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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#11401: Oct 1st 2011 at 11:24:31 AM

Come on, Faw, concentrate!

Her power is creation, not merely summoning. The same kind of word you'd use for a creator god. What she actually creates is "kon" one of the 8 trigrams of the I Ching, which represents, among other things, Yin, Earth and the direction of Southwest. It's not an everyday word. For reference, Kanako creates "ken" which represents Yang, Heaven and Northwest. Anyway, to me it sounds like she creates dirt. Other trigrams would represent mountains or lakes, so she doesn't create those. What do you know, more Taoism.
This is interesting! Now if only I knew what to really make of it.

Kinda ironic that Suwako "creates" kon, which is apparently the least "creative" of the elements represented. It's the most "receptive"... whatever that may mean. Well, apparently one of the traits associated with it is "yielding", and that fits quite nicely into the backstory, doesn't it? She gave way when Kanako came, after all.

The "mother" bit makes sense, and it's always nice to see recurring elements in various world cultures, like the concept of "Mother Earth". And yeah, I love the family implications, too. Would that make Sanae 巽, the gentle? Hey, what do you know, apparently that's the element of wind. It's also "penetrating" and "thigh" and "gentle entrance" and I'm not sure what to take from this but a "gentle entrance" is definitely less cool than a "dynamic entry".

Gee, you could make an entirey story out of this stuff.

If you look at her Hisoutensoku fighting style though, it involves trees quickly growing out of the ground in offensive ways.
"This tree looks like a pair of breasts!"
"My word!"

Now, I recently watched Suwako's battle in MoF again, and I noticed something amazing.

Reimu was super-friendly towards her. Or rather, Suwako is super-friendly towards Reimu.

Suwako:Oh yes, wouldn't it be great if we start having festivals at your shrine? If we did that, I bet a lot of people would come!

Reimu: A danmaku festival? I wonder if anyone would really come...

Suwako: Of course they will! Let's figure out when it should be; it would be nice to have an annual grand festival!

Reimu: I suppose... I know a little more about the secrets of this shrine now, so I'm going home for today, okay?

Suwako: If you don't get more visitors, or if Kanako does anything strange... Come see me about it, okay?

And now I just checked, and Marisa is, too!

Marisa:If you're going to live here, we'll have to have a feast for you. The youkai won't stand for it if we don't. And maybe not me, either.

Suwako:Oh, scary. If that's the case, we'd better start planning a big feast right away. I'll get 44 reeds for rice gruel right away.

Marisa: A party with rice gruel... the outside world's drinking traditions are pure chaos.

Oh, and Suwako is totally on a playful hatred level with Kanako, too.

Who said we're friends? She selfishly sent my shrine into Gensokyo... Then she shamelessly said, "Oh! Don't worry, it'll be okay". That kind of woman is an enemy. An enemy!

Cute.

I mean, by Touhou banter standards, these people are practically BFFs already! Is that the charisma of a native god...?

But seriously, though, she seems very sociable. It's strange that she doesn't appear more often in... all sorts of places!

Aaaand a shiny battle.

But despite everything, this discussion seems to be drawing to a halt. Is this just a temporary rut? Well, I definitely still have something to write about Suwackers.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#11402: Oct 1st 2011 at 11:43:04 AM

Suwako is a friendly little goddess, ain't she?

I didn't notice the Sanae thing.

I was doing a write up, but I got in a rut, which is why I haven't been as active in the talking. I hope to be done with that soon enough.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11403: Oct 1st 2011 at 11:48:10 AM

Sanae vs Suwako is certainly one of the more dramatic and awesome battles in the series. In fact, I think the only battle that comes close to touching its awesomeness is Shinki at the end of Mystic Square.

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Horselesshorseman It's time... to STOP! from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Mar, 2011
It's time... to STOP!
#11404: Oct 1st 2011 at 11:48:52 AM

And now I know that Suwakopter is the final form.

And that's.... pretty cool.

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Cynicmuffin Since: Aug, 2011
#11405: Oct 1st 2011 at 8:58:15 PM

You know, there's something I realized yesterday, regarding why Sanae has the slightest chance in the aerial fight versus Suwako in the video above, considering it's a last spell and all (aside from the obvious "Suwako isn't taking this nearly as seriously as she is" bit). Also why Suwako isn't great at flying and flaps constantly.

