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** ''VideoGame/GrandiaXtreme'' was praised for the battle system and for being more challenging than ''Grandia 2'', but it was also criticized for its plot and characters, and for some gameplay mechanics.

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** ''VideoGame/GrandiaXtreme'' was praised for the battle system and for being more challenging than ''Grandia 2'', but it was also criticized for its plot and characters, and for some gameplay mechanics.mechanics.
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** ''Videogame/GrandiaXtreme'' was praised for the higher difficulty was praised, but the plot and characters were seen as a letdown.

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** ''Videogame/GrandiaXtreme'' ''VideoGame/GrandiaXtreme'' was praised for the higher difficulty battle system and for being more challenging than ''Grandia 2'', but it was praised, but the also criticized for its plot and characters were seen as a letdown.characters, and for some gameplay mechanics.
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* ToughActToFollow: Any game released after the first two widely acclaimed ''Grandias''.
** Many fans were disappointed with the ''Videogame/GrandiaIII'' due to it being rushed and quite short by comparison [[ObviousBeta (which isn't helped by the fact that the game was going to be much longer and bigger than it ended up being),]] and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, the gameplay is excellent, just like with its predecessors.
** ''Videogame/GrandiaXtreme'' was praised for the higher difficulty was praised, but the plot and characters were seen as a letdown.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: After the tough fights against [[spoiler:Baal's last form and the Gaia Core, Gaia's]] second form is a total pushover as it only attacks the party with low-level spells like Snooze and can be easily bested with normal attacks. Of course, given the hell that the previous two boss fights feel like, it's like a breather after the real challenge, so it isn't that big of a deal.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** The soundtrack of the game is full of great music, but especially Theme of Grandia. Just listen to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiNEaNxOxo this]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd9NP0nWOTA The Edge of the World]] easily rivals the Theme of Grandia in awesomeness.
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHHbckifnqU Duel With Gadwin]]", which plays when Gadwin tests out Justin's strength for real.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4luHb6q09w Approaching Crisis,]] the theme mainly associated with [[spoiler:Gaia.]] The first half is used in events associated with it such as [[spoiler:the invasion at Zil Padon and when fighting the Gaia Battlers,]] and the second half is used as part of the FinalBoss theme.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AtOOxVjtSM Farewell to Sue]] is TearJerker in music form, which is played when Sue has to part ways with Justin as she can't continue with him.
** Any of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Q9vm_QUsM standard]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV0BzPBxC70 battle]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g themes,]] but especially the third one, which replaces the first two in Disc 2.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgzRPGTPZQw Four Volley Rounds of Tension]] is a mixture of four separate tracks, the first one being an event theme, the second being the battle theme for the [[TheEmpire Garlyle Forces]], the third one being the game's main boss battle theme and the fourth one being used when [[spoiler:Justin and Feena are about to get launched in a catapult.]]
** The FinalBoss [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BenF3aCCY theme]] is unique in that it's not its own track, but a mixture of several existing tracks in the game, including [[spoiler:Gaia's theme]] Approaching Crisis, which serves as the main basis for the track.
* GameBreaker:
** The ultimate attacks of Justin, Feena, and Rapp (Heaven and Earth Cut, End of the World, and Neo Demon Ball, respectively), ESPECIALLY when used all at once.
** Justin is a one-man army full of incredibly powerful special moves, has access to the best equipment, can make himself invincible, amazing stats, and a wide variety of magic only surpassed by Feena and [[spoiler: Liete.]] All for the small price of using axes (which grant strength and HP boosts) and maces (which grant HP and defense boosts). His Dragon Cut is also not only a very powerful attack that hits all enemies, but it makes training his weapons, Fire and Earth magic a breeze.
** Although Sue doesn't remain in your group for long, you can have some fun with her! Give her Fire and Earth ASAP, and learn her "Fight!" Cheer (it is the only Fire+Earth+Mace skill she has). Spam this over and over and over again (since the skill is used on allies and not enemies, it always skills up the same amount, and isn't subject to diminishing returns like offensive skills are) to end up with a Sue that can one-shot nearly anything. Since "Fight!" Cheer levels Fire, Earth, and Mace skills, she gets all of the stat bonuses from that, plus the added attack power of having a ridiculously high weapon skill. Also, her Defense and HP will be so high, that nothing will actually be capable of [=KOing=] her until she leaves your party.[[note]]Which actually makes it a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation, given her reason for leaving...[[/note]]
* HarsherInHindsight: One of the dungeons is called "The Twin Towers." Ring any bells?
* {{Narm}}: Plenty of the attack shouts, especially Justin's "Alright you guys, this is it! WAUAUGH!" In fact, most of the English voice acting counts due to its generally poor quality, especially when compared to the Japanese voice acting. This might be the reason why the next games had much better English acting.
* NightmareFuel: Abandoned Laine Village. We get a taste of what [[spoiler:Gaia]] can do with the Petrified Forest and the Tower of Doom, but once the party walks into the Abandoned Laine Village, they learn what [[spoiler:Gaia is really capable of. The entire place no longer resembles a something that should even exist. The space of the area itself has become warped, with doors leading to different locations in the area entirely through what are essentially portals. The petrified bodies of those who weren't able to escape before Gaia arrived are encased in floating, spinning crystals that are eternally suspended above a dark void.]]
