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First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.

With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.

First, a few starter questions.

  • How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
  • Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
    • Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
  • Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
  • Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?

Also, a personal question from me.

  • Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?

edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf

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#27277: Nov 21st 2023 at 4:08:30 PM

[up] The article mentions that he did plead guilty for the murder of George Floyd. Why is he trying to get an appeal?

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jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#27279: Nov 21st 2023 at 4:27:05 PM

[up][up]

From The Guardian.

In October, Chauvin’s legal defense requested the highest court in their nation take up their client’s case, arguing he was denied a fair trial in 2021 because of prejudice in the pretrial due to publicity.

They also argued juror misconduct, alleging that it was in the jurors’ best interest to find Chauvin guilty to avoid threats of violence from the public.

Edited by jawal on Nov 21st 2023 at 1:27:40 PM

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#27280: Nov 23rd 2023 at 10:11:55 AM

Not sure if this is the right topic to talk about it, or if there's a topic specific for Native Americans' issues, but is it bad that I would refuse to celebrate Thanksgiving if I was American, because I would find it to be insensitive to them?

(I have nothing against people who do celebrate Thanksgiving, though)

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jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#27281: Nov 23rd 2023 at 10:22:17 AM

I am not American, but you have the right to not celebrate anything you want for whatever reason.

Unlike most people in my country, I don't celebrate Aïd al-Adha because I am against the killing of animals, and I don't feel bad about it.

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#27282: Nov 23rd 2023 at 10:23:08 AM

[up][up] Australia Day gets a lot of the same reactions, for the same reasons. As does New Zealand's Waitangi Day, although that's also more focused on Māori issues and takes a different perspective to the other two.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 23rd 2023 at 6:23:30 PM

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#27283: Dec 3rd 2023 at 5:09:33 AM

Fox News host Brian Kilmeade defends slave owners.

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#27284: Dec 3rd 2023 at 5:20:53 AM

By now you should know Fox news fox news defending slavery isn't even that surprising.

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#27285: Dec 3rd 2023 at 7:29:10 AM

Kilmeade made the remarks on The Charlie Kirk Show

Yeah, just as expected.

Preaching to the choir.

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#27286: Dec 3rd 2023 at 2:45:06 PM

The Guardian: New Zealand's right-wing coalition government has announced plans to "review" the terms of the Treaty of Waitangi, the country's founding document (de facto constitution) which affirms the sovereign status of the Māori people. This includes the plans to reveal and review many legislations and institutions enacted since the 1975 establishment of the Waitangi Commission, including health initiatives and the use of the Māori language in public service.

Announcing the changes on Friday, [Christopher] Luxon, the prime minister, said voters wanted services provided on the basis of need, not race, and he was “strengthening democracy” for all New Zealanders. He told the Post newspaper: “There are some things there that we just need a bit of rebalancing and a bit of clarity.”

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#27287: Dec 3rd 2023 at 4:56:49 PM

Translation: they’re going to take away rights from Māori. Because they’re racist. And evil.

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#27288: Dec 3rd 2023 at 5:14:29 PM

That sounds a lot like the same "no racial laws" playbook that was (successfully) used against Australia's indigenous Voice referendum.

I hope NZ doesn't take that path.

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#27289: Dec 4th 2023 at 4:51:34 PM

> rebalancing and a bit of clarity.”

rough translation "allow us to define what is considered "balanced" and let us weaken existing protections"

Edited by Ultimatum on Dec 4th 2023 at 12:51:41 PM

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#27290: Dec 4th 2023 at 5:12:36 PM

“Rebalancing” means tipping the scales in favor of white people.

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#27291: Dec 5th 2023 at 8:47:28 AM

King Charles and Kate Middleton were revealed to be the two Royals who expressed "concern" about Archie's skin color.

I fully expect this from Charles but I was really surprised by Kate's racism given her working class background. It really shows that when you surround yourself with racist people your values got eroded.

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#27293: Dec 5th 2023 at 9:04:40 AM

Yeah, I'd take anything the guy says with a grain of salt, especially if it involves Meghan Markle in any way (considering his bizarre obsession with her).

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#27294: Dec 5th 2023 at 9:08:46 AM

[up] He is basically the palace's mouth piece at this point, to the point that he was seen very friendly with Queen Camilla. So he must have been given an Okay from the Palace, which made me think that the Golden Boy William is involved in either the racism discussion or this whole reveal, throwing his wife under the bus.

Edited by shatterstar on Dec 5th 2023 at 9:09:11 AM

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#27295: Dec 5th 2023 at 9:12:10 AM

> He is basically the palace's mouth piece at this point

you forgot the word 'self appointed'

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#27296: Dec 5th 2023 at 11:57:33 AM

Yeah this is Piers Morgan (known for faking war crimes by British troops in Iraq) repeating a claim from a pulled translation of a gossip book. Not exactly a reliable source.

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#27297: Dec 5th 2023 at 3:50:19 PM

Wait, he faked War Crimes implicating British Troops? Isn't he supposed to be a Patriot?

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#27298: Dec 5th 2023 at 5:29:46 PM

No he’s just a gutter ‘journalist’, whatever it takes the sell papers/get views.

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#27299: Dec 5th 2023 at 7:17:01 PM

That stuff kinda escalated with the Dutch version of the book regarding the controversy of Archie and the royal family. The original (English) version did not mention any names due to legal liabilities if the author chose to do so.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13047108520A43173900&page=1956#comment-48879

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#27300: Dec 5th 2023 at 7:18:04 PM

He is basically the palace's mouth piece at this point

According to who?

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