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* {{Squick}}: Shiho's teasing Shi Woon in a way that's clearly meant to imply that they've slept together early on in the comic. Keep in mind, Shiho is a grown woman and Shi Woon is a minor. The scene was clearly meant to be comedic, especially since they didn't actually do anything even remotely romantic, but some western readers were still not fond of the implications.
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* FoeYay: There definitely seems to be something between Ji-Woo and Ji-Gun that goes far deeper than TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou.
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** Shi-Woon. Is he ''really'' ObliviousToLove or is he merely ObfuscatingStupidity regarding his UnwantedHarem because he realizes the political consequences of hooking up with any of them. There is subtle evidence for the latter. He takes Sosul on a date to the beach and they make sand castles because that's the most her body can handle, and he tells her when she objects. He's called Jin-nie cute, and teased her when he caught her preening in a mirror. Lastly, when he's visiting Sera in the hospital, he makes perfectly clear that he heard and is responding to her AnguishedDeclarationOfLove, to her chagrin.
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** Shi-Woon. Is he ''really'' ObliviousToLove or is he merely ObfuscatingStupidity regarding his UnwantedHarem because he realizes the political consequences of hooking up with any of them. them? There is subtle evidence for the latter. He takes Sosul on a date to the beach and they make sand castles because that's the most her body can handle, and he tells her when she objects. He's called Jin-nie cute, and teased her when he caught her preening in a mirror. Lastly, when he's visiting Sera in the hospital, he makes perfectly clear that he heard and is responding to her AnguishedDeclarationOfLove, to her chagrin.
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Incredibly poor English on page; fixed for the most part. I can't promise the phrasing is always perfect, that's sometimes hard to fix. I mostly just wanted to make sure it looks somewhat correct. Perhaps the style could be improved, I don't know, it's a start I guess.
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** Jinie, Sera, or Seosul for those ship one of them with Shi-Woon. Ironically despite being the first girl, no fan ships him with Sae-Hee.
** It gets a little messy when one considers the details. Since Shi-Woon is the Head of the Sun Woo Clan, he may be arranged to marry within the clan which might be Seosul or Jinie because the previous history of heads not marrying in the clan thus nearly destroying the clan from within. It might be a priority for him to do so especially since this is a personal BerserkButton for Kwon who abandoned his own daughter and granddaughter because his daughter was thought to marry an outsider and bore a child with a foreigner.[[spoiler: The truth is that she lied and took the blame for the Head marrying outside the clan because she knew that it would piss off her dad so much that he would try to kill the Head.]] Sera is interested, but she feels like she is a HopelessSuitor because she is not in the Sun Woo Clan. However, it should be noted that Shi-Woon is a substitute head and if Seosul returns to her position, Shi-Woon has no position. Yes, this is one instance where shipping gets political.
** It gets a little messy when one considers the details. Since Shi-Woon is the Head of the Sun Woo Clan, he may be arranged to marry within the clan which might be Seosul or Jinie because the previous history of heads not marrying in the clan thus nearly destroying the clan from within. It might be a priority for him to do so especially since this is a personal BerserkButton for Kwon who abandoned his own daughter and granddaughter because his daughter was thought to marry an outsider and bore a child with a foreigner.[[spoiler: The truth is that she lied and took the blame for the Head marrying outside the clan because she knew that it would piss off her dad so much that he would try to kill the Head.]] Sera is interested, but she feels like she is a HopelessSuitor because she is not in the Sun Woo Clan. However, it should be noted that Shi-Woon is a substitute head and if Seosul returns to her position, Shi-Woon has no position. Yes, this is one instance where shipping gets political.
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** Jinie, Sera, or Seosul for those ship one of them with Shi-Woon. Ironically despite being the first girl, pretty much no fan ships him with Sae-Hee.
** It gets a little messy when one considers the details. Since Shi-Woon is the Head of the Sun Woo Clan, he may be arranged to marry within theclan clan, which might be either Seosul or Jinie because due to the previous history of heads not marrying in the clan clan, thus nearly destroying the clan from within. It might be a priority for him to do so especially since this is a personal BerserkButton for Kwon who abandoned his own daughter and granddaughter granddaughter, because his daughter was thought to marry an outsider and bore a child with a foreigner.[[spoiler: The truth is that she lied and took the blame for the Head marrying outside the clan because she knew that it would piss off her dad so much that he would try to kill the Head.]] Sera is interested, but she feels like she is a HopelessSuitor because she is not in the Sun Woo Clan. However, it should be noted that Shi-Woon is a substitute head and if Seosul returns to her position, Shi-Woon has no position.position anymore. Yes, this is one instance where shipping gets political.
