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** Luke's rematch with Vader in the Throne Room takes on an more tragic context after ''Revenge of the Sith''. We know now that Anakin was right there in Luke's shoes at the end of his Trilogy: Having a rematch with the Sith Lord who'd cut off his arm (while Palpatine watched), having the disabled villain at his mercy, and then having to choose between saving a Jedi or Palpatine (and all whilst Force Lightning was flying and frying). Just like Luke, Anakin made choices that changed the course of Galactic history – but ''unlike'' Luke, Anakin made the ''wrong'' choices and in so doing doomed the Old Republic and Jedi Order.
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** When Luke defiantly rejects the Emperor once and for all, Palpatine responding by unleashing [[ShockAndAwe Force Lightning]] on him was originally a ''terrifying'' moment. Up to that point, the Emperor had given no indication that he was any kind of physical threat to Luke at all, appearing to be nothing more than a weak old man who was dangerous because he commanded the forces of the Empire (including [[TheHeavy Darth Vader]]) and because of his ability to BreakThemByTalking, so him suddenly shooting crackling lightning which [[AgonyBeam inflicts tortuous pain]] from his fingers was a ''[[{{Pun}} shocking]]'' twist. By the same token, up to this point the Force had only manifested as a guiding power that made Luke a better warrior and pilot, with its only physical manifestation being [[MindOverMatter telekinesis]] (which Vader had admittedly used very effectively during his duel against Luke on Cloud City). Force Lightning was a whole new level of power which displayed to frightening effect how powerful the Emperor and his mastery of the Dark Side truly was; indeed, the novelization described it as a horrific perversion of the Force the likes of which Luke hadn't even imagined might be possible. Unfortunately, the expanded universe made it a trademark of ''every'' Fallen Jedi and Sith lord, to the point where it came to be considered more or less the ''default'' power for them. In the later stages of the Legends continuity, even ''Light Jedi'' (including ''Luke himself'') started using it under limited circumstances! The ability had become so overexposed over the decades that going back and watching the climax of ''Return of the Jedi'' now makes it hard for a new viewer to see why Palpatine shooting lightning at Luke is such a big deal.
** [[HeelFaceTurn Darth Vader's Redemption.]] At the time, the idea of the series most prominent antagonist sacrificing himself for the heroes at the last minute was probably almost as shocking as [[LukeIAmYourFather the last twist related to his character,]] and it served to give the trilogy an especially optimistic ending while rounding out Luke's character arc almost perfectly. Decades later, though, a villain like Vader [[RedemptionRejection not getting redeemed]] is seen as more subversive, and countless similar villain redemption arcs [[Characters/StarWarsKyloRen including Vader's successor in the franchise]] have been accused of being UnintentionallyUnsympathetic [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis,]] and the arcs for promoting [[ICanChangeMyBeloved toxic ideas about family or one's ability to save the one's they love.]] More-fleshed out redemption arcs have also exposed how [[RedemptionEqualsDeath relatively minimal]] Vader's is by comparison and the FridgeLogic of why [[EasyEvangelism saving his son apparently made him pull a complete personality and ideological 180.]]
** When Luke defiantly rejects the Emperor once and for all, Palpatine responding by unleashing [[ShockAndAwe Force Lightning]] on him was originally a ''terrifying'' moment. Up to that point, the Emperor had given no indication that he was any kind of physical threat to Luke at all, appearing to be nothing more than a weak old man who was dangerous because he commanded the forces of the Empire (including [[TheHeavy Darth Vader]]) and because of his ability to BreakThemByTalking, so him suddenly shooting crackling lightning which [[AgonyBeam inflicts tortuous pain]] from his fingers was a ''[[{{Pun}} shocking]]'' twist. By the same token, up to this point the Force had only manifested as a guiding power that made Luke a better warrior and pilot, with its only physical manifestation being [[MindOverMatter telekinesis]] (which Vader had admittedly used very effectively during his duel against Luke on Cloud City). Force Lightning was a whole new level of power which displayed to frightening effect how powerful the Emperor and his mastery of the Dark Side truly was; indeed, the novelization described it as a horrific perversion of the Force the likes of which Luke hadn't even imagined might be possible. Unfortunately, the expanded universe made it a trademark of ''every'' Fallen Jedi and Sith lord, to the point where it came to be considered more or less the ''default'' power for them. In the later stages of the Legends continuity, even ''Light Jedi'' (including ''Luke himself'') started using it under limited circumstances! The ability had become so overexposed over the decades that going back and watching the climax of ''Return of the Jedi'' now makes it hard for a new viewer to see why Palpatine shooting lightning at Luke is such a big deal.
