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** For a long time, Earth is joked as the most neglected element of Cygames due to how it receives characters at an infrequent pace, and the characters usually end up mediocre or locked behind a limited banner. This even extends to other Cygames titles as they have the exact same ElementalRockPaperScissors chart except for Earth, which is either left out (''Dragalia Lost'') or replaced entirely (''World Flipper'', in which it's been swapped out for Lightning). It says something that the best Earth character is not even a character, but a '''mainhand weapon''' for the captain to use.
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** For a long time, Earth is joked as the most neglected element of Cygames due to how it receives characters at an infrequent pace, and the characters usually end up mediocre or locked behind a limited banner. This even extends to other Cygames titles as they have the exact same ElementalRockPaperScissors chart except for Earth, which is either left out (''Dragalia Lost'') or replaced entirely (''World Flipper'', in which it's been swapped out for Lightning). It doesn't help that in comparison of other element, Earth Bosses are usually much easier or at least has less gimmicky strategy like [[MemeticPsychopath Water]] does (Yggdrasil Omega main gimmick can be easily ignored with Veil, Alexiel strategy can be easily trivialized with one well-placed dispel, there are many Wind characters that's perfectly tailored against Galleon and Phronesis like Yurius and V!Grimnir, while Bennu is a relatively straightforward boss battle) with only the likes of Siegfried and Uriel that actually poses some challenge. It says something that the best Earth character is not even a character, but a '''mainhand weapon''' for the captain to use.use (at least until Uriel came to being).
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler: Given their connection to Bahamut and the fact that they are among the oldest creatures in the Granblue Fantasy universe, you would expect Lucio and Helel ben Shalem to be given far more lore weight and to play a larger role in the story than simply acting like retired Primarchs, but you would be mistaken. Lucio is an especially egregious example, as he was left out to dry just three months after his playable unit was released to usher in the real Lucifer and his crew. Until "000", he wouldn't appear at any events, with his main contributions to the event being his lore-dumping and making Lucilius a bigger problem than he would have been if he hadn't confronted him and allowed himself to be absorbed. From that point on, he would be reduced to a gag character that borders on an uncomfortable stalker whose primary role is to harass Sandalphon while Lucifer is gone. On the other hand, Helel ben Shalem would be revealed, adding more lore implications to his existence as well as Beelzebub's and the Granblue world's overall... and after that they'd both be reduced to unserious joke roles. Since then, the most either of them has done was destroy Pandemonium, which only created more problems for Sandalphon to fix for them]].
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** [[spoiler: The 10th anniversary event "Heart of the Sun" literally set up a perfectly good opportunity to resurrect Lucifer from the dead, with Raziel, another one of his creations introduced in the event, even outright saying it was her goal in Part 3, with all she needed was a Phoenix tear and Lucifer's head to restore him to his original state. Then, for reasons that make no logical sense, the event goes to great lengths to prevent from actually being able to do it: Sandalphon, of all characters, who had spent years pining for Lucifer and expressing a desire to be reunited with him, suddenly become enraged at her for even raising the possibility of resurrecting him and "disturbing Lucifer's rest," treating the proposal like a sinful idea, and also refusing to disclose the location of Lucifer's head. Then the Phoenix itself, who Lucifer had watched from afar and trusted, is revealed to be a lying manipulator who never had any intention of giving Raziel her tears after stringing her along for hundreds of years in a false friendship. The event ends with Raziel still being determined to resurrect Lucifer in her own way... making the fact that the event proposed a way to resurrect Lucifer in the first place pointless since it was AllForNothing in the end and essentially a glorified way to make Raziel, another one of his creations, playable in a similar way to Sandalphon, with both even being free Light units on debut. It especially angered people that, aside from the bad writing overall, this was a 10th anniversary, which would have been one of the best opportunities to resurrect the character that people had been asking for for years at that point]].
