strawman - (v.) to willfully or inadvertently attack an argument superficially similar to the one your opponent is making in an attempt to discredit him or her; (n.) such an argument
ad hominem - talking about the person and not the argument; considered a fallacy, but I do not necessarily see it as such, especially when what is being said of the person's views pertains to the argument (e.g. discussing someone's racial biases while arguing immigration)
personal attack - something that challenges the addressee's credibility; not an inane insult like "go suck cocks" or "I wish to play jumprope with your innards"
And better than thy stroke; why swellest thou then?
Oh My
I like how bullshit is in the list...anyway...
- Good: A positive or beneficial thing. May fulfill emotional, mental, or physical needs. Also a product of superior or at least decent quality. May or may not have a moralistic bent. Said bent may or may not be very strong. Depends heavily on context.
- Bad: A negative or harmful thing. Also a product of poor or at the most decent quality. May or may not have a moralistic bent. Depends heavily on context.
- Evil: The super deluxe version of bad. Always has a strong moralistic bent. A joking way to refer to certain things we dislike. For example "Coffee is evil" is not a moral judgment on coffee (usually). It instead means "I really dislike coffee". CONTEXT, BITCHES.
- Nibbana: The final escape from Samsara. Either a total cessation of existence or a total lose of all individual traits followed by becoming one with the Universe. May also refer to a state of supreme calm that one can temporarily reach through meditation. True ever lasting Nibbana can only be achieved after death however.
- Nazi: A member of the now defunct Nationalist Socialist party that once ruled Germany. A suffix that roughly means "very particular and anal about subject-x especially where rules are concerned". Example: Grammar-nazi
- Heaven: A realm of supreme bliss. To me personally Heaven the realm of gods that all life can reach if they strive towards it and prove worthy of it. It is however impermanent and those within it are still subject to suffering. I typically use Heaven to refer to the general concept of Heaven. My personal beliefs tend to be referred to as Deva Realm.
- Hell: A realm of supreme suffering. Typically a punishment. Any being can be reborn here. I typically refer to my own personal beliefs about Hell with the word Naraka while I use Hell to refer to the general concept.
- Soul: The stream of consciousness of a being. May or may not continue on after death. The soul is not a permanent or unchanging entity.
- Afterlife: Another life beyond life as we know it in Samsara. The Deva Realm and Naraka do not count as afterlives because they are part of Samsara. Heaven and Hell in most other religions however do as that is typically the end and it is typically seen as something beyond the cycle of life.
- god: A being of great power beyond that of a human. They may or may not be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. An ever changing word. Additionally beings that exist in the Deva Realm are considered gods.
- God: The one god of Abrahamic religions who is considered to be omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. Exact views vary greatly. May also refer to a more general creator god.
- Atheism: Disbelief in God or gods. There are multiple levels of strength. Some consider the possibility of God or gods an unlikely possibility while others view it as an impossibility. As an example.
- Theism: Belief in God or gods. Like atheism there are varying levels of strength in conviction.
- Antitheism: Direct opposition to belief in God, gods, and/or religion.
- Agnosticism: The view that certain truths are unknown. Typically refers to the truth of God, gods, and other related concepts.
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
I tried defining "fascist" as "a society in which the state determines people's employment and compensation"—for instance, the one depicted in The Giver. For actual communication, though, the term seems to be useless as anything except an insult. (I encountered a similar problem when I started wondering if my fondness for ironic t-shirts qualified me as a "hipster.")
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
"Bullshit" = a statement made which may or may not be false, but the person making it doesn't really care either way - it's kind of made for effect. At least I think that's how it's defined by an Ivy League philosophy professor (name forgotten) who actually wrote a book called On Bullshit. Most people just use it to mean "Untrue, in an intense way."
"Fascist" means a follower of a political philosophy whose main belief is in that the state should always take priority over the rights of the individual and which was particularly important in Europe in the 1920s-30s. It's often misused to just mean "intolerant and authoritarian."
"Communist" means a follower of a political philosophy developed by Karl Marx and others, which asserts that all history is the history of class struggles and that it will culminate in the exploited working class taking control of the state from the exploiting bourgeoisie, then running it through the agency of the Communist party.
Your Mileage May Vary. Invoking either phrase has been known to provoke academic disputes, flame wars, tears before bedtime and excessive use of the word "bullshit". No refunds provided.
"Well, it's a lifestyle"
Writer, Artist, Ignored
I'll finish this later but so far...
1. good: Something positive that is beneficial to a livelihood or goal
2. bad: Something negative that is detrimental for some livelihood or goal
3. evil: Consciously harming or taking away the freedom of another human being or allowing them to suffer or doing something that selfishly benefits you, especially if it means others have to take whatever crap comes out of it.
