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* FandomRivalry:
** ''Skyward Sword'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', and all because of the name. Well that, ''and'' both games were released in November of 2011, with both coming from well established action/adventure/fantasy franchises (''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' and ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''). There's a bit of FriendlyFandoms at play, though, especially considering Eiji Aonuma stated he was a fan of ''Skyrim'' (to the point that it influenced the more open-world approach he took with ''Breath of the Wild'').
** The HD remaster gained one against ''VideoGame/SonicColors'' when its ''Ultimate'' remaster was announced. The fact that ''Sonic'' was $20 less didn't help. Though after the latter's [[PortingDisaster disastrous launch]], ''Zelda'' fans have gotten the last laugh.



* FandomRivalry:
** ''Skyward Sword'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', and all because of the name. Well that, ''and'' both games were released in November of 2011, with both coming from well established action/adventure/fantasy franchises (''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' and ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''). There's a bit of FriendlyFandoms at play, though, especially considering Eiji Aonuma stated he was a fan of ''Skyrim'' (to the point that it influenced the more open-world approach he took with ''Breath of the Wild'').
** The HD remaster gained one against ''VideoGame/SonicColors'' when its ''Ultimate'' remaster was announced. The fact that ''Sonic'' was $20 less didn't help. Though after the latter's [[PortingDisaster disastrous launch]], ''Zelda'' fans have gotten the last laugh.



** [[spoiler:The fact that Link travels back in time and kills Demise in the past after ''also'' killing Demise in the present has led to many fans theorizing that this game created yet another alternate timeline, dubbed the [[AlliterativeTitle "Skyward Split"]]. Some use it as an effective HandWave to explain the existence of the controversial [[FanDislikedExplanation "Downfall" timeline]], while others use it to give ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]'' a definitive place in the series' chronology.]]

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** [[spoiler:The fact that Link travels back in time and kills Demise in the past after ''also'' killing Demise in the present has led to many fans theorizing to theorize that this game created yet another alternate timeline, dubbed the [[AlliterativeTitle "Skyward Split"]]. Some use it as an effective HandWave to explain the existence of the controversial [[FanDislikedExplanation "Downfall" timeline]], while others use it to give ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]'' a definitive place in the series' chronology.]]

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** The HD remaster gained one against ''VideoGame/SonicColors'' when its ''Ultimate'' Edition was announced. The fact that ''Sonic'' was $20 less didn't help. Though after the latter's [[PortingDisaster disastrous launch]] Zelda fans have gotten the last laugh.
* {{Fanon}}: [[spoiler: The residents of Skyloft are all but said to be the original Hylians, with Zelda and Link creating the royal family of Hyrule]]. Conversely, many have accepted a theory that Groose's descendants are the Gerudo, as he is a very large-framed, athletic, muscular person with very red hair, traits that would show up in the Gerudo race [[spoiler: especially in Ganondorf]].

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** The HD remaster gained one against ''VideoGame/SonicColors'' when its ''Ultimate'' Edition remaster was announced. The fact that ''Sonic'' was $20 less didn't help. Though after the latter's [[PortingDisaster disastrous launch]] Zelda launch]], ''Zelda'' fans have gotten the last laugh.
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[[spoiler: The residents of Skyloft are all but said to be the original Hylians, with Zelda and Link creating the royal family of Hyrule]]. Hyrule.]] Conversely, many have accepted a theory that Groose's descendants are the Gerudo, as he is a very large-framed, athletic, muscular person with very red hair, traits that would show up in the Gerudo race [[spoiler: especially race, particularly Ganondorf.
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in Ganondorf]].time and kills Demise in the past after ''also'' killing Demise in the present has led to many fans theorizing that this game created yet another alternate timeline, dubbed the [[AlliterativeTitle "Skyward Split"]]. Some use it as an effective HandWave to explain the existence of the controversial [[FanDislikedExplanation "Downfall" timeline]], while others use it to give ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]'' a definitive place in the series' chronology.]]



** The most controversial addition was the revelation that the Sky-Era Link is the reincarnation of an older Link who directly served Goddess Hylia. Many fans immediately deemed the manga non-canon because his presence contradicts the game's lore, [[spoiler:particularly with Demise exclaiming that no human had ever stood up to him until the Sky-Era Link,]] and they prefer the idea that Sky-Era Link is the first hero and any mention of a predecessor is the result of Link travelling back to the past and defeating Demise there. Proponents for the manga, however, argue that contradictions are deliberately common in Zelda lore and that the story explains the reincarnation cycle of Link and Zelda better [[spoiler:than Demise's DyingCurse (namely that they choose to reincarnate to fight evil rather than be dragged into Demise's eternal war)]].