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** Some players interpret post-"000" Lucio's behavior toward Sandalphon as being more malicious than was likely intended. [[spoiler: After all, outside of the instances in which Sandalphon snaps at Lucio for doing his own thing solely because of him looking like Lucifer, there are quite a few occasions in which his attitude toward Lucio is justified, ''especially'' in his summer Fate Episodes where Lucio acts like a StalkerWithoutACrush (Or with, depending on your interpretation) who has no regard for Sandalphon's feelings or personal space, despite the fact that the latter had been likened to a grieving widow in his ''own'' summer Fate Episodes. His later explanation could also be interpreted as him gaslighting and guilt-tripping Sandalphon into accepting him for who he is rather than viewing him as a copy of Lucifer, the sentiment which would have been fine if the audience didn't already know [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic that he has a true form that looks less like Lucifer that he could change into at will]] as was revealed in "000", as well as the fact that Shalem walks around in her own true form with little issue. And then there's the fact that a lot of the issues between him and Sandalphon could be resolved if he didn't feign ignorance to the reason he and Lucifer look the same and simply explained why they look the same, which he doesn't do for unknown reasons]].
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** Some players interpret post-"000" Lucio's behavior toward Sandalphon as being more malicious than was likely intended. [[spoiler: After all, outside of the instances in which Sandalphon snaps at Lucio for doing his own thing solely because of him looking like Lucifer, there are quite a few occasions in which his attitude toward Lucio is justified, ''especially'' in his summer Fate Episodes where Lucio acts like a StalkerWithoutACrush (Or with, depending on your interpretation) who has no regard for Sandalphon's feelings or personal space, despite the fact that the latter had been likened to a grieving widow in his ''own'' summer Fate Episodes. His later explanation could also be interpreted as him gaslighting and guilt-tripping Sandalphon into accepting him for who he is rather than viewing him as a copy of Lucifer, the sentiment which would have been fine if the audience didn't already know [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic that he has a true form that looks less like Lucifer that he could change into at will]] as was revealed in "000", as well as the fact that Shalem walks around in her own true form with little issue. And then there's the fact that a lot of the issues between him and Sandalphon could be resolved if he didn't feign ignorance to the reason he and Lucifer look the same and simply explained why they look the same, which he doesn't do for unknown reasons]].reasons. The innocence of his actions is particularly called into question in the event "Heart of the Sun," when he confesses to Sandalphon that he had hoped to greet him with a "Welcome home" similar to how he would greet Lucifer, simply out of habit since they share a similar appearance. This is especially creepy not only because he had hoped to use his similarity in appearance to Sandalphon's dead loved one to gain some sort of validation from the man he is essentially stalking, but also because he was long aware aware of the weight of Sandalphon's grief--that he hasn't moved on from, mind you--and pulled this anyway, as if he hadn't learned anything from their heart-to-heart in his Summer fate episode. Naturally, since every time Lucio does this it's meant to be PlayedForLaughs, he once again isn't called out on how unsettling his behavior is and it's quickly moved on from]].
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** ''Granblue'' fans have speculated a FightingGame spin-off even before ''VideoGame/GranblueFantasyVersus'' was announced at Cygames Fes 2018. The gacha game had several "hints" on catering towards the UsefulNotes/FightingGameCommunity; from the ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' {{crossover}} events, the ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' [[ShoutOut references]] in the Divine Generals' [[LimitBreak Charge Attacks]], character skills (such as Zeta's and Vaseraga's) having [[ShoutOutThemeNaming heavy metal references]] like how ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'' does, the "A Thousand Reasons" event being a melee-based TournamentArc, to Creator/{{Cygames}} sponsoring EVO 2018.
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** ''Granblue'' fans have speculated a FightingGame spin-off even before ''VideoGame/GranblueFantasyVersus'' was announced at Cygames Fes 2018. The gacha game had several "hints" on catering towards the UsefulNotes/FightingGameCommunity; MediaNotes/FightingGameCommunity; from the ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' {{crossover}} events, the ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' [[ShoutOut references]] in the Divine Generals' [[LimitBreak Charge Attacks]], character skills (such as Zeta's and Vaseraga's) having [[ShoutOutThemeNaming heavy metal references]] like how ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'' does, the "A Thousand Reasons" event being a melee-based TournamentArc, to Creator/{{Cygames}} sponsoring EVO 2018.
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I'm unsure if my edit reason was stated here before, but you can check the imgur link here to see what was actually being said about Satyr.
