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deathjavu This foreboding is fa... from The internet, obviously Since: Feb, 2010
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#1: Feb 3rd 2011 at 6:47:38 PM

Don't know if this was ever a thread before, but apparently Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki has been caught running a secret prison...again, after promising to stop last year.

The story.

Discuss.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#2: Feb 3rd 2011 at 7:23:39 PM

I had hoped that the one bright side of this war was that we could at least install a better government. I was wrong.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#3: Feb 3rd 2011 at 7:43:00 PM

Iraq is too unstable and artificial to be run normally. It was inevitable that the government would become authoritarian. We just switched it from a minority oppressing a majority to the majority oppressing a minority.

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Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#4: Feb 3rd 2011 at 8:31:40 PM

I don't know if I even care anymore..

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#5: Feb 3rd 2011 at 9:24:52 PM

If not for Baghdad and the immediate surrounding area (and the history behind the area with Babylon and Mesopotamia), partition would have happened back in '05, I'd wager. Give the Sunni areas over to Jordan, make Kurdistan independent contingent on moving ALL Kurds to the new state so that claims to Turkish soil end, and give Basra and the surrounding environs to Kuwait.

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Omnis Since: Dec, 2010
#6: Feb 3rd 2011 at 11:34:34 PM

Agreed. We lost the battle to mold Iraq into (a) competent nation(s) the moment we took the three-way partition solution off the table.

Iraqi Kurdistan essentially went ahead and did it anyway from the beginning; they are now a fully functioning mini-country that views the rest of Iraq as a hopeless wasteland that they unfortunately share a border with.

Meanwhile, the central and southern portions of the country have been engaged in a sort of insurgent cold war between new government loyalists, Sunni insurgents backed primarily by Syria, and Shia insurgents backed by Iran and the Sadrist movement. The latter made huge gains in the recent elections and has usurped a large number of military and government posts.

Fun times.

Talby Since: Jun, 2009
#7: Feb 4th 2011 at 9:28:22 AM

So the Kurds are doing alright? Good on 'em, I always liked those guys.

Omnis Since: Dec, 2010
#8: Feb 5th 2011 at 8:35:28 AM

Kurdistan was so successful in going into quarantine mode from the rest of the country that their territory is safe enough to vacation in.

inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#9: Feb 7th 2011 at 5:48:25 AM

...Well this isn't what I'd call a suprising development. :P

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Filby Some Guy from Western Massachusetts Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Feb 7th 2011 at 6:05:22 AM

A government installed by the U.S. turns out to be as bad as the one that came before? Gee, that's never happened before.

Groovy.
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#11: Feb 7th 2011 at 7:13:05 AM

I wonder if the rumors of the Mid east protests spreading to Iraq would be because of this. Hmm....

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