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Uh...How? He's almost literally a palette swap of Fox appearance-wise, even though he may be distinct otherwise. Falco is, well, a bird person. He doesn't look similar to Fox at all.

Well that's your opinion, it's hardly fact. I think it means he's pretty safe. Of course it's not confirmed, but that's my expectations.

Because he never was a video game character in the first place?

edited 18th Dec '13 5:28:03 PM by CassidyTheDevil

Looking similar doesn't make a character a clone; fighting similarly does.

...Which I now realize is basically the opposite of what the word "clone" means in any other context. Hurray jargon.

"We're home, Chewie."

I didn't say that, I was just responding to their statement that Wolf is somehow more visually distinct from Fox than Falco. I didn't actually say they were a clone in the first place, either.

edited 18th Dec '13 5:30:03 PM by CassidyTheDevil

He kinda was and kinda wasn't. He was always referred to as being a character in the little story blurbs for Gyromite/Stack-Up, having been created by Professor Hector.

I sure said that!

Sheik'd.

edited 18th Dec '13 5:31:05 PM by NesClassic

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Oh, my mistake. I failed at reading comprehension. Sorry.

edited 18th Dec '13 5:31:30 PM by Zarek

"We're home, Chewie."

Hm... Okay, I concede that, being a different species, Falco has some more visual distinctiveness (though, Wolf's weird space-biker getup has some potential...)

In the original quote, though, you also said moveset-wise, which I continue to disagree most strongly with.

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Fox and Falco stand more upright and fight more cleanly. Wolf stands low to the ground and fights with more brutal tactics (like claw swipes instead of martial art kicks).

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No comments on what I said about Lucario? I thought people would get riled up because Lucario is so beloved.

I'm hoping we could get both, honestly, but if I had to pick one over the other I'd definitely take Mewtwo.
I'm really hoping for both.

edited 18th Dec '13 5:59:47 PM by zeromaeus

I'd rather have both stay. I really like Lucario, and I wouldn't want to see him get the boot up his backside.

edited 18th Dec '13 6:01:24 PM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."

Wolf also barely has 3 moves in common. His Dash Attack is the same as Fox's Up Smash. But they aren't in the same slot, so I don't know if anyone considers that a clone move.

Falco does not fight heavily different from Fox. Wolf does.

And no, Sakurai has not actually said that the Original 12 are safe. Or any veterans. He has said he really likes the Brawl characters, however. So I find them a lot more safe than Melee ones. The only Melee veteran I don't think it truly safe currently is Falco, of the ones that returned to Brawl. And I don't see why he would leave. I also entirely disagree with having franchise representation based upon popularity alone. It should be good characters and having a nice spread out roster. Clones or not, Starfox has a great setup list. I'd like one more at max.

Mario is well-rounded out now with a good list. 5 is not bad. Maybe one more, but it's not needed. Zelda was at 5 characters since Melee, and I don't mind that number either. I would not mind if Metroid got a 3rd playable character.(key term being character, not slot) As for Pokemon, it had a lot in Brawl as is, being 6. I don't mind that myself. I wouldn't mind as long as it doesn't go above 8 total characters.(to wit; I do not count Ice Climbers as two separate characters play-wise, but I would count Charizard and Squirtle as two separate ones. What I mean by total characters is separate ones playing independent of another, strictly through switching them out, transformations or otherwise)

I would love to see another F-Zero, Yoshi, and/or Wario, but only F-Zero feels needed at this point. At least for better roster representation.

I actually think Lucario should be cut. That slot should change for a new pokemon every game.

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No. :V Just thought there'd be disagreement.

Yes, because I totally said that. >.>

edited 18th Dec '13 6:02:11 PM by CassidyTheDevil

I'd like both him and Mewtwo.

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o_o Rosalina.

So, in-universe, she's... the fourth most powerful character in the franchise, behind Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu, and the most powerful on the roster?

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Yeah, Sakurai hasn't said the original 12 are all safe, but I expect they'll all return anyway because duh.

I wouldn't put her under Master Hand and the like, honestly.
Ah well. People can play their goddess all they like.
Hopefully I'll have my triumph of science (Mewtwo) to counter it.
Or a little boxer with big dreams.
Or a space dragon pirate.
Definitely a little blue robot.

One of my favorita Mario characters has entered the fray!

Up yours, haters!!! >=)

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Oh don't get me wrong, no one will ever come between me and the little puffball who eats you and steals your signature ability.

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Wait, how is Rosalina one of the most powerful characters in the franchise in-universe?

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She's pretty much the goddess of the Mario universe.

That. It's never outright stated but it's implied that she's either a deity or one of the closest things to it in the Mario series.

Is she? I thought sh3 just, y'know, ran the observatory.

nyo ho ho

Is Rosalina super-tall like in Mario Galaxy, or normal height like 3D World?