I'm unsure if my edit reason was stated here before, but you can check the imgur link here to see what was actually being said about Satyr.Things were alot bigger than it was stated here as it was within the scope of someone who hasn't really seen what was actually going on. Such as the "rift" that was stated here. There is only a "rift" between the people who know what Satyr actually is as a character, seeing her for how she is in the game as a biological woman. And the ones seeing her as a futa or trans are one in the same, being absolutely obnoxious and a toxic cancer to the community. All the while taking advantage of the people who don't decide to respond to their craziness. Because all in the process of that, their information gets put to the forefront of things like its true. The same things happen in Japan, and people there actually don't like that. People lying about her. They then get called people akin to tourists who don't play the game. So this is why I am removing the things said here to stop the spread of false things about her.
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I am removing the things said here regarding the ridiculous nonsense people had about Satyr. The truth of the matter is that this "rift" between those who thought she was "trans" and a "futa" is not the true "rift" here. Because those two groups are one in the same. Pushing something for the sake of a fetish, and projection. The actual rift was between those who actually knew that nothing was really saying that of Satyr in the first place while being just created in the form of a biological woman by the Astrals. On the other side of that rift were the people I just spoke about, the ones too drunk off porn that they cannot distinguish the facts from reality. When presented with the truth from those who actually read the game's lore, they will attempt to brand you a "phobia" and get upset. A testament to their sensitivity and showing an abnormal obsession over male genitalia on her while attributing it to her entire character. They also go as far as tricking others into thinking she is like that.
This is also a prevalent issue in Japan. People in the west convinced themselves that people in JP like that futa nonsense too, but in reality, they suffer from the same things of people being obnoxious when it comes to her. Those things even ruining conversations. A person in Japan made a lore video on Satyr which is the true thing that spurred everything, and the west emulated that + people who had misunderstandings. This is why I have attempted to erase things here in order to stop the spread of this garbage.
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I am removing the things said here regarding the ridiculous nonsense people had about Satyr. The truth of the matter is that this "rift" between those who thought she was "trans" and a "futa" is not the true "rift" here. Because those two groups are one in the same. Pushing something for the sake of a fetish, and projection. The actual rift was between those who actually knew that nothing was really saying that of Satyr in the first place while being just created in the form of a biological woman by the Astrals. On the other side of that rift were the people I just spoke about, the ones too drunk off porn that they cannot distinguish the facts from reality. When presented with the truth from those who actually read the game's lore, they will attempt to brand you a "phobia" and get upset. A testament to their sensitivity and showing an abnormal obsession over male genitalia on her while attributing it to her entire character. They also go as far as tricking others into thinking she is like that.
This is also a prevalent issue in Japan. People in the west convinced themselves that people in JP like that futa nonsense too, but in reality, they suffer from the same things of people being obnoxious when it comes to her. Those things even ruining conversations. A person in Japan made a lore video on Satyr which is the true thing that spurred everything, and the west emulated that + people who had misunderstandings. This is why I have attempted to erase things here in order to stop the spread of this garbage.
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** Satyr. Because of one [[EpilepticTrees bizzare fan theory]] in the "Primal Resonance" event that begs the question of what her "incomprehensible characteristics" are, we have a rift from fans who claim that Satyr is a Futanari VS. those who claim that Satyr is not a Futanari. Even if it's treated as a joke, it had detractors for being an absurd joke.
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** Because whatever "incomprehensible characteristics" Satyr is implied to have are [[TheUnReveal never revealed]] in the "Primal Resonance" event (as Medusa is cut off before she can go into detail), some fans have supposed or joked that Satyr is a Futanari, due to the lore behind her [[FaunsAndSatyrs namesake]]. There are detractors of this idea however, making Satyr a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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I am removing the things said here regarding the ridiculous nonsense people had about Satyr. The truth of the matter is that this "rift" between those who thought she was "trans" and a "futa" is not the true "rift" here. Because those two groups are one in the same. Pushing something for the sake of a fetish, and projection. The actual rift was between those who actually knew that nothing was really saying that of Satyr in the first place while being just created in the form of a biological woman by the Astrals. On the other side of that rift were the people I just spoke about, the ones too drunk off porn that they cannot distinguish the facts from reality. When presented with the truth from those who actually read the game's lore, they will attempt to brand you a "phobia" and get upset. A testament to their sensitivity and showing an abnormal obsession over male genitalia on her while attributing it to her entire character. They also go as far as tricking others into thinking she is like that.