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** The most controversial addition was the revelation that the Sky-Era Link is the reincarnation of an older Link who directly served Goddess Hylia. Many fans immediately deemed the manga non-canon because his presence contradicts the game's lore, [[spoiler:particularly with Demise exclaiming that no human had ever stood up to him until the Sky-Era Link,]] and they prefer the idea that Sky-Era Link is the first hero and any mention of a predecessor is the result of Link [[spoiler:Link [[StableTimeLoop travelling back to the past and defeating Demise there.there]]]]. Proponents for the manga, however, argue that contradictions are deliberately common in Zelda lore and that the story explains the reincarnation cycle of Link and Zelda better [[spoiler:than Demise's DyingCurse (namely that they choose to reincarnate to fight evil rather than be dragged into Demise's eternal war)]].
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* CharacterPerceptionEvolution: Fi was an immense BaseBreakingCharacter in the years following the release of the game, with those who weren't endeared to her portrayal as the living personification of the Master Sword instead finding her bland, [[CaptainObvious a chronic hand-holder]], and [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper in urgent need of shutting up]], where even with [[AlasPoorScrappy her well-received farewell]], folks weren't exactly clamoring for her to come back. However, when ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' came around, [[UnexpectedCharacter Fi's existence was unexpectedly alluded to]] in a handful of pivotal scenes -- most famously [[spoiler:during the flashback of Zelda's DarkestHour, with the Master Sword [[SmallRoleBigImpact silently communicating with her on how to revive Link in the Shrine of Resurrection]]]] -- and while [[TheGhost she never "appears" nor is she identified by name]], this was seen as a very deliberate sign that she wasn't just a OneShotCharacter, and true to her portrayal in ''Skyward Sword'', [[UndyingLoyalty she is]] ''[[UndyingLoyalty always]]'' [[UndyingLoyalty looking out for her master]]. Especially in conjunction with [[CriticalBacklash backlash to the backlash]] over how she acts as a ''Zelda'' sidekick (the Switch port of ''Skyward Sword'' making her much less intrusive, thus letting her actual character take precedent), opinions have greatly softened on Fi, with her having earned her place in the franchise's mythology.

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[MaouTheDemonKing Demon King Demise]] rises from [[BeneathTheEarth beneath the Surface]] to TakeOverTheWorld. Seeking the Triforce, Demise leads his army of monsters across the land, slaughtering as many humans as possible and burning entire villages to the ground, even [[HeroKiller killing Link himself]] in the process while mocking the hero's courage. After facing the Goddess Hylia in a final battle and being defeated, Demise spitefully vows to return as he is [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]].]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[MaouTheDemonKing Demon King Demise]] rises from [[BeneathTheEarth beneath the Surface]] Surface to TakeOverTheWorld. Seeking the Triforce, Demise leads his army of monsters across the land, slaughtering as many humans as possible and burning entire villages to the ground, even [[HeroKiller killing Link himself]] in the process while [[KickTheDog mocking the hero's courage.courage]]. After facing the Goddess Hylia in a final battle and being defeated, Demise spitefully vows to return as he is [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]].]]
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* BrokenBase: On whether the manga should be considered canon in some form. Unlike the other Zelda manga by Akira Himekawa, this is not an adaptation of ''Skyward Sword'' but rather its backstory detailing the Ancient Battle between Hylia and Demise, and it was only released with ''Literature/HyruleHistoria'', a canonical book that first detailed the Zelda Timeline. Naturally, fans argue over its canonicity status.
** The most controversial addition was the revelation that the Sky-Era Link is the reincarnation of an older Link who directly served Goddess Hylia. Many fans immediately deemed the manga non-canon because his presence contradicts the game's lore, particularly with Demise exclaiming that no human had ever stood up to him until the Sky-Era Link, and they prefer the idea that Sky-Era Link is the first hero and any mention of a predecessor is the result of Link travelling back to the past and defeating Demise there. Proponents for the manga, however, argue that contradictions are deliberately common in Zelda lore and that the story explains the reincarnation cycle of Link and Zelda better than Demise's DyingCurse (namely that they choose to reincarnate to fight evil rather than be dragged into Demise's eternal war).

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* BrokenBase: On whether the manga should be considered canon in some form. Unlike the other Zelda manga by Akira Himekawa, this is not an adaptation of ''Skyward Sword'' but rather its backstory detailing the Ancient Battle between Hylia and Demise, [[spoiler:Demise]], and it was only released with ''Literature/HyruleHistoria'', a canonical book that first detailed the Zelda Timeline. Naturally, fans argue over its canonicity status.
** The most controversial addition was the revelation that the Sky-Era Link is the reincarnation of an older Link who directly served Goddess Hylia. Many fans immediately deemed the manga non-canon because his presence contradicts the game's lore, particularly [[spoiler:particularly with Demise exclaiming that no human had ever stood up to him until the Sky-Era Link, Link,]] and they prefer the idea that Sky-Era Link is the first hero and any mention of a predecessor is the result of Link travelling back to the past and defeating Demise there. Proponents for the manga, however, argue that contradictions are deliberately common in Zelda lore and that the story explains the reincarnation cycle of Link and Zelda better than [[spoiler:than Demise's DyingCurse (namely that they choose to reincarnate to fight evil rather than be dragged into Demise's eternal war).war)]].