** [[HeelFaceTurn Darth Vader's Redemption.]] At the time, the idea of the series most prominent antagonist sacrificing himself for the heroes at the last minute was probably almost as shocking as [[LukeIAmYourFather the last twist related to his character,]] and it served to give the trilogy an especially optimistic ending while rounding out Luke's character arc almost perfectly. Decades later, though, a villain like Vader [[RedemptionRejection not getting redeemed]] is seen as more subversive, and countless similar villain redemption arcs [[Characters/StarWarsKyloRen including Vader's successor in the franchise]] have been accused of being UnintentionallyUnsympathetic [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis,]] and the arcs for promoting [[ICanChangeMyBeloved toxic ideas about family or one's ability to save the one's they love.]] More-fleshed out redemption arcs have also exposed how [[RedemptionEqualsDeath relatively minimal]] Vader's is by comparison and the FridgeLogic of why [[EasyEvangelism saving his son apparently made him pull a complete personality and ideological 180.]]
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** When Luke defiantly rejects the Emperor once and for all, Palpatine responding by unleashing [[ShockAndAwe Force Lightning]] on him was originally a ''terrifying'' moment. Up to that point, the Emperor had given no indication that he was any kind of physical threat to Luke at all, appearing to be nothing more than a weak old man who was dangerous because he commanded the forces of the Empire (including [[TheHeavy Darth Vader]]) and because of his ability to BreakThemByTalking, so him suddenly shooting crackling lightning which [[AgonyBeam inflicts tortuous pain]] from his fingers was a ''[[{{Pun}} shocking]]'' twist. By the same token, up to this point the Force had only manifested as a guiding power that made Luke a better warrior and pilot, with its only physical manifestation being [[MindOverMatter telekinesis]] (which Vader had admittedly used very effectively during his duel against Luke on Cloud City). Force Lightning was a whole new level of power which displayed to frightening effect how powerful the Emperor and his mastery of the Dark Side truly was; indeed, the novelization described it as a horrific perversion of the Force the likes of which Luke hadn't even imagined might be possible. Unfortunately, the expanded universe made it a trademark of ''every'' Fallen Jedi and Sith lord, to the point where it came to be considered more or less the ''default'' power for them. In the later stages of the Legends continuity, even ''Light Jedi'' (including ''Luke himself'') started using it under limited circumstances! The ability had become so overexposed over the decades that going back and watching the climax of ''Return of the Jedi'' now makes it hard for a new viewer to see why Palpatine shooting lightning at Luke is such a big deal.
** [[HeelFaceTurn Darth Vader's Redemption.]] At the time, the idea of the series most prominent antagonist sacrificing himself for the heroes at the last minute was probably almost as shocking as [[LukeIAmYourFather the last twist related to his character,]] and it served to give the trilogy an especially optimistic ending while rounding out Luke's character arc almost perfectly. Decades later, though, a villain like Vader [[RedemptionRejection not getting redeemed]] is seen as more subversive, and countless similar villain redemption arcs [[Characters/StarWarsKyloRen including Vader's successor in the franchise]] have been accused of being UnintentionallyUnsympathetic [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis,]] and the arcs for promoting [[ICanChangeMyBeloved toxic ideas about family or one's ability to save the one's they love.]] More-fleshed out redemption arcs have also exposed how [[RedemptionEqualsDeath relatively minimal]] Vader's is by comparison and the FridgeLogic of why [[EasyEvangelism saving his son apparently made him pull a complete personality and ideological 180.]]
** When Luke defiantly rejects the Emperor once and for all, Palpatine responding by unleashing [[ShockAndAwe Force Lightning]] on him was originally a ''terrifying'' moment. Up to that point, the Emperor had given no indication that he was any kind of physical threat to Luke at all, appearing to be nothing more than a weak old man who was dangerous because he commanded the forces of the Empire (including [[TheHeavy Darth Vader]]) and because of his ability to BreakThemByTalking, so him suddenly shooting crackling lightning which [[AgonyBeam inflicts tortuous pain]] from his fingers was a ''[[{{Pun}} shocking]]'' twist. By the same token, up to this point the Force had only manifested as a guiding power that made Luke a better warrior and pilot, with its only physical manifestation being [[MindOverMatter telekinesis]] (which Vader had admittedly used very effectively during his duel against Luke on Cloud City). Force Lightning was a whole new level of power which displayed to frightening effect how powerful the Emperor and his mastery of the Dark Side truly was; indeed, the novelization described it as a horrific perversion of the Force the likes of which Luke hadn't even imagined might be possible. Unfortunately, the expanded universe made it a trademark of ''every'' Fallen Jedi and Sith lord, to the point where it came to be considered more or less the ''default'' power for them. In the later stages of the Legends continuity, even ''Light Jedi'' (including ''Luke himself'') started using it under limited circumstances! The ability had become so overexposed over the decades that going back and watching the climax of ''Return of the Jedi'' now makes it hard for a new viewer to see why Palpatine shooting lightning at Luke is such a big deal.
