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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a [[OutOfCharacterMoment Out of Character]] KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side. Other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as much as the two love each other, Angelica was still gonna try to kill him for killing his father, no matter if it was to save her and argue that Jack probably knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].

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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a [[OutOfCharacterMoment Out of Character]] KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience convenience from his side. Other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as much as the two love each other, Angelica was still gonna try to kill him for killing his father, no matter if it was to save her and argue that Jack probably knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].
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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a Out of Character KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side. Other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as much as the two love each other, Angelica was still gonna try to kill him for killing his father, no matter if it was to save her and argue that Jack probably knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].

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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a [[OutOfCharacterMoment Out of Character Character]] KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side. Other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as much as the two love each other, Angelica was still gonna try to kill him for killing his father, no matter if it was to save her and argue that Jack probably knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].
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** Inverted with Philip. His fate is left ambiguous but the implication is that wherever Syrena is taking him would heal him but because of the character's unpopularity many fans prefer to believe that Syrena was a BitchInSheepsClothing and that she was going to kill him.
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** Is Blackbeard truly a BeyondRedemption monster who doesn't care for no one but himself, or just a really horrible man who was afraid of death but actually cared about his daughter? Much of the dialogue suggests he actually loves his daughter and thinks she is the only good thing he has done even when she isn't with him (like the scene in Blackbeard's cabin), and some instances suggest he actually wishes for redemption even when he acknowledges he has gone too far in villany. Not to mention it is left somewhat vague whether he knew which of the guns were safe in the RussianRoulette game and was for convincing Jack to go down. Also him wanting Angélica to sacrifice herself for him in the Fountain of Youth; a moment of him being a ManipulativeBastard to save his skin or a MomentOfWeakness that he would likely regret for the rest of his life?

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** Is Blackbeard truly a BeyondRedemption monster who doesn't care for no one anyone but himself, or just a really horrible man who was afraid of death but actually cared about his daughter? Much of the dialogue suggests he actually loves his daughter and thinks she is the only good thing he has done even when she isn't with him (like the scene in Blackbeard's cabin), and some instances suggest he actually wishes for redemption even when he acknowledges he has gone too far in villany. Not to mention it is left somewhat vague whether he knew which of the guns were safe in the RussianRoulette game and was for convincing Jack to go down. Also him wanting Angélica to sacrifice herself for him in the Fountain of Youth; a moment of him being a ManipulativeBastard to save his skin or a MomentOfWeakness that he would likely regret for the rest of his life?

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* CompleteMonster: [[TheDreaded Captain Edward Teach]], the infamous UsefulNotes/{{Blackbeard}}, prides himself on being one of the most feared men on the high seas. Blackbeard [[BadBoss abuses and murders members of his own crew]] on the basis of "if I don't kill a man every now and then, they forget who I am". He incinerates [[Characters/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanQueenAnnesRevenge his ship]]'s cook to demonstrate this and resurrecting some of his own slain crew members as mindlessly obedient zombies. On his quest to the FountainOfYouth to avert his prophesied death at the hands of a one-legged man, Blackbeard puts a mermaid named Syrena through hideous treatment for the purpose of gaining her tear, first showing her the remains of her own fellow mermaids and then ordering Philip Swift, the single man who displays compassion to her, supposedly killed in front of her to further manipulate her. Blackbeard claims to love his daughter, but undersells even this through a risky game of RussianRoulette with his own daughter's life and ultimately trying to sacrifice her life for his own at the Fountain of Youth. Blackbeard admits he feels closest to God in moments of pain and anguish and calmly tortured and murdered anyone who dared to stand against him.

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* CompleteMonster: [[TheDreaded Captain Edward Teach]], the infamous UsefulNotes/{{Blackbeard}}, prides himself on being one of the most feared men on the high seas. Blackbeard [[BadBoss abuses and murders members of his own crew]] on the basis of "if I don't kill a man every now and then, they forget who I am". He incinerates [[Characters/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanQueenAnnesRevenge his ship]]'s ship's cook to demonstrate this and resurrecting some of his own slain crew members as mindlessly obedient zombies. On his quest to the FountainOfYouth to avert his prophesied death at the hands of a one-legged man, Blackbeard puts a mermaid named Syrena through hideous treatment for the purpose of gaining her tear, first showing her the remains of her own fellow mermaids and then ordering Philip Swift, the single man who displays compassion to her, supposedly killed in front of her to further manipulate her. Blackbeard claims to love his daughter, but undersells even this through a risky game of RussianRoulette with his own daughter's life and ultimately trying to sacrifice her life for his own at the Fountain of Youth. Blackbeard admits he feels closest to God in moments of pain and anguish and calmly tortured and murdered anyone who dared to stand against him.



