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Evil Is Sexy TRS; this has become an objective, in-universe trope.
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Evil Is Sexy TRS; this has become an objective, in-universe trope.


* EvilIsSexy: Der Tod's evilness is as much up for debate as his sexiness.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The Thun production is weird even by the standards of this show.
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** The Toho productions give Death a shirt that's almost completely open at the front, and give the Todesengels outfits that invoke BareYourMidriff.

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** The Toho productions give Death a shirt that's almost completely open at the front, and give the Todesengels outfits that invoke BareYourMidriff.bare their midriffs.
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** The Lithuanian production has Death wearing black leather pants with a highly exaggerated high waist, a black leather duster [[WalkingShirtlessScene and nothing else]]. And half his face is covered in gold paint and what looks like sequins or fake glass squares.

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* IronWoobie: Franz Josef gets this ''big time.'' After what happened to him in real life during ''and'' after his time with Sisi, could you really blame him?

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Franz Josef gets this ''big time.'' After what happened to him in real life during ''and'' after his time with Sisi, could you really blame him?

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* {{Narm}}: The gunshot sound during Takarazuka Mayerling sounds like a toy or laser gun.

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The gunshot sound during Takarazuka Mayerling sounds like a toy or laser gun. gun.
** Also from the Takarazuka versions, at the end of "Der letzte Tanz" the lights go off as Death leaves, followed by a terrible crash. No explanation is ever given for what caused the crash, which accidentally gives the impression Death walked into something in the dark.
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** In the 2013 Korean production, Death spends half his scenes providing a male example of AbsoluteCleavage for no apparent reason (other than {{Fanservice}}, given that principal Death was [[Music/DongBangShinKi Kim Junsu]]).

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** In the 2013 Korean production, Death spends half his scenes providing a male example of AbsoluteCleavage NavelDeepNeckline for no apparent reason (other than {{Fanservice}}, given that principal Death was [[Music/DongBangShinKi Kim Junsu]]).
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process

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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


** The puppet-like way the extras dance in many songs, most notably "Prolog" and "Alle Fragen sind gesellt", should be silly, but done well it becomes [[UncannyValley very]] [[NightmareFuel unnerving]].

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** The puppet-like way the extras dance in many songs, most notably "Prolog" and "Alle Fragen sind gesellt", should be silly, but done well it becomes [[UncannyValley [[UnintentionalUncannyValley very]] [[NightmareFuel unnerving]].



* UncannyValley: Shirota Yu (Toho production)'s portrayal manages to be a mix of this, NightmareFuel, and NarmCharm. His movements as Death is an odd combination of feline, simian, and human.

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** In many versions of "Wir oder sie", Sophie and her minions wear weird horse costumes, apparently to emphasis the ChessMotifs. It should detract from the seriousness of the scene, but somehow it doesn't.

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** In many versions of "Wir oder sie", Sophie and her minions wear weird horse costumes, apparently to emphasis emphasize the ChessMotifs. It should detract from the seriousness of the scene, but somehow it doesn't.



* ObscurePopularity: The show's been performed in Germany, Austria, Hungary, the Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Belgium, Russia, South Korea, Japan and China, and has multiple English fan translations. But in spite of its popularity most English-speakers have never heard of it.

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** The entirety of the blocking and choreography for "Die Schatten werden länger (Reprise)" in concert. Death has a longuing whip that he cracks a few times [[note]]presumably as Bratfisch, the carriage driver who took Rudolf and Mary Vetsera to Mayerling, and was the last person to see the Crown Prince alive[[/note]], then uses as a cat toy or fishing rod. Rudolf grabs the whip and has a tug-of-war with Death at the end of the song. It's narmy, sure, but it's full of symbolism.
* ObscurePopularity: The show's been performed in Germany, Austria, Hungary, the Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Belgium, Russia, South Korea, Japan and China, and has multiple English fan translations. But in spite of its popularity popularity, most English-speakers English speakers have never heard of it.
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* ToughActToFollow: It's the most successful German-language musical ever made, so this is inevitable for Kunze and Levay's later collaborations. Their next musical, ''Theatre/{{Mozart}}'', wasn't nearly as successful. They had slightly better luck with their third, ''Theatre/{{Rebecca}}'', which is more popular than ''Mozart!'' but not nearly as popular as ''Elisabeth''. Their fourth, ''Theatre/MarieAntoinetteMuscial'', was a flop in Germany but had a much better reception in Japan. Their fifth, ''Theatre/LadyBess'', has only been performed in Japan and there's no word of it ever coming to Europe.

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* ToughActToFollow: It's the most successful German-language musical ever made, so this is inevitable for Kunze and Levay's later collaborations. Their next musical, ''Theatre/{{Mozart}}'', wasn't nearly as successful. They had slightly better luck with their third, ''Theatre/{{Rebecca}}'', which is more popular than ''Mozart!'' but not nearly as popular as ''Elisabeth''. Their fourth, ''Theatre/MarieAntoinetteMuscial'', ''Theatre/MarieAntoinetteMusical'', was a flop in Germany but had a much better reception in Japan. Their fifth, ''Theatre/LadyBess'', has only been performed in Japan and there's no word of it ever coming to Europe.
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Changing wicks as per the Making disamgbs thread I decided to move Marie Antoinette to Marie Antoinette Musical in order to make the disamgb.


* ToughActToFollow: It's the most successful German-language musical ever made, so this is inevitable for Kunze and Levay's later collaborations. Their next musical, ''Theatre/{{Mozart}}'', wasn't nearly as successful. They had slightly better luck with their third, ''Theatre/{{Rebecca}}'', which is more popular than ''Mozart!'' but not nearly as popular as ''Elisabeth''. Their fourth, ''Theatre/MarieAntoinette'', was a flop in Germany but had a much better reception in Japan. Their fifth, ''Theatre/LadyBess'', has only been performed in Japan and there's no word of it ever coming to Europe.

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* ToughActToFollow: It's the most successful German-language musical ever made, so this is inevitable for Kunze and Levay's later collaborations. Their next musical, ''Theatre/{{Mozart}}'', wasn't nearly as successful. They had slightly better luck with their third, ''Theatre/{{Rebecca}}'', which is more popular than ''Mozart!'' but not nearly as popular as ''Elisabeth''. Their fourth, ''Theatre/MarieAntoinette'', ''Theatre/MarieAntoinetteMuscial'', was a flop in Germany but had a much better reception in Japan. Their fifth, ''Theatre/LadyBess'', has only been performed in Japan and there's no word of it ever coming to Europe.

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** Rudolf too. Poor guy exists only to be tormented by his grandmother, and then ignored completely by his mother. Who then turns him away the one time he asks for her help. Is it any wonder he is DrivenToSuicide?
*** It gets worse when you realize that [[ManipulativeBastard the only person he felt he could confide in and trust more or less planted the idea of suicide in his head.]]

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** Rudolf too. Poor guy exists only to be tormented by his grandmother, and then ignored completely by his mother. Who then turns him away the one time he asks for her help. Is it any wonder he is DrivenToSuicide?
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[[ManipulativeBastard the The only person he felt he could confide in and trust more or less planted the idea of suicide in his head.]]
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* ObscurePopularity: The show's been performed in Germany, Austria, Hungary, the Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Belgium, Russia, South Korea, Japan and China, and has multiple English fan translations. But in spite of its popularity most English-speakers have never heard of it.

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