* CompleteMonster: [[MaouTheDemonKing Demon King Demise]] rises from [[BeneathTheEarth beneath the Surface]] to TakeOverTheWorld. Seeking the Triforce, Demise leads his army of monsters across the land, slaughtering as many humans as possible and burning entire villages to the ground, even [[HeroKiller killing Link himself]] in the process while mocking the hero's courage. After facing the Goddess Hylia in a final battle and being defeated, Demise spitefully vows to return as he is [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[MaouTheDemonKing [[spoiler:[[MaouTheDemonKing Demon King Demise]] rises from [[BeneathTheEarth beneath the Surface]] to TakeOverTheWorld. Seeking the Triforce, Demise leads his army of monsters across the land, slaughtering as many humans as possible and burning entire villages to the ground, even [[HeroKiller killing Link himself]] in the process while mocking the hero's courage. After facing the Goddess Hylia in a final battle and being defeated, Demise spitefully vows to return as he is [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]]. ]]
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*CompleteMonster: [[MaouTheDemonKing Demon King Demise]] rises from [[BeneathTheEarth beneath the Surface]] to TakeOverTheWorld. Seeking the Triforce, Demise leads his army of monsters across the land, slaughtering as many humans as possible and burning entire villages to the ground, even [[HeroKiller killing Link himself]] in the process while mocking the hero's courage. After facing the Goddess Hylia in a final battle and being defeated, Demise spitefully vows to return as he is [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]].

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* AwesomeEgo: Groose, thanks to his bragging being completely hilarious and being able to back it up later in the game.

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** Ghirahim is an absolute [[{{Narcissist}} narcissist]] who goes on and on about how beautiful and powerful he is… and he more than proves it with his {{Bishonen}} looks and [[AwesomeBosses/TheLegendOfZelda challenging boss battles]].
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Groose, thanks to his bragging being completely hilarious and being able to [[TookALevelInBadass back it up up]] later in the game.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Certain aspects of the game get this criticism even from fans who think it [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks changed too much]] in other aspects.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Certain In general, there is a big debate on whether the game did enough to stand out on its own or ultimately fell into the conventions of previous ''Zelda'' games. However, certain aspects of the game get this criticism even from fans who think it [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks changed too much]] in other aspects.
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* JerkassWoobie:
** [[TheRival Groose]] may be an arrogant bully, but it's clear that he has some serious self-esteem issues, and it's hard not to feel bad for him [[spoiler:when he buckles under the pressure of witnessing the Imprisoned's breakout]].
** Cawlin is even more of a {{Jerkass}} than Groose, but the fact that [[MortonsFork both routes of his side quest end with him being utterly miserable]] (potentially for the rest of his life in one of them) can seem [[KarmicOverkill a bit over-the-top]] for such a minor bully.


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** Zelda herself is separated from her friends and family, forced to go on the run from one location to the next in a world she doesn't recognize with a complete stranger, and seals herself away for 1,000 years, all to fulfill a destiny that she never chose nor wanted in the first place. [[YankTheDogsChain Immediately]] after being reunited with Link and Groose, she gets kidnapped and sacrificed to an EldritchAbomination. Thankfully, she survives the ordeal and [[EarnYourHappyEnding gets to live out her life]] with Link, but you'll just want to give the poor girl a hug by the end.

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* FanficFuel: As well as "fanart fuel" at the same time. With the endgame reveal that Ghirahim is the spirit of Demise's sword, itself the EvilCounterpart of the Master Sword, it's common for fans of the game to imagine what Fi would look like if she had a humanoid form similar to Ghirahim.

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As well as "fanart fuel" at the same time. With the endgame reveal that Ghirahim is the spirit of Demise's sword, itself the EvilCounterpart of the Master Sword, it's common for fans of the game to imagine what Fi would look like if she had a humanoid form similar to Ghirahim. Ghirahim.
** Crossing into the "Wild Saga", another common fanart subject is Fi having a damaged appearance reflecting that of the Master Sword's damaged states in ''Breath of the Wild'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTearsOfTheKingdom Tears of the Kingdom]]''.
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** "Do you have any idea how that make me feel inside? [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry FURIOUS!]] [[MilkingTheGiantCow OUTRAGED!]] [[EvilIsHammy SICK WITH ANGER!]]"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Ghirahim screams this trope, complete with ChewingTheScenery when describing how enraged he is that Link is trying to save Zelda. Due to how popular Ghirahim is, people often spoof it when describing their own anger.

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** "Do you have any idea how that make me feel inside? [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry FURIOUS!]] [[MilkingTheGiantCow OUTRAGED!]] [[EvilIsHammy SICK WITH ANGER!]]"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Ghirahim screams this trope, complete with ChewingTheScenery when describing how enraged he is that Link is trying to save Zelda. Due to how popular Ghirahim is, people often spoof it when describing their own anger.[[/labelnote]]
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* PresumedFlop: This game has been assumed to have not sold well because of its BrokenBase among Zelda fans. However, the game actually sold at a modest 3.41 million units a month after its original release. It did have the misfortunate of being released on [[UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} a console was that soon to be]] [[UsefulNotes/WiiU replaced]], as well as being released too close to the highly anticipated ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' and the out-of-beta-version of ''Videogame/{{Minecraft}}'', but to compare, the original Wii version of ''Skyward Sword'' had outsold the fan-favorite ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''.

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* PresumedFlop: This game has been assumed to have not sold well because of its contentious design choices, as detailed in BrokenBase above, among Zelda fans. However, the game actually sold at a modest 3.41 million units a month after its original release. It did have the misfortunate of being released on [[UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} a console was that soon to be]] [[UsefulNotes/WiiU replaced]], as well as being released too close to the highly anticipated ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' and the out-of-beta-version of ''Videogame/{{Minecraft}}'', but to compare, the original Wii version of ''Skyward Sword'' had outsold the fan-favorite ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''.
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* PresumedFlop: This game has been assumed to have not sold well because of its BrokenBase among Zelda fans. However, the game actually sold at a modest 3.41 million units a month after its original release. It did have the misfortunate of being released on [[UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} a console was that soon to be]] [[UsefulNotes/WiiU replaced]], as well as being released too close to the highly anticipated ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' and the out-of-beta-version of ''Videogame/{{Minecraft}}'', but to compare, it had outsold the SacredCow ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''.