4. person: Another human being
5. identity: The things that make you who you are based on what you make yourself out to be and how others may view you/.
6. sapient: It can think and feel empathize, sympathize, have emotion and capable of thinking beyond instinct
7. thought: A stream of actions that are not acted upon.
8. universe: the collection of every planet, star, galaxy and matter on this planet and all of outer space. There can be more than one on different planes of existence.
9. exist: To have matter
10. reality: Everything your are capable of seeing, touching and hearing,basically all matter that exists outside of the mind
11. surreal: Abstract
12. natural: God made it a.k.a. everything
13. supernatural: Something that can't exist base on the physical laws that limits this universe. Supernatural by definition cannot exist
14. life: All functions that allow you to move, eat, breath, etc and ties your consciousness to this mortal plane.
15. death: All functions cease to be and your consciousness no longer is attached to this plane of existence
16. soul: You, your personality, your thought process, your consciousness and subconsciousness, what makes you different from everybody else and detaches from the brain when you die. It sort of exists on another plane of existence but is tied to this one by our living.
17. free will: The ability to make decisions for yourself based on your own desires.
18. god: The term used to describe someone who can do whatever they want with no consequence
19. God: The guys that made everything. I say "Guys" because I'm convinced everybody is worshiping the same god but humanity put different window dressings for each culture.
20. afterlife: That place where your soul goes after you perish
21. Heaven: The place where are souls will be united with the creator
22. Hell: That horrible place humans invented to scare people into worshiping their particular lord and savior
23. Nirvana (Nibbāna): Same as Heaven but through the eyes of the Hindu people
24. holy: Human construct designed to make you "Closer to god"
25. faith: Belief in something
26. belief: Something you hold to be true, regardless of ehtehr or not it actually is.
27. myth: Stories of creation and gods that are basically just stories, but BIG stories.
28. knowledge: Information
29. lie: Telling something that is not a fact
30. truth: Fact
31. religion: Organized belief in a particular deity complete with rituals and tradition.
32. atheism: Belief that there is no creator
33. agnosticism: Belief that this is a creator, but just not the ones humans are talking about.
34. antitheism: Hell if I know.
35. Christianity: Belief in one single god and that he sent his son to die for our sins
36. paganism: Belief in some other non-mainstream religion. Sort of like the religion for Hipsters
37. philosophy: A system of belief and throught process along with view towards the world
38. science: Using experimentation and extensive exploration to find out how the world works
39. scientism: I don't think this is a concept
40. culture (with reference to human beings) 41. society 42. art 43. literature 44. metal (music genre): I’m not much of a guy that knows much aboutm usic but I do know that Metal is supposed to be loud with deep raspy voices and a lout of heavy drumbs and powerful guitars. Heavy drumbs are important.
45. folk (music genre): Uh, well the songs are supposed to be, lyrically, sort of traditional, but not necessarily so since Jonathan Coulton does like modern folk so between him and Peter Paul and Mary(God bless her soul), it’s sort of slow and peaceful, and a lot of acoustic guitar.
46. alternative: ecclectic music
47. hipster: The new "Emo". Remember back in the day when "Emo" was the punching bag of teens? Well now That's Hipsters with a different shtick. Hipsters are alternative/indie wannabes who believe in liking things ironically and caring for only independent or obscure things. They tend to have a specific aesthetic involving taking everything geeks like or wear(Glasses, fedoras, vests the occasional neckbeard all in moderation) and putting them all together in excess along with an annoying "Better than you mainstreams" personality.
48. emo: Goth-Wannabes. Depressed weepy "Independent" kids who cut themselves and go all "NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME".
49. goth: Basically people in love with the occult and darkness, usually like metal and rock and industrial music. Their
50. hippy: Environmentalists but with free love and high all the time. Think anarchists with a theme.
51. environmentalist
52. deep ecologist: ???
53. communist: Someone who believes ina system of government involving equality and the workers running things rather than the heead honchos that abuse their power.
54. socialist: Someone who believes the government should all the necessities such as food, home, resource gathering, and
55. fascist
56. Nazi
57. Islamofascist
58. theocratic: A system of government tied directly to the leadign religious group.
59. nationalist: Love their country much more than the patriot to the point it starts looking more xenophobic and racists and ethnocentrist than usual
60. monarchist: Someone who wants a king or queen to rule I imagine
61. patriotic: In love with their country way too much
62. republican
63. liberal
64. libertarian: Anarchist wannabes that hide behind being for “T 3 H ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION. NO CHANGES! JEFFERSON ONLY! FINAL DESTINATION”
65. progressive 66. conservative 67. neoconservative 68. reactionary 69. anarchist 70. anarcho-capitalist 71. anarcho-primitivist 72. statist
73. capitalist: People who believe in the free market ecnomy. Usually because it’s making them rich and everyone else poor and they only care for making themselves rich.
