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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Retool}} soft-reboot and change of tone]] of the third and fourth games versus the more grounded and darker storyline from the second is the biggest sticking point of the fandom. [[FromBadToWorse And then came]] [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2022 the 2022 reboot...]] The latter of which is ''so'' divisive that its YMMV page (and even the Trivia page, for that matter) [[Administrivia/LockedPages have been locked]] indefinitely on This Very Wiki.

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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Retool}} soft-reboot and change of tone]] of the third and fourth games versus the more grounded and darker storyline from the second is the biggest sticking point of the fandom. [[FromBadToWorse And then came]] [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2022 the 2022 reboot...]] The latter of which is ''so'' divisive that its YMMV page (and even the Trivia page, for that matter) [[Administrivia/LockedPages have been where locked]] indefinitely on This Very Wiki. Wiki for nearly a year after it's release.
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* SequelDisplacement: Downplayed. ''Videogame/SaintsRow1'' was considered a SoOkayItsAverage ''Grand Theft Auto''-clone and since it was exclusive to the UsefulNotes/Xbox360, a large chunk of the fanbase has not played it. ''Videogame/SaintsRow2'', the obvious second game, was a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel and multiplatform, which is where the series broke out on its own.

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* SequelDisplacement: Downplayed. ''Videogame/SaintsRow1'' was considered a SoOkayItsAverage ''Grand Theft Auto''-clone and since it was exclusive to the UsefulNotes/Xbox360, Platform/Xbox360, a large chunk of the fanbase has not played it. ''Videogame/SaintsRow2'', the obvious second game, was a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel and multiplatform, which is where the series broke out on its own.
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* EvilIsSexy : And ''how''. Not only is it possible (especially in the [[VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird Third]] and [[VideoGame/SaintsRowIV fourth games]]) to make a drop-dead gorgeous Boss of any gender, you also have access to a ''really'' wide variety of... Flattering outfits to choose from.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Retool}} soft-reboot and change of tone]] of the third and fourth games versus the more grounded and darker storyline from the second is the biggest sticking point of the fandom. [[FromBadToWorse And then came]] [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2022 the 2022 reboot...]] The latter of which is ''so'' divisive that its YMMV page (and even the Trivia page, for that matter) [[Administrivia/LockedPages have been locked]] for an undetermined amount of time on This Very Wiki.

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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Retool}} soft-reboot and change of tone]] of the third and fourth games versus the more grounded and darker storyline from the second is the biggest sticking point of the fandom. [[FromBadToWorse And then came]] [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2022 the 2022 reboot...]] The latter of which is ''so'' divisive that its YMMV page (and even the Trivia page, for that matter) [[Administrivia/LockedPages have been locked]] for an undetermined amount of time indefinitely on This Very Wiki.



** ''VideoGame/SaintsRow1'' and ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'' had the 44 Shepherd, a .44 Magnum revolver that took the form of a Colt Anaconda. In ''[[VideoGame/ModernWarfare Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]'', Lt. General ''Shepherd'' would use the Colt Anaconda (generically referred to as the .44 Magnum) as his signature weapon. In other words, Shepherd is using a 44 Shepherd.

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** ''VideoGame/SaintsRow1'' and ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'' had the 44 Shepherd, a .44 Magnum revolver that took the form of a Colt Anaconda. In ''[[VideoGame/ModernWarfare Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]'', ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare2'', Lt. General ''Shepherd'' would use the Colt Anaconda (generically referred to as the .44 Magnum) as his signature weapon. In other words, Shepherd is using a 44 Shepherd.
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** One of the objections to Gat is that the last two games portray him as MemeticBadass eclipsing the PlayerCharacter themself. He is a badass, sure, but whether he's really better than the Boss, or more interesting than them, is questioned.

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** One of the objections to Gat is that the last two games portray him as MemeticBadass eclipsing the PlayerCharacter themself. He is a badass, sure, but whether he's really better than the Boss, or more interesting than them, is questioned. Even the games are divided about this as while Zinyak fears Johnny Gat more, ''TheDevil'' believes the Boss is stronger.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Retool}} soft-reboot and change of tone]] of the third and fourth games versus the more grounded and darker storyline from the second is the biggest sticking point of the fandom. [[FromBadToWorse And then came]] [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2022 the 2022 reboot...]] The latter of which is ''so'' divisive that its YMMV page (and even the Trivia page, for that matter) [[Administrivia/LockedPages have been locked]] for an undetermined amount of time on ThisVeryWiki.