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* PresumedFlop: This game has been assumed to have not sold well because of its BrokenBase among Zelda fans. However, the game actually sold at a modest 3.41 million units a month after its original release. It did have the misfortunate of being released on [[UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} a console was that soon to be]] [[UsefulNotes/WiiU replaced]], as well as being released too close to the highly anticipated ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' and the out-of-beta-version of ''Videogame/{{Minecraft}}'', but to compare, it the original Wii version of ''Skyward Sword'' had outsold the SacredCow fan-favorite ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''.
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** The game's "[[GreaterScopeVillain true villain]]", [[spoiler:Demise]], mainly for his effect on the greater lore of the series. [[spoiler:Some fans love him for recontextualizing series' BigBad Ganondorf in a new way and giving an actual explanation to the ContrivedCoincidence of there always being a Link and Zelda when there is a Ganon. Others despise his addition to the lore for removing Ganondorf's agency as a character and for explaning the reappearances of the characters in a clunky, poorly foreshadowed manner.]]

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** The game's "[[GreaterScopeVillain true villain]]", [[spoiler:Demise]], mainly for his effect on the greater lore of the series.series thanks to the [[LostInTranslation English translation]]. [[spoiler:Some fans love him for recontextualizing series' BigBad Ganondorf in a new way and giving an actual explanation to the ContrivedCoincidence of there always being a Link and Zelda when there is a Ganon. Others despise his addition to the lore for removing Ganondorf's agency as a character and for explaning the reappearances of the characters in a clunky, poorly foreshadowed manner.]]



* FanDislikedExplanation: A minority of fans have remained averse to the ramifications this game’s plot introduces into the series lore, such as Hylia’s sudden emergence and upstaging of the three Golden Goddesses in significance. A particular bone of contention is how [[spoiler:Ganondorf has been retconned into being the spawn of Demise’s hateful curse,]] which players feel robs him of his agency after he was given a fleshed-out backstory and motives in previous games. Other fans have used these revelations as FanficFuel, especially as both influenced the plot of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]''.

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* FanDislikedExplanation: A minority of fans have remained averse to the ramifications this game’s plot introduces into the series lore, such as Hylia’s sudden emergence and upstaging of the three Golden Goddesses in significance. A particular bone of contention is how [[spoiler:Ganondorf has been retconned into being [[spoiler:in the English version Ganondorf is implied to be the spawn of Demise’s hateful curse,]] which players feel robs him of his agency after he was given a fleshed-out backstory and motives in previous games. Other fans have used these revelations as FanficFuel, especially as both influenced the plot of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]''.
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** [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils Demon Lord Ghirahim]] is the sadistic, self-proclaimed ruler of the Surface, who [[TheHeavy seeks to free]] the Demon King and wipe out humanity. On his quest to capture Zelda, Ghirahim unleashes monsters across the Surface to further his goals and repeatedly encounters Link, attempting to torture him to death each time for his own amusement. After successfully kidnapping Zelda, Ghirahim agonizingly feeds her soul to the Imprisoned, reveals his true nature as [[LivingWeapon the spirit of Demise's sword]], and [[WeHaveReserves summons an army of monsters to buy time]], saying they can die by Link's blade or [[BadBoss his own]]. Upon Demise's release, Ghirahim [[DieLaughing gleefully gives up his life to return to his sword form]], content with the knowledge that Link and the rest of the world are doomed to his master's destructive ambitions.

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** [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils Demon Lord Ghirahim]] is the sadistic, self-proclaimed ruler of the Surface, who [[TheHeavy seeks to free]] the Demon King and wipe out humanity. On his quest to capture Zelda, Ghirahim unleashes monsters across the Surface to further his goals and repeatedly encounters Link, attempting to torture him to death each time for his own amusement. After [[spoiler:After successfully kidnapping Zelda, Ghirahim agonizingly feeds her soul to the Imprisoned, reveals his true nature as [[LivingWeapon the spirit of Demise's sword]], and [[WeHaveReserves summons an army of monsters to buy time]], saying they can die by Link's blade or [[BadBoss his own]]. Upon Demise's release, Ghirahim [[DieLaughing gleefully gives up his life to return to his sword form]], content with the knowledge that Link and the rest of the world are doomed to his master's destructive ambitions.]]
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* EvilIsSexy: Ghirahim and [[spoiler:his master Demise]]. Their skimpy outfits really drive the point home.