** [[HeelFaceTurn Darth Vader's Redemption.]] At the time, the idea of the series most prominent antagonist sacrificing himself for the heroes at the last minute was probably almost as shocking as [[LukeIAmYourFather the last twist related to his character,]] and it served to give the trilogy an especially optimistic ending while rounding out Luke's character arc almost perfectly. Decades later, though, a villain like Vader [[RedemptionRejection not getting redeemed]] is seen as more subversive, and countless similar villain redemption arcs [[Characters/StarWarsKyloRen including Vader's successor in the franchise]] have been accused of being UnintentionallyUnsympathetic [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis,]] and the arcs for promoting [[ICanChangeMyBeloved toxic ideas about family or one's ability to save the one's they love.]] More-fleshed out redemption arcs have also exposed how [[RedemptionEqualsDeath relatively minimal]] Vader's is by comparison and the FridgeLogic of why [[EasyEvangelism saving his son apparently made him pull a complete personality and ideological 180.]]
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* DiscreditedMeme: Despite the popularity of "Slave Leia", in recent years, showing her in memes is seen as bad taste, implying that the fandom only likes the character because she is sexualized, instead of because she is a strong rebel leader.
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* DiscreditedMeme: Despite the popularity of "Slave Leia", in recent years, over time, showing her in memes is seen as bad taste, implying that the fandom only likes the character because she is sexualized, instead of because she is a strong rebel leader.
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* DiscreditedMeme: Despite the popularity of "Slave Leia", in recent years, showing her in memes is seen as bad taste, implying that the fandom only likes the character because she is sexualized, instead of because she is a strong rebel leader.
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** Vader's HeelFaceTurn was originally about Luke finally connecting with Vader, but after the Prequel Trilogy, it can be seen as Vader realizing that every step of the way, Luke had endured nominally similar hardships -- without succumbing. It's no longer simply about Vader's love of his son, but the implication that all the excuses Vader had told himself -- other people holding him back or betraying him or forcing him to do something -- were self-delusions, and that he never had to fall. The subsequent attack on Palpatine is no longer merely a BerserkButton of hurting Anakin's family, it's now Anakin returning from the DespairEventHorizon he's languished in for decades.
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** Vader's Darth Vader:
*** His HeelFaceTurn was originally about Luke finally connecting with Vader, but after the Prequel Trilogy, it can be seen as Vader realizing that every step of the way, Luke had endured nominally similar hardships -- without succumbing. It's no longer simply about Vader's love of his son, but the implication that all the excuses Vader had told himself -- other people holding him back or betraying him or forcing him to do something -- were self-delusions, and that he never had to fall. The subsequent attack on Palpatine is no longer merely a BerserkButton of hurting Anakin's family, it's now Anakin returning from the DespairEventHorizon he's languished in for decades.
*** His HeelFaceTurn was originally about Luke finally connecting with Vader, but after the Prequel Trilogy, it can be seen as Vader realizing that every step of the way, Luke had endured nominally similar hardships -- without succumbing. It's no longer simply about Vader's love of his son, but the implication that all the excuses Vader had told himself -- other people holding him back or betraying him or forcing him to do something -- were self-delusions, and that he never had to fall. The subsequent attack on Palpatine is no longer merely a BerserkButton of hurting Anakin's family, it's now Anakin returning from the DespairEventHorizon he's languished in for decades.
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*** Ironicaly, Luke basicaly became Qui-Gon Jinn and carried his ideas to his new Jedi Order.
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** After the nearly universal backlash against Jar Jar Binks in the Prequel Trilogy, many fans have looked more favorably upon the Ewoks. They at least contribute more to the plot and meaningfully help the heroes in taking down the shield generator.
** After the nearly universal backlash against Jar Jar Binks in the Prequel Trilogy, many fans have looked more favorably upon the Ewoks. They at least contribute more to the plot and meaningfully help the heroes in taking down the shield generator.
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** When Palpatine tells Vader that he didn't sense Luke's arrival, is that him telling the truth? Or is he lying as part of his questioning of his apprentice's motives?
