General Star Wars Animated Series

Yep, there were a few moments when I think Dooku was mistaken for a vampire That makes a bit more sense, then... thanks

edited 13th Mar '15 9:16:26 AM by yellowturtle

That was the system before the Disney buy-out. Since the Continuity Reboot in April last year, only Episodes 1-6 and The Clone Wars remain canon from the old continuity. So the 2003 microseries is a 100% non-canon.

edited 13th Mar '15 7:34:33 AM by Werebazs

The 2003 Clone Wars is Legends continuity.

EDIT: Han Solo'd

edited 13th Mar '15 7:34:37 AM by TheAirman

Which is a shame, cause that was the Clone Wars cartoon I grew up with. Part of me still wishes that The Clone Wars was at least done in the same style.

Anakin's knighting scene will always be canon to me. And the Anakin vs Asajj fight. And Mace Windu punching an army to death.

Alright, maybe not that last one, but its still flippin' awesome.

Agreed. especially since they take place before The Clone Wars series began. Though my theory is that the Windu killing droids things is in universe propaganda, or rather the way he does it is, e.g their was a battle on Dantoie, and Windu did kick a lot of ass, but not that much ass, also wasn't the reason that Asoka and Baris had to escort that medical frigate during the Genenosis arc because Dantoie had been attacked?

I always wanted that knighting scene, since I watched Clone Wars round 2 before take 1, so I always wanted that before I watched it.

1. So, from what i gathered from that last part of the interview, Darth Vader's basically just the head Inquisitor and a lesser known one?

2. I have to ask, did Tarkin already know what Palpatine was and what he was after before he took over or did he just (for lack of a better phrase) go with the flow when the Empire rose to power, so as not to lose the military status he had at the time?

3. Isn't Vader not having Vader be high in the military kind of step backwards, compared to what Palpatine promised him. Palpatine promised Anakin that if he joined up with him, he would have limitless power (or something like that). But while he was a general in the Grand Republic's Army during the Clone Wars, with only the Jedi Masters outranking him, he now has (inferior) non-force sensitives outranking him, when Palpatine's last two apprentices both answered to no one but him. This seems like a bit of a demotion for Vader, don't you think?

Vader is more like Palpatine's rabid lapdog than simply the secretive head Inquisitor. Recall that Vader is subservient to Tarkin during A New Hope, but has much greater military command during Empire, despite his failure that is the Death Star getting blown up. If I'm not mistaken, the Vader comic is meant to show this transition.

Tarkin was always bugfuck evil, he and Mas Amedda are probably drinking buddies.

As for Palpatine's promise to Anakin that he would have limitless power: 1) he was talking to pre-Mustafar Anakin, when he wasn't horribly crippled, disfigured, and still had potential to become much greater; and 2) anyone who buys into anything Palpatine promises while knowing he is Darth Sidious is a damned fool, and they deserve whatever the hell he does when they fail/outlive their usefullness. Clones, Moffs, Apprentices, they exist only as tools to be used in Palpatine's eyes, and Anakin/Vader is no different.

Let me put it this way: The Son, anthropomorphic personification of the Dark Side itself, has more redeeming qualities than Sheev (which is to say, any).

edited 14th Mar '15 9:13:39 AM by TheAirman

I actually saw an excellent piece of meta on how, as Vader, Anakin falls back on his behavior as a slave by deference to his Master and master's orders, and making himself a valuable commodity in order to survive.

But remember- after destroying everything he once loved, getting mutilated, and convinced that everyone but Palpatine betrayed him, Vader really doesn't have any motive to gain power for himself. Everything before came back to loved ones; free his mother, save his mother, save Padme and his future child, ect. Anakin never really did anything for himself, beyond the idea of keeping someone with him. Without loved ones, all he has is Palpatine and the dark side, so grabbing power from Palpatine is unthinkable until Luke comes into the picture. Before then, he'll obey anyone Palpatine tells him to obey, and do what Palps tells him to do.

