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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#1426: Mar 3rd 2011 at 1:53:49 AM

... B- but...

Hey, Sparky, I'm really looking forward to what you have to say about Marisa! *flails hands*

The pagetopper compels you!

edited 3rd Mar '11 1:54:26 AM by Fawriel

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#1427: Mar 3rd 2011 at 2:02:38 AM

... B- but...

Hey, Sparky, I'm really looking forward to what you have to say about Marisa! *flails hands*

The pagetopper compels you!

I really don't get why so many people are focusing on the hat's wearer. What do the little details like her matter? She's such an insignificant aspect of the hat's bigger picture.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#1428: Mar 3rd 2011 at 2:06:07 AM

Well I guess most of us are simply fashion philistines, sad to say.

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#1429: Mar 3rd 2011 at 2:09:50 AM

Typical. Lord High Hatsmith Ōta would be very disappointed in you all.

Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#1430: Mar 3rd 2011 at 4:28:08 AM

Very well then. I speculate that her hat is where she keeps all her stuff. It certainly is big enough.

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#1431: Mar 3rd 2011 at 5:11:00 AM

No, no. You have it all wrong. Marisa is where the hat keeps all of its stuff.

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SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#1432: Mar 3rd 2011 at 7:39:29 AM

No, no. You have it all wrong. Marisa is where the hat keeps all of its stuff.

The hat thinks on a level above mere mortals. It has no need for such materialistic things as "stuff". Marisa herself is its only worldly possession.

edited 3rd Mar '11 7:39:42 AM by SuperDimensionman

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#1433: Mar 3rd 2011 at 7:44:53 AM

I have been foolish.

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TARDISES pirate girl Since: May, 2011
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#1434: Mar 3rd 2011 at 8:54:06 AM

FFS, it's just a hat! And not even a fez. (Fezzes are cool, BTW)

edited 3rd Mar '11 8:54:42 AM by TARDISES

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#1435: Mar 3rd 2011 at 9:03:34 AM

FFS, it's just a hat! And not even a fez. (Fezzes are cool, BTW)

Do not speak so lightly of the Hat of Kirisame! Its power and wisdom are legendary throughout all Gensokyo! Only the greatest of hatters could hope to ever create its equal.

edited 3rd Mar '11 9:03:56 AM by SuperDimensionman

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#1436: Mar 3rd 2011 at 10:06:25 AM

I can speak lightly of it because it's jsut a hit. end of discussion. You don't se me obsessing over the Doctor's Fez, do you?

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#1437: Mar 3rd 2011 at 10:09:15 AM

By that logic, Excalibur is just a sword and Kogasa is just an umbrella.

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#1438: Mar 3rd 2011 at 10:13:03 AM

Excalibur? just a sword. Kogasa's not an umbrella... that's just her title.

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#1439: Mar 3rd 2011 at 10:24:09 AM

Someone needs to look up what a karakasa is.

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#1441: Mar 3rd 2011 at 11:18:26 AM

Tsukumogami.

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#1442: Mar 3rd 2011 at 11:31:50 AM

still not making any sense to me...

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#1443: Mar 3rd 2011 at 11:35:09 AM

What it means is that Kogasa is an umbrella.

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#1444: Mar 3rd 2011 at 11:39:39 AM

Kogasa is the umbrella, but Marisa is not the hat. Can we talk about something else now?

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#1445: Mar 3rd 2011 at 11:54:55 AM

Kogasa is the umbrella, but Marisa is not the hat. Can we talk about something else now?

Okay: could anyone copy someone else's spell and use it herself and Marisa is the only one with a mind to do so, or is that ability uniquely hers? Can any kind of magic be shaped however the user wants, or is it only love-colored magic that's malleable enough to do that?

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#1446: Mar 3rd 2011 at 12:00:40 PM

Satori also copies spells. As did Byakuren.

I think any spells can be copied as long as they aren't based on innate abilities. The Grimoire of Marisa even talks about which ones she can't copy.

It might only be magicians and the like that can copy spells though. Reimu's power comes from a different source so I don't think she could copy spells unless they were divine.

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#1447: Mar 3rd 2011 at 12:04:46 PM

Marisa Kirisame - Vessel of a Star

Marisa, everyone's favourite witch, and one of the two (or now three?) regular protagonists of the series, enjoys quite a colourful history. Aside from the fandom's proclivity to pair her off with nearly any other character, she's got a reputation as a thief and as one of the people around Gensokyo in possession of a giant laser attack. Beyond that though, she's also known as the possible ex-pupil of another character, the 'evil spirit' Mima. Despite being a main character of the series prior to Eo SD, Mima has seemingly vanished, with no trace to be found...

... Until you take a closer look at Marisa. Her most recent appearance sees her with her usual large white bow on her hat, but also a curious new addition: a golden star towards the left side of the front, a placement that coincides with the 'star' on Mima's hat. As well, recently she's been seen wearing short cloaks, complete with a bow tying it together. Considering that in the past she had been known to even use Mima's attack patterns, perhaps the theory of Mima being Marisa's teacher is true, but she wasn't training a pupil, she was training a replacement. After all, what else would be fitting for an evil spirit than conditioning a young girl to serve as a new body for her continued existence? It's Mima's presence within Marisa that compels the more questionable behaviour the witch is responsible for, biding her time as her influence and control slowly spreads through Marisa.

Marisa's slow shift towards duplicating Mima's appearance is the first warning sign. The longer the spirit remains within Marisa, the more control she gains. Fans clamour for Mima's return, unaware that the entire time she's been with them, hiding within her old student. When her time to return does come, it will mean quite a bad deal for Marisa, and possibly the rest of Gensokyo.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#1448: Mar 3rd 2011 at 12:04:50 PM

Hell yeah, DnD mechanics! I've been thinking that Marisa would make for an excellent character to roleplay in that system, if you can roll good enough physical stats to complement your intelligence. And if you can get your DM to give you a flying broom or something.

Edit: [up] Oho!

edited 3rd Mar '11 12:06:01 PM by Fawriel

Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#1449: Mar 3rd 2011 at 12:09:17 PM

I guess Marisa is just one of the few people who actually bothers to copy other people's techniques. The others stick with doing what they do best rather than trying to imitate something that may not fit their natural powers.

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#1450: Mar 3rd 2011 at 12:12:59 PM

Oh, yeah. I forgot that Alice does it too. Her Goliath Doll spell is reverse-engineered from Suika's Missing Purple Power spell, I think.

Since the spell tends to explode, its not quite ready yet but Alice does take spells and engineer them to be used with her dolls.

Taking in consideration Byakuren using Devil's Recitation and Patchy's library of magic books, many not written by her, I think its just a magician thing to borrow, steal, adapt others spells. Its the thing to do when your only ability is "can use magic."

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