Street Writing Man
Can it be funny? Yes. Should it be funny? Yes, as long as everyone is made fun of equally. We all need to remember to laugh at ourselves, and sometimes it takes an outside source to remind us of this.
And such jokes wouldn't be funny if they weren't at least a little bit true.
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
Oh My
Nothing is so sacred that it shouldn't be joked about. You must know how to word your joke though. You must also know your audience. CONTEXT AND EXECUTION PEOPLE. LEARN IT.
edited 28th Apr '11 10:18:23 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
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This.
Also we ARE different and we should embrace it and laugh at it. Thats what I loved about Dave Chappele.
I also respect anyone who can laugh at themselves and do some fun Self-Deprecation
Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard
Jokes are okay so long as they aren't phrased as insults because a joke, by nature, tends to be lighthearted or at least pointing out a truth.
The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.
Nihilist Hippie
Talking about self-deprecation in the context of racism/sexism is wrong.
You shouldn't make these sorts of jokes with people you don't know well either.
edited 28th Apr '11 10:35:03 PM by LoveHappiness
"Had Mother Nature been a real parent, she would have been in jail for child abuse and murder." -Nick Bostrom
Cissexism, huh. These faggots are begging to be trolled.
And better than thy stroke; why swellest thou then?
In Riastrad
Nothing Is Sacred.
In comedy, you can attack goddamn St George (the pretentious fucker) and get away with it. Half of comedy is insults, and that is okay.
My name is Cu Chulainn. Beside the raging sea I am left to moan. Sorrow I am, for I brought down my only son.
Street Writing Man
I say, make whatever jokes you want. Just be willing to own up to what comes out of your mouth, and the consequences that may result.
Example; Sure, make nigger jokes in Harlem. Just don't whine when your face gets re-arranged into a configuration your mother didn't produce.
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
Can I KCK it?
@Drunk AMEN! If a person isn't willing to deal with the consequences of saying possibly or blatantly offensive jokes, they don't deserve to say them at all.
There's no justice in the world and there never was~
Street Writing Man
@KCK: exactly. As an example, I used to have a friend who was fond of offensive jokes...I told him straight out that I thought he was funny, but if someone tried to kick the crap out of him for his sense of humor, I wasn't backing him. Hell, I think my exact phraseology was "I'm going to pretend I don't know your ass".
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard
Hmm, I guess I could agree with that view point too, I just end up at the solution of "don't be a dick if the only reason for doing so is to be a dick".
The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.
Well it's more of a matter of how you are going about it. Laughing when some bullies go up to some kid and call him fat? That's not funny and it shouldn't be regarded as such. Laughing at the concept of bullies going up to some kid and calling him fat, because it's so immature? That can be funny.
"Laughing when some bullies go up to some kid and call him fat? That's not funny and it shouldn't be regarded as such."
I don't know, if they're witty enough about it, I'm sure it could be funny.
And better than thy stroke; why swellest thou then?
I suppose it depends who you're laughing at, in that case. Are you laughing at the bullies for being insensitive dicks, or are you laughing at the victim because his humiliation is amusing to you?
Be not afraid...
^ That's more my point. Laughing at misfortune is screwed up.
Okay, but laughing at a racist joke because it's bold or clever does not mean you're actually advocating or enjoying the misfortune of others. Neither does it mean that you're necessarily undergoing some complex politically-correct process of laughing at the ridiculousness of the situation and those who impose injustice. It's just a joke. Breathe.
edited 28th Apr '11 11:34:36 PM by kashchei
And better than thy stroke; why swellest thou then?
Street Writing Man
truth is spoken here.
Can I KCK it?
But people laugh at misfortune all the time! Otherwise dark humor would be nonexistent.
@kaschei Depends on who's telling it.
edited 28th Apr '11 11:36:38 PM by KCK
There's no justice in the world and there never was~
Every time you have this debilitating instinct to take a blatant joke seriously, think of yo mama jokes: it's about the delivery, not about your actual mother being overweight or black or what-have-you.
"Depends on who's telling it."
Yes, context matters. But if who's telling it happens to be some skinny white guy with blood-shot eyes and meth sores and beer stains on his wife-beater and a Confederate Flag on his trailer's dirty window, who truly believes that niggers should be out picking cotton in the field, then it ceases to be a joke, doesn't it?
edited 28th Apr '11 11:42:13 PM by kashchei
And better than thy stroke; why swellest thou then?
Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard
Yo mama's so fat she surpassed black hole status, wrapped back around, and started repelling everything around her.
The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.
Considering that every day I tell and get told a zillion sexist and racist jokes, I'm not saying they can't be funny but it's a matter of why you are laughing and what is funny about it.
Two wife beaters laughing about punching their wives in the face because they didn't make their dinner fast enough. That's not what I call good humour.
Two non-sexist people cracking jokes about wives making them dinner and punching them if they don't make it fast enough, but it is a clearly fictitious event and they are in no way sexist, then you would might laugh depending on delivery. A guy cracking jokes about asians and doing well in school, but isn't racist, you would probably laugh.
edited 28th Apr '11 11:58:04 PM by breadloaf
If there's an actual joke in there, yes.
Considering that every day I tell and get told a zillion sexist and racist jokes
Oh, excellent, mind sharing some?
And better than thy stroke; why swellest thou then?
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I have laughed at, and occasionally made jokes about many of these things. I don't really see why serious issues shouldn't be made fun of. Is this totally inappropriate of me? Are there things which should never be joked about?
edited 29th Apr '11 11:49:25 AM by Pingu