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Dragonexx Angel of Draconic Wisdom from that one place Since: Aug, 2010
Angel of Draconic Wisdom
#6276: Jul 28th 2011 at 3:43:32 PM

I always just figured all the routes were canon. All the playable characters worked together at the same time.

Doing nothing is a choice.
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#6277: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:08:11 PM

The forums are gonna shut down soon, aren't they? Aww man. It's really late, but I want to at least get the discussion out there now.

Youkai society contained within the Scarlet Devil Mansion!

I am fully aware that it's a silly idea! It seems like an extreme deviation from canon for no reason other than coolness, but the thing is that the coolness would be tremendous! There are a bunch of pictures, I think, that show such a possibility. Usually using the library. Depicting it as a massive structure with hundreds of people living within. Vaults towering over a collossal chasm. So awesome.

It's not entirely impossible, given that we know that the mansion is larger on the inside. And it is already very large. And it's said to have complex structures in the basement. There's also all the fairy maids, which we can be pretty sure Remi keeps around because they liven up the place more than anything. In fact, given that Sakuya is apparently busy all day in spite of the fact that the mansion apparently has so few residents, it's well possible that she spends a lot of her time just cleaning up after the fairies. But, what if the fairies actually do get some work done? What if there's actually a need for so many maids, and what if fairies aren't the only magical beings Remi keeps around in order to feel like she has actual subordinates that aren't practically family like Meiling?

I really love the image of the mansion having all these food stands and stuff in its court, but unless you're artistic-licensing heavy traffic between Gensokyo and Makai into the setting, there just won't be enough tourists to make such a thing worth it. But if Remilia's mansion actually housed a lot of youkai, it would be about as cool in a different way, it would offer tons of potential for stories, and the idea of Remilia throwing parties that only the mansion residents attend takes on a whole new dimension, which one may or may not consider desirable.

So yeah, I want to discuss this, because I really want to find ways to make this work. In a way that is as awesome as possible with as few egregious affronts to canon as possible.

At the moment, I can only picture non-humanoid youkai and lowly humanoid ones just scuttling about randomly in the dungeons below the mansion. This can get so much better, though! Grr!

edited 28th Jul '11 5:08:43 PM by Fawriel

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
"Justice!"
#6278: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:12:47 PM

So yeah, I want to discuss this, because I really want to find ways to make this work. In a way that is as awesome as possible with as few egregious affronts to canon as possible.

As few egregious affronts to canon as possible is still a nonzero number.

edited 28th Jul '11 5:13:30 PM by SuperDimensionman

Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#6279: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:13:41 PM

Location of New Hell: SDM basement.

Dragonexx Angel of Draconic Wisdom from that one place Since: Aug, 2010
Angel of Draconic Wisdom
#6280: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:14:08 PM

The "SDM as city" would probably mean that Koakuma is one of many of her kind.

I'm thinking that maybe most of the sdm population are Koakumas, save for perhaps fairies.

I'm also debating on whether there are other vampires save for flandre and remilia...

EDIT: Wow... ninja'd...twice.

edited 28th Jul '11 5:14:53 PM by Dragonexx

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#6281: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:15:31 PM

Would that make Reimilia a mayor, or some equivalent?

edited 28th Jul '11 5:15:37 PM by KylerThatch

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
B Villain
#6282: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:15:44 PM

[up][up] You can count Kurumi from the PC-98 games.

Ninja'd

On topic: Fairy maids

edited 28th Jul '11 5:18:22 PM by raigakuren

That awkward moment where Kyoro is one of Satan's Generals.
Dragonexx Angel of Draconic Wisdom from that one place Since: Aug, 2010
Angel of Draconic Wisdom
#6284: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:19:20 PM

Who? Sorry, I know little from the pc-98 games.

[up]And yes. Remilia for mayor.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#6285: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:20:54 PM

As few egregious affronts to canon as possible is still a nonzero number.
Its suffering will be for a good cause.

I'm thinking that maybe most of the sdm population are Koakumas, save for perhaps fairies.
That would be boring, though, wouldn't it?

I'm also debating on whether there are other vampires save for flandre and remilia...
Vampires seem to be very powerful as a default, so it would probably be known if there were any.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6286: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:21:04 PM

How about the future? Sure, the mansion has the six residents plus fairy maids now, but soon Remilia will try and coercice more powerful and exotic things into being her servants in a show of power, and then they will bring thier families, who will bring thier friends, who will bring thier families, until we have an (unintentional) whole city inside one mansion, living and triving all underneath Remilia's command. Sure, it will increase Sakuya's work load. Sure, it will make the fairies actually have to work. Sure, it will make Meiling's job more urgant (she isn't just protecting the mansion, she is protecting a whole nation). Sure it will force Patchy and Flandre to actually interact with people. But it will be all for the best!