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* {{Fanon}}: The origin of Luke's green lightsaber crystal in the new Disney canon. In ''Legends'', it was established that Luke made his crystal synthetically like the Sith used to do (although it turned out green rather than red due to Luke's light side energy). However, once Disney rebooted the EU, all lightsaber crystals are now naturally-occurring kyber crystals. Since kyber crystals are rare and sites abundant with them are under heavy Imperial security, it seems unlikely that Luke found his own crystal (which is why he made a synthetic one in ''Legends''). So many fans believe that the crystal in Luke's lightsaber is the one that once belonged to [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Qui-Gon Jinn]]. Obi-Wan took possession of Qui-Gon's saber after his death [[http://www.cmdstore.com/star-wars-mythos-series-12-inch-action-figure-obi-wan-kenobi.html and this collectible figure by Disney seemingly confirms that he still possessed it by the time of A New Hope]] and Luke found the instructions and some of the parts on how to build one in Obi-Wan's hut. It's not too much of a stretch that Luke would have borrowed the crystal of his master's master, especially since the first lightsaber Luke used was his father's hand-me-down.
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* {{Fanon}}: The origin of Luke's green lightsaber crystal in the new Disney canon. In ''Legends'', it was established that Luke made his crystal synthetically like the Sith used to do (although it turned out green rather than red due to Luke's light side energy). However, once Disney rebooted the EU, all lightsaber crystals are now naturally-occurring kyber crystals. Since kyber crystals are rare and sites abundant with them are under heavy Imperial security, it seems unlikely that Luke found his own crystal (which is why he made a synthetic one in ''Legends''). So many fans believe that the crystal in Luke's lightsaber is the one that once belonged to [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Qui-Gon Jinn]]. Obi-Wan took possession of Qui-Gon's saber lightsaber after his death [[http://www.cmdstore.com/star-wars-mythos-series-12-inch-action-figure-obi-wan-kenobi.html and this collectible figure by Disney seemingly confirms that he still possessed it by the time of A New Hope]] and Luke found the instructions and some of the parts on how to build one in Obi-Wan's hut. It's not too much of a stretch that Luke would have borrowed the crystal of his master's master, especially since the first lightsaber Luke used was his father's hand-me-down.
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*** Was Vader's heart truly not in it to help the Empire anymore to the point that he wanted to prep and prompt Luke to take his place with the Emperor in order to preserve his life? Vader initially wanted Luke to help him take out the Emperor and rule with him and yet, Vader knew that despite his power, he could only do all this so much longer. It's very hard not to see Vader struggling every step of the way in trying to act like Luke's attempts to push him aren't getting to him and making him question everything to the point that Vader feels like ever since before ''[[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Empire]]'' when he discovered Luke's existence[[note]]Going by the theatrical version that doesn't have the "...this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker" line[[/note]], it shifted his focus significantly in continuing to go along with the Empire while his focus more so was on being able to track down and learn all he could about the son he never knew he had before.
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*** Was Vader's heart truly not in it to help the Empire anymore to the point that he wanted to prep and prompt Luke to take his place with the Emperor in order to preserve his life? Vader initially wanted Luke to help him take out the Emperor and rule with him and yet, Vader knew that despite his power, he could only do all this so much longer.longer--and that even before Luke is being attacked with the Force Lightning, Vader leaning against the railing after having Luke taken away by the Stormtroopers indicates [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone a painful feeling of regret and anguish]]. It's very hard not to see Vader struggling every step of the way in trying to act like Luke's attempts to push him aren't getting to him and making him question everything to the point that Vader feels like ever since before ''[[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Empire]]'' when he discovered Luke's existence[[note]]Going by the theatrical version that doesn't have the "...this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker" line[[/note]], it shifted his focus significantly in continuing to go along with the Empire while his focus more so was on being able to track down and learn all he could about the son he never knew he had before.
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*** Was Vader's heart truly not in it to help the Empire anymore to the point that he wanted to prep and prompt Luke to take his place with the Emperor in order to preserve his life? Vader initially wanted Luke to help him take out the Emperor and rule with him and yet, Vader knew that despite his power, he could only do all this so much longer. It's very hard not to see Vader struggling every step of the way in trying to act like Luke's attempts to push him aren't getting to him and making him question everything to the point that Vader feels like ever since before ''[[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Empire]]'' when he discovered Luke's existence[[note]]Going by the theatrical version that doesn't have the "...this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker" line[[/note]], it shifted his focus significantly in continuing to go along with the Empire while his focus more so was on being able to track down and learn all he could about the son he never knew he had before.
