Gallileo) that were placed inside the spacecraft as a trophy.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#3392: Jul 14th 2016 at 7:12:20 AM

1/3600th of the universe, not just the galaxy.

Sailor Moon gets more cred when Sailor Galaxia reveals who it was exactly who finally defeated her.

Ugh, I really need to get back on the series…

edited 14th Jul '16 7:14:29 AM by SCMof2814

Bowser3000000 Since: Feb, 2015
#3393: Jul 15th 2016 at 6:47:34 PM

How hard could be include the MCU to the 2814 verse because it could be interesting see Nanoha fight Thanos for example

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#3394: Jul 15th 2016 at 6:53:06 PM

It'd be awkward as hell to retcon SHIELD in without explaing why they were never mentioned even when Superman was directing Darkseid's forces on Earth.

unlikelyauthor from the forge Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#3395: Jul 15th 2016 at 8:11:08 PM

Unless we have Rin trying to work on the jewel sword, Luvia starts trolling, cat fight ensues, BOOM. Next thing you know, Director Coulson wants to know why the hell he and half his staff are in the basement of a mansion in Japan, no one he talks to have ever heard of HYDRA, SHIELD, Captain America, and any number of other things as anything but stories. Oh yah aparently, there's a bunch of people he never heard of in tights and a glowing little girl that wants him to fill out some paperwork.

Edit: This sounded so much funnier and coherent in my head, I swear.

edited 15th Jul '16 8:13:27 PM by unlikelyauthor

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Bowser3000000 Since: Feb, 2015
#3396: Jul 16th 2016 at 1:07:05 PM

[up] Actually I think that you could use that argument or use the Secret Wars to retcon the 2814 verse or even use the Avengers/JLA crossover to include the MCU [tup]

Tikigod784 from Somewhere in Nevada Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#3397: Jul 17th 2016 at 12:50:34 AM

That would make things more complicated than it was worth. Unequally seemed to have Marvel and DC in there from the start, so it can be explained, but 2814 has gone on a little too long for a Marvel tie-in to be reasonable.

I mean heck, I'm pretty sure some of the writers for Marvel or DC flat-out said that the day Marvel and DC canonically cross over, would be the day they were out of ideas and would herald the end of their franchises.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#3398: Jul 17th 2016 at 1:14:11 AM

Is that why they're pretending JLA versus Avengers never happened, even though it was a really good story in a really bad period?

Tikigod784 from Somewhere in Nevada Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#3399: Jul 17th 2016 at 2:11:39 AM

ANYTHING that shakes up the status quo never happened. tongue

JohnVsTheWorld Has many questions. Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#3400: Jul 17th 2016 at 7:55:24 AM

"the day Marvel and DC canonically cross over, would be the day they were out of ideas and would herald the end of their franchises. "

By that logic, they should have done it years ago.


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