This is also a prevalent issue in Japan. People in the west convinced themselves that people in JP like that futa nonsense too, but in reality, they suffer from the same things of people being obnoxious when it comes to her. Those things even ruining conversations. A person in Japan made a lore video on Satyr which is the true thing that spurred everything, and the west emulated that + people who had misunderstandings. This is why I have attempted to erase things here in order to stop the spread of this garbage.
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** Satyr. Because of one [[EpilepticTrees bizzare fan theory]] in the "Primal Resonance" event that begs the question of what her "incomprehensible characteristics" are, we have a rift from fans who claim that Satyr is a Futanari VS. those who claim that Satyr is not a Futanari. Even if it's treated as a joke, it had detractors for being an absurd joke.
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** Because whatever "incomprehensible characteristics" Satyr is implied to have are [[TheUnReveal never revealed]] in the "Primal Resonance" event (as Medusa is cut off before she can go into detail), some fans have supposed or joked that Satyr is a Futanari, due to the lore behind her [[FaunsAndSatyrs namesake]]. There are detractors of this idea however, making Satyr a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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I am removing the things said here regarding the ridiculous nonsense people had about Satyr. The truth of the matter is that this "rift" between those who thought she was "trans" and a "futa" is not the true "rift" here. Because those two groups are one in the same. Pushing something for the sake of a fetish, and projection. The actual rift was between those who actually knew that nothing was really saying that of Satyr in the first place while being just created in the form of a biological woman by the Astrals. On the other side of that rift were the people I just spoke about, the ones too drunk off porn that they cannot distinguish the facts from reality. When presented with the truth from those who actually read the game's lore, they will attempt to brand you a "phobia" and get upset. A testament to their sensitivity and showing an abnormal obsession over male genitalia on her while attributing it to her entire character. They also go as far as tricking others into thinking she is like that.
This is also a prevalent issue in Japan. People in the west convinced themselves that people in JP like that futa nonsense too, but in reality, they suffer from the same things of people being obnoxious when it comes to her. Those things even ruining conversations. A person in Japan made a lore video on Satyr which is the true thing that spurred everything, and the west emulated that + people who had misunderstandings. This is why I have attempted to erase things here in order to stop the spread of this garbage.
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** Satyr. Because of one [[EpilepticTrees bizzare fan theory]] in the "Primal Resonance" event that begs the question of what her "incomprehensible characteristics" are, we have a rift from fans who claim that Satyr is a Futanari VS. those who claim that Satyr is not a Futanari. Even if it's treated as a joke, it had detractors for being an absurd joke.
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** Because whatever "incomprehensible characteristics" Satyr is implied to have are [[TheUnReveal never revealed]] in the "Primal Resonance" event (as Medusa is cut off before she can go into detail), some fans have supposed or joked that Satyr is a Futanari, due to the lore behind her [[FaunsAndSatyrs namesake]]. There are detractors of this idea however, making Satyr a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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I am removing the things said here regarding the ridiculous nonsense people had about Satyr. The truth of the matter is that this "rift" between those who thought she was "trans" and a "futa" is not the true "rift" here. Because those two groups are one in the same. Pushing something for the sake of a fetish, and projection. The actual rift was between those who actually knew that nothing was really saying that of Satyr in the first place while being just created in the form of a biological woman by the Astrals. On the other side of that rift were the people I just spoke about, the ones too drunk off porn that they cannot distinguish the facts from reality. When presented with the truth from those who actually read the game's lore, they will attempt to brand you a "phobia" and get upset. A testament to their sensitivity and showing an abnormal obsession over male genitalia on her while attributing it to her entire character. They also go as far as tricking others into thinking she is like that.
This is also a prevalent issue in Japan. People in the west convinced themselves that people in JP like that futa nonsense too, but in reality, they suffer from the same things of people being obnoxious when it comes to her. Those things even ruining conversations. A person in Japan made a lore video on Satyr which is the true thing that spurred everything, and the west emulated that + people who had misunderstandings. This is why I have attempted to erase things here in order to stop the spread of this garbage.
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** Satyr. Because of one [[EpilepticTrees bizzare fan theory]] in the "Primal Resonance" event that begs the question of what her "incomprehensible characteristics" are, we have a rift from fans who claim that Satyr is a Futanari VS. those who claim that Satyr is not a Futanari. Even if it's treated as a joke, it had detractors for being an absurd joke.