* MagnificentBastard: The Spaniard is the leader of the [[Characters/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanSpanishEmpire Spanish Armada]] seeking the destruction of the FountainOfYouth as they believes God's power to give and take life doesn't belong in man's hands. Refusing to engage enemies on a whim and keeping his mind on his mission, the Spaniard successfully steals the chalices needed for the ritual as a means of delaying those on the quest to get there. Upon arrival at the Fountain, the Spaniard shoots a British Naval officer for nearly declaring the land for the British--while wanting to remember the man for his bravery--and has the chalices taken from Angelica after asking nicely so as to then stomp on them. After the Spaniard succeeds in having the Fountain blown up, killing the rest of Blackbeard's men in the process, he then orders his men to follow him as he gracefully departs.

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* MagnificentBastard: The Spaniard is the leader of the [[Characters/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanSpanishEmpire Spanish Armada]] Armada seeking the destruction of the FountainOfYouth as they believes God's power to give and take life doesn't belong in man's hands. Refusing to engage enemies on a whim and keeping his mind on his mission, the Spaniard successfully steals the chalices needed for the ritual as a means of delaying those on the quest to get there. Upon arrival at the Fountain, the Spaniard shoots a British Naval officer for nearly declaring the land for the British--while wanting to remember the man for his bravery--and has the chalices taken from Angelica after asking nicely so as to then stomp on them. After the Spaniard succeeds in having the Fountain blown up, killing the rest of Blackbeard's men in the process, he then orders his men to follow him as he gracefully departs.
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* ContestedSequel: It's either an improvement over ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest Dead Man's Chest]]'' and ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanAtWorldsEnd At World's End]]'' for featuring a plot that's easier to follow, or a downright FranchiseZombie where the writers are struggling to find new ideas. The fact that the movie switched from HighFantasy back to the LowFantasy style of the first movie did not seem to have an effect on lots of people.

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* ContestedSequel: It's either an improvement over ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest Dead Man's Chest]]'' and ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanAtWorldsEnd At World's End]]'' for featuring a plot that's easier to follow, or a downright FranchiseZombie installment where the writers are struggling to find new ideas. The fact that the movie switched from HighFantasy back to the LowFantasy style of the first movie did not seem to have an effect on lots of people.
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** [[spoiler:Groves's death]]. Many fans see it as a DyingMomentOfAwesome, while other fans were pissed off that a [[AllForNothing beloved character was killed over a pointless cause after a movie of not achieving anything]].

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** [[spoiler:Groves's death]]. Many fans see it as a DyingMomentOfAwesome, while other fans were pissed off that a [[AllForNothing beloved character [[AllForNothing was killed over a pointless cause after a movie of not achieving anything]].
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** [[spoiler:Groves's death]]. Many fans see it as a DyingMomentOfAwesome, while other fans were pissed off that a [[AllForNothing beloved character was killed over a pointless cause after a movie of not achieving anything]].
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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a Out of Character KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side. Other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as as much as the two love each other, Angelica was gonna try to kill him for killing Blackbeard and that Jack knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].

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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a Out of Character KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side. Other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as as much as the two love each other, Angelica was still gonna try to kill him for killing Blackbeard his father, no matter if it was to save her and argue that Jack probably knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Blackbeard is defeated by Barbossa putting an scratch in his hand while he was distracted and then getting stabbed in the impulse. Granted it was with a poisonus sword but is still an anticlimatic way to go for someone claimed to be "the pirate all pirates fear"

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* AntiClimaxBoss: Blackbeard is defeated by Barbossa putting an scratch in his hand while he was distracted and then getting stabbed in the impulse. Granted it was with a poisonus sword but is still an anticlimatic way to go for someone claimed to be "the pirate all pirates fear"fear".



** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a Out of Character KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side, other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as much as the two love each other, Angelica was gonna try to kill him for killing Blackbeard and that Jack knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].

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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a Out of Character KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side, other side. Other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as as much as the two love each other, Angelica was gonna try to kill him for killing Blackbeard and that Jack knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].



** Out of all of new crewmembers introduced this movie, Scrum was the one who resonated more with the fanbase, he's the only character introduced in this movie to appear in the following sequel.
** Ezekiel, the CoolOldGuy and OnlySaneMan during the mermaids scene. Also a MemeticBadass.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Beyond those who ignore the whole movie, many fans prefer to pretend the death of [[spoiler: Gillete, Groves and the UncertainDoom of the older Black Pearl's crew]] didn't happen because of those character's EnsembleDarkHorse status and the overall feeling [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter they deserved more dignified deaths]]

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** Out of all of new crewmembers crew members introduced this movie, Scrum was the one who resonated more with the fanbase, he's fanbase. He's the only character introduced in this movie to appear in the following sequel.
** Ezekiel, the CoolOldGuy and OnlySaneMan during the mermaids scene. Also a MemeticBadass.
MemeticBadass that survives till the end.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Beyond those who ignore the whole movie, many fans prefer to pretend the death of [[spoiler: Gillete, Groves and the UncertainDoom of the older Black Pearl's crew]] didn't happen because of those character's EnsembleDarkHorse status and the overall feeling [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter they deserved more dignified deaths]]deaths]].