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** [[spoiler:[[MaouTheDemonKing Demon King Demise]] himself, aka [[SealedEvilInACan The Imprisoned]], is the progenitor of almost all evil in the franchise. The king of monsters, Demise attempted to steal the Triforce for himself while leaving death and destruction in his wake, ultimately resulting in him being sealed away by the goddess Hylia. Demise schemes to return to power by devouring the soul of Hylia's reincarnation, Zelda, guiding the actions of his LivingWeapon Ghirahim before painfully twisting the willing Ghirahim back into a sword the second the latter's freed Demise from his seal. Demise attempts to annihilate the world and all who would oppose him, only entertaining Link's bravery out of amusement while promising him his friends and family will follow him in death. When Demise finds himself bested by Link, Demise [[DyingCurse spitefully curses]] "those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero" with "[[Characters/TheLegendOfZeldaGanonGanondorf an incarnation of [his] hatred]]...dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time".]]
** [[AxCrazy Demon Lord Ghirahim]] is the sadistic soul of Demise's weapon. [[TheHeavy Seeking to free his master]], Ghirahim kidnaps Zelda, willing to agonizingly feed her soul to unleash Demise. Attempting to awaken multiple monsters to kill Link and eventually desiring to torture Link to death himself, Ghirahim [[WeHaveReserves summons an army of monsters to buy time]], saying [[BadBoss they can die by Link's blade or his own]], even [[DieLaughing gleefully giving his own life]] to awaken Demise and see the entire world ravaged by Demise's monstrosity.

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** [[spoiler:[[MaouTheDemonKing Demon King Demise]] himself, aka [[SealedEvilInACan The Imprisoned]], is the vengeful ruler of monsters and the progenitor of almost all evil in the franchise. The king of monsters, Long ago, Demise attempted to steal the Triforce for himself while leaving death and destruction TakeOverTheWorld, exterminating most of humanity in his wake, ultimately resulting in him the process before finally being sealed away by the goddess Hylia. Demise schemes to return to power Goddess Hylia as [[SealedEvilInACan the Imprisoned]]. Freed by devouring Ghirahim much later after consuming the soul of Zelda, Hylia's reincarnation, Zelda, guiding the actions of Demise [[UngratefulBastard repays]] his LivingWeapon Ghirahim before painfully twisting the willing Ghirahim servant by forcibly converting him back into a sword the second the latter's freed Demise from his seal. Demise attempts to annihilate the world and all who would oppose him, only entertaining sword. Amused by Link's bravery out of amusement while courage, Demise challenges him to a duel, promising him that his friends friends, loved ones, and family any opposition will soon follow him in death. When Demise finds himself bested by Link, Upon defeat, Demise [[DyingCurse spitefully curses]] "those who share the blood of the goddess Link, Zelda, and the spirit rest of the hero" their people with "[[Characters/TheLegendOfZeldaGanonGanondorf an incarnation [[Characters/TheLegendOfZeldaGanonGanondorf a reincarnation of [his] hatred]]...dooming his hatred]], "dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time".]]
** [[AxCrazy [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils Demon Lord Ghirahim]] is the sadistic sadistic, self-proclaimed ruler of the Surface, who [[TheHeavy seeks to free]] the Demon King and wipe out humanity. On his quest to capture Zelda, Ghirahim unleashes monsters across the Surface to further his goals and repeatedly encounters Link, attempting to torture him to death each time for his own amusement. After successfully kidnapping Zelda, Ghirahim agonizingly feeds her soul to the Imprisoned, reveals his true nature as [[LivingWeapon the spirit of Demise's weapon. [[TheHeavy Seeking to free his master]], Ghirahim kidnaps Zelda, willing to agonizingly feed her soul to unleash Demise. Attempting to awaken multiple monsters to kill Link sword]], and eventually desiring to torture Link to death himself, Ghirahim [[WeHaveReserves summons an army of monsters to buy time]], saying [[BadBoss they can die by Link's blade or [[BadBoss his own]], even own]]. Upon Demise's release, Ghirahim [[DieLaughing gleefully giving gives up his own life]] life to awaken Demise return to his sword form]], content with the knowledge that Link and see the entire rest of the world ravaged by Demise's monstrosity.are doomed to his master's destructive ambitions.

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Per this ATT, it's best to keep installment-specific YMMV tropes/examples on their respective page, rather than move them to one regarding the entire franchise.


* MemeticMutation: [[Memes/TheLegendOfZelda It has its own page.]]