** It gets a little messy when one considers the details. Since Shi-Woon is the Head of the Sun Woo Clan, he may be arranged to marry within the
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** [[spoiler:In-universe. Black Forest Force shutdown the electrical energy for all of Seoul.]] Many characters wondered how powerful the Black Forest to do such a feat. Out-universe, many people would definitely harmed from just short amount of time. We are treated short scene of chaotic traffic but it's not shown how more chaotic it is in the hospitals. Then, we have to remember how close Seoul from UsefulNotes/NorthKorea's border and how many artillery the pointed at Seoul, the in-universe characters have to pray North Korea wouldn't attack them seeing another good opportunity. (It is noted however, all military bases will probably has [[spoiler:generator.]])
** Another related to North Korea, would they waste another opportunity to invade South if South Korean gov't and Murim are busy fighting the Black Forest Force?
* FridgeLogic: If the martial artists could that powerful, it raises questions such as how could China and Korea could be conquered by foreign powers Or how could Chinese martial artists prosecuted in Cultural Revolution. It's better to remember MST3KMantra while reading both this manhwa and Veritas.
* GrowingTheBeard: The manga starts off as okay. But as Shi-Woon grows more badass, the more the story quality grows.
** Another related to North Korea, would they waste another opportunity to invade South if South Korean gov't and Murim are busy fighting the Black Forest Force?
* FridgeLogic: If the martial artists could that powerful, it raises questions such as how could China and Korea could be conquered by foreign powers Or how could Chinese martial artists prosecuted in Cultural Revolution. It's better to remember MST3KMantra while reading both this manhwa and Veritas.
* GrowingTheBeard: The manga starts off as okay. But as Shi-Woon grows more badass, the more the story quality grows.
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** [[spoiler:In-universe. The Black Forest Force shutdown shuts down the electrical energy for all of Seoul.]] Many characters wondered how powerful the Black Forest is to do such a feat. Out-universe, Out-of-universe, many people would definitely be harmed from in just a short amount of time. We are treated with a short scene of chaotic traffic traffic, but it's not shown how much more chaotic it is in the hospitals. Then, we have to remember how close Seoul from is to UsefulNotes/NorthKorea's border and how many artillery the is pointed at Seoul, the in-universe characters have to pray North Korea wouldn't attack them when seeing another good opportunity. (It is noted however, all military bases will probably has have a [[spoiler:generator.]])
** Another one related to NorthKorea, would Korea. Would they waste another opportunity to invade the South if the South Korean gov't government and Murim are busy fighting the Black Forest Force?
* FridgeLogic: If the martial artistscould are really that powerful, it raises questions such as how could China and Korea could be conquered by foreign powers powers. Or how could Chinese martial artists could be prosecuted in the Cultural Revolution. It's better to remember the MST3KMantra while reading both this manhwa and Veritas.
* GrowingTheBeard: Themanga manhwa starts off as okay. But as Shi-Woon grows more badass, the more the story quality grows.
** Another one related to North
* FridgeLogic: If the martial artists
* GrowingTheBeard: The
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** He finally fully grew it by 110. As he finally realized he is not a PuppetKing and the Sun Woo are truly there for him, he is giving a CurbStompBattle to anyone who bad mouths his title or the clan.
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** He It finally fully grew it by 110. As he Shi-Woon finally realized he is not a PuppetKing and the Sun Woo are truly there for him, he is giving a CurbStompBattle to anyone who bad mouths his title or the clan.
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** Sera as well, but she is a good guy.
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** Sera as well, but although she is a good guy.
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** [[spoiler:Chun Woo]] appearances in New Waves see him either providing or dispensing minions to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath destroy]] various individuals in such ways leading to the belief that the has already been crossed.
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** [[spoiler:Chun Woo]] Woo]]'s appearances in New Waves see him either providing or dispensing minions to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath destroy]] various individuals in such ways leading to the belief that the it has already been crossed.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Jung Lae Won is finally starting to head this way from Chapte 165 and beyond [[spoiler: after telling his superiors to [[DefiantToTheEnd ''piss off'']] upon learning that they intend to sacrifice the people of Seoul for the better of mankind.]] The one thing that still holds him back in the fans eyes is him [[spoiler: shooting Shi-ho]] way back in the first series.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Jung Lae Won is finally starting to head this way from Chapte Chapter 165 and beyond [[spoiler: after telling his superiors to [[DefiantToTheEnd ''piss off'']] upon learning that they intend to sacrifice the people of Seoul for the better of mankind.]] The one thing that still holds him back in the fans fan's eyes is him [[spoiler: shooting Shi-ho]] way back in the first series.
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* TheScrappy: Chang-Ho is ''very'' unpopular mostly because he's a completely unrepentent asshole. [[spoiler: When the S.U.C's PsychoSerum nearly killed him, his haters were very pleased.]]
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* TheScrappy: Chang-Ho is ''very'' unpopular mostly because he's a completely unrepentent unrepentant asshole. [[spoiler: When the S.U.C's PsychoSerum nearly killed him, his haters were very pleased.]]
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** Becomes an IronWoobie
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** Becomes an IronWoobieIronWoobie as the series goes on.