** The mermaids aside from Syrena, especially Tamara (played by Gemma Ward) and Marina (Jorgelina Airadi), are this crossed with CreepyAwesome.

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** The mermaids aside from Syrena, especially Tamara Tamara, the one who speaks to the pirates (played by Gemma Ward) and Marina (Jorgelina (the second mermaid who reaches the boat and who was in a MissingTrailerScene with Jack, played by Jorgelina Airadi), are this crossed with CreepyAwesome.



** [[Film/TheHungerGamesCatchingFire Finnick Odair]] spent some time on Blackbeard's ship before returning to the Hunger Games arena.
** Perhaps [[Series/OnceUponATime Peter Pan]]'s fascination with pirates came from his time as a cabin boy on Blackbeard's ship.

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** [[Film/TheHungerGamesCatchingFire Finnick Odair]] spent some time imprisoned on Blackbeard's ship before returning to the Hunger Games arena.
** Perhaps [[Series/OnceUponATime Peter Pan]]'s fascination with pirates came from his time as a cabin boy Cabin Boy on Blackbeard's ship.



** The Spaniard. A cool, mysterious individual who, along with his crew, is set up to be a genuine threat to snatch the Fountain of Youth out from under Blackbeard, Jack and Barbossa... [[spoiler:and he has no impact whatsoever on the plot, aside from serving as a pretense for Barbossa to go after Blackbeard (which, given the latter's notoriety and reputation for heinous crimes, was probably unnecessary anyway) and later tearing down the temple housing the Fountain in the name of God (which could easily have been rewritten as occurring during a battle between Blackbeard's crew and the British)]]. To make it worse, the film briefly teased an intriguing sword-fight between the Spaniard and Blackbeard, [[spoiler:only for that to amount to nothing more than a diversion so that Barbossa can slash Blackbeard with his poisoned blade, which could have easily been written in as occurring after a few minutes of duelling between the Spaniard and Blackbeard (or at the end as the latter was about to win)]]. As it was, the entire Spanish contingent could have been removed from the film with minimal impact on the plot.
** The mermaids are seen as one of the highlights of this installment, but more that a few fans expressed dissapointment they are only in one set piece at the middle of the movie before the focus goes to the love story between Philip and Syrena, is particulary dissapointing given nothing else on the island is as big of a challenge as the mermaids were, so they showing up a couple more of times could have give more tension to the quest.

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** The Spaniard. A cool, mysterious individual who, along with his crew, is set up to be a genuine threat to snatch the Fountain of Youth out from under Blackbeard, Jack and Barbossa... [[spoiler:and he has no impact whatsoever on the plot, aside from serving as a pretense for Barbossa to go after Blackbeard (which, given the latter's notoriety and reputation for heinous crimes, was probably unnecessary anyway) and later tearing down the temple housing the Fountain in the name of God (which could easily have been rewritten as occurring during a battle between Blackbeard's crew and the British)]]. To make it worse, the film briefly teased an intriguing sword-fight between the Spaniard and Blackbeard, [[spoiler:only for that to amount to nothing more than a diversion so that Barbossa can slash Blackbeard with his poisoned blade, which could have easily been written in as occurring after a few minutes of duelling dueling between the Spaniard and Blackbeard (or at the end as the latter was about to win)]]. As it was, the entire Spanish contingent could have been removed from the film with minimal impact on the plot.
** The mermaids are seen as one of the highlights of this installment, but more that a few fans expressed dissapointment disappointment they are only in one set piece at the middle of the movie before the focus goes to the love story between Philip and Syrena, is particulary dissapointing given nothing else on the island is as big of a challenge as the mermaids were, so they them showing up a couple more of times could have give more tension to the quest.
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** Is Blackbeard truly a CompleteMonster that goes beyond redemption who doesn't care for no one but himself, or just a really horrible man who was afraid of death but actually cared about his daughter? Much of the dialogue suggests he actually loves his daughter and thinks she is the only good thing he has done even when she isn't with him (like the scene in Blackbeard's cabin), and some instances suggest he actually wishes for redemption even when he acknowledges he has gone too far in villany. Not to mention it is left somewhat vague whether he knew which of the guns were safe in the RussianRoulette game and was for convincing Jack to go down. Also him wanting Angélica to sacrifice herself for him in the Fountain of Youth; a moment of him being a ManipulativeBastard to save his skin or a MomentOfWeakness that he would likely regret for the rest of his life?