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** "Do you have any idea how that make me feel inside? [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry FURIOUS!]] [[MilkingTheGiantCow OUTRAGED!]] [[EvilIsHammy SICK WITH ANGER!]]"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Ghirahim screams this trope, complete with ChewingTheScenery when describing how enraged he is that Link is trying to save Zelda. Due to how popular Ghirahim is, people often spoof it when describing their own anger.
** In the same vein of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'', we have: *Something* Score: 7.5 [[labelnote:Explanation]]The score [=GameSpot=] gave. Not by the same guy, though.[[/labelnote]]
** Have you been getting your Gratitude Crystals from the thankful women? [[labelnote:Explanation]]Gratitude Crystals are strange little PlotCoupons given to you by completing quests. The "thankful women" part is probably just [[DoubleEntendre the product of someone's dirty mind]].[[/labelnote]]
** Wanna play the "How loud can you scream" game? [[labelnote:Explanation]]A friendly monster that kidnapped (but not really) a child likes playing this game. Alone. With a child.
It doesn't take a genius [[MistakenForPedophile to see how people]] (in-universe) could get the wrong idea.[[/labelnote]]
** There is a __% chance... [[labelnote:Explanation]][[IfMyCalculationsAreCorrect Fi likes statistics.]] A lot.[[/labelnote]]
** Think about what you can do with a stranded girl and mushrooms. [[labelnote:Explanation]]A girl gets trapped on an island because her Loftwing was injured. You need to give it medicine, which is mushrooms. Again, dirty-minded players had a field day with this.[[/labelnote]]
** The Bokoblin's[=/=]Moblin's undergarments. [[labelnote:Explanation]]They're apparently so obsessed with their cheetah print underpants that according to Fi, they can literally COME BACK FROM THE DEAD DUE TO THEIR ATTACHMENT TO THEM.[[/labelnote]]
** The Legend of Groose: The Groosenator of Grooseland [[labelnote:Explanation]]Throughout the game, Groose likes to name things after himself due to his AwesomeEgo. Due to how popular he is, fans are more than willing to roll along with it.[[/labelnote]]
** [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Squidward]] Sword [[labelnote:Explanation]]A series of photoshops replacing various things with Squidward and other characters from ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''.[[/labelnote]]
** Zelda likes to push Link off of cliffs. [[labelnote:Explanation]]In-game, she pushes Link off of a cliff. Twice. Jokes are often made that this is Zelda's way of either showing affection toward, or friend-zoning, Link, among other things.[[/labelnote]]
** Groose's theme goes with everything. [[labelnote:Explanation]]Similar to [[Franchise/StreetFighter Guile]]'s theme, Groose's theme
has its own page.]]been used for a variety of things, usually when it has someone failing to accomplish something in a hilarious way.[[/labelnote]]
*** Before the game came out, fan speculation on the then-unnamed Fi ran amok, culminating in her being called 'Steve'.
** "WE HATE YOU GROOSE!" "Groose, you're awesome!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]Many players hated Groose at the start of the game for how he bullied Link and got in the way of one of the most popular ships in video game history. However, as Groose was given a healthy amount of CharacterDevelopment and more than one chance to display that he genuinely cared for Zelda, he grew on fans. By the time he stopped pining for her and started supporting Link as a good friend, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap he became one of the most popular characters in the game]].[[/labelnote]]
** The part of the trailer where Link jumps off of the cliff has been turned into countless [=GIFs=], typically with captions claiming that he is committing suicide over the game. Or [[Creator/{{Tobuscus}} swan diving into the logo]].
** Parodies and snowclones of Groose intercepting Link in mid-skydive have begun popping up already, many of them involving someone's face superimposed over Groose's, such as [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Saxton]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=7j5opukqXHU Hale]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZGm1_b8oY0 Trollface]]. Heck, Link's shocked face itself has become quite exploitable.
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** An article writer from Kotaku expresses his distaste for the game with one of the reasons being that he doesn't like the Wii. Many question how this is even professional, considering that there is no other way to play this game at the time.

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** An article writer from Kotaku expresses his distaste for the game with one of the reasons being that he doesn't like the Wii. Many question how this is even professional, considering that there is was no other way to play this game at the time.
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The prequel manga is noncanon and flatly contradicts the game


** Due being the first game in the ''Zelda'' chronology, many people incorrectly refers to this game's Link as the "first" Link (something even the ''game itself'' denies). Said title belongs to the Link from the prequel manga, with this Link being the first of his many successors.
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* TheScrappy: [[DesignatedHero Faron the Water Dragon]] is widely disliked, even by fans of the game. Many take issue with her [[UngratefulBitch ungrateful]] attitude towards Link after he saves her, even denying him her piece the Song of the Hero by claiming that he hasn't proven himself, despite the fact that he already saved her and is holding the fully-powered Master Sword. On top of that, many find her decision to flood Faron Woods to get rid of the monsters to be a massive example of JerkassGods, considering she [[InferredHolocaust endangered the Kikwi and all the innocent creatures within while doing so]].
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** Hylia the goddess (as opposed to [[spoiler:Zelda the human incarnation]]): all-seeing benevolent goddess who defeated the demons and saved Hyrule? Or ManipulativeBitch who laid her plans without any thought to the well-being of [[spoiler:her reincarnation]] or her chosen hero?

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** Hylia the goddess (as opposed to [[spoiler:Zelda the human incarnation]]): Hylia: all-seeing benevolent goddess who defeated the demons and saved Hyrule? Or ManipulativeBitch who laid her plans without any thought to the well-being of [[spoiler:her reincarnation]] or her chosen hero?

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** While Link's ItemGet action is fine most of the time, it can look pretty silly in an [[MoodWhiplash otherwise serious cutscene.]] Which Zelda [[LampshadeHanging will call you out on]] during the the Wing Ceremony. The ItemGet pose is pretty bad in the scene where you get [[spoiler:the Goddess Harp]] too.



** Link's expression whenever he hears pieces of [[spoiler:the Song of the Hero.]] The fact that he closes his eyes and becomes engrossed just seems melodramatic given the context, and can even make it look as though he's peeing.