At least, until something goes wrong and Reimu decides she has to clean house. (pun) Then Sanae starts attacking the mansion as her youkai hunting training. Then Yuuka attacks the mansion because why not. (Marisa does as always, just this time having to fight through more youkai to get to the yummy books) Soon it escalates into Gensoukyou VS the Scarlet Devil Mansion Nation Mansion. Which would be awesome.

ALSO: if the forum is going down, will this thread still be here when it comes back? Or is it gone forever? (Is not in the know on TV Tropes forum workings, sorry)

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Dragonexx Angel of Draconic Wisdom from that one place Since: Aug, 2010
Angel of Draconic Wisdom
#6287: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:23:03 PM

I'm fairly certain that there just updating some things. We probably won't lose any posts.

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SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
"Justice!"
#6288: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:27:10 PM

Its suffering will be for a good cause.

Monster! You're torturing an innocent canon for your own twisted pleasure!

edited 28th Jul '11 5:28:00 PM by SuperDimensionman

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6289: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:30:03 PM

That dwarf infestation idea is fantastic... well, I guess it could be anything, not just dwarves. It's possible that in her zeal, Remi had Sakuya create a space that's far too large for them to police properly, and, depending on the nature of space screwery, the mansion interior might border on some really strange places.

raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
B Villain
#6290: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:31:20 PM

wild mass guessScarlet Devil Mansion is a Time Lord.wild mass guess

That awkward moment where Kyoro is one of Satan's Generals.
Dragonexx Angel of Draconic Wisdom from that one place Since: Aug, 2010
Angel of Draconic Wisdom
#6291: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:31:34 PM

[up][up]Bah. The easily alterable interpretations of characters is what I think makes touhou so popular.

edited 28th Jul '11 5:32:47 PM by Dragonexx

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#6292: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:33:05 PM

Monster! You're torturing an innocent canon for your own twisted pleasure!
It's not my fault it's dressing so provocatively!

Wait, wrong accusation.

Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#6293: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:35:02 PM

That canon was a potential terrorist.

raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
B Villain
#6294: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:35:08 PM

Repent on your sins of going against the canon. I am canon. You are canon. We are all canon....wait no we are all Metaflare

...sadly there's a lack of things being fired.

edited 28th Jul '11 5:40:54 PM by raigakuren

That awkward moment where Kyoro is one of Satan's Generals.
Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6295: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:37:44 PM

But but but...Everyone else does it! Why can't we have some fun?

ON TOPIC: Just wait until the richer citizens of Scarlet Devil Mansion Nation Mansion start building mansions! And Remilia has a bigger one made because she needs to be bigger than everyone! (Insert Inception joke here)

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Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#6296: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:40:47 PM

By the time it reached that point, the SDM would be a megastructure that occupied a large chunk of Gensokyo.

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6297: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:41:27 PM

[up][up]BWAAAAAHN.

I think that Remilia would just be sure to swing by and rub their faces in the fact that her mansion will always be the biggest because the additions they're building also make hers bigger by definition.

[up]Well, it would be as big as a good chunk of Gensokyo, but it would still be contained in the mansion's (comparatively) modest footprint.

edited 28th Jul '11 5:42:18 PM by Durazno

raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
B Villain
#6298: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:41:38 PM

[up][up][up] Koishi and Satori are fooling around with people's hearts and subconsciousness.

Why does everybody ninja me?

edited 28th Jul '11 5:42:26 PM by raigakuren

That awkward moment where Kyoro is one of Satan's Generals.
Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#6299: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:44:59 PM

Because this thread is full of ninjas.

But yes, if the SDM were ever to expand, Remilia would get all the lower youkai to do it for her. She finally gets to put her infinite charisma to good use by manipulating all of them.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6300: Jul 28th 2011 at 5:54:25 PM

Well, charisma and fatehax.

"Go forth, my people! You are fated to make me that new bloodpark!"

"Weren't we fated to make you the hot bloodspring?"

"You have a long and involved fate, which includes both of those things. Now go forth!"

"Milady, aren't you abusing your power?"

"I didn't say you could backtalk me Sakuya. Sometimes it takes a little, mmm mmm, charisma, to command the legions of the SDMNM."

She sighs. "Yes, milady. Forgive my rudeness."

What? A bloodpark is a waterpark with all the water (somehow) replaced with blood!

edited 28th Jul '11 5:55:18 PM by Otherarrow

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