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* SoOkayItsAverage: General consensus is that it’s a fine action film overall, but nowhere near as powerful as the first or as engaging as the second. Doesn’t help that it came out in the late 80's, a time where [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny these types of big action movies and their clichés were everywhere and played out at this point]].

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* SoOkayItsAverage: General consensus is that it’s a fine action film overall, but nowhere near as powerful as the first or as engaging as the second. Doesn’t help that it came out in the late 80's, a time where [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny these types of big action movies and their clichés were everywhere and played out at this point]].point.
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** Similarly, there have been bumper stickers with Osama bin Laden's face stating "Rambo and I support the mujahideen resistance".
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* CompleteMonster: [[DirtyCommunists Colonel Alexei Zaysen]] is a Soviet [[InsaneAdmiral military officer]] who is determined to see through the [[UsefulNotes/SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan genocidal campaign against Afghanistan]. Zaysen has headed up a variety of war crimes, including the mass rape and slaughter of pregnant women; disguising mines as toys so [[WouldHurtAChild children]] will be blown up; and regularly seeking villages to massacre the occupants. Running a heinous extermination camp, Zaysen regularly [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]] Afghanistan citizens to death through electricity, fire, and beatings just for fun, and when he captures Col. Samuel "Sam" Trautman, he subjects the man to these same torments. When Rambo tries to save Trautman and help the Afghan rebellion, Zaysen gleefully leads a helicopter squad to kill hundreds of men, women, and even babies.

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* CompleteMonster: [[DirtyCommunists Colonel Alexei Zaysen]] is a Soviet [[InsaneAdmiral military officer]] who is determined to see through the [[UsefulNotes/SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan genocidal campaign against Afghanistan].Afghanistan]]. Zaysen has headed up a variety of war crimes, including the mass rape and slaughter of pregnant women; disguising mines as toys so [[WouldHurtAChild children]] will be blown up; and regularly seeking villages to massacre the occupants. Running a heinous extermination camp, Zaysen regularly [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]] Afghanistan citizens to death through electricity, fire, and beatings just for fun, and when he captures Col. Samuel "Sam" Trautman, he subjects the man to these same torments. When Rambo tries to save Trautman and help the Afghan rebellion, Zaysen gleefully leads a helicopter squad to kill hundreds of men, women, and even babies.
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* CompleteMonster: [[DirtyCommunists Colonel Alexei Zaysen]] is a Soviet [[InsaneAdmiral military officer]] who is determined to see through the [[UsefulNotes/SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan genocidal campaign against Afghanistan]. Zaysen has headed up a variety of war crimes, including the mass rape and slaughter of pregnant women; disguising mines as toys so [[WouldHurtAChild children]] will be blown up; and regularly seeking villages to massacre the occupants. Running a heinous extermination camp, Zaysen regularly [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]] Afghanistan citizens to death through electricity, fire, and beatings just for fun, and when he captures Col. Samuel "Sam" Trautman, he subjects the man to these same torments. When Rambo tries to save Trautman and help the Afghan rebellion, Zaysen gleefully leads a helicopter squad to kill hundreds of men, women, and even babies.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The last of the Rambo movies to have Music/JerryGoldsmith as composer and a great score to go out with at the time. [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yt1v4mZ-k I’ll Stay]] in particular makes for the ultimate coda to his ''Rambo'' scores. "I'll Stay" was intended to be the end credits music but was supplanted by a Bill Medley Music/GiorgioMoroder-produced CoverVersion of "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother", perhaps in hopes of a BreakawayPopHit..

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The last of the Rambo movies to have Music/JerryGoldsmith as composer and a great score to go out with at the time. [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yt1v4mZ-k I’ll Stay]] in particular makes for the ultimate coda to his ''Rambo'' scores. "I'll Stay" was intended to be the end credits music but was supplanted by a Bill Medley Music/GiorgioMoroder-produced Bill Medley CoverVersion of "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother", perhaps in hopes of a BreakawayPopHit..
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The last of the Rambo movies to have Music/JerryGoldsmith as composer and a great score to go out with at the time. [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yt1v4mZ-k I’ll Stay]] in particular makes for the ultimate coda to his Rambo scores.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The last of the Rambo movies to have Music/JerryGoldsmith as composer and a great score to go out with at the time. [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yt1v4mZ-k I’ll Stay]] in particular makes for the ultimate coda to his Rambo scores.''Rambo'' scores. "I'll Stay" was intended to be the end credits music but was supplanted by a Bill Medley Music/GiorgioMoroder-produced CoverVersion of "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother", perhaps in hopes of a BreakawayPopHit..
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In WebVideo/RenegadeCut's [[https://youtu.be/kgrv78IvGD4 video]] about the ''Rambo'' franchise, he notes that this film had the possibility to show Rambo realizing that the US government was using the Afghan people as pawns in a proxy war with the Soviet Union much the same way he was used as a dispensable soldier during the Vietnam War. Instead, the movie settles on the simplistic "Russia bad, America good" narrative.

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* HarsherInHindsight: One terrorist attack later and the glorification of America's intervention in Afghanistan took a turn for the worse. The Taliban offensive and subsequent fall of the US-backed government in 2021 didn't help either.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
** The Soviets began withdrawing from Afghanistan ten days before the film's premier. And the withdraw of the Soviets did not improve the situation in Afghanistan one bit, with the collapse of the Soviet-backed government in 1992 and rival Mujahideen turning against each other, all resulting in a costly civil war that led to the Taliban taking power in 1996.
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One terrorist attack later and the glorification of America's intervention in Afghanistan took a turn for the worse. The Taliban offensive and subsequent fall of the US-backed government in 2021 didn't help either.
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** "This film is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan." became quite a meme, both in the sense of how badly the film aged and putting in other unrelated movies for snark. As noted above, however, it's actually an {{urban legend|s}}; the final dedication is actually to "the gallant people of Afghanistan" as a whole as opposed to the Mujahideen specifically.

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** "This film is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan." Afghanistan" became quite a meme, both in the sense of how badly the film aged and putting in other unrelated movies for snark. As noted above, however, it's actually an {{urban legend|s}}; the final dedication is actually to "the gallant people of Afghanistan" as a whole as opposed to the Mujahideen specifically.
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Colonel Alexei Zaysen]] is a [[ColonelKilgore brutal and psychotic]] Soviet commander who will go to any length to [[UsefulNotes/SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan take over Afghanistan]]. He owns a prison camp and enjoys torturing and killing his prisoners using methods such as electrocution, severe beatings, and tying their arms to a rope and yanking it in the air. When he finds [[Characters/RamboJohnRambo Rambo]] in an Afghan village, he launches an attack, killing dozens of innocent men, women, and children.
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I don’t remember anyone but historical revisionists dismissing the crimes of the Soviets.


** Even in late 80's it was easy to dismiss portrayal of Soviet Army as brutal, but incompetent, as propaganda. In 2022, after Russian invasion in Ukraine, this portrayal unexpectedly become rather accurate.
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** Even in late 80's it was easy to dismiss portrayal of Soviet Army as brutal, but incompetent, as propaganda. In 2022, after Russian invasion in Ukraine, this portrayal unexpectedly become rather accurate.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The film was criticized for being dated right as [[ExaggeratedTrope it hit theatres]]. The anticommunism goes UpToEleven in a time when the UsefulNotes/ColdWar was actually thawing, and worst of all, the Soviet Union acknowledged defeat and began to withdraw from Afghanistan ten days ''before'' the movie's release. This is before one even considers the impression of Afghanistan that many Westerners have formed since UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, when [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters those previously considered "freedom fighters" were increasingly regarded as or conceptually associated with "terrorists."]]

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The film was criticized for being dated right as [[ExaggeratedTrope it hit theatres]]. The anticommunism goes UpToEleven up to eleven in a time when the UsefulNotes/ColdWar was actually thawing, and worst of all, the Soviet Union acknowledged defeat and began to withdraw from Afghanistan ten days ''before'' the movie's release. This is before one even considers the impression of Afghanistan that many Westerners have formed since UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, when [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters those previously considered "freedom fighters" were increasingly regarded as or conceptually associated with "terrorists."]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Colonel Alexei Zaysen]] is a [[ColonelKilgore brutal and psychotic]] Soviet commander who will go to any length to [[UsefulNotes/SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan take over Afghanistan]]. He owns a prison camp and enjoys torturing and killing his prisoners using methods such as electrocution, severe beatings, and tying their arms to a rope and yanking it in the air. When he finds Rambo in an Afghan village, he launches an attack, killing dozens of innocent men, women, and children.

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Colonel Alexei Zaysen]] is a [[ColonelKilgore brutal and psychotic]] Soviet commander who will go to any length to [[UsefulNotes/SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan take over Afghanistan]]. He owns a prison camp and enjoys torturing and killing his prisoners using methods such as electrocution, severe beatings, and tying their arms to a rope and yanking it in the air. When he finds Rambo [[Characters/RamboJohnRambo Rambo]] in an Afghan village, he launches an attack, killing dozens of innocent men, women, and children.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Some mild ones during the scene where Rambo bonds with the local Afghans.
** During the "sheep-ball" game between Rambo and a few of the locals, the carcass of the sheep being used as a ball alternates between a real one and an obvious-looking rubber prop.
** Later on when Zaysen leads a helicopter attack on the village, a brief scene where a woman holding a baby gets gunned down has an obvious-looking doll in place of said baby.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: ''Rambo III'' managed to put the hammer and sickle in the center of the Soviet flag rather than in the corner. How do you even make that mistake?

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