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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#143476: Oct 26th 2016 at 8:04:26 PM

The word you're looking for is 'asspull'. If it had been referenced earlier, or if it had been said that it could, or if Sasuke had shown the ability to before, what it would not have been is an asspull.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#143477: Oct 26th 2016 at 8:07:28 PM

Type in the word asspull on Google, go to images, and all you'll see is Naruto. (And a sprinkle of Bleach here and there)

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#143478: Oct 26th 2016 at 8:19:52 PM

Nah, there's plenty of other manga too. It's just mostly dominated by Naruto.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#143479: Oct 26th 2016 at 8:30:54 PM

Well that kinda says something.

Pretty damn funny though.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#143480: Oct 26th 2016 at 9:36:46 PM

You guys do know that Deidara was also the first major fight Sasuke had throughout Part 2 right? His fight with Team 7 didn't even have him use the Sharingan until he suppressed Kurama's influence, and his use of Sharingan against Orochimaru was strictly to reverse his Body Hopping jutsu back on him, in order to get all of his powers.

edited 26th Oct '16 9:37:03 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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TheCuriousFan Since: Jan, 2011
#143481: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:17:03 PM

When was the Sharigan ever referenced to always be able to see chakra? Genjutsu and precognition were shown to be it's primary uses, along with heightened senses. How many times did Sasuke use the "chakra-seeing" aspect of the Sharigan in part one? Or Kakashi for that matter. Pretty sure Deidara was the first instance of this.
There was that one time in the forest where he saw the illusions as floating clouds of chakra when he had his sharingan turned on. Though the Deidara fight was the first time where it was explicitly explained IIRC.

EDIT: Went back and checked and he could see Naruto and Kabuto's chakra radiating from them.

All Kishimoto had to do was leave the cliffhanger with Sasuke going "OH SHIT" like German Cell and then reveal that Obito rescued him.
Consider what needing to be saved from Deidara would do to Sasuke's credibility as a threat.

edited 26th Oct '16 10:18:52 PM by TheCuriousFan

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#143482: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:22:42 PM

An asspull way of surviving, on the other hand, shows the author's bias.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#143483: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:28:43 PM

Deidara pretty much won that fight. Sasuke literally had no other options & only survived due to plot armor. If it wasn't for that Deidara would have had the fight completely in the bag. He genuinely beat Sasuke no matter what honestly & is the superior combatant.

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#143484: Oct 27th 2016 at 1:19:39 AM

Ragequitting isnt much of a victory.

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Bolded1 Divine Burden from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
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#143485: Oct 27th 2016 at 2:01:59 AM

Nah, Sasuke won the fight. Deidara just went full COD after losing.

Fallout 2? More like Fallout 2 bad.
Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#143486: Oct 27th 2016 at 2:02:15 AM

Ragequitting, surely not! He went out in a blaze of dignified glory, knowing he was doing his bit to make the world a better place; no tantrums there sir.

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#143487: Oct 27th 2016 at 2:18:40 AM

Deidara pretty much won that fight. Sasuke literally had no other options & only survived due to plot armor. If it wasn't for that Deidara would have had the fight completely in the bag. He genuinely beat Sasuke no matter what honestly & is the superior combatant.

Lol, no. Sasuke completely crushed him. He outwitted him and had the elemental advantage.

Sasuke didn't even need to use his best technique.

Deidara did and the best he could've gotten out of that was a tie.

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Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#143488: Oct 27th 2016 at 2:21:45 AM

If he completely crushed him why did he almost die?

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Divine Burden
#143489: Oct 27th 2016 at 2:24:42 AM

Because Sasuke was still out of chakra and Deidara was like "FUCK YYYOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU."

Fallout 2? More like Fallout 2 bad.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#143490: Oct 27th 2016 at 3:09:55 AM

@TheCuriousFan

Alternatively, he could've just had Sasuke win and Deidara not use some sort of suicide technique that should've killed Sasuke but didn't because of his incredibly thick plot armor.

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TheCuriousFan Since: Jan, 2011
#143491: Oct 27th 2016 at 3:40:05 AM

@The Curious Fan Alternatively, he could've just had Sasuke win and Deidara not use some sort of suicide technique that should've killed Sasuke but didn't because of his incredibly thick plot armor.
Preaching to the choir here IANCE.

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
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#143492: Oct 27th 2016 at 4:04:17 AM

Despite it's reputation id say Fairy Tail is a bigger offender of Ass Pull than Naruto

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#143493: Oct 27th 2016 at 4:28:50 AM

Eh, Fairy Tail's Asspulls are irritating, but considering Mashima does it for every single fight ever, most people are desensitized to it.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#143494: Oct 27th 2016 at 6:21:32 AM

It's really Naruto that gets the most flack, despite a number of beloved manga being just as bad or worse. Ever tried criticizing Hunter x Hunter? Fanbase is rabid as all hell.

The Danzo fight itself was fine. The issue was Danzo ended up as a red herring with my real relevance to the overall plot and just became a convenient guy to pin all the village's problems on

Btw, as for the Sharingan being able to see chakra...didn't Obito first do that in a flashback?

edited 27th Oct '16 6:23:15 AM by Lightysnake

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#143495: Oct 27th 2016 at 2:35:37 PM

Naruto gets the most flack and there's a lot of other anime that do a lot of ass pulling, too.

The problem is that Naruto is way more popular than the other manga and anime that do a lot of ass pulling, and it also tends to strain people's tolerance for them a lot more because the characters who keep doing asspulls are the base breaker Uchiha Clan.

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#143496: Oct 27th 2016 at 3:49:23 PM

Uchihas are the best base breaker, lol, they either made the manga much better, or completely ruined everything about it, no middle ground.

Fallout 2? More like Fallout 2 bad.
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#143497: Oct 27th 2016 at 4:01:21 PM

[up][up] Not to play that card, but people also had higher expectations for Naruto. tongue

Naruto and Fairy Tail's asspulls is like a B-Student and a D-Student failing a test. The B-Student's failure is going to standout much more in that regard. tongue

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#143498: Oct 27th 2016 at 4:10:38 PM

It would be if they were that different in terms of quality, but... honestly, while Kishimoto had a lot of good ideas, he has handled most of them terribly. Mostly because he decided to focus on the Uchiha to the detriment of everything else.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#143499: Oct 27th 2016 at 4:40:43 PM

That didn't happen until the Uchiha starting taking over the plot though. Most people online had a high opinion of Naruto before the Kage Summit took place.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#143500: Oct 27th 2016 at 4:53:05 PM

Naruto was the big manga for a lot of people so they thought pretty highly of it.

I know I did, aside from DB this was the first anime I saw when I was a little kid & I put it on a pedestal for years.

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