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** As many viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud made both sides unlikeable. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].

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** As many viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud made both sides unlikeable. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most many fans would rather forget this episode existed]].
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** As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud made both sides unlikeable. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].

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** As most many viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud made both sides unlikeable. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].
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** As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud is itself a massive IdiotPlot. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].

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** As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud is itself a massive IdiotPlot.made both sides unlikeable. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].

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--->'''Actor!Aang:''' Look, it's the Great Divide -- the biggest canyon in the Earth Kingdom!\\

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--->'''Actor!Aang:''' --->'''Actor Aang:''' Look, it's the Great Divide -- the biggest canyon in the Earth Kingdom!\\



'''Actor!Sokka:''' Eh... let's keep flying.
* HilariousInHindsight: Sokka's initial reluctance to go through the Great Divide instead of flying over it, and the Canyon Guide quitting and leaving for good at the end of the episode.
-->'''Canyon Guide:''' I'm sick of this place!
* IdiotPlot: The two tribes endanger everyone, nearly getting people killed by canyon crawlers, all because they brought food with them despite the guide specifically saying "no food" because it would attract predators. Also, both tribes would rather go through needless hardships for generations to avoid working with the other, yet their feud is so superficial that lying about its origins turns them around immediately.

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'''Actor!Sokka:''' '''Actor Sokka:''' Eh... let's keep flying.
* HilariousInHindsight: Sokka's initial reluctance to go through the Great Divide instead of flying over it, and the Canyon Guide quitting and leaving for good at the end of the episode.
-->'''Canyon Guide:''' I'm sick of this place!
* IdiotPlot: The two tribes endanger everyone, nearly getting people killed by canyon crawlers, all because they brought food with them despite the guide specifically saying "no food" because it would attract predators. Also, both tribes would rather go through needless hardships for generations to avoid working with the other, yet their feud is so superficial that lying about its origins turns them around immediately.
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: This episode ''almost'' manages to be a deep, non-partisan commentary on tribalism, how easy it is to get sucked into it, how keeping two sides apart isn't enough to stop them hating each other, and how being no worse than "the other side" doesn't mean you're on the right side.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud is itself a massive IdiotPlot. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].

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As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud is itself a massive IdiotPlot. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Team Avatar is left to escort refugees of the war to the outskirts of Ba Sing Se, which could've held higher potential if the tribes in question had anything to offer regarding the larger and more desperate effort to defeat the Fire Nation, and could've shown the greater consequences of the global conflict. Instead, the reason for their ancient feud has no bearing on the war raging behind them.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Team Avatar is left to escort refugees of the war to the outskirts of Ba Sing Se, which could've held higher potential if the tribes in question had anything to offer regarding the larger and more desperate effort to defeat the Fire Nation, and could've shown the greater consequences of the global conflict. Instead, the reason for their ancient feud has no bearing on the war raging behind them.them.
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* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs are not liked by many, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only resurfacing in ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi'' as background worldbuilding.
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* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs are not liked by many, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only resurfacing in ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi'' as worldbuilding.

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* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs are not liked by many, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only resurfacing in ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi'' as background worldbuilding.
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* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs are not liked by many, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only resurfacing in the comic book expansions.

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* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs are not liked by many, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only resurfacing in the comic book expansions.''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi'' as worldbuilding.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: For all its faults, the animation remains top-notch; For some, the animated sequences detailing the stories of Wei Jin and Jin Wei may also deserve a mention.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: For all its faults, the animation remains top-notch; For for some, the animated sequences detailing the stories of Wei Jin and Jin Wei may also deserve a mention.



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* IdiotPlot: The two tribes endanger everyone, nearly getting people killed by cannon crawlers, all because they brought food with them despite the guide specifically saying "no food" because it would attract predators. Also, both tribes would rather go through needless hardships for generations to avoid working with the other, yet their feud is so superficial that lying about its origins turns them around immediately.
* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs appear to be this to the series, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only resurfacing in the comic book expansions.

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* IdiotPlot: The two tribes endanger everyone, nearly getting people killed by cannon canyon crawlers, all because they brought food with them despite the guide specifically saying "no food" because it would attract predators. Also, both tribes would rather go through needless hardships for generations to avoid working with the other, yet their feud is so superficial that lying about its origins turns them around immediately.
* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs appear to be this to the series, are not liked by many, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only resurfacing in the comic book expansions.
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* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs appear to be this to the series, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only recently resurfacing in the comic book expansions.

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* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs appear to be this to the series, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only recently only resurfacing in the comic book expansions.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Canyon Guide; for bonus points, he's voiced by Leonard Stone, who played the father of Violet in ''Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory''.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: It is ok, sometimes even good, to lie, if the lie is done with the intention of stopping a destructive conflict.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Canyon Guide; for bonus points, he's voiced by Leonard Stone, who played the father of Violet in ''Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory''.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: It is ok, sometimes even good, to lie, if the lie is done with the intention of stopping a destructive conflict.
''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory''.
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There IS an episode of Avatar about helping war refugees that worked well.


* FanonDiscontinuity: As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked, if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud is itself a massive IdiotPlot. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].

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* FanonDiscontinuity: As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked, worked (and indeed, [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSerpentsPