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*** Was Mordecai, at least on some level, sticking by Rigby because at least until later on in the show, Rigby made him look better by comparison? Both Mordecai and Rigby were lazy and irresponsible [[ManChild man children]], who never finished school and wound up working dead end jobs at the local park, that they can barely even hold down. But at the same time, few would argue that Rigby wasn't the worst of the two for much of the series. And Mordecai does seem rather reluctant to give Rigby credit when he actually ''was'' being a good worker and friend in "Lift with Your Back" and when Rigby does make genuine strides in bettering himself late into the series, Mordecai is too wrapped up in his own personal issues to be happy for him. Some may even think he's envious that his "loser" friends actually improving his life.
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*** Was Mordecai, at least on some level, sticking by Rigby because at least until later on in the show, Rigby made him look better by comparison? Both Mordecai and Rigby were lazy and irresponsible [[ManChild man children]], who never finished college or high school respectively and wound up working dead end jobs at the local park, that they can barely even hold down. But at the same time, few would argue that Rigby wasn't the worst of the two for much of the series. And Mordecai does seem rather reluctant to give Rigby credit when he actually ''was'' being a good worker and friend in "Lift with Your Back" and when Rigby does make genuine strides in bettering himself late into the series, Mordecai is too wrapped up in his own personal issues to be happy for him. Some may even think he's envious that his "loser" friends actually improving his life.
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*** Was Mordecai, at least on some level, sticking by Rigby because at least until later on in the show, Rigby made him look better by comparison? Both Mordecai and Rigby were lazy and irresponsible [[ManChild man children]], who never finished school and wound up working dead end jobs at the local park, that they can barely even hold down. But at the same time, few would argue that Rigby wasn't the worst of the two for much of the series. And Mordecai does seem rather reluctant to give Rigby credit when he actually ''was'' being a good worker and friend in "Lift with Your Back" and when Rigby does make genuine strides in bettering himself late into the series, Mordecai is too wrapped up in his own personal issues to be happy for him. Some may even think he's envious that his "loser" friends actually improving his life.
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*** Was Mordecai, at least on some level, sticking by Rigby because at least until later on in the show, Rigby made him look better by comparison? Both Mordecai and Rigby were lazy and irresponsible [[ManChild man children]], who never finished college or high school respectively and wound up working dead end jobs at the local park, that they can barely even hold down. But at the same time, few would argue that Rigby wasn't the worst of the two for much of the series. And Mordecai does seem rather reluctant to give Rigby credit when he actually ''was'' being a good worker and friend in "Lift with Your Back" and when Rigby does make genuine strides in bettering himself late into the series, Mordecai is too wrapped up in his own personal issues to be happy for him. Some may even think he's envious that his "loser" friends actually improving his life.
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I’d argue it belongs here since there IS debate in the fandom over this,
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** Benson is the biggest one. Either he's [[MeanBoss a strict boss]] who has to put up with [[TheSlacker Mordecai and Rigby's]] antics and laziness, yet still cares for them and only wishes to [[ToughLove teach them the meaning of being people that like to do their job]], or he's an insufferable {{Jerkass}} who threatens to fire them for the [[DisproportionateRetribution stupidest reasons]]. [[TakeAThirdOption Or he's both]].
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** Benson is the biggest one. Either he's [[MeanBoss a somewhat strict boss]] boss who does care about his job and his employees, as long as they actually do their job, and who has to put up with [[TheSlacker Mordecai and Rigby's]] antics and laziness, yet still cares for them and only wishes to [[ToughLove teach them the meaning of being people that like to do their job]], or he's an insufferable [[MeanBoss insufferable]] {{Jerkass}} who threatens to fire them for the [[DisproportionateRetribution stupidest reasons]]. [[TakeAThirdOption Or he's both]].
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** Margaret is either a likable, well written supporting character with good romantic chemistry with Mordecai or an annoying, bland plot device for Mordecai. After Season 5, this sentiment managed to die down a bit, only to come back on later seasons, especially once the love triangle between her, Mordecai, and CJ started, as some blame her for ruining their relationship and admitting later she still had feelings for Mordecai, when she broke up with and didn't even keep in touch with him after she left nor considered having a long distance relationship.
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** Margaret is either a likable, well written supporting character with good romantic chemistry with Mordecai Mordecai, or an annoying, bland plot device for Mordecai. After Season 5, this sentiment managed to die down a bit, only to come back on later seasons, especially once the love triangle between her, Mordecai, and CJ started, as some blame her for ruining their relationship and admitting later she still had feelings for Mordecai, when she broke up with and didn't even keep in touch with him after she left nor considered having a long distance relationship.
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** Finally, Pops is either cute due to his [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} naive personality]], or annoying for the same reason.
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** Finally, Pops is either cute endearing due to his [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} naive personality]], or annoying for the same reason.reason.