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** Because whatever "incomprehensible characteristics" Satyr is implied to have are [[TheUnReveal never revealed]] in the "Primal Resonance" event (as Medusa is cut off before she can go into detail), some fans have supposed or joked that Satyr is a Futanari, due to the lore behind her [[FaunsAndSatyrs namesake]]. There are detractors of this idea however, making Satyr a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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I am removing the things said here regarding the ridiculous nonsense people had about Satyr. The truth of the matter is that this "rift" between those who thought she was "trans" and a "futa" is not the true "rift" here. Because those two groups are one in the same. Pushing something for the sake of a fetish, and projection. The actual rift was between those who actually knew that nothing was really saying that of Satyr in the first place while being just created in the form of a biological woman by the Astrals. On the other side of that rift were the people I just spoke about, the ones too drunk off porn that they cannot distinguish the facts from reality. When presented with the truth from those who actually read the game's lore, they will attempt to brand you a "phobia" and get upset. A testament to their sensitivity and showing an abnormal obsession over male genitalia on her while attributing it to her entire character. They also go as far as tricking others into thinking she is like that.
This is also a prevalent issue in Japan. People in the west convinced themselves that people in JP like that futa nonsense too, but in reality, they suffer from the same things of people being obnoxious when it comes to her. Those things even ruining conversations. A person in Japan made a lore video on Satyr which is the true thing that spurred everything, and the west emulated that + people who had misunderstandings. This is why I have attempted to erase things here in order to stop the spread of this garbage.
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** Satyr. Because of one [[EpilepticTrees bizzare fan theory]] in the "Primal Resonance" event that begs the question of what her "incomprehensible characteristics" are, we have a rift from fans who claim that Satyr is a Futanari VS. those who claim that Satyr is not a Futanari. Even if it's treated as a joke, it had detractors for being an absurd joke.
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** Because whatever "incomprehensible characteristics" Satyr is implied to have are [[TheUnReveal never revealed]] in the "Primal Resonance" event (as Medusa is cut off before she can go into detail), some fans have supposed or joked that Satyr is a Futanari, due to the lore behind her [[FaunsAndSatyrs namesake]]. There are detractors of this idea however, making Satyr a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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** Prince Ceodric from the "Heart of The Sun" event. Already an unpopular addition the event, Ceodric managed to quickly gained hatedom for basically dragging the event down by taking Phoenix's advice at face value and [[TrappedByMountainLions instigating another conflict between him and the captain for completely irrelevant reasons]], essentially adding himself and his kingdom into another rogue faction to the MeleeATrois aiming for Captain's head and Phoenix's seemingly omnipotent powers, only for it to failed miserably as he was quickly dealt with by Seofon. That, and his treatment to Sabrina, seals his fate as an irrelevant tryhard that tries too hard to be relevant by the fans, being a scapegoat that mar the otherwise fantastic anniversary event.
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** Prince Ceodric from the "Heart of The Sun" event. Already an unpopular addition the event, Ceodric managed to quickly gained hatedom for basically dragging the event down by taking Phoenix's advice at face value and [[TrappedByMountainLions instigating another conflict between him and the captain for completely irrelevant reasons]], essentially adding himself and his kingdom into another rogue faction to the MeleeATrois aiming for the Captain's head and Phoenix's seemingly omnipotent powers, only for it to failed fail miserably as he was quickly dealt with by Seofon. Seofon and given a well-deserved UndignifiedDeath at Sabrina's hands. That, and his treatment to of Sabrina, seals his fate as an irrelevant tryhard that tries too hard to be relevant by the fans, being a scapegoat that mar marred the otherwise fantastic anniversary event.
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** The Trial Mode for raids, which was intended for players to practice difficult raids without wasting valuable host materials and attempts, was immediately declared dead on arrival due to its unbelievably ''awful'' implementation. In spite of being only a practice mode, it can only be used ''twice a day regardless of the raid,'' which defeats the purpose of a practice mode to begin with. And these trial attempts are used up as soon as you enter the raid, so if you picked the wrong raid and left, you're not getting your attempt back. And to top it off, you cannot use a friend support summon unless you drag a friend along to waste their practice attempt with you. Even worse is that on release, Super Ultimate Bahamut, currently the hardest endgame raid in the game, wasn't even available as an option for practice.
