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Anarchy just a medicine seller from Perak, Malaysia Since: Jun, 2010
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#10401: Apr 9th 2011 at 7:35:57 PM

^^ But that doesn't make sense since Homura's wish was to redo her meeting with Madoka.

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#10402: Apr 9th 2011 at 7:42:13 PM

(@ Anarchy) Where did it say that Homu jumps from one universe to the next (like Rika does in Higurashi)? Never mind, saw Sackett's post.

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edited 9th Apr '11 7:48:34 PM by ThatHuman

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Brickman Since: Jan, 2001
#10403: Apr 9th 2011 at 8:00:43 PM

"This means the special power of Homura is the ability to manipulate one month's time's worth of sand in the sand timer."

How bizarrely appropriate. Sayaka wished for healing so she got regeneration powers with her transformation. Homura wished to change the events of the past month... so she got the power to mess with that month's time. She won't "lose" her power when the month is over, because her power IS control over that month. And if you assume overwriting-timetravel, her control over that month is pretty damn strong—an absolute veto power PLUS personal superpowers surpassing the normal (so an absolute veto plus about three people's worth of votes). Once the month is over, if she doesn't reset it, her power will still be her power—it'll just stop being relevant to any situation she'll ever find herself in again.

She will still have the hyperspace shield full of weapons though, plus generalized superhuman powers like flight and strength. The golf club's pretty worthless though.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#10404: Apr 9th 2011 at 8:07:13 PM

The way I read it was this. Homura is allowed to spend up to one month max in her timestopped state - that is, she could stop time at 11:58PM on April 1, live for a month in the timestopped world, then start moving again at 11:58PM on April 1st - but after that, she couldn't use the timestop again. She would have to flip her hourglass over, at the same time triggering Reload State, to get more timestop sand.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10405: Apr 9th 2011 at 8:15:18 PM

[up]The other thing is she could wait until say, 5 days after April ends. She "flips the hourglass", and ends up on April 5, with full control over that month.

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the1ultimate Protector of the Realm from Plato's Cave Since: Jan, 2010
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#10406: Apr 9th 2011 at 8:17:18 PM

[up][up] But isn't that basically saying she can only stop time within the month she's timestoped in? If that was the case it would only be her magic capacity limiting the amount of time she could freeze time for.

Actually I don't think the way you're saying it is the way it works, because the time in her hourglass stops flowing when she stops time, making it more like her having the power to manipulate that paticular month.

edited 9th Apr '11 8:19:13 PM by the1ultimate

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#10407: Apr 9th 2011 at 8:19:15 PM

[up]Er… yes, so? We've never been given any indication that was limited by anything else…

edited 9th Apr '11 8:19:53 PM by Gilphon

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#10408: Apr 9th 2011 at 8:20:29 PM

^^Yeah, actually. I went back and reread the actual post; that is a lot closer to how it is.

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KousakaKirino Otaku Surrogate Since: Jan, 2011
#10409: Apr 9th 2011 at 8:33:10 PM

That pool... I didn't see the ending coming. ;___;

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#10410: Apr 9th 2011 at 9:18:03 PM

About Homura's powers: Urobuchi explicitly stated that the details of how they function aren't important. We can argue about how they work, but it being limited to a months isn't going to matter

Oh, and I have an idea of why MBS might be hesitant to broadcast episode 11: Just showing mass destruction isn't likely to be something they'd continue to have a problem with... but how the characters react could be. If Homura's reaction to this Walpurgisnacht was to, say, kidnap Madoka and run the hell away, I could see they're point, to some extent

SakurazakiSetsuna Together Forever... Since: Jun, 2010
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#10411: Apr 9th 2011 at 9:19:18 PM

Urobuchi Twittered that there will be a Madoka related announcement in 12 hours. That was 6 hours ago, so possible broadcast resumption news by morning.

So yay.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#10413: Apr 9th 2011 at 9:45:05 PM

@Sakurazaki: The complete translation of that Tweet:

Twelve hours left! Go to bed and wait for good fortune! Sleep well...

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Edmania o hai from under a pile of erasers Since: Apr, 2010
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#10415: Apr 9th 2011 at 10:42:39 PM

I wonder if becoming a witch would get rid of that "inescapable" immortality...

Wait actually I could just use my wish to end my immortality.

edited 9th Apr '11 10:45:09 PM by Edmania

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JakesBrain Since: Jul, 2010
#10416: Apr 9th 2011 at 11:04:02 PM

[up][up]The "Go to bed..." line means something like "All good things come to those who wait."

edited 9th Apr '11 11:04:11 PM by JakesBrain

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#10417: Apr 9th 2011 at 11:17:33 PM

I love learning new idioms. Thanks, Jake's.

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SakurazakiSetsuna Together Forever... Since: Jun, 2010
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#10420: Apr 9th 2011 at 11:57:07 PM

No.

No.

NO.

JUST NO.

OMFG WE'RE ALL FUCKED IT'S TROLLKASTEL AND TROLLWHATEVERTHEFUCKHOMERUNBECOMES.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#10421: Apr 9th 2011 at 11:59:55 PM

I think the artist just didn't think that all the way through

Yuunagi Since: Jan, 2011
#10422: Apr 10th 2011 at 12:02:22 AM

Death is the inevitable end of all things. Death is not evil, it is not cruel, and it is not a mistake.

But Homura wouldn't accept that. Now Madoka won't accept that. And really, all this misery is because the fucking Incubators wouldn't accept it.

Re: earlier comparisons with Higurashi

According to Rika, there are occasional variations introduced from the very beginning of the reset. Sometimes, K1 or Satoko's uncle never comes to Hinamizawa, and these affect the possibilities of reaching a happy ending.

I was wondering what would happen if something similar occurred to Homura's situation. What if it wasn't Homura's actions but the new realities themselves making the situation worse and denying Madoka that happy ending, all because Homura could not accept death as a conclusion?

Kyubey: Aren't you going to fight?

Homura: No, my battlefield is not here.

edited 10th Apr '11 12:03:20 AM by Yuunagi

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#10423: Apr 10th 2011 at 12:04:36 AM

...!

Homerun needs a K1.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#10424: Apr 10th 2011 at 12:12:28 AM

The difference is that here, we haven't seen any differences between timelines that can't be explained as being a result of Homura's actions.

SakurazakiSetsuna Together Forever... Since: Jun, 2010
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