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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Retool}} soft-reboot and change of tone]] of the third and fourth games versus the more grounded and darker storyline from the second is the biggest sticking point of the fandom. [[FromBadToWorse And then came]] [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2022 the 2022 reboot...]] The latter of which is ''so'' divisive that its YMMV page (and even the Trivia page, for that matter) [[Administrivia/LockedPages have been locked]] for an undetermined amount of time on ThisVeryWiki.This Very Wiki.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Retool}} soft-reboot and change of tone]] of the third and fourth games versus the more grounded and darker storyline from the second is the biggest sticking point of the fandom. [[FromBadToWorse And then came]] [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2022 the 2022 reboot...]]

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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Retool}} soft-reboot and change of tone]] of the third and fourth games versus the more grounded and darker storyline from the second is the biggest sticking point of the fandom. [[FromBadToWorse And then came]] [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2022 the 2022 reboot...]]]] The latter of which is ''so'' divisive that its YMMV page (and even the Trivia page, for that matter) [[Administrivia/LockedPages have been locked]] for an undetermined amount of time on ThisVeryWiki.
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** Insurance Fraud activities are significantly less painful as of ''The Third'', with more and faster-moving cars and a larger designated area allowing you to easily seek out heavier traffic (ie highways). ''IV'' made this easier with {{Superspeed}} and hitting the trigger buttons. In some points, you end up being ''flung across the map'' if you get hit by a garbage truck, a bus or a speeding car which can rack enough money while your character is having ThisIsGonnaSuck comments.

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** *** Insurance Fraud activities are significantly less painful as of ''The Third'', with more and faster-moving cars and a larger designated area allowing you to easily seek out heavier traffic (ie highways). ''IV'' made this easier with {{Superspeed}} and hitting the trigger buttons. In some points, you end up being ''flung across the map'' if you get hit by a garbage truck, a bus or a speeding car which can rack enough money while your character is having ThisIsGonnaSuck comments.
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** ''VideoGame/SaintsRow1'' and ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'' had the 44 Shepherd, a .44 Magnum revolver that took the form of a [[CoolGuns/{{Revolvers}} Colt Anaconda]]. In ''[[VideoGame/ModernWarfare Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]'', Lt. General ''Shepherd'' would use the Colt Anaconda (generically referred to as the .44 Magnum) as his signature weapon. In other words, Shepherd is using a 44 Shepherd.

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** ''VideoGame/SaintsRow1'' and ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'' had the 44 Shepherd, a .44 Magnum revolver that took the form of a [[CoolGuns/{{Revolvers}} Colt Anaconda]].Anaconda. In ''[[VideoGame/ModernWarfare Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]'', Lt. General ''Shepherd'' would use the Colt Anaconda (generically referred to as the .44 Magnum) as his signature weapon. In other words, Shepherd is using a 44 Shepherd.

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* CompleteMonster: [[YMMV/SaintsRowGatOutOfHell Satan]] and [[YMMV/AgentsOfMayhem Dr. Babylon]]. See those pages for details.

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* CompleteMonster: [[YMMV/SaintsRowGatOutOfHell Satan]] and Satan]]; [[YMMV/AgentsOfMayhem The Morningstar & Dr. Babylon]]. See those pages for details.
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** Kinzie's abrasive attitude towards the Boss (at one point punching them) is a point of criticism, even though the Boss tolerates it. Others appreciate her barbed DeadpanSnarker personality. Some fans are fine with her being chosen as the female character in ''Gat Out of Hell'', while others feel that Shaundi (who's known both Gat and the Boss longer than Kinzie has and is more experienced in combat) or at least Asha (who is an MI-6 agent and like Shaundi, a better warrior) were a better choice.

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** Kinzie's abrasive attitude towards the Boss (at one point punching them) is a point of criticism, even though the Boss tolerates it. Others appreciate her barbed DeadpanSnarker personality. Some fans are fine with her being chosen as the female playable character in ''Gat Out of Hell'', while others feel that Shaundi (who's known both Gat and the Boss longer than Kinzie has and is more experienced in combat) or at least Asha (who is an MI-6 agent and like Shaundi, a better warrior) were would have been a better choice.

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