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* RonTheDeathEater: In Literature/TheBible, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esau Esau]] was a rival to his brother Jacob, but nowhere near an outright villain (and remember, Jacob tricked ''him'' out of ''his'' birthright). He even forgives Jacob when they meet again as adults.[[note]]Jacob did give him a lot of livestock though.[[/note]] However, since he was considered to be the ancestor of the Edomites, enemies of the Israelites,[[note]]The Edomites didn't exist as a nation by the first century, but they were considered by the rabbis to be the ancestors of all the nations and people that have persecuted Jews throughout history, including [[Literature/BookOfEsther Haman]] and Rome[[/note]] he was given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade. According to the Talmud, he was a [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking rapist, murderer, and he denied God]]. He also [[KickTheDog tried to prevent Jacob being buried]] with Abraham and Isaac in the Cave of the Patriarchs, claiming that as firstborn he had the right to be buried there.
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** Esau was a homicidal maniac who skipped his grandfather Abraham's funeral to go raping and murdering. He continued to make trouble right up to arguing over the recently-deceased Jacob's burial plot, whereupon an exasperated great-nephew decapitated him.
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** Esau Esau, rather than merely a thoughtless and short-sighted man who eventually forgave Jacob's deception, was a homicidal maniac who skipped his grandfather Abraham's funeral to go raping and murdering. He continued to make trouble right up to arguing over the recently-deceased Jacob's burial plot, whereupon an exasperated great-nephew decapitated him.
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** Was Nimrod simply an arrogant hunter and king or was he the terrible villain he was in {{Myth/Abraham and the Idol Shop}}.
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* ValuesDissonance: Oh boy. Let’s just say there’s a lot of xenophobia and misogyny going on, to the point that experts think that translating the Talmud to Arabic is anti-Semitic. [[http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?ID=263861&R=R1 Seriously.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: Oh boy. Let’s just say there’s a lot of xenophobia and misogyny going on, to the point that experts think that translating the Talmud to Arabic is anti-Semitic.antisemitic. [[http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?ID=263861&R=R1 Seriously.]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: All the commentary and supplementary information given about various figures can make them look quite different than they would from reading Literature/TheBible alone. Possibilities include:
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: All the commentary and supplementary information given about various figures can make them look quite different than they would from reading Literature/TheBible alone. Possibilities include:
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** ...I'll just say there's a reason you aren't supposed to learn it without a teacher, or at least commentators.
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** One of the more humorous interpretations is https://metapianycist.tumblr.com/post/131591463783/kuttithevangu-dont-get-into-pointless this discussion]] of Yevamot 65b: "Don't get into pointless arguments with [[InternetJerk jerks on the internet]]."
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** One of the more humorous interpretations is https://metapianycist.[[https://metapianycist.tumblr.com/post/131591463783/kuttithevangu-dont-get-into-pointless this discussion]] of Yevamot 65b: "Don't get into pointless arguments with [[InternetJerk jerks on the internet]]."
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* {{Applicability}}: Naturally, the Talmud contains so many discussions about so many topics that it can be applied to nearly anything. For instance, the prohibition on lighting a fire on Shabbat has been extrapolated to forbid the use of electricity on Shabbat as well (unless the electricity was already on beforehand).
** One of the more humorous interpretations is https://metapianycist.tumblr.com/post/131591463783/kuttithevangu-dont-get-into-pointless this discussion]] of Yevamot 65b: "Don't get into pointless arguments with [[InternetJerk jerks on the internet]]."
** One of the more humorous interpretations is https://metapianycist.tumblr.com/post/131591463783/kuttithevangu-dont-get-into-pointless this discussion]] of Yevamot 65b: "Don't get into pointless arguments with [[InternetJerk jerks on the internet]]."
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** The otherwise righteous Job was an AccompliceByInaction to Pharaoh's mass murder of the Hebrew boys, and ''that's'' why his own children were killed.
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** The otherwise righteous Job was an AccompliceByInaction to Pharaoh's mass murder of the Hebrew boys, and ''that's'' why the real reason he suffered so badly and his own children were killed.
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** Shabbat 55b-56b is one long series of "It may look to the untrained eye like the Torah said these prominent figures did something wrong but they ''actually totally didn't.''"
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** Ahasuerus didn't just ask Vashti to come show herself to his party, he wanted her to do it ''naked''. And he didn't just divorce/banish her when she refused, he had her executed. But don't worry, Vashti [[AssholeVictim totally had it coming]] as a sinful, wanton Babylonian who abused her Jewish servants.
** Shabbat 55b-56b is one long series of "It may look to the untrained eye like the Torah said these prominent figures did something wrong but they ''actually totally didn't.''"''" Subjects range from Eli's sons to Reuben to David and Solomon.
** Shabbat 55b-56b is one long series of "It may look to the untrained eye like the Torah said these prominent figures did something wrong but they ''actually totally didn't.
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** The holy books are where you learn [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar all the cool things your parents would never let you read otherwise]]. Dina and Tamar and all those concubines, oh my!
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** The holy books are where you learn [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar all the cool things your parents would never let you read otherwise]].otherwise. Dina and Tamar and all those concubines, oh my!