According to an interview with Filoni on Rebel Force Radio, some of the Ahsoka content was done in story reel form. He also said to expect some surprises at Celebration this year, though I doubt they're new episodes since he said he'd have to do it in story reels like Utapau and get the voice actors to record it.

Also I keep hearing talk about how there was going to be an arc about the Pykes (that isn't Son of Dathomir) which would have Stephen Stanton voicing their new leader (it might be Fife from SOD), though I can't seem to find any information on it.

Alright, question for you folks-

Is the rest of the EU and Legends worth reading? I've just finished reading the books not doomed to being 'not canonically important' (A New Dawn, Tarkin, and Kenobi) so now I'm wondering if everything else is worth spending the hours reading if they are no longer cannon.

EDIT- Anyone know if Owen is actually on record as Obi-Wan's brother? I know about how it was cut from (what movie was it, somewhere down the line) but I'm just curious if that's still a thing.

edited 16th Mar '15 12:27:48 PM by yellowturtle

Owen is Anakin's stepbrother

As for the old EU, I would recommend the first Kotor,if your into old games, I bought the iPhone version so that explains why I was less concerned with the low quality graphics.

Oh, I completely forgot about games! Thanks.

[1] ? I don't know, maybe it was mentioned in Legends books, but then it's not cannon now.

edited 16th Mar '15 2:08:27 PM by yellowturtle

Yeah, the Owen thing is probably a relic of the early EU, before the prequels really fleshed out those relationships.

On the EU in general, canonicity isn't the only way to judge a work's value. Most of the more famous bits are enjoyable in and of themselves—e.g., KOTOR, The Thrawn Trilogy, X Wing Series—and even if they're not canon, they're still a decently-fleshed out take on the Star Wars universe.

Alright. I didn't know if that was ever official.

I need to check those out, then I'm suffering from a lack of 'new' Star Wars material...

Thanks guys!

edited 16th Mar '15 2:52:55 PM by yellowturtle

The Thrawn books are awesome. They've got a good bit of shilling but Zahn seems to know how to do it well. As opposed to Karen Traviss who thinks that a good shill means degrading the canon elements of the characters yours are opposed to, rather than just making an effective character to start with.

Question: Are any of the TCW tie ins worth reading at all? They're non-canon, and I am a bit leery of at least one because apparently Traviss wrote lots of slut shaming of Ahsoka, and that seems kind of sketchy. (Because I really don't want to read a book if it has Anakin thinking of a 14 year old girl in slaver terms), but I don't know if that's in all of them or actually a thing.

Really?

I'll be honest, I really haven't done much stalking about books older than the last few years. I didn't know TCW got some of it's own.

From what I've heard, the only real reason that novel would be worth reading is for the academic interest of seeing the show get filtered through Traviss's peculiarities.

In general I have not heard good things about any of the TCW tie-ins. On the other hand, the Rebels YA novels about Zare Leonis are supposed to be pretty enjoyable.

I believe the incident your referring too happens in Take No Prisoners. Captain Pellion, the eventually Watson to Thawn's Sherlock, tells her to put on more cloth's on his ship. Asoka claims she can wear what she wants, and the captain informs her it's not about her style of dress, rather it has something do with hazards of being on a warship. He then mudders something about kids these days. The incident is later brought up in Captain Rex's POV, when he reflects on how the Jedi can go from normal people, to wise warrior monks getting visions from the force in the blink of an eye.

edited 16th Mar '15 7:57:22 PM by JackOLantern1337

Oh yeah, I've got to get those on my list.

So no to the TCW tie-ins, yes to the Rebels tie-ins

I liked the clone wars tie ins. Though that's probably because I always took Travis's rants as the views of characters on the side who don't have the full picture,like how people in the real world view those they don't know.

So Kanan #1 has sold over 100,000. Hot damn Star Wars comics are on a roll.

Wow, Star Wars#1 was really racking up the numbers. I'm getting a bit excited for this.

edited 18th Mar '15 6:09:27 AM by yellowturtle