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She doesn't leave the mansion. That is canon. It's not canon that she doesn't leave the cellar.
I think popular consensus is that she used to be confined in the cellar until she broke free in the extra stage, after which she was allowed to roam freely? *shrugs*
If it's not canon, it's sufficiently persistent fanon.
Also, the fluff was good. As far as stories about little vampire sisters and their friends being adorable go, that was a very good doujin.
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I don't care what the popular consensus is. It's not canon, and it shouldn't be unquestioningly accepted as if it were.
edited 4th Aug '11 2:50:50 AM by SuperDimensionman
Consider it not unquestioningly accepted, then!
I do have to wonder why it's such a popular idea if it's not really grounded in canon, however. Is this a rare case where the inevitable darker interpretations are less canon than the mindlessly fluffy ones?
There's also...
For about 495 years.
So I can see why people would think what Faw said.
edited 4th Aug '11 2:53:41 AM by Durazno
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It's hard to say. There are a lot of cases on both sides, some darker or fluffier than others, and some closer to or further from canon than others.
For about 495 years.
That's the joke I was talking about. I don't think it should be taken as serious world building or character establishment. I think it's just a joke. It would be like if it went, "Why weren't you here when I was fighting Remilia?" "I've been reading the TV Tropes wiki. For about 495 years."
edited 4th Aug '11 3:01:53 AM by SuperDimensionman
And her final spellcard is "Ripples of 495 Years", which seems to suggest to me that it wasn't all happy funtimes.
Wait, really? That doesn't seem like a joke to me. Well, it might be a joke, but not one that isn't based on a cold, hard reality.
edited 4th Aug '11 3:02:54 AM by Fawriel
One Winged Egret
I dunno, I think questioning dialog that isn't obviously absurd leads you down a dark path of complete skepticism. Next you'll say that maybe vampires need brains to think.
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That's canon, though. You can kill them if you destroy their head, and obviously that's because they need their brain to think.
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You're the only ones that actually need a simple organ for cognition.
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Vampire brains are also actually bones. Synaptic bones.
That was a good minific there Pulse. Only problem is that it does seem to move a bit too fast? If that makes sense?
As for Flandre, eh. I do support the "she isn't actually locked anywhere, being closer to a shut in like Akyuu suggested" theory. It's less that she can't leave the basement, it's more like she just doesn't feel like it most of the time. This probably contradicts canon somewhere, I bet.
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Luckily for us, Flandre hardly appears in canon at all. She has her extra stage dialog, PMISS entry, and an interview with Aya but other than that I don't think she's ever mentioned. None of the other SDM residents seem to mention her in other games from what I can remember, which is kind of interesting considering how many other games and works they appear in. Flandre gets about as much attention in canon as Rumia.
edited 4th Aug '11 4:07:04 AM by Clarste
That is kinda odd. Although I guess when you wrote a character who doesn't want to/can't leave a certain place, it's hard to write them into things. (However, she doesn't even show up in fiction set at the SDM. It's weird.)
I think the only SDM member with less appearances is Koakuma. And she doesn't even have a name.
edited 4th Aug '11 4:32:11 AM by Otherarrow
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What's odd about it? Up until Perfect Cherry Blossom, all of ZUN's Extra Stages were more like side-stories than anything else.
edited 4th Aug '11 4:40:21 AM by SuperDimensionman
And your point is? Just because they show up in "sidestories" doesn't mean they shouldn't show up elsewhere. Sorry if that came off as rude.
I'm not saying put Flandre in everything, but when you have a game and/or story with the rest of the SDM cast at the SDM, Koakuma even getting a cameo, and Flandre doesn't even get a mention, it comes off as a bit odd (at least IMO).
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Flandre gets a practically cameo in Inaba. Practically. I mean, she doesn't actually appear on screen.
Urgh! Where's that fluffy story! I'm going to consume it!
I mostly posted that because Ran goes hatless. It set my heart a-flutter. Also, I couldn't remember the one I really wanted to post and I was damn well not going to post Gungnir or Chibi Flandre. Those are not conducive to an understanding of Remilia. Well, Gungnir does have a potential thing about what would happen if fate gave you everything you wanted but its Stripe Pattern and they used that potential just for gorn and depression. Basically, "Sad Hair Sakuya" was a shitty Sakuya portrayal perhaps but a passable Remilia one and it had a hatless Ran.
I do enjoy fluff occasionally. Oh, damnit! I just remembered what the thing I wanted to post. Uni Mate's A Bright Future 4.
I will never stop loving this artist or his works.
Edit: Double damnit! I should have posted Bright Future when we were discussing Meiling. Its got one of the better/best Meiling portrayals I've seen.
And there needs to be more canon Flandre stuff! Why Zun! Why have you forsaken us in this specific situation! Have Remilia mention her off-hand in victory dialogue in SWR! Have her show up in SSIB to ask Remilia why there was a loud party and why there's a rocket in the library! Have her show up in Oriental Sacred Place during one of the times that Remilia does! I have a fever and the only cure is more Remilia/Flandre interaction!
edited 4th Aug '11 5:18:12 AM by Bocaj
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"Passable", eh? You aren't kidding when you say you don't have any standards, are you?
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I never lie.
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Flandre's also in Shoot the Bullet, which suggests that she got pestered by Aya and countered by juggling crucifixes.
Heart of Stone
But, just about everyone who shows up in a Windows game before Shoot the Bullet was made is in Shoot the Bullet!
With that said, I wish she was in Double Spoiler, if only so we could get Hatate comments on her.
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It's a good story, as per usual for Uni Mate! It's more interesting for Flandre, though, I think. Though it might be the best for Remilia out of what the artist has made? Flandre gets a lot of focus in his works. And it's an interesting Flandre. Flandre.
Man, we're talking so much about the girl. It'll be a tough decision whether we should discuss her or Kaguya when this discussion is over...
Oh yeah, and do go ahead and link to that Meiling thing. As evidenced by plentiful amounts of moon discussion, discussing characters who've already been dealt with is fair game.
edited 4th Aug '11 5:36:33 AM by Fawriel
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Well, its just Bright Future 6. Its mostly a Sakuya story with the snoozing shadow of Meiling hovering about all the proceedings.
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On basement Flan; SDM already whipped my ass* on this one, and having done a little reading around, I've come to the conclusion of her staying within the Mansion of her own will, because she couldn't leave for centuries, and is only starting to get used to her new wings. That Extra Stage tantrum was HIGHLY unusual, and she just wanted Remi to come back!
edited 4th Aug '11 6:37:41 AM by Pulse
I sure said that!
It's at least something people think in-universe.