** And Gaia itself.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g third battle theme]] has some similarities with "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z58BxC0KbeM Rupert's Travels]]", an instrumental track by the British rock band Gun.
* ThatOneBoss: Nana, Saki, and Mio are easy when alone, but when together they're quite a challenge.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Justin in the promotional art can be easily mistaken for a girl.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: After the tough fights against [[spoiler:Baal's last form and the Gaia Core, Gaia's]] second form is a total pushover as it only attacks the party !!Games with low-level spells like Snooze and can be easily bested with normal attacks. Of course, given the hell that the previous two boss fights feel like, it's like a breather after the real challenge, so it isn't that big of a deal.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** The soundtrack of the game is full of great music, but especially Theme of Grandia. Just listen to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiNEaNxOxo this]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd9NP0nWOTA The Edge of the World]] easily rivals the Theme of Grandia in awesomeness.
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHHbckifnqU Duel With Gadwin]]", which plays when Gadwin tests out Justin's strength for real.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4luHb6q09w Approaching Crisis,]] the theme mainly associated with [[spoiler:Gaia.]] The first half is used in events associated with it such as [[spoiler:the invasion at Zil Padon and when fighting the Gaia Battlers,]] and the second half is used as part of the FinalBoss theme.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AtOOxVjtSM Farewell to Sue]] is TearJerker in music form, which is played when Sue has to part ways with Justin as she can't continue with him.
** Any of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Q9vm_QUsM standard]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV0BzPBxC70 battle]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g themes,]] but especially the third one, which replaces the first two in Disc 2.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgzRPGTPZQw Four Volley Rounds of Tension]] is a mixture of four separate tracks, the first one being an event theme, the second being the battle theme for the [[TheEmpire Garlyle Forces]], the third one being the game's main boss battle theme and the fourth one being used when [[spoiler:Justin and Feena are about to get launched in a catapult.]]
** The FinalBoss [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BenF3aCCY theme]] is unique in that it's not its
their own track, but a mixture of several existing tracks in the game, including [[spoiler:Gaia's theme]] Approaching Crisis, which serves as the main basis for the track.
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* GameBreaker:
** The ultimate attacks of Justin, Feena, and Rapp (Heaven and Earth Cut, End of the World, and Neo Demon Ball, respectively), ESPECIALLY when used all at once.
** Justin is a one-man army full of incredibly powerful special moves, has access to the best equipment, can make himself invincible, amazing stats, and a wide variety of magic only surpassed by Feena and [[spoiler: Liete.]] All for the small price of using axes (which grant strength and HP boosts) and maces (which grant HP and defense boosts). His Dragon Cut is also not only a very powerful attack that hits all enemies, but it makes training his weapons, Fire and Earth magic a breeze.
** Although Sue doesn't remain in your group for long, you can have some fun with her! Give her Fire and Earth ASAP, and learn her "Fight!" Cheer (it is the only Fire+Earth+Mace skill she has). Spam this over and over and over again (since the skill is used on allies and not enemies, it always skills up the same amount, and isn't subject to diminishing returns like offensive skills are) to end up with a Sue that can one-shot nearly anything. Since "Fight!" Cheer levels Fire, Earth, and Mace skills, she gets all of the stat bonuses from that, plus the added attack power of having a ridiculously high weapon skill. Also, her Defense and HP will be so high, that nothing will actually be capable of [=KOing=] her until she leaves your party.[[note]]Which actually makes it a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation, given her reason for leaving...[[/note]]
''YMMV/Grandia1''
* HarsherInHindsight: One of the dungeons is called "The Twin Towers." Ring any bells?
''YMMV/GrandiaII''
* {{Narm}}: Plenty of the attack shouts, especially Justin's "Alright you guys, this is it! WAUAUGH!" In fact, most of the English voice acting counts due to its generally poor quality, especially when compared to the Japanese voice acting. This might be the reason why the next games had much better English acting.
''YMMV/GrandiaXtreme''
* NightmareFuel: Abandoned Laine Village. We get a taste of what [[spoiler:Gaia]] can do with the Petrified Forest and the Tower of Doom, but once the party walks into the Abandoned Laine Village, they learn what [[spoiler:Gaia is really capable of. The entire place no longer resembles a something that should even exist. The space of the area itself has become warped, with doors leading to different locations in the area entirely through what are essentially portals. The petrified bodies of those who weren't able to escape before Gaia arrived are encased in floating, spinning crystals that are eternally suspended above a dark void.]]
** And Gaia itself.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g third battle theme]] has some similarities with "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z58BxC0KbeM Rupert's Travels]]", an instrumental track by the British rock band Gun.
* ThatOneBoss: Nana, Saki, and Mio are easy when alone, but when together they're quite a challenge.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Justin in the promotional art can be easily mistaken for a girl.
''YMMV/GrandiaIII''
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** Although Sue doesn't remain in your group for long, you can have some fun with her! Give her Fire and Earth ASAP, and learn her "Fight!" Cheer (it is the only Fire+Earth+Mace skill she has). Spam this over and over and over again (since the skill is used on allies and not enemies, it always skills up the same amount, and isn't subject to diminishing returns like offensive skills are) to end up with a Sue (MarySue?) that can one-shot nearly anything. Since "Fight!" Cheer levels Fire, Earth, and Mace skills, she gets all of the stat bonuses from that, plus the added attack power of having a ridiculously high weapon skill. Also, her Defense and HP will be so high, that nothing will actually be capable of [=KOing=] her until she leaves your party.[[note]]Which actually makes it a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation, given her reason for leaving...[[/note]]

