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** The line about how Margo will always be 12 years old was funny enough when this movie released, but then we got "WesternAnimation/DespicableMe4".
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-->'''Bratt''': How did this show [[AwardSnub never win an Emmy]]?!

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-->'''Bratt''': --->'''Bratt:''' How did this show [[AwardSnub never win an Emmy]]?!



-->'''Boy in commercial''': No more math! I've been a bad boy! Ha ha ha!
-->'''Commercial announcer''': [[ContentWarning Mega-Diamond laser does not actually incinerate books]].

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-->'''Boy --->'''Boy in commercial''': commercial:''' No more math! I've been a bad boy! Ha ha ha!
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: [[spoiler: Bratt kidnapping the girls while doing a convincing impersonation of Lucy]] is both [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments awesome]] [[NightmareFuel and somewhat scary]], but some laughs have to be had at the fact [[spoiler: that he carries out the majority of the kidnapping without a mask, meaning that he's just wearing drag when he takes off with them]].

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[[spoiler: Bratt kidnapping the girls while doing a convincing impersonation of Lucy]] is both [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments awesome]] [[NightmareFuel and somewhat scary]], but some laughs have to be had at the fact [[spoiler: that he carries out the majority of the kidnapping without a mask, meaning that he's just wearing drag when he takes off with them]].
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Evil Is Sexy TRS; this has become an objective, in-universe trope.


* EvilIsSexy: Bratt is not only cool, but has also clearly gained himself more than a few fans that see him as incredibly attractive, due in no small part to factors such as his appearance and considerably suggestive behaviour.
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** Bratt remarking "it's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" prior to challenging Gru to a dance fight becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated film adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.

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** Bratt remarking "it's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" prior to challenging Gru to a dance fight becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated film adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.character and also features that line in it.
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** Bratt's "It's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" line becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated film adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.

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** Bratt's "It's Bratt remarking "it's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" line prior to challenging Gru to a dance fight becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated film adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.
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** Bratt's "It's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" line becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated film adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMario'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.

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** Bratt's "It's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" line becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated film adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMario'', ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.
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** Bratt's "It's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" line becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMario'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.

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** Bratt's "It's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" line becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated film adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMario'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** Lucy's struggle with motherhood is harder not only because she's new to it, but also because of her backstory which involved her parents being killed by a villain when she was very young.

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HarsherInHindsight: Lucy's struggle with motherhood is harder not only because she's new to it, but also because of her backstory which involved her parents being killed by a villain when she was very young.
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** One of the billboards in Hollywood is advertising a film called "''WesternAnimation/{{Soul}}''".

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** One of the billboards in Hollywood is advertising a film called "''WesternAnimation/{{Soul}}''".''WesternAnimation/{{Soul}}''.
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** Bratt's "It's on like VideoGame/DonkeyKong" line becomes this after Creator/{{Illumination}} announced and subsequently produced an [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie animated adaptation]] of ''Franchise/SuperMario'', which features Donkey Kong as a major character.
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* MemeticMutation: See this film's section on the [[Memes/DespicableMe franchise's meme page]].
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** In response to some complaints about Gru receiving BadassDecay [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe2 after joining the Anti-Villain League]], this film's story begins with Gru and Lucy being fired and the main plot has Gru go back to villainy in order to steal back the diamond, [[spoiler: though this is mainly an act to fool Dru as he plans to return it to the [=AVL=]]].
** Much like Lightning [=McQueen=] in ''WesternAnimation/Cars3'', after the massive backlash towards the minion's expanded role in the second film and [[WesternAnimation/{{Minions}} their own film]], this film's focus is set almost entirely on Gru and his family, while the Minions spend the majority of the film separated from the main events of the story.
** Adding to that, Edith was seen as a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter waste of character potential]], especially how she (and her sisters) were OutOfFocus in the previous movie. In this movie, she gets more characterization and screen-time equal to that of her sisters.
** The [[WesternAnimation/{{Minions}} Minions movie]] revealing that the Minions sole purpose is to serve the "most despicable master" had caused a VoodooShark in the series due to the fact that Gru stopped being a villain by the end of the first film, and even became a hero in the second, meaning the Minions should have left Gru to search for a new evil master. In this film, they do just that. [[spoiler: Although, they do eventually go back to Gru after realising how nice he's been to then, but this can be seen as CharacterDevelopment of the Minions realising they don't need an ''evil'' master to be happy. And if that still doesn't satisfiy you, they end up helping Dru with villain work.]]
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus of the movie -- It's not as good as its two direct predecessors but is not as bad as ''Minions''. For that matter, the film currently has a "58%" on Website/RottenTomatoes, which is lower than the first ("81%") and second ("75%").

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus of the movie -- It's not as good as its two direct predecessors but is not as bad as ''Minions''. For that matter, the film currently has a "58%" "59%" on Website/RottenTomatoes, which is lower than the first ("81%") and second ("75%").
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Could Valerie Da Vinci be a disguise of Balthazar Bratt? Like Bratt, she dresses in shoulder pads and wears purple, and given Bratt's acting abilites, it wouldn't be hard to imagine he could pull this off. This would also clear up the confusion of how Bratt learned Gru was fired from the AVL, as WebVideo/CinemaSins pointed out. Also shows why she doesn't appear again.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Could Valerie Da Vinci be a disguise of Balthazar Bratt? Like Bratt, she dresses in shoulder pads and wears purple, and given Bratt's acting abilites, it wouldn't be hard to imagine he could pull this off. This would also clear up the confusion of how Bratt learned Gru was fired from the AVL, as WebVideo/CinemaSins pointed out.AVL. Also shows why she doesn't appear again.
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** Speaking of Bratt, Creator/PharrellWilliams and Trey Parker's collaboration [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBoSia8p0M Hug Me]] was considered enough of this to hit MemeticMutation levels.

