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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Aug 11th 2011 at 4:04:24 AM

Theories don't become laws, theories become "facts" I guess but definitely not laws. Scientific laws are axiomatic principles we distill from observation of the universe. The sine non qua of our scientific understanding.

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#52: Aug 11th 2011 at 4:23:30 AM

Often times people distrust the scientific community, and I don't think this is entirely unreasonable; if knowledge is power, and power corrupts, don't you think the scientific community (or at least those in charge of it) might be tempted from time to time to abuse their power? I've seen "normal" people (as opposed to scientists) imply that the ends of stopping pollution justify the means of going along with anthropogenic climate change when one in reality doubts it; what if some scientists think a similar way?

edited 11th Aug '11 4:24:47 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#53: Aug 11th 2011 at 4:51:25 AM

What sort of power do you think my knowledge of theoretical physics gives me? What about my knowledge of how to improve laser spectral output? Are we expecting me to start bringing out the laser death ray?

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#54: Aug 11th 2011 at 7:56:45 AM

[up] That's not the kind of abuse of power I was referring to. Read my post again.

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#55: Aug 11th 2011 at 2:59:15 PM

Pythagoras theory is actually a contraction of a different law, the law of cosigns.

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#56: Aug 11th 2011 at 3:25:45 PM

[up] Though you can prove it without trig.

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#57: Aug 11th 2011 at 5:10:37 PM

[up][up][up] You stated the axiom "knowledge is power, and power corrupts" which has its own meaning. "Knowledge is power" means that by knowing about something, we can control it and apply our power to it. It's pretty straightforward, it's pretty much the basis of the drive in science. It pretty much doesn't help your post make any sense.

I read your post several times. If it didn't really make much sense after the fifth go, I don't think it was my fault.

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#58: Aug 11th 2011 at 5:19:42 PM

[up] I don't understand it either.

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#59: Aug 11th 2011 at 9:04:35 PM

If you want to go deeper, you're already admitting you're a moron. Upon finishing a one year course in the general sciences, a person has access to physics, biology, geology, and astronomy. You can't graduate without knowing something about gravity, DNA, magnets, and the solar system.

Not only can you graduate without understanding even the basics of any of these topics, most people do. Especially frustrating is the gap between how much most people think they understand and how much they actually do.

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#60: Aug 11th 2011 at 9:08:35 PM

Sadly true. About half of the upper-division courses in physics are kind of a clusterfuck, but if you test well you're golden. Most of what you have to do on exams is stuff that telescopes very, very nicely if your head was clear enough to see the right approach.

edited 11th Aug '11 9:09:27 PM by Pykrete

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#61: Aug 11th 2011 at 9:30:59 PM

True facts, most people memorize information and mathematical equations they think will be on the test, without understanding it at all.

They then proceed to forget everything they learned within the next few hours, possibly via copious application of alcohol.

And then they get to the next class that relies heavily on previous concepts, and dipshits alpha through zeta go "I don't get it, that don't make no sense."

And then I seethe silently, waiting for the day I can eliminate them all. And then they come to me for tutoring, and I gladly help them by working backwards until I hit something they DO know. It never ceases to amaze me how far back I have to go in a lot of cases.

Had one person come to me halfway through physics 2 who didn't seem to understand force. How the fuck did you get a C in physics 1 without understanding FORCE?! True story. Flabberghasted me.

edited 11th Aug '11 9:31:38 PM by deathjavu

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