how about counter guardian?
this is term from fate/stay night and type moon universe
I see the Awesomeness.
Drop-Dead Cynical
Yeah, that feels like a lockout for everyone except the fans of a very specific game series.
Much as I hate to say it, Abstract Apotheosis is probably the best suggested name so far.
Rabid Fujoshi
If it's linked to the Ascend to a Higher Plane of Existence page and has a good redirect or two I think Abstract Apotheosis will be okay.
edited 28th May '11 12:38:52 AM by NoirGrimoir
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I see the Awesomeness.
Okay, everybody vote for your two second favorites for redirects.
Fight smart, not fair.
Becoming Conceptual easily seems like the most intuitive redirect. The rest are all meh at best.
edited 28th May '11 1:39:39 AM by nrjxll
The trick with alt-names is second-guessing the search terms people use — I don't see people searching for "conceptual". I'd suggest Become Concept, Become Abstract. Kinda tricky. Maybe even Abstract Character. Hmm.
edited 28th May '11 1:55:49 AM by Camacan
Lord
I don't know, I was in favor of keeping the original name, but if we aren't going to do that, then Abstract Apotheosis is the best choice. Become Conceptual, Abstract just don't really describe what's going on with this one, A painting can be conceptual, or abstract, that does not mean it's the embodiment of something. Using those terms is dumbing down for dumbing down's sake. It also sounds incredibly amateurish, but that's my opinion.
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Abstract Apotheosis has won the crowner. We're only talking redirects here.
Loser
I copied Becoming Hope's description to Abstract Apotheosis and fixed the indexes and wicks. I know that Heatth helped out by putting Becoming Hope's laconic entry on the cutlist and turning Becoming Hope into a redirect, so thanks to that troper for doing that and really helping out.
I sent a report on the page to try to get a moderator to help move over Becoming Hope's discussion page, but I think after that this rename is done.
edited 31st May '11 3:10:42 PM by LouieW
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Moved the discussion over and added a note to Renamed Tropes. Thanks Louie W.
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A previous single proposition crowner showed that there was consensus support for a renaming Becoming Hope.
I just knew that name was going to be on here as soon as the trope launched, not that it was anyone's fault, it was the best anyone could come up with at the time.
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