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** The Trial Mode for raids, which was intended for players to practice difficult raids without wasting valuable host materials and attempts, was immediately declared dead on arrival due to its unbelievably ''awful'' implementation. In spite of being only a practice mode, it can only be used ''twice a day regardless of the raid,'' which defeats the purpose of a practice mode to begin with. And these trial attempts are used up as soon as you enter the raid, so if you picked the wrong raid and left, you're not getting your attempt back. And to top it off, you cannot use a friend support summon unless you drag a friend along to waste their practice attempt with you. Even worse is that on release, Super Ultimate Bahamut, currently among the hardest endgame raid raids in the game, wasn't even available as an option for practice.
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** Sara is perhaps the first significantly-improved character, although her whole odyssey happened before English-speaking fans noticed ''Granblue''. When she was first released, she was hated for being terribly-designed, especially since she was the free event character and was considered weaker than the gacha characters. Her SSR version came out months later and was ''so'' damn good, she utterly defined the tank archetype in ''Granblue'. SSR Sara's art and story were also well-received and considered as improvements to the first version.
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** Sara is perhaps the first significantly-improved character, although her whole odyssey happened before English-speaking fans noticed ''Granblue''. When she was first released, she was hated for being terribly-designed, especially since she was the free event character and was considered weaker than the gacha characters. Her SSR version came out months later and was ''so'' damn good, she utterly defined the tank archetype in ''Granblue'. SSR Sara's art and story were also well-received and considered as improvements to the first version. After being dragged down due to power creep, Sara finally receives a 5★ uncap that really helps her a lot as a tank in earth endgame compositions.
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** The original Fire Zeta was considered an underwhelming One-trick pony Break Assassin who has niche uses, since her main Break gimmick was practically useless against most HL bosses as they can immediately reset their Mode Bar on certain HP thresholds. With the "Spaghetti Syndrome" event, Zeta received her 5★ uncap, plus various revamps such as the Arvess Fermare debuff, and a powerful skill that can deal up to a million Plain Damage. Overall, Zeta became a more versatile attacker than before.
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** The original Fire Zeta was considered an underwhelming One-trick pony Break Assassin who has niche uses, since her main Break gimmick was practically useless against most HL bosses as they can immediately reset their Mode Bar on certain HP thresholds. With the "Spaghetti Syndrome" event, Zeta received her 5★ uncap, plus various revamps such as the Arvess Fermare debuff, and a powerful skill that can deal up to a million Plain Damage. Damage, delay, and dispel, which can be activated twice thanks to her passive. Overall, Zeta became a more versatile attacker than before.before.
** Aletheia was one of the oldest character ever released in the game, and it shows. His super simplistic kit with straightforward offense [[CrutchCharacter makes him a good character for farming early game contents like Omega raids and such, but quickly falls off anywhere further]] due to [[CripplingOverspecialization being too reliant on skill damage and charge attack for damage and not bringing much else onto the table]]. The fact that Cygames were reluctant to update him for a long time [[DueToTheDead due to Chikao Ohtsuka's untimely passing]] doesn't help, further leaving him behind the power creep. Eventually Cygames decided to gave the old man another chance to shine and reworking him as well as giving him the 5★ uncap he deserves, which not only boosts his firepower even further to the game's current standard, but also giving him slew of useful utilities such as dispel and plain damage onto the table, which not only making him even better for his previous roles, but also makes him a viable problem solver when dispelling is needed, since with the right setup he can easily dispel up to three buffs in two turns. His newfound power is enough to make him one of the best non-limited character to be used on Earth Unite and Fight honor grinding as well as dispelling nasty local buffs from the current bosses.
** Chat Noir was derided by the playerbase as being one of the worst SSR character for Water elemental due to how gimmicky and underwhelming it was. It essentially relies on casting a personal buff, landing a delay to an enemy, then use charge attack to inflict random debuff to your opponents. Thing is, the debuff that he will inflict is RNG based, and only one of them that's remotely useful, which only has a small percentage of it to trigger. This makes him one of the most unreliable debuffer in the game. Because of this, Chat Noir receives many buffs and reworks that tries to elevate him back to relevancy and make his gimmick feasible in the modern era, but none of the attempt works. It's not until the May 2022 Balance patch that they realize his old gimmick is just not worth to be kept on the game, being reworked for the last time and turning the gimmicky Forewarning and Riddle playstyle into a more straightforward debuffer, with Challenge Card inflicting a permanent debuff and also granting a single-target mist with decent accuracy, his Riddle effect being reworked into a stackable buff that grants him extra parameters, and all of his three riddle based debuffs were moved to his third skill, where you can choose between one of three different debuffs that you want to inflict to your enemy in a generous six-turn cooldown. Overall, Chat Noir's outing is much more useful and reliable than his previous iterations, even if he's not the best for his role.