74. radical: People whose deviate from the group they’re in.
75. extremist: People who take things TOO FAR.
76. militant
77. feminist
78. bourgeoisie: They’re the rich people in french society, right?
79. Marxist 80. Stalinist 81. Modernism 82. Postmodernism 83. rationalism 84. empiricism 85. structuralism 86. post-structuralism 87. climate change 88. climate change denial 89. Tea Party movement
90. birther: The Idiots and southerners hiding their racism by claiming that Obama is not from the United States
91. truther: Same as above only throw in government conspiracies “Liberals tryign to destroy us” and Obama being not only from Kenya, but being a muslim arab trying to help the
92. New World Order: This is ‘’thing’’?
93. elitism: “We’re better than you because we few have/like X and you don’t”
94. intellectual:
95. anti-intellectual: The idiots that can’t be bothered to keep up and wnt everbody else to be dumb with them
96. censorship 97. poverty 98. suffering 99. murder: One sentient being kills another
100. torture
101. rape: Non-consensual sex.
102. rape culture: The environment around which rape can be allowed or be seen as “OK” or be without consequence. Remember that court case where the judge or jury or acused, I forget, said that the woman couldn’t have been raped because she was wearing skinny jeans and therefore couldn’t have been raped because tight jeans require the wearer to remove themselves? Yeah, the environment that allows ‘’that’’ to be alegitamate response is all part of rape culture.
103. oppression: Forcing people to do something against
104. nation: Anther word for country
105. country: An established landmass with certain borders and it’s own government
106. ethnicity:
107. xenophobia
108. racism: “You’re inferior because your skin is different”
109. race: A social contruct that decides your worth based n skin color and sometimes country of origin.
110. sexism: The belief thatyou are superior or inferior based on the genetalia you’re born with
111. sex : What genetalia you’re born with
112. gender
113. homophobia
114. homosexual: You are sexually attracted to soemone of the same sex.
115. transphobia
116. transexual: You are going through the process of having your physical sex changed because of the below issue.
117. transgender: In your head, you’re the wrong gender than what you were born in
118. political correctness: Some buzzword used by rude people as an excuse to treat people like dirt.
119. bigot
120. equality: Nobody is considered superior or inferior based on race, class, ethnicity, ses, or sexual orientation. Everyone gets the same rights and opportunities regardless of these things.
121. justice
122. love 123. progress 124. tradition 125. freedom 126. harmony 127. family values 128. purpose 129. order 130. chaos 131. physics 132. metaphysics
133. idealism: The harmful version of below. Instead of seeing flaws that should be fixed, you see everything as "It's okay" regardless of flaws.
134. cynicism: Optimistic through critics. You know the world can be better but you're so jaded that you're reduced to pointing out all the wrong things and how everything can and should be better.
135. realism: Cynicism without the optimism and instead just seeing everything for how they are and knowing how it's stagnant.
136. nihilism: Belief that everything is worthless, nothing leads to anything, and everything is worthless and should be destroyed.
137. absurdism: Similar as above only without the destruction, basically the introduction of something strange or new or different that renders the normal routine or everyday aspects meaningless.
138. existentialism
139. deconstruction:
140. anime: A term used to mean a specific aesthetic of animated features made in Nihon. All It really just means a cartoon produced in and made for Nihon.
141. manga: A term used to mean specific graphic novel aesthetics and stylings specific to Nihon. All it really means isa comic published in and made for nihon.
142. cartoon: Animated pictures, usually made from stylized figures, and usually meant to be a comedy.
143. pornography: Sex on film.
144. troll: Someone who decides to go into a forum to say inflammatory things or something in an inflamamtory manner. Or they wonderpost/crappost. A.k.a. someone who makes a nonlegitamite post/response.
145. strawman: Basically breaking down a position down to components so vague that it takes away all the nuances and context so it can be easy to be taken down in an arguement.
146. ad hominem: Well as a bad former Latin student it means something along the lines of "towards a person." In the vernacular it means a "personal attack".
147. personal attack: Insulting or demonizing someone not based on their topic but based on them. Like saying “You suck” instead of saying “Your view sucks”
148. implying: Not saying something obviously because it’s in the subtext. Teling something to someone without syaing it directly.
149. bullshit: Basically lying your way through something. That or something that's just not true.
