Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* BrokenBase: The fandom predictably split in their reactions to how certain characters are characterized. They were especially split after learning that [[spoiler:Matt Parkman]] made a FaceHeelTurn and is actively working with Renautas, and [[spoiler:Claire, Molly and Rene's deaths]].
to:
* BrokenBase: The fandom is predictably split in their reactions to how certain characters are characterized. They were especially split after learning that [[spoiler:Matt Parkman]] made a FaceHeelTurn and is actively working with Renautas, and [[spoiler:Claire, Molly and Rene's deaths]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* OnceOriginalNowCommon: When the original series premiered, it had basically zero competition in the superhero department. ''Reborn'' wasn't so lucky. Born into a world with the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse on film, television and online, and the Series/{{Arrowverse}} on the rival [[Creator/TheCW CW Network]], its flaws (and, by proxy, the original series's flaws) became that much more obvious. Hence its short existence.
Deleted line(s) 13 (click to see context) :
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When the original series premiered, it had basically zero competition in the superhero department. ''Reborn'' wasn't so lucky. Born into a world with the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse on film, television and online, and the Series/{{Arrowverse}} on the rival [[Creator/TheCW CW Network]], its flaws (and, by proxy, the original series's flaws) became that much more obvious. Hence its short existence.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
YMMV Tropes can't be played with. To subvert a trope is to play with a trope, so YMMV can't be subverted.
Deleted line(s) 19,20 (click to see context) :
* WinBackTheCrowd: Subverted. The show ''attempted'' to do this after the various bouts of SeasonalRot from the original series, and at first, it succeeded. As noted above, the show ended up repeating the same mistakes of its predecessor as it progressed. Thus ratings began to fall.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 3,7 (click to see context) :
* FridgeBrilliance: Remember season 4 in the parent show where Sylar spent half the season inside Matt's head and tormenting him about his family issues and restraining his ability use? Some of his corrupting influence lingered inside about using and abusing his ability. Factor in the fact he already had issues about his ability already and with his family life in complete tatters, Matt had nothing but his ability left. So why not go ahead and use it? When Erica presented him with an opportunity to hopefully fix his family life, of course he'd jump at the chance.
* FridgeHorror:
** The premiere reveals that [[spoiler: Claire Bennet was killed sometime after the end of ''Series/{{Heroes}}''. You know, the girl who was basically invincible? So much so that she recovered from having Sylar ''rip her head open?''. Yeah, something killed her.]] What the hell is that powerful?
*** [[spoiler: An eclipse, specifically caused by Phoebe's Umbrakinesis; it has a broad-spectrum depowering effect for many Evos. It took away her healing abilities and she died in childbirth.]]
*** [[spoiler: The real reason turns out to be Claire's son, who inadvertently stole her ability and left her unable to heal, resulting in her DeathByChildbirth.]]
* FridgeHorror:
** The premiere reveals that [[spoiler: Claire Bennet was killed sometime after the end of ''Series/{{Heroes}}''. You know, the girl who was basically invincible? So much so that she recovered from having Sylar ''rip her head open?''. Yeah, something killed her.]] What the hell is that powerful?
*** [[spoiler: An eclipse, specifically caused by Phoebe's Umbrakinesis; it has a broad-spectrum depowering effect for many Evos. It took away her healing abilities and she died in childbirth.]]
*** [[spoiler: The real reason turns out to be Claire's son, who inadvertently stole her ability and left her unable to heal, resulting in her DeathByChildbirth.]]
Changed line(s) 17 (click to see context) from:
** Matt with his FaceHeelTurn. Now he is a selfish and jerk person motivated only by personal interest like his father in the original series. Seriously, compared to the NiceGuy who was in ''Series/{{Heroes}}'', he seems like two different characters!.
to:
** Matt with his FaceHeelTurn. Now he is a selfish and jerk person motivated only by personal interest like his father in the original series. Seriously, compared to the NiceGuy who was in ''Series/{{Heroes}}'', he seems like two different characters!.characters!
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 19 (click to see context) from:
* SpecialEffectsFailure: As is inevitable with a TV budget, even a huge one. Some of the power effect failures are things we have seen in the original series; for instance, multiple evo's powers in the first episode have a body-blurring effect that appears very similar to the one used on [[MasterofIllusion Candace Wilmer]] in Season 1. The pyrotechnics budget seems to be a bit smaller than in the first series, with more CG utilized than controlled burns. A butterfly that may or may not be significant as a motif in the plot appears this way too - it is very obviously CGI'd into the scenes it appears in. The storm that Malina calms at the end of "Sundae Bloody Sundae" looks more like an explosion of black smoke than either thunderclouds or a tornado. Don't even get me started on Phoebe's shadowy powers as "The Shadow".
to:
* SpecialEffectsFailure: As is inevitable with a TV budget, even a huge one. Some of the power effect failures are things we have seen in the original series; for instance, multiple evo's powers in the first episode have a body-blurring effect that appears very similar to the one used on [[MasterofIllusion Candace Wilmer]] in Season 1. The pyrotechnics budget seems to be a bit smaller than in the first series, with more CG utilized than controlled burns. A butterfly that may or may not be significant as a motif in the plot appears this way too - it is very obviously CGI'd into the scenes it appears in. The storm that Malina calms at the end of "Sundae Bloody Sundae" looks more like an explosion of black smoke than either thunderclouds or a tornado. Don't even get me started on [[CastingAShadow Phoebe's shadowy powers powers]] as "The Shadow".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 19 (click to see context) from:
* SpecialEffectsFailure: As is inevitable with a TV budget, even a huge one. Some of the power effect failures are things we have seen in the original series; for instance, multiple evo's powers in the first episode have a body-blurring effect that appears very similar to the one used on [[MasterofIllusion Candace Wilmer]] in Season 1. The pyrotechnics budget seems to be a bit smaller than in the first series, with more CG utilized than controlled burns. A butterfly that may or may not be significant as a motif in the plot appears this way too - it is very obviously CGI'd into the scenes it appears in. The storm that Malina calms at the end of "Sundae Bloody Sundae" looks more like an explosion of black smoke than either thunderclouds or a tornado. Don't even get me started on Phoebe's shadowy tendrils.
to:
* SpecialEffectsFailure: As is inevitable with a TV budget, even a huge one. Some of the power effect failures are things we have seen in the original series; for instance, multiple evo's powers in the first episode have a body-blurring effect that appears very similar to the one used on [[MasterofIllusion Candace Wilmer]] in Season 1. The pyrotechnics budget seems to be a bit smaller than in the first series, with more CG utilized than controlled burns. A butterfly that may or may not be significant as a motif in the plot appears this way too - it is very obviously CGI'd into the scenes it appears in. The storm that Malina calms at the end of "Sundae Bloody Sundae" looks more like an explosion of black smoke than either thunderclouds or a tornado. Don't even get me started on Phoebe's shadowy tendrils.powers as "The Shadow".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 11 (click to see context) from:
** [[spoiler:The way Phoebe [[CainAndAbel kills Quentin]]. She uses her shadows to restrain his hands and then sends a tendril down his throat to ''mutilate his internal organs!!'' Sister of the fucking year]].
to:
** [[spoiler:The way Phoebe The way, [[spoiler:Phoebe [[CainAndAbel kills Quentin]]. She uses her shadows to restrain his hands and then sends a tendril down his throat to ''mutilate do... something. It's not clear what exactly she does to kill him, but given that he's spilling blood, it's likely that she ''mutilated his internal organs!!'' Sister of the fucking year]].