** Aletheia was one of the oldest character ever released in the game, and it shows. His super simplistic kit with straightforward offense [[CrutchCharacter makes him a good character for farming early game contents like Omega raids and such, but quickly falls off anywhere further]] due to [[CripplingOverspecialization being too reliant on skill damage and charge attack for damage and not bringing much else onto the table]]. The fact that Cygames were reluctant to update him for a long time [[DueToTheDead due to Chikao Ohtsuka's untimely passing]] doesn't help, further leaving him behind the power creep. Eventually Cygames decided to gave the old man another chance to shine and reworking him as well as giving him the 5★ uncap he deserves, which not only boosts his firepower even further to the game's current standard, but also giving him slew of useful utilities such as dispel and plain damage onto the table, which not only making him even better for his previous roles, but also makes him a viable problem solver when dispelling is needed, since with the right setup he can easily dispel up to three buffs in two turns. His newfound power is enough to make him one of the best non-limited character to be used on Earth Unite and Fight honor grinding as well as dispelling nasty local buffs from the current bosses.
** Chat Noir was derided by the playerbase as being one of the worst SSR character for Water elemental due to how gimmicky and underwhelming it was. It essentially relies on casting a personal buff, landing a delay to an enemy, then use charge attack to inflict random debuff to your opponents. Thing is, the debuff that he will inflict is RNG based, and only one of them that's remotely useful, which only has a small percentage of it to trigger. This makes him one of the most unreliable debuffer in the game. Because of this, Chat Noir receives many buffs and reworks that tries to elevate him back to relevancy and make his gimmick feasible in the modern era, but none of the attempt works. It's not until the May 2022 Balance patch that they realize his old gimmick is just not worth to be kept on the game, being reworked for the last time and turning the gimmicky Forewarning and Riddle playstyle into a more straightforward debuffer, with Challenge Card inflicting a permanent debuff and also granting a single-target mist with decent accuracy, his Riddle effect being reworked into a stackable buff that grants him extra parameters, and all of his three riddle based debuffs were moved to his third skill, where you can choose between one of three different debuffs that you want to inflict to your enemy in a generous six-turn cooldown. Overall, Chat Noir's outing is much more useful and reliable than his previous iterations, even if he's not the best for his role.
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* TheScrappy: Rei, who debuted in "Seeds of Redemption" and was promptly put in the gacha as a Premium Gala Grand (which is predominantly for plot-important characters and Zodiacs) was very poorly received. The biggest reasons are her role in the event, where her exclusive role was being a DeusExMachina, and her personality being just a collection of Sueish traits. Namely, she's: LastOfHerKind, has psychic powers tied to her special eyes that are ''also'' omniscient, on par with or stronger than the Eternals, the head of a NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters mafia group despite having purely altruistic views, she's immortal, and most bizarrely, she's fetishized[[note]]mind control, "mommydom", not helped by literally being called "Mother" by her subordinates, she wears a school swimsuit-looking outfit for some reason, and her uncap has a boobs and butt pose[[/note]], and that her toolkit is designed to augment other characters, thus never be power crept and always relevant, doesn't help her case on her traits.
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** Rei, who debuted in "Seeds of Redemption" and was promptly put in the gacha as a Premium Gala Grand (which is predominantly for plot-important characters and Zodiacs) was very poorly received. The biggest reasons are her role in the event, where her exclusive role was being a DeusExMachina, and her personality being just a collection of Sueish traits. Namely, she's: LastOfHerKind, has psychic powers tied to her special eyes that are ''also'' omniscient, on par with or stronger than the Eternals, the head of a NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters mafia group despite having purely altruistic views, she's immortal, and most bizarrely, she's fetishized[[note]]mind control, "mommydom", not helped by literally being called "Mother" by her subordinates, she wears a school swimsuit-looking outfit for some reason, and her uncap has a boobs and butt pose[[/note]], and that her toolkit is designed to augment other characters, thus never be power crept and always relevant, doesn't help her case on hertraits.traits.
