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Frank75 Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:28:08 AM

As the description says, the Jackass Genie is the malicious version of the Literal Genie. But if you check the examples, a lot of them are duplicated. This should be cleaned up.

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Wulf Gotta trope, dood! from Louisiana Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:51:34 AM

Well, a lot of Jackass Genies will have Literal Genie moments and vice-versa, so it stands to reason that there'll be some duplication. The same genie, who if you wish for immortality will give you Immortality Without Agelessness is just as likely to turn you into a statue or something.

Also, a lot of needlessly malicious wishes still have valid literal interpretations. Wishing for an attractive girlfriend and getting one who attracts tigers is still technically a literal interpretation of the wish.

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#3: Jan 18th 2011 at 2:04:32 PM

Hm, an interesting subtrope distinction.

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TonyMuhplaah Brother of Favio from Tony, Wisconsin Since: Oct, 2010
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#4: Jan 18th 2011 at 3:06:22 PM

If they're literal duplicates of examples, I'd say have someone go through and spice them up a bit, presumably one who knows the works in question.

Keep them as separate tropes, though. A Literal Genie is not necessarily a Jerkass Genie, and vice versa

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Apr 20th 2011 at 9:03:00 AM

Well, most Jackass Genie characters use Literal Genie to do it. Example: Timmy Turner wishes for an omelet. Norm poofs a steaming hot omelet into Timmy's bare palms and he drops it onto the grass. Norm says Timmy should have wished for an omelet on a plate.

edited 20th Apr '11 9:03:33 AM by SalFishFin

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#6: Apr 20th 2011 at 5:03:16 PM

Hmm, makes me wonder if perhaps the distinction isn't quite in how, but why. Though this may lead to problems still, admittedly.

As written, the definitions are clear, but as mentioned above, there's a lot of overlap. Tossing out ideas here, what if it's changed? One is for when they take the wish literally because they're sticklers for rules, or perhaps bound in someway. The other when they're just trying to screw you over.

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#7: Apr 20th 2011 at 5:42:18 PM

A Literal Genie doesn't always have to hurt you. Sometimes it's just funny or embarrassing.

A Jackass Genie is malicious and will twist all your wishes against you, though not always by going by the letter of the ruling. A lot of them work on the idea of unforseen consequences.

edited 20th Apr '11 5:43:29 PM by shimaspawn

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arromdee Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Apr 21st 2011 at 2:28:44 PM

It seems like a Jackass Genie hurts you either by being a Literal Genie, or by pretending to be one where the result is literal From a Certain Point of View. There aren't really all that many other ways for a genie to be a jackass with his genieness.

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#9: Apr 21st 2011 at 2:34:31 PM

Hmm... I'm not sure of the difference, really. Usually, a Jackass Genie will stick to the letter of the wish, so it might be a subtrope, since a Literal Genie often isn't actively malicious.

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rjung Since: Jan, 2015
#10: May 16th 2011 at 12:39:16 PM

It is possible to be a Jerkass Genie without being a Literal Genie, and vice-versa.

You: "I wish I had a million dollars!"
Literal Genie: Makes a million dollars appear next to you.
Jerkass Genie: Makes you appear in a bank vault with a million dollars... and a dozen armed guards about to arrest you.

If anything, Literal Genie is somewhat misnamed, as it describes a ''process' rather than a character.

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#11: May 16th 2011 at 2:44:54 PM

Particularly in folklore, there are several Jackass Genies who don't care about being literal. For example, an unseelie faerie from Celtic mythology may offer you a wish, then if you wish for gold, he'll punch you in the face and cut your heart out. Because, you know, jackass.

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