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** Speaking of Bratt, Creator/PharrellWilliams Music/PharrellWilliams and Trey Parker's collaboration [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBoSia8p0M Hug Me]] was considered enough of this to hit MemeticMutation levels.
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** Speaking of Bratt, Creator/PharellWilliams and Trey Parker's collaboration [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBoSia8p0M Hug Me]] was considered enough of this to hit MemeticMutation levels.

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** Speaking of Bratt, Creator/PharellWilliams Creator/PharrellWilliams and Trey Parker's collaboration [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBoSia8p0M Hug Me]] was considered enough of this to hit MemeticMutation levels.
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** Speaking of Bratt, Creator/PharellWilliams and Trey Parker's collaboration [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBoSia8p0M Hug Me]] was considered enough of this to hit MemeticMutation levels.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Balthazar Bratt could be read as this to some. While wether or not we're intended to like him is debatable, the writers have made it very clear that, because he's a villain, we're supposed to root against him. However, many fans found themselves rooting for Bratt due to how [[LaughablyEvil funny]] and [[EvilIsHammy hammy]] he is. It doesn't help that, even though his show was cancelled due to him growing up and going through puberty (i.e., something he ''literally had no control over''), we're still supposed to root against him.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Balthazar Bratt could be read as this to some. While wether whether or not we're intended to like him is debatable, the writers have made it very clear that, because he's a villain, we're supposed to root against him. However, many fans found themselves rooting for Bratt due to how [[LaughablyEvil funny]] and [[EvilIsHammy hammy]] he is. It doesn't help that, even though his show was cancelled due to him growing up and going through puberty (i.e., something he ''literally had no control over''), we're still supposed to root against him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Balthazar Bratt could be read as this to some. While wether or not we're intended to like him is debatable, the writers have made it very clear that, because he's a villain, we're supposed to root against him. However, many fans found themselves rooting for Bratt due to how [[LaughablyEvil funny]] and [[EvilIsHammy hammy]] he is. It doesn't help that, even though his show was cancelled due to him growing up and going through puberty, we're still supposed to root against him.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Balthazar Bratt could be read as this to some. While wether or not we're intended to like him is debatable, the writers have made it very clear that, because he's a villain, we're supposed to root against him. However, many fans found themselves rooting for Bratt due to how [[LaughablyEvil funny]] and [[EvilIsHammy hammy]] he is. It doesn't help that, even though his show was cancelled due to him growing up and going through puberty, puberty (i.e., something he ''literally had no control over''), we're still supposed to root against him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Balthazar Bratt could be read as this to some. While wether or not we're intended to like him is debatable, the writers have made it very clear that, because he's a villain, we're supposed to root against him. However, many fans found themselves rooting for Bratt due to how [[LaughablyEvil funny]] and [[EvilIsHammy hammy]] he is. It doesn't help that, even though his show was cancelled due to him growing up and going through puberty, we're still supposed to root against him.
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** The [[WesternAnimation/{{Minions}} Minions movie]] revealing that the Minions sole purpose is to serve the "most despicable master" had caused a VoodooShark in the series due to the fact that Gru stopped being a villain by the end of the first film, and even became a hero in the second, meaning the Minions should have left Gru to search for a new evil master. In this film, they do just that. [[spoiler: Although, they do eventually go back to Gru after realising how nice he's been to then, but this can be seen as CharacterDevelopment of the Minions realising they don't need an ''evil'' master to be happy. And if that still doesn't satisfiy you, they end up helping Dru with villain work.]]
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As written, this is just a flaw, not a funny thing.


* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler: Dru yelling "[[IHaveNoSon We are no longer brothers!]]" at Gru during their PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure. While Dru is a bit of an eccentric ManChild, his line sounds more like a childish threat than him actually wanting to break any connection with Gru.]]
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She's a child actor who grew up. Nothing "Harsh" about it. The entry is just whinning about how a kid actor got replaced while forcing an Entry Pimp of Eighth Grade (an unrelated film)


** Bratt's backstory involves him being kicked off his show due to puberty causing his voice to break and him being too old to play his part. In this film, Elsie Fisher (the original voice of Agnes) was replaced by Nev Scharrel for the exact same reason. Though she would later star in the critically acclaimed ''Film/EighthGrade'', so there is a silver lining.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus of the movie -- It's not as good as its two direct predecessors but is not as bad as ''Minions''. For that matter, the film currently has a "61%" on Website/RottenTomatoes, which is lower than the first ("81%") and second ("73%") but it's still a fresh score.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus of the movie -- It's not as good as its two direct predecessors but is not as bad as ''Minions''. For that matter, the film currently has a "61%" "58%" on Website/RottenTomatoes, which is lower than the first ("81%") and second ("73%") but it's still a fresh score.("75%").

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