Red Vs Blue General Discussion

I hope she was with the Committee. It seems more like the organization she would join.

So guys if you could put Red vs Blue in the Halo timeline where would you put it? I would place the series in between the time of Halo 3 and Halo 4...it fits the best there for me.

Well according to this shirt they were founded in 2552.

...It's close enough...yes.

Super involved timeline post here, makes as much sense as anything else

for the tl;dr

Only solid dates in the series are Church's 14 months and that season 6 is Post War Year 1. Working off of those facts it makes the most sense for Season 6 to be during December 2553, putting the end of the BGC in October 2552. Length of time for BGC is questionable, but at least 2 months passed between seasons 1 and 2. Meaning that Grif's line in episodes 1 about MC blowing up the Covenant is completely non-canon (which Word of God already said but the proof is nice).

For bonus points, putting seasons 4/5 in October 2552 lands those events at the same time as the Covenant Schism, putting the Junior plot in a whole new light. As the post says,

edited 1st Oct '14 4:49:40 PM by odafangirl

Sadly it doesn't answer when Project Freelancer started or why they were mostly fighting humans. Also was that post war date for the U.N.S.C?

Freelancer is a mess continuity wise. Basically the only thing that post confirms is that Freelancer had to be operating before the Fall of Reach. Years, more likely than not. Wouldn't say more than 5 personally but that's just it, personally.

The Post War Year 1 came from this trailer right here, referring to humanity's victory over the Covenant in 2552 in Halo proper.

edited 1st Oct '14 5:22:08 PM by odafangirl

Alright. I'll trust the trailer at least for now.

edited 1st Oct '14 5:29:52 PM by theweirdKiddokun

With the Chairman having Maine's helmet, could it be for him to personally use so they can machinimate him next season?

That's a thought I had, as well - the Chairman beefing himself up for a confrontation with Meta-derived technology.

I am myself hoping that the AI are all kept to rest, instead of being revived via Maine's helmet. Since Charon has developed AI-free Freelancer equipment, it seems to me they'd be more interested in the equipment Maine had accumulated (such as the time distortion powers).

I'd like to see Alpha Church again.

I don't know, having him and Epsilon Church meet/bitch at each other sounds funny, and I hate how he was just "gone" after Season 6. Yeah, Epsilon is supposed to be him, but it doesn't feel the same. It's like what would happen if Homer Simpson was killed and we found out he actually had himself legally cloned at age 40, and the show continued with Homer's clone more-or-less filling in.

Not a fan of that honestly. Bringing back Alpha would be insanely cheap, especially after all that went into setting off that damn EMP. Yes, Epsilon is different from Alpha, but Alpha being willing to sacrifice himself to stop the Meta was a HUGE character moment. If they backtracked on that I'd lose a lot of respect for the show.

There only chance to revive any of the A.I.s is through Epsilon. Maine's helmet was at ground zero of the EMP, mere feet away from Wash and Church. Epsilon and Tex were the only Freelancer A.I.s that didn't get fried there.

No, Beta/Tex was also caught in the blast (if you look closely, you can see that she is among one of the A.I.s captured by the Meta). The one we see later is a clone made by Epsilon using his memory. Epsilon is the only AI who made it.

Though I agree that the Alpha shouldn't come back. His whole arc is over, and Epsilon is a memory of the Alpha (as Church at least), so bringing him back would be redundant.

By the way guys, don't you think we need more pictures on the character pages? I just added a ton of them, but I only did three pages (and I only completed one).

edited 4th Oct '14 7:54:04 AM by SatoshiBakura

Redundant?

Lopez and Lopez 2.0.

Yes but that's Lopez, and Lopez 2.0 didn't even make it through an entire season.

Y'know, I've come to like Epsilon more than Alpha, but I can't put my finger on what the difference is. Maybe it's that Epsilon actually has skills and goals that give him more material for interesting conversations and gags.

I mostly just miss O'Malley, personally.

But then, I didn't bother with 90-95% of the main freelancer stuff, so I never got a chance to get attached to any of the other AI's anyway.

edited 4th Oct '14 9:48:43 PM by TheSpaceJawa

I still don't understand that even a little bit. You skipped half the story. 0_o

edited 4th Oct '14 10:10:48 PM by odafangirl

A story I didn't care about that I never thought belonged in the "Red vs Blue" universe to the begin with.

Me, I care about the Reds and Blues. They're the reason I watch the show. I don't think the Freelancers on their own match the tone of the series that I had come to enjoy, especially not when I'd already been turned off to the action-related stuff that helped facilitate the Freelancer stuff thanks to the "Let's make Tex look awesome - hey, did you know Tex is awesome? Because Tex is totally awesome" beatdown. Once they made it a major part of the show, I felt like there were bad vibes of "Hey, look at this COOL STUFF THAT OUR ANIMATOR CAN DO!" coming off of it. And I don't think it was to the series benefit.

That and I got this feeling of "Hey look! We're not just a comedy team! We can be important and dramatic too!" that didn't sit well with me.

TLDR: I think the Freelancers - as "Project Freelancer" and not just actual freelancers - should have been their own series apart from Red vs. Blue.

I'll admit, I think they've a good job bringing them together since then, but I still have no interest in catching up on what happened to them because I don't care about them.

edited 4th Oct '14 10:52:10 PM by TheSpaceJawa

... well alright then.

Alright, well now for the fun part: predictions for next season.

The Chairman declares war on Chorus. That might seem like a bad move, but he has the Meta's helmet. How do you think it will all add up?

@Space Jawa - while I watched and enjoyed seasons 6-10...I pretty much agree. Besides just catching up on "Carolina has replaced Tex and Church is now an awesome AI," there's not too much there that I actually recommend watching for fans wanting to get to the good stuff. Besides those changes and the intro of Wash (and season 6, IMO, is worth watching), season 11 is when the show really got back on track. The show is better for having its worldbuilding straightened out - stuff like the Chorus War gets more weight as a result, and there are interesting logical implications of the changes, and the characters getting to do cool and important things as well as silly and useless things gives them more range - but that worldbuilding was not really necessary to enjoying the show, and I actually do recommend that people skip seasons 7-10 unless they just really want to fill time.

I disagree about the Tex beatdown, though. That was completely glorious, the best thing RVB has ever had, and a beautiful breath of fresh air that seemed to incorporate ideas the writers had been unable to do for years. It was also Tex's last hurrah before being killed off, so throwing everyone else's non-existent dignity to the wind was appropriate.

I did still watch the stuff from those seasons that involved the Reds and Blues (even when they weren't the real Reds and Blues), I just skipped past the segments where they weren't involved at all.

I defend Reconstruction, personally. It had one of the more coherent narratives of the seasons and still felt like the Reds and Blues were relevant even while taking the series in a new direction. In some ways the cleverness of having to do all-machinima action sequences also impressed me to the point that I sort of missed it after season 8.

I always thought the all machinima action sequences were awkward and not suited for anything other than comedy.

And this was before I knew there was any animation in Red vs Blue at all, for the record.