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** Is Blackbeard truly a CompleteMonster that goes beyond redemption BeyondRedemption monster who doesn't care for no one but himself, or just a really horrible man who was afraid of death but actually cared about his daughter? Much of the dialogue suggests he actually loves his daughter and thinks she is the only good thing he has done even when she isn't with him (like the scene in Blackbeard's cabin), and some instances suggest he actually wishes for redemption even when he acknowledges he has gone too far in villany. Not to mention it is left somewhat vague whether he knew which of the guns were safe in the RussianRoulette game and was for convincing Jack to go down. Also him wanting Angélica to sacrifice herself for him in the Fountain of Youth; a moment of him being a ManipulativeBastard to save his skin or a MomentOfWeakness that he would likely regret for the rest of his life?
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** The mermaids are seen as one of the highlights of this installment, but more that a few fans expressed dissapointment they are only in one set piece at the middle of the movie before the focus goes to the love story between Philip and Syrena, is particulary dissapointing given nothing else on the island is as big of a challenge as the mermaids were, so they showing up a couple more of times could have give more tension to the quest.
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** The Jack and Barbossa's RivalsTeamUp. It could have a very fun way to play with the formula of the franchise plus a perfect chance for Jack to get on top of the situation once again, sadly it only lasts 10 minuted before both characters go back to their respective subplots.

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** The Jack and Barbossa's RivalsTeamUp. It could have a very fun way to play with the formula of the franchise plus a perfect chance for Jack to get on top of the situation once again, sadly it only lasts 10 minuted minutes before both characters go back to their respective subplots.
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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a Out of Character KickTheDog feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side, other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as much as the two love each other, Angelica was gonna try to kill him for killing Blackbeard and that Jack knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].

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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a Out of Character KickTheDog moment feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side, other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as much as the two love each other, Angelica was gonna try to kill him for killing Blackbeard and that Jack knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].

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** [[spoiler: Jack abandoning Angelica at an Island at the end of the movie]]. Some fans saw it as a Out of Character KickTheDog feeling that Jack would never do something so low to someone he cares so much about without any convinience from his side, other fans argue that while a low blow, is very justified given [[spoiler: as much as the two love each other, Angelica was gonna try to kill him for killing Blackbeard and that Jack knew Angelica was gonna make it out of the island and he's just assuring his safety]].



* JustHereForGodzilla: Some fans only see it for either [[CreepyAwesome The Mermaids]], [[MagnificentBastard The Spaniards]] or the Jack and Barbossa's RivalsTeamUp.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sao Feng's map being destroyed when the purpose of its introduction in the previous film seemed to be to create a cool visual plot device that could be employed in future films.

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Sao Feng's map being destroyed when the purpose of its introduction in the previous film seemed to be to create a cool visual plot device that could be employed in future films.films.
** The Jack and Barbossa's RivalsTeamUp. It could have a very fun way to play with the formula of the franchise plus a perfect chance for Jack to get on top of the situation once again, sadly it only lasts 10 minuted before both characters go back to their respective subplots.
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* BrokenBase:
** The overall LighterAndSofter tone and the fact that the movie is notably a lower stakes adventure in comparison to the DarkerAndEdgier first two sequels. Many fans appreciated the choice of making the story easier to follow after the previous sequels got hit with ContinuityLockout and think it makes the movie feel closer to the tone of the original, on the other hand other fans found the story not interesting enough and felt it resembled a {{Filler}} episode and there's a third faction who see it as a poorly executed SalvagedStory, as there are still many needlessly complicated details and too many subplots.
** Fans to this day debate whatever having Will and Elizabeth PutOnABus while Jack Sparrow became the sole protagonist was one of the movie's few right guesses or one of it's biggest flaws. Fans on favour, argue that their story is over and that Jack Sparrow was the most interesting character so the change was justified, other fans think that Jack Sparrow worked better as a supporting mentor and that having him as the sole protagonist turned him into a boring PinballProtagonist, not to mention the sector of the fanbase who feel ''Pirates of the Caribbean'' was really their story and as such, there's not more story to tell once they leave the series.
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* DieForOurShip: Angelica being declared as Jack Sparrow's OneTrueLove didn't went well with fans who shipped Jack with....[[LauncherOfAThousandShips well, anyone else]]. Is has even become a FandomSpecificPlot to have Angelica pulling a FaceHeelTurn for Jack killing Blackbeard, just so Jack can get with whoever the author prefer to ship Jack with.
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* CriticProof: The film received mostly negative reviews from critics, but that didn't stop it from grossing over $1 billion worldwide.

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