150. truthiness: really? This is a word? Wow, we'll come up with anything won't we? Okay, this means uh.... I don't know, I guess it's someone trying to put a value on facts by saying how much fact is fact and not fact. God this is weird.
151. meme: A popular concept phrase or idea that goes viral to the point that it almost becomes a cultural term. It's usually instantly recognizable and funny to those who know about it and just odd to those who don't.
152. troper: Someone on Tvtropes who edits and is part of the general community, regularly edits tropes, makes the occasional YKTTW, you know, just around, not as lurker or drive by editor.
153. inconceivable: Someone's bee watching The Princess Bride I see. It basically means that it's impossible to imagine or impossible for it to be true or capable of happening.
edited 2nd May '11 10:02:31 AM by MousaThe14
The Blog The Art
adopting kitteh
Hmmm... Let's try a hand at this:
12. Natural. That which happens expectably and predictably according to the known rules of the Universe. See Universe.
13. Supernatural. That which happens in a partially predictable manner and suggests that there are unknown rules of the Universe. See Natural.
20. Afterlife. Common term for any life posterior to the speaker's current one, if any.
31. Religion. A set of beliefs based on forcing predictable behaviours according to unprovable or unknown behaviour suggested as being rules of the Universe. Contrast Supernatural.
46. Alternative. Descriptive, and only descriptive term, that indicates that something follows a different trend than the norm.
87. Climate change. Umbrella term to categorize and bundle together both natural (see Natural) progressions of events in the world, at a certain natural rate, and unnatural, humanly-enforced progressions of events that damage the world, with regards to the known rules of meteorology.
88. Climate change denial. Umbrella term to categorize the denial of, specifically, the second subcategory of #87.
93. Elitism. The belief, not necessarily unfounded or false, that those who belong to a certain group are better than ones who don't.
151. Meme (misread Mew). An idea which, from a social experimentation perspective, seems to transmit itself from one person to the other creating a heritage of similar ideas.
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?
Clearly I have been a business student for too long because the definition that pops to mind first for "good" is "a commodity or service".
i. hear. a. sound.
I figured this might save us a few pointless semantic arguments.
Basically: words may have multiple meanings, and words may be misunderstood. My thinking is that a lot of arguments happen because different tropers have differing definitions of words, and that we might be able to avoid some of these by defining what we each mean by those words. To this end, I've drawn up a list of controversial or potentially ambiguous words that may cause disagreements here, and I invite you to supply your definitions of the following.
Because some of these words are controversial, I've come up with a few rules for this thread. Breaking them will be regarded as off-topic, and result in a thump.
Please do:
Please don't:
Now, my suggested list:
- good
- bad
- evil
- person
- identity
- sapient
- thought
- universe
- exist
- reality
- surreal
- natural
- supernatural
- life
- death
- soul
- free will
- god
- God
- afterlife
- Heaven
- Hell
- Nirvana (Nibbāna)
- holy
- faith
- belief
- myth
- knowledge
- lie
- truth
- religion
- atheism
- agnosticism
- antitheism
- Christianity
- paganism
- philosophy
- science
- scientism
- culture (with reference to human beings)
- society
- art
- literature
- metal (music genre)
- folk (music genre)
- alternative
- hipster
- emo
- goth
- hippy
- environmentalist
- deep ecologist
- communist
- socialist
- fascist
- Nazi
- Islamofascist
- theocratic
- nationalist
- monarchist
- patriotic
- republican
- liberal
- libertarian
- progressive
- conservative
- neoconservative
- reactionary
- anarchist
- anarcho-capitalist
- anarcho-primitivist
- statist
- capitalist
- radical
- extremist
- militant
- feminist
- bourgeoisie
- Marxist
- Stalinist
- Modernism
- Postmodernism
- rationalism
- empiricism
- structuralism
- post-structuralism
- climate change
- climate change denial
- Tea Party movement
- birther
- truther
- New World Order
- elitism
- intellectual
- anti-intellectual
- censorship
- poverty
- suffering
- murder
- torture
- rape
- rape culture
- oppression
- nation
- country
- ethnicity
- xenophobia
- racism
- race
- sexism
- sex (condition, not act)
- gender
- homophobia
- homosexual
- transphobia
- transexual
- transgender
- political correctness
- bigot
- equality
- justice
- love
- progress
- tradition
- freedom
- harmony
- family values
- purpose
- order
- chaos
- physics
- metaphysics
- idealism
- cynicism
- realism
- nihilism
- absurdism
- existentialism
- deconstruction
- anime
- manga
- cartoon
- pornography
- troll
- strawman
- ad hominem
- personal attack
- implying
- bullshit
- truthiness
- meme
- troper
- inconceivable
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