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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#1: May 6th 2011 at 8:43:48 PM

Recently, I made a YKTTW trope proposal about BGM that is also present in-universe being oddly fitting to a context a character hears it in: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=dc41xubnd6ctd5ad0ha51g2n

Some users were telling me it was already Suspiciously Apropos Music, others were disagreeing; even among the latter, there was disagreement as to what the distinction was.

Well, obviously what the distinction is depends on what Suspiciously Apropos Music is. I got the impression from the description that it was specifically about an in-game musician singing original music and always sounding relevant to the plot; the description does not seem to apply to radio or phone music. What say you, TRS?

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#2: May 7th 2011 at 5:27:40 PM

Bumping because this really ought to be addressed.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#3: May 7th 2011 at 5:55:18 PM

Well, obviously what the distinction is depends on what Suspiciously Apropos Music is. I got the impression from the description that it was specifically about an in-game musician singing original music and always sounding relevant to the plot; the description does not seem to apply to radio or phone music. What say you, TRS?
That was my impression as well. I feel like a trope with the name Suspiciously Apropos Music should actually be a lot broader than what the trope with that name currently is. The trope name does not indicate to me that would be about musicians and I would guess that having such a name that makes the trope seem to encompass more than it really does would invite misuse.

I guess that means that I would prefer for a new trope to have the Suspiciously Apropos Music name be a Super-Trope (or just a different trope) with the current Suspiciously Apropos Music trope about musicians either being a subtrope or just a related trope with a different name.

edited 7th May '11 5:59:08 PM by LouieW

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#4: May 8th 2011 at 12:08:52 PM

One problem with the title is the strange word apropos. If I ever heard it outside the title, it must have been very rarely.

And I would have thought it was the other way around, as in that the current trope would be a subtrope of my YKTTW, as it does involve a subset of the general concept of my YKTTW...

captainbrass2 from the United Kingdom Since: Mar, 2011
#5: May 8th 2011 at 12:23:18 PM

Specifically on the word apropros, whilst it isn't desperately common it is a recognised English word meaning (according to my dictionary) "appropriate". It's originally a French word; "apropros de" in French means "in relation to" or "regarding" and you can use "apropros of" in English and mean the same.

We could therefore change this to "Suspiciously Appropriate Music" but there'd need to be some evidence of misuse/misunderstanding generally.

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#6: May 8th 2011 at 3:02:14 PM

For what it is worth, though, the Suspicious part still indicates the subtrope for which it is likely not even a coincidence in-universe; as in, as if someone is applying it on purpose.

And so, I think my YKTTW implies a separate enough trope. May as well keep the title for the current one, but for now, I will consider my YKTTW the supertrope, at least until someone suggests a convincing enough reason otherwise.

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