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** %%** Link's expression whenever he hears pieces of [[spoiler:the Song of the Hero.]] The fact that he closes his eyes and becomes engrossed just seems melodramatic given the context, and can even make it look as though he's peeing. %%needs more context%%



** At one point of the game, Link plays the Harp in the middle of Skyloft, with Fi singing, before he inserts his sword in a lit flower circle. During this entire interactive cutscene, you can watch how the side character Parrow walks in an endless circle in the background, completely oblivious to what you are doing.
** [[spoiler: Hylia couldn’t defeat Demise without a mortal (Link) collecting the [[CosmicKeystone Triforce]]… [[ColonyDrop to drop a piece of Skyloft onto the Imprisoned]]. Why Hylia needed the Triforce to defeat the Demon King when he could be defeated by the equivalent of squishing him with a rock is never explained.]]
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* IKnewIt:
** Years ago, on some obscure Zelda fansite, there was a timeline theory which spoke of the origins of the Master Sword and claimed it was once a woman who ''became'' the sword. At the time it seemed a little weird, but no longer thanks to Fi's role as a feminine spirit residing within the Sword.
** The Sheikah woman who helps Zelda is revealed to be named Impa. Also, [[spoiler:Impa being the old lady confirmed a low-profile fan theory that the Sheikah have a roughly [[TimeAbyss one-thousand-year lifespan]]]].
** Though she's not one of the main trio, there is indeed a fourth major goddess as was long speculated.
** Many fans had long speculated that {{Reincarnation}} was the reason why Link, Zelda and Ganon kept appearing over and over in different eras. Although there were a few subtle hints in previous games too, ''Skyward Sword'' officially established it as a lore point, albeit it still keeps it as a background detail to explain the reappearance of the main trio, rather than make it a central theme for the mythos.
** Practically nobody was surprised by the announcement of an HD port for the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch, considering it’s the only 3D Zelda prior to have not been remastered and the HD rerelease having been an incredibly popular rumor amongst fans prior to its announcement.
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** It's commonly believed that Demon King Demise is voiced by Creator/TakashiNagasako, the voice of Ganondorf in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]]'', with various fan wiki sites, including this site, stating it as fact. But this cannot be the case as Creator/TakashiNagasako, a prominent voice actor best known for voicing Ganondorf and Donkey Kong, was never credited in the voice section, even though Demise was not reusing any sound clips from older ''Zelda'' games. [[https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ゼルダの伝説_スカイウォードソード Sources]] [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=31698 in Japan]] lists Creator/TsuguoMogami as the voice of Demise, and this makes sense since the credits list him just behind Kenji Takahashi, the voice of Groose, but after Rei Shimoda, the voice of Impa.

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** It's commonly believed that Demon King Demise is voiced by Creator/TakashiNagasako, the voice of Ganondorf in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]]'', with various fan wiki sites, including this site, stating it as fact. But this cannot be the case as Creator/TakashiNagasako, a prominent voice actor best known for voicing Ganondorf and Donkey Kong, was never credited in the voice section, even though Demise was not reusing any sound clips from older ''Zelda'' games. [[https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ゼルダの伝説_スカイウォードソード Sources]] [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=31698 in Japan]] lists list Creator/TsuguoMogami as the voice of Demise, and this makes sense since the credits list him just behind Kenji Takahashi, the voice of Groose, but after Rei Shimoda, the voice of Impa.
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Takeshi Nagasako, a big prominent voice actor, being uncredited for the voice of the big villain is ludicrous. Meanwhile, Japan sources listed Tsuguo Mogami as the voice of Demise, and he is in the credits. Adding sources to back the claim.

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** It's commonly believed that Demon King Demise is voiced by Creator/TakashiNagasako, the voice of Ganondorf in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]]'', with various fan wiki sites, including this site, stating it as fact. But this cannot be the case as Creator/TakashiNagasako, a prominent voice actor best known for voicing Ganondorf and Donkey Kong, was never credited in the voice section, even though Demise was not reusing any sound clips from older ''Zelda'' games. [[https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ゼルダの伝説_スカイウォードソード Sources]] [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=31698 in Japan]] lists Creator/TsuguoMogami as the voice of Demise, and this makes sense since the credits list him just behind Kenji Takahashi, the voice of Groose, but after Rei Shimoda, the voice of Impa.
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** [[WebVideo/{{Sequelitis}} Egoraptor]] was expecting this trope when he complained about ''Skyward Sword'' in a 2-minute AuthorFilibuster about how much he ''loathes'' it. So far, not a lot of people seem too bothered, beyond a few who mention he's overreacting over a fairly inoffensive game. It wasn't really until he started making extremely controversial statements about the game on ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'', like saying it was worse than ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgeHog2006 Sonic 06'' or that people only pretend to like the game because it has ''Zelda'' in the name, that he really began to experience this.

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** [[WebVideo/{{Sequelitis}} Egoraptor]] was expecting this trope when he complained about ''Skyward Sword'' in a 2-minute AuthorFilibuster about how much he ''loathes'' it. So far, not a lot of people seem too bothered, beyond a few who mention he's overreacting over a fairly inoffensive game. It wasn't really until he started making extremely controversial statements about the game on ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'', like saying it was worse than ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgeHog2006 ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgeHog2006 Sonic 06'' '06]]'' or that people only pretend to like the game because it has ''Zelda'' in the name, that he really began to experience this.
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** [[WebVideo/{{Sequelitis}} Egoraptor]] was expecting this trope when he complained about ''Skyward Sword'' in a 2-minute AuthorFilibuster about how much he ''loathes'' it. So far, not a lot of people seem too bothered, beyond a few who mention he's overreacting over a fairly inoffensive game.