She's an earth goddess. In other words, anything sky/air-related is pretty much the exact opposite of what she stands for. Kanako governing all that can't help a great deal either. And as for the air-battle, Sanae has powers over wind. Probably helps.

Basically, Suwako has ridiculous flight and is generally weaker in the air because she's quite literally not in her element.

Metaflare MERMAID from Yes Since: Apr, 2011
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#11406: Oct 1st 2011 at 9:01:56 PM

But it helps that she can shoot rock geysers 100 ft into the air

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Cynicmuffin Since: Aug, 2011
#11407: Oct 1st 2011 at 9:08:42 PM

Well, yes. I imagine that helps with many things.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11408: Oct 2nd 2011 at 2:12:22 AM

In that case, would the reactor venting itself be a bit of luck for Sanae? Because if the fight had stayed underground, it might've gone really badly for her.

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Cynicmuffin Since: Aug, 2011
#11409: Oct 2nd 2011 at 2:39:23 AM

Might have been, yeah. Though again, the time limit thing kinda makes it a mixed blessing at best.

It's also a good thing for Suwako, but only because she finds it entertaining.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11410: Oct 2nd 2011 at 3:15:40 AM

Of course the whole 'hurtling towards the ground thing' becomes a lot less dramatic when you realise they can both fly.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#11411: Oct 2nd 2011 at 3:20:02 AM

"So for this last part of our duel, we will be flung through the air. If you don't beat me fast enough, you'll hit ground and die."
"Lady Suwako we can both fly. One of us better than the other..."
"Yes but just think how dramatic it will look to our audience."
"What?"

edited 2nd Oct '11 3:20:26 AM by Bocaj

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11412: Oct 2nd 2011 at 3:27:35 AM

Bocaj, how do you do line breaks like that? I have to put double spaces between my lines, and it looks clunky.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#11413: Oct 2nd 2011 at 3:28:46 AM

Two these things at the end of a line
It makes it not all run together.
Back slash? Is that what its called? Its not posting right though.\\

edited 2nd Oct '11 3:31:25 AM by Bocaj

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11414: Oct 2nd 2011 at 3:47:17 AM

Like
this?

edited 2nd Oct '11 3:47:43 AM by asterism

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#11415: Oct 2nd 2011 at 3:49:24 AM

Yes? That is, if you intended to post "like backslash backslash this?"

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Cynicmuffin Since: Aug, 2011
#11416: Oct 2nd 2011 at 4:21:18 AM

Meanwhile I've done a writeup for a character we're already finished with and why did I even do that.

I need help.

edited 2nd Oct '11 4:21:38 AM by Cynicmuffin

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11417: Oct 2nd 2011 at 4:23:03 AM

Au contraire, cherie. That's what the refresher periods are for. Perhaps we should do another one after Suwako.

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Cynicmuffin Since: Aug, 2011
#11418: Oct 2nd 2011 at 4:36:52 AM

...What, exactly, is "cherie"?

Am I a small red thing now.

edited 2nd Oct '11 4:37:08 AM by Cynicmuffin

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11419: Oct 2nd 2011 at 4:43:23 AM

No, that's cherry. 'Cherie' is a French term of endearment. It means 'dear'.

But as far a French endearments go, you have to go a long way to beat 'mon petit chou-fleur'.

edited 2nd Oct '11 4:44:27 AM by asterism

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Cynicmuffin Since: Aug, 2011
#11420: Oct 2nd 2011 at 4:44:34 AM

Oh, so it was just a really strange way to refer to me. Okay!

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#11421: Oct 2nd 2011 at 5:33:12 AM

Au contraire, cherie. That's what the refresher periods are for. Perhaps we should do another one after Suwako.
Sounds like a good call to me because if you guys are getting more interested in teaching forum mark-up to each other than in discussing Touhou characters I think we might need to shake things up a little.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11422: Oct 2nd 2011 at 5:44:56 AM

It's also been about 300 pages since the last one.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#11423: Oct 2nd 2011 at 6:42:00 AM

In my defense, my little mini dialogue was so awesome that Asterism just had to ask how I had accomplished such a thing. But his flabber was so ghast that he could only question the very format.

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#11424: Oct 2nd 2011 at 6:46:45 AM

As expected from a man with a Kogasa avatar.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11425: Oct 2nd 2011 at 9:22:35 AM

Are you implying that for a brief second I lost my elegance and poise? How dare you.

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