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There was the Fake Boyfriend thing in Time of the Doctor and under the truth field she starts to say "I’m an English teacher from the planet Earth and I’ve run off with a man from space because I really fancy-" but there's more than one way that sentence could go probably.
Capaldi Doctor certainly thinks Clara had a thing for him when he picks the vaguely Matt Smith looking teacher out as the one she's dating.
Either way, it was never acted on. Not even in the Martha-pining-forever way.
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I mean, the Truth Field at Christmas got Clara admitting she fancies ____________.
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Plausible deniability, that.
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Indeed.
Also we do need an icon-sized Raston icon we can use in the Doctor Who thread instead of the .
I'd kinda prefer the Doctor and the Master have a non-sexual relationship, because we do kinda have the tendency to sexualize everything these days. It is possible for one person to have a close, non-sexual relationship with someone to whom they're not related.
From series 9, episode 1, "The Magician's Apprentice"—written by Moffat—
CLARA: Mmm. Must be love.
MISSY: Oh, don't be disgusting. We're Time Lords, not animals. Try, nano-brain, to rise above the reproductive frenzy of your noisy little food chain, and contemplate friendship.
Like. Donna's relationship with the Doctor is defined by them not being an item. They're mistaken for one literally every episode. Whereas after her brief PTSD-enduced attempt at a fling, Doctor/Amy is never again mentioned as a possibility, except occasionally by Rory in a fit of (always short-lived) paranoia.
Granted, Moffat's tenure has far fewer recurring characters. Which might make the few that are sleeping together stand out more. (Amy/Rory, Vastra/Jenny, Doctor/River, Clara/Danny, Clara/Jane Austen...)
edited 10th Jul '16 7:02:15 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
I'm not saying Clara/Doctor were sexually attracted..... but all the pushing how she was the bestest most important, most greatest, closest person EVAR! And how she meant more then anything else, and was the reason the Doctor is who he is, and how uber important that he couldn't go on without her ever.........
It just pushed things way to hard to make her so super special.
Donna is not Clara. So it should be:
edited 10th Jul '16 7:20:24 PM by unnoun
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That's really changing the goalposts to bring back an old chestnut. Please don't resurrect drama unless its relevant.
No, instead with clara we got "I'm so important!" And a whole season devoted to the most boring, tedious, monotonous, forced, lacking in any chemistry whatsoever excuse for a romance arc ever.
Why the hell does every show have to shoe horn in some stupid, idiotic romance crap?
Please don't change the subject.
edited 10th Jul '16 7:33:33 PM by unnoun
How is that 'changing the subject' when the whole topic was the need to make the Companion want to bang the doctor, versus realizing that. hey you know what.. not EVERYTHING has to be about sex!
Clara didn't wanna bang the Doctor.
Well, not after he got all old and wrinkly at least, then it was just about making her the most importantest thing to ever exist for him.
Did.
Did you miss the bit where she explicitly says she doesn't want to fuck anyone who looks like Eleven.
Like. Literally called a Matt Smith lookalike "not my type".
Also wait are you suggesting Clara made a conscious effort to—what—force the Doctor to care about no one more than her?
Wait are you suggesting that having sex with someone and being the most important person to them are the same dang thing
edited 10th Jul '16 7:45:06 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
No, I'm saying stop trying to make them anything but simple, regular friends. There is no need for endless romance BS, or to try and cram down our throat just how super special and vital, and most closest thing ever the Doctor could never ever be without them without going insane they are.
I dunno, man, I'd fucking trick an ancient, alien race into letting me unkill one of my friends if I had the opertunity.
Or jump into a time portal to stop an ancient being from killing them at all points in time simultaneously.
Or, um. Actually I think that's it.
Which, considering Rose once ate the TARDIS to save the Doctor, Martha got the entire planet to worship him, and Donna once literally became the Doctor, is. Er. Pretty friggin mild. Comparatively.
But yeah. Just because friends do weird shit for each other doesn't mean they're not just friends at the core of it.
edited 10th Jul '16 7:52:57 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
And none of those came even close to as "I'm so super ultra special and important" as Clara did. Everything about her was just about screaming how important and precious and bestest ever she was... even if you had to retcon everything about the Doctor being due to her to do it.
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That still doesn't have anything to do with the original discussion.
Why are you dragging this up again
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I'm trying to remember, have their been any on screen companions (ones that met via their association with the Doctor) who got together romantically?
Martha and Mickey, out of nowhere in The End of Time.
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.... Wait a second.... wait.... how the hell does that make any sense? Mickey was over in that parallel Earth.
Ah, right. Kind of surprising we've never seen that sort of dynamic fully explored in an arc on the show. Perhaps showrunners feel its loses some impact or meaning unless the Doctor's outright involved.
edited 10th Jul '16 8:55:13 PM by BorneAgain
Oh, it all makes perfect sense, and not just because Mickey stuck around on our Earth after coming back in Journey's End either. No, it's because Mickey's black and Martha's black, so why wouldn't they fall in love offscreen despite having barely anything in common other than traveling around with a daft old man in a magic box? (And being black?)
edited 10th Jul '16 8:59:04 PM by kkhohoho
And being in Rose's shadow.
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"Deep Breath". Series eight opener.
Raston'd.
edited 10th Jul '16 6:54:18 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.