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** [[WebVideo/{{Sequelitis}} Egoraptor]] was expecting this trope when he complained about ''Skyward Sword'' in a 2-minute AuthorFilibuster about how much he ''loathes'' it. So far, not a lot of people seem too bothered, beyond a few who mention he's overreacting over a fairly inoffensive game. It wasn't really until he started making extremely controversial statements about the game on ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'', like saying it was worse than ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgeHog2006 Sonic 06'' or that people only pretend to like the game because it has ''Zelda'' in the name, that he really began to experience this.
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%%* {{Adorkable}}:
%%** Link early on during the game, notably when he's with Zelda. Some of his responses to Zelda's questions help add to this.
%%** Professor Owlan, when Link gives him a Kikwi.
* AlasPoorScrappy: Fi, while not universally hated, is still something of a BaseBreakingCharacter due to her [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper frequently interrupting gameplay]] with often [[CaptainObvious obvious]] advice. Even if you hate her, her going to sleep inside the Master Sword for centuries at the end of the game, which she prefaces by admitting feelings of happiness that her journey with Link inspired that she was incapable of admitting until the end due to her programming, is still a tear-jerker. Especially in the remake, which dials down her annoying behaviors.

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%%* * {{Adorkable}}:
%%** ** Link early on during the game, game is established as a clumsy and cute knight-in-training, notably when he's with Zelda. Some of his available responses to Zelda's questions help add to this.
%%** ** Professor Owlan, Owlan acts endearingly geeky when Link gives him a Kikwi.
* AlasPoorScrappy: Fi, while not universally hated, is still something of a BaseBreakingCharacter due to her [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper frequently interrupting gameplay]] with often [[CaptainObvious obvious]] advice. Even if you hate her, her going to sleep inside the Master Sword for centuries at the end of the game, which she prefaces by admitting feelings of happiness that her journey with Link inspired that she was incapable of admitting until the end due to her programming, is still a tear-jerker. Especially in the remake, which dials down her annoying behaviors.behaviors, and in [[spoiler:''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'', where she is left at the bottom of the ocean for eternity]].



** The pirate Scervo is set up to be the ArcVillain of the Lanayru Sand Sea, as he's the one who hijacked the Sandship from Skipper so many years ago and has kept its cloaking technology active to keep from being found since then. But he serves only as the miniboss of the dungeon itself, is fought quite early on at that, and does himself a disservice by confronting Link on the ship's prow, [[BossArenaIdiocy where he can easily be knocked off to his death.]] The remainder of the dungeon has you performing a series of odd jobs to fully take back control, with the actual boss turning out to be a chance encounter with a random sea monster who has had no bearing on the narrative thus far.

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** The pirate Scervo is set up to be the ArcVillain of the Lanayru Sand Sea, as he's the one who hijacked the Sandship from Skipper so many years ago and has kept its cloaking technology active to keep from being found since then. But he serves only as the miniboss of the dungeon itself, is fought quite early on at that, and does himself a disservice by confronting Link on the ship's prow, [[BossArenaIdiocy where he can easily be knocked off to his death.]] The remainder of the dungeon has you performing a series of odd jobs to fully take back control, with the actual boss turning out to be a chance encounter with a random sea monster who has had no bearing on the narrative thus far.Lanyaru arc narrative.



* AwesomeEgo: Groose, thanks to his bragging being completely hilarious and at times being able to back it up with a few badass moments.

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* AwesomeEgo: Groose, thanks to his bragging being completely hilarious and at times being able to back it up with a few badass moments.later in the game.



** Anything with a Timeshift Stone, especially the Sandship.

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** Anything with a Timeshift Stone, especially the Sandship.Sandship, where you can seamlessly move different areas back and forth through time.



** The Guardians encountered in the Silent Realm, which can OneHitKill Link. And even if you're doing your best to avoid them, their lookouts can ruin your day. They're all placed in spots and routes designed to make your Tear collecting as difficult and time-consuming as possible. And as we all know, [[StalkedByTheBell time is a very precious thing in a Silent Realm.]]

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** The Guardians encountered in the Silent Realm, which can OneHitKill Link. Worse, the Sky Guardians can fly in the air to avoid obstacles. And even if you're doing your best to avoid them, their lookouts can ruin your day. They're all placed in spots and routes designed to make your Tear collecting as difficult and time-consuming as possible. And as we all know, [[StalkedByTheBell time is a very precious thing in a Silent Realm.]]]]



** Skulltulas [[TookALevelInBadass seem to have gotten their act together]].

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** Skulltulas [[TookALevelInBadass seem to have gotten their act together]].together]], and put more effort into guarding their weak points.



** Koloktos, who is regarded as one of the best bosses in the series.

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** Koloktos, who is regarded as one of the best bosses in the series.series, thanks to being a six-armed robotic swordsman that requires [[UseTheirOwnWeaponAgainstThem an unorthodox strategy]] to take down.
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While Tsuguo Mogami is credited as a "voice", Takashi Nagasako is uncredited.


** It's commonly believed that Demon King Demise is voiced by Creator/TakashiNagasako, the voice of Ganondorf in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]]'', with various fan wiki sites, including this site, stating it as fact. But [[https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Skyward_Sword/Credits based on the game's credits]], this cannot be the case as Takashi Nagasako was never credited in the voice section, even though Demise was not reusing any sound clips from older ''Zelda'' games. The most likely voice behind Demise is Tsuguo Mogami, who is listed on the credits just behind Kenji Takahashi, the voice of Groose, but after Rei Shimoda, the voice of Impa.

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