* BrokenBase: Who should Mordecai be with? CJ or Margaret? Does he even deserve to be with either? [[spoiler: Ultimately it doesn't matter in the end as he marries and has kids with an artist bat woman named Stef in the future, but there's still debate over who is the better love interest.]]
** There's also debate on who is more in the wrong, many mostly blame Mordecai for his communication issues, kissing his ex in front of CJ (the same girl he asked out to the same movie as CJ years prior), and hijacking his own friend's wedding reception to make a speech about solemates and was presumably [[note]] Later Rigby asks if by "going with your gut" meant go crazy and try to dump your girlfriend at a wedding, which Mordecai replies that he's not good at this kind of stuff, implying that he was going to dump CJ and not profess his love [[/note]] going to dump his girlfriend in front of everyone (WordofGod even said Mordecai was "too wishy-washy" with both of them). However, people also either blame (or even put most of the blame on) Margaret for kissing Mordecai and admitting she still has feelings for Mordecai while not even keeping in touch with him after she broke up with him to leave for college, or CJ for her trust and anger issues towards Margaret and her actions in "1000th Chopper Flight Party" where her assuming the worst once again nearly killed people.
* BrokenBase: Who should Mordecai be with? CJ or Margaret? Does he even deserve to be with either? [[spoiler: Ultimately it doesn't matter in the end as he marries and has kids with an artist bat woman named Stef in the future, but there's still debate over who is the better love interest.]]
** There's also debate on who is more in the wrong, many mostly blame Mordecai for his communication issues, kissing his ex in front of CJ (the same girl he asked out to the same movie as CJ years prior), and hijacking his own friend's wedding reception to make a speech about solemates and was presumably [[note]] Later Rigby asks if by "going with your gut" meant go crazy and try to dump your girlfriend at a wedding, which Mordecai replies that he's not good at this kind of stuff, implying that he was going to dump CJ and not profess his love [[/note]] going to dump his girlfriend in front of everyone (WordofGod even said Mordecai was "too wishy-washy" with both of them). However, people also either blame (or even put most of the blame on) Margaret for kissing Mordecai and admitting she still has feelings for Mordecai while not even keeping in touch with him after she broke up with him to leave for college, or CJ for her trust and anger issues towards Margaret and her actions in "1000th Chopper Flight Party" where her assuming the worst once again nearly killed people.
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** Benson ''can'' be a [[MeanBoss meaner boss]] than necessary sometimes, but it's not like Mordecai and Rigby are employees of the month. They're constantly showing up late for work, they either ditch work or do it entirely incorrectly, and they trash the park consistently. It's not only putting ''their'' jobs at risk, it's also putting Benson in danger of being fired. But practically every episode treats him as an overreacting BadBoss. One episode had Mordecai and Rigby try to water plants with ''soda'', and instead of being reprimanded, Benson gets in trouble for yelling at them.
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** Benson ''can'' be a [[MeanBoss meaner boss]] than necessary sometimes, but it's not like Mordecai and Rigby are employees of the month. They're constantly showing up late for work, they either ditch work or do it entirely incorrectly, and they trash the park consistently. It's not only putting ''their'' jobs at risk, it's also putting Benson in danger of being fired. But practically every episode treats him as an overreacting BadBoss. One episode had Mordecai and Rigby try to water plants with ''soda'', and instead of being reprimanded, Benson gets in trouble with Pops for yelling at them.
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** Hilary, Mordecai's mother. While the episode is meant to center around how being embarrassed by one's parents is normal and you look like a bigger idiot if you lash out at your mom for trying to help, a lot of Hilary's behavior crosses the line. She seems to be in complete denial about Mordecai's boundaries, oversteps despite Mordecai making it clear how uncomfortable he is, and has even compiled a video of the worst things that have ever happened to him that she shows at family events. Tellingly, the tape doesn't feature any happy memories of Mordecai's childhood, only humiliating ones, and she insists on showing every member of the family so they can laugh at him in pain. While it's normal to have embarrassing parents that go a bit too far to impress their son's love interest, having made a cake out of CJ's face (despite having never met, meaning she likely stalked her online for a reference) is more than just embarrassing.
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** Hilary, Mordecai's mother. While the episode is meant to center around how being embarrassed by one's parents is normal and you look like a bigger idiot and a jerk if you lash out at your mom for trying to help, a lot of Hilary's behavior crosses the line. She seems to be in complete denial about Mordecai's boundaries, oversteps despite Mordecai making it clear how uncomfortable he is, which has scared off any girl Mordecai brought home when he was a teenager, and has even compiled a video of the worst most embarrassing things that have ever happened to him during his childhood that she shows at family events.events, and wanting to show it when he brings CJ over. Tellingly, the tape doesn't feature any happy memories of Mordecai's childhood, only humiliating ones, and she insists on showing every member of the family so they can laugh at him in pain. While Additionally, while it's normal to have embarrassing parents that go a bit too far to impress their son's love interest, having made a cake out of CJ's face (despite having never met, meaning as she likely pretty much stalked her online for a reference) is more than just embarrassing.