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** Although Sue doesn't remain in your group for long, you can have some fun with her! Give her Fire and Earth ASAP, and learn her "Fight!" Cheer (it is the only Fire+Earth+Mace skill she has). Spam this over and over and over again (since the skill is used on allies and not enemies, it always skills up the same amount, and isn't subject to diminishing returns like offensive skills are) to end up with a Sue (MarySue?) that can one-shot nearly anything. Since "Fight!" Cheer levels Fire, Earth, and Mace skills, she gets all of the stat bonuses from that, plus the added attack power of having a ridiculously high weapon skill. Also, her Defense and HP will be so high, that nothing will actually be capable of [=KOing=] her until she leaves your party.[[note]]Which actually makes it a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation, given her reason for leaving...[[/note]]

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** The FinalBoss [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BenF3aCCY theme]] is unique in that it's not it's own track, but a mixture of several existing tracks in the game, including [[spoiler:Gaia's theme]] Approaching Crisis, which serves as the main basis for the track.

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** The FinalBoss [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BenF3aCCY theme]] is unique in that it's not it's its own track, but a mixture of several existing tracks in the game, including [[spoiler:Gaia's theme]] Approaching Crisis, which serves as the main basis for the track.



* {{Narm}}: Plenty of the attack shouts, especially Justin's "Alright you guys, this is it! WAUAUGH!"
** In fact, most of the English voice acting counts due to it's generally poor quality, especially when compared to the Japanese voice acting. This might be the reason why the next games had much better English acting.

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* {{Narm}}: Plenty of the attack shouts, especially Justin's "Alright you guys, this is it! WAUAUGH!"
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WAUAUGH!" In fact, most of the English voice acting counts due to it's its generally poor quality, especially when compared to the Japanese voice acting. This might be the reason why the next games had much better English acting.
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** Any of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Q9vm_QUsM standard]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV0BzPBxC70 battle]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g themes,]] but the third one, which replaces the first two in Disc 2, in particular is especially great.

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** Any of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Q9vm_QUsM standard]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV0BzPBxC70 battle]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g themes,]] but especially the third one, which replaces the first two in Disc 2, in particular is especially great.2.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: After the tough fights against [[spoiler:Baal's last form and the Gaia Core, there's Gaia's]] second form, as it only attacks the party with low-level spells like Snooze and can be easily bested with normal attacks. Of course, given the hell that the previous two would give you, it feels like a breather after the real challenge.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: After the tough fights against [[spoiler:Baal's last form and the Gaia Core, there's Gaia's]] second form, form is a total pushover as it only attacks the party with low-level spells like Snooze and can be easily bested with normal attacks. Of course, given the hell that the previous two would give you, it feels boss fights feel like, it's like a breather after the real challenge.challenge, so it isn't that big of a deal.



** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHHbckifnqU Duel With Gadwin]]", which plays when Gadwin tests out Justin's strenght for real.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd9NP0nWOTA The Edge of the World]] easily rivals the Theme of Grandia in awesomeness.
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHHbckifnqU Duel With Gadwin]]", which plays when Gadwin tests out Justin's strenght strength for real.real.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4luHb6q09w Approaching Crisis,]] the theme mainly associated with [[spoiler:Gaia.]] The first half is used in events associated with it such as [[spoiler:the invasion at Zil Padon and when fighting the Gaia Battlers,]] and the second half is used as part of the FinalBoss theme.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AtOOxVjtSM Farewell to Sue]] is TearJerker in music form, which is played when Sue has to part ways with Justin as she can't continue with him.
** Any of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Q9vm_QUsM standard]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV0BzPBxC70 battle]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g themes,]] but the third one, which replaces the first two in Disc 2, in particular is especially great.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgzRPGTPZQw Four Volley Rounds of Tension]] is a mixture of four separate tracks, the first one being an event theme, the second being the battle theme for the [[TheEmpire Garlyle Forces]], the third one being the game's main boss battle theme and the fourth one being used when [[spoiler:Justin and Feena are about to get launched in a catapult.]]
** The FinalBoss [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BenF3aCCY theme]] is unique in that it's not it's own track, but a mixture of several existing tracks in the game, including [[spoiler:Gaia's theme]] Approaching Crisis, which serves as the main basis for the track.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: After the tough fights against [[spoiler:Baal's last form and the Gaia Core, there's Gaia's] second form, as it only attacks the party with low-level spells like Snooze and can be easily bested with normal attacks. Of course, given the hell that the previous two would give you, it feels like a breather after the real challenge.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: After the tough fights against [[spoiler:Baal's last form and the Gaia Core, there's Gaia's] Gaia's]] second form, as it only attacks the party with low-level spells like Snooze and can be easily bested with normal attacks. Of course, given the hell that the previous two would give you, it feels like a breather after the real challenge.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Gaia's]] second form, as it only attacks the party with low-level spells like Snooze and can be easily bested with normal attacks.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Gaia's]] After the tough fights against [[spoiler:Baal's last form and the Gaia Core, there's Gaia's] second form, as it only attacks the party with low-level spells like Snooze and can be easily bested with normal attacks.attacks. Of course, given the hell that the previous two would give you, it feels like a breather after the real challenge.


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* ThatOneBoss: Nana, Saki, and Mio are easy when alone, but when together they're quite a challenge.

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%%* * NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Gaia.]]Abandoned Laine Village. We get a taste of what [[spoiler:Gaia]] can do with the Petrified Forest and the Tower of Doom, but once the party walks into the Abandoned Laine Village, they learn what [[spoiler:Gaia is really capable of. The entire place no longer resembles a something that should even exist. The space of the area itself has become warped, with doors leading to different locations in the area entirely through what are essentially portals. The petrified bodies of those who weren't able to escape before Gaia arrived are encased in floating, spinning crystals that are eternally suspended above a dark void.]]
** And Gaia itself.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The soundtrack of the game is full of greatmusic, but especially Theme of Grandia. Just listen to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiNEaNxOxo this]].

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
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The soundtrack of the game is full of greatmusic, great music, but especially Theme of Grandia. Just listen to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiNEaNxOxo this]].

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The soundtrack of the game is full of [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome CMoA]], but especially Theme of Grandia. Just listen to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiNEaNxOxo this]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHHbckifnqU Duel With Gadwin]]
* GameBreaker: The ultimate attacks of Justin, Feena, and Rapp (Heaven and Earth Cut, End of the World, and Neo Demon Ball, respectively), ESPECIALLY when used all at once.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The soundtrack of the game is full of [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome CMoA]], greatmusic, but especially Theme of Grandia. Just listen to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiNEaNxOxo this]].
** [[https://www."[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHHbckifnqU Duel With Gadwin]]
Gadwin]]", which plays when Gadwin tests out Justin's strenght for real.
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The ultimate attacks of Justin, Feena, and Rapp (Heaven and Earth Cut, End of the World, and Neo Demon Ball, respectively), ESPECIALLY when used all at once.



* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Gaia.]]
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g third battle theme]] has some similarities with "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z58BxC0KbeM Rupert's Travels]]", an instrumental song by the British rock band Gun.

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* %%* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Gaia.]]
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g third battle theme]] has some similarities with "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z58BxC0KbeM Rupert's Travels]]", an instrumental song track by the British rock band Gun.

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