** Prince Ceodric from the "Heart of The Sun" event. Already an unpopular addition the event, Ceodric managed to quickly gained hatedom for basically dragging the event down by taking Phoenix's advice at face value and [[TrappedByMountainLions instigating another conflict between him and the captain for completely irrelevant reasons]], essentially adding himself and his kingdom into another rogue faction to the MeleeATrois aiming for Captain's head and Phoenix's seemingly omnipotent powers, only for it to failed miserably as he was quickly dealt with by Seofon. That, and his treatment to Sabrina, seals his fate as an irrelevant tryhard that tries too hard to be relevant by the fans, being a scapegoat that mar the otherwise fantastic anniversary event.
** Rei, who debuted in "Seeds of Redemption" and was promptly put in the gacha as a Premium Gala Grand (which is predominantly for plot-important characters and Zodiacs) was very poorly received. The biggest reasons are her role in the event, where her exclusive role was being a DeusExMachina, and her personality being just a collection of Sueish traits. Namely, she's: LastOfHerKind, has psychic powers tied to her special eyes that are ''also'' omniscient, on par with or stronger than the Eternals, the head of a NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters mafia group despite having purely altruistic views, she's immortal, and most bizarrely, she's fetishized[[note]]mind control, "mommydom", not helped by literally being called "Mother" by her subordinates, she wears a school swimsuit-looking outfit for some reason, and her uncap has a boobs and butt pose[[/note]], and that her toolkit is designed to augment other characters, thus never be power crept and always relevant, doesn't help her case on her
** Prince Ceodric from the "Heart of The Sun" event. Already an unpopular addition the event, Ceodric managed to quickly gained hatedom for basically dragging the event down by taking Phoenix's advice at face value and [[TrappedByMountainLions instigating another conflict between him and the captain for completely irrelevant reasons]], essentially adding himself and his kingdom into another rogue faction to the MeleeATrois aiming for Captain's head and Phoenix's seemingly omnipotent powers, only for it to failed miserably as he was quickly dealt with by Seofon. That, and his treatment to Sabrina, seals his fate as an irrelevant tryhard that tries too hard to be relevant by the fans, being a scapegoat that mar the otherwise fantastic anniversary event.
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** Ceodric from "The Heart of the Sun" lost respect from many players as the event story update continues as [[spoiler:he not only never loved Sabrina, his main goal was ultimately to prove superiority against her out of envy, and also to Seofon whom he had a grudge on for not doing anything when an epidemic hit his kingdom and took his mother's life, believing Seofon to be hoarding on power for the sake of so-called fairness. He later went on to claim Sabrina a cheater due to learning the revelation that Sabrina is the reincarnation of Abramelin's lover, his actions and motive instead coming off as too entitled and misogynistic.]]
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** Ceodric from "The Heart of the Sun" lost respect from many players as the event story update continues as [[spoiler:he not only never loved Sabrina, his main goal was ultimately to prove superiority against her out of envy, and also to Seofon whom he had a grudge on for not doing anything when an epidemic hit his kingdom and took his mother's life, believing Seofon to be hoarding on power for the sake of so-called fairness. He later went on to claim Sabrina a cheater due to learning the revelation that Sabrina is the reincarnation of Abramelin's lover, his actions and motive instead coming off as too entitled and misogynistic. His hypocrisy of his claims and grudge against Seofon while being a prince himself also made players see him as a power-hungry bastard on a power high trip on top of that, with these players rejoicing when they saw that Sabrina killed him in retaliation of his murder of Fenie.]]
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** Ceodric from "The Heart of the Sun" lost respect from many players as the event story update continues as [[spoiler:he not only never loved Sabrina, his main goal was ultimately to prove superiority against her out of envy, and also to Seofon whom he had a grudge on for not doing anything when an epidemic hit his kingdom and took his mother's life, believing Seofon to be hoarding on power for the sake of so-called fairness. He later went on to claim Sabrina a cheater due to learning the revelation that Sabrina is the reincarnation of Abramelin's lover, his actions and motive instead coming off as too entitled and misogynistic.]]
