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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4401: Apr 19th 2014 at 5:29:31 PM

If that happens, I also demand a fight against a Ki Hunter or renegade GF Trooper that fires War Wasps at you.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4402: Apr 19th 2014 at 5:32:15 PM

I don't think we actually know the time gap between Metroid 2 and Super, do we?

For all we know, Samus had the thing with her in her ship for a month or so, feeding it space-hamsters or something.

And, I mean, I'm not saying that the Federation wouldn't be able to make a case for destroying all the Metroids. Or that Samus would do it just because they're paying her to. But that, overall, with all the facts in mind, it's actually the wrong call to make.

EDIT:

After serious consideration of how terrible and destructive the Metroid life form was, the Galactic Federation sent another research ship to SR 388. This trip was to make sure there were no more Metroids left on the planet.

After a short time the Federation received an emergency notice from the research base. They had lost contact, and the research base was missing. The base had already sent a search and rescue party, but after their initial contact, the rescue ship was not heard from again.

A special combat group was assembled consisting of armed soldiers from the Federation Police and was immediately dispatched to SR 388. After transmitting their primary landing data, they also were never heard from!

Rumors spread fast, and again, the whole galaxy was seized with the fear of Metroids.

With this limited information, the Federation was positive that a Metroid must still be surviving, hiding deep in the planet underground. Even one living Metroid could easily wipe out an entire planetary civilization. So, the Galactic Federation called its members to an urgent conference to find a way to overcome this menace. They quickly came to one conclusion, which was unanimous and simple... Give Samus Aran the order to exterminate the Metroids!

...Okay, that "research base" thing can't help but make me think they were also trying to weaponize the things already at that point.

edited 19th Apr '14 5:36:56 PM by unnoun

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#4403: Apr 19th 2014 at 5:37:12 PM

Where did the Federation get the idea that a single Metroid could bring down a planetary civilization? Even a Queen Metroid isn't that strong from what we've seen.

Seems kind of hyperbolic, yeah. I almost get the thinking because one metroid can multiply into a lot if you have the right radiation and they need a specific combination of weapons to stop that probably most security forces and military guys aren't equipped with.

Even if they are, the Metroids move fast enough that even the right weapons in insufficiently skilled hands aren't going to do much good.

[up] Pretty sure there are non-weapon reasons to research a crazy new lifeform. I don't feel comfortable tarring the entire Federation with the dick brush when Fusion and Other M made it seem that the dicks were a small group within the Federation.

edited 19th Apr '14 5:38:35 PM by Bocaj

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#4404: Apr 19th 2014 at 5:41:45 PM

Remember, the Metroids don't seem like a threat because we're playing as Samus Aran. It's not fair to judge the threat level of anything when you only see it fighting someone with ungodly levels of badass.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4405: Apr 19th 2014 at 5:43:35 PM

Other M was the one that had the idea of a small conspiracy. Fusion's thing was "one of them will understand, one of them must" which rather flips the scales.

I'm not saying that the Federation is entirely dicks. I mean, there's probably perfectly justifiable reasons to research the Metroids, like you said. But at the end of the day, the Federation does care about the military applications. They are not perfect. It's not a small conspiracy, it's a basic fact of the structures and influences involved.

...I remember an idea of the Federation getting Ridley somehow to track down Samus post-Fusion. I really like the idea of that.

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#4406: Apr 19th 2014 at 5:49:33 PM

I'm still confused about who the Federation possibly needs to declare war on. Bioweapons don't help fight pirates because you need to be able to pin them down.

Other M was the one that had the idea of a small conspiracy. Fusion's thing was "one of them will understand, one of them must" which rather flips the scales.

I think I interpreted that line differently. Even if there is just a small conspiracy, what the Federation as a whole saw is Samus blowing up not only a Federation-affiliated research baseteroid but also an entire planet, destroying an entire ecosystem full of species that may have been unique to the planet.

Samus has to convince the Federation via hearings and such that the X were too dangerous to be allowed to live and that it was totally Adam's idea to blow up the planet, that's on him, not on me you guys. You're the dicks that put his brain in a computer but kudos for that actually because he's a lot nicer now.

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#4407: Apr 19th 2014 at 5:53:16 PM

[up]The Kriken Empire?

[down]Trace. He was a scout for the Kriken.

edited 19th Apr '14 5:54:08 PM by Kostya

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#4408: Apr 19th 2014 at 5:53:36 PM

I think Prime Hunters has one of the bounty hunters being part of a hostile space empire, so there be hostile space empires for the Federation to fight.

Metroid needs more world building.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4409: Apr 19th 2014 at 6:22:14 PM

Metroid Rebirth. Looks kinda neat. Yay college students!

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#4410: Apr 19th 2014 at 6:24:16 PM

That's looks every kind of awesome but I'm just waiting for it to be C&D'ed.

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#4411: Apr 19th 2014 at 6:25:28 PM

Ooh, pretty. That's how I'd want a 3DS game to look.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#4413: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:05:12 PM

That does raise the question of why Samus went along with it.

We are talking about Samus "blew up four planets" Aran here.

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#4414: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:12:52 PM

It was only intentional twice. Zebes was Mother Brain's fault, and Dark Aether was a weird case.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4415: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:15:04 PM

She also crashed a Space Pirate Frigate and blew up a Space Station.

And an interdimensional prison.

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#4416: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:19:18 PM

Intentional twice seems like a sufficient trait pattern to me. How many times you do have to steal to be a thief, or how many cars do you have to crash to be a car crasher?

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#4417: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:20:06 PM

4 and 7, respectively.

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#4418: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:21:01 PM

Something felt wrong, leaving SR388 after her mission to wipe out the Metroids.

Something was out of place, something wasn't right.

Years later, after her mission to the BSL station a long pent up frustration was released and Samus smiled.

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#4419: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:32:51 PM

Does that mean Tallon IV, Bryyo, Elysia, and the Pirate Home World are also in danger (not that anyone would miss the Pirate Home World)?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4420: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:35:04 PM

Technically, her home planet still exists. It's just that everyone that lived there died.

Also, I think she's been to the Federation capitol a few times.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#4421: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:35:17 PM

Two Planets is the same number the Death Star blew up, so I think that's probably a good bar being a planet destroyer.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4422: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:36:07 PM

...I thought the Death Star only blew up Alderaan.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#4423: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:39:49 PM

Where did the Federation get the idea that a single Metroid could bring down a planetary civilization? Even a Queen Metroid isn't that strong from what we've seen.

Metroid Prime is pretty dangerous.

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#4424: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:40:12 PM

It also blew up the planet it was built next to as a test.

Its a semi-obscure EU thing.

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#4425: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:47:31 PM

Metroid Prime is so far mutated it might as well not be a Metroid anymore. And that's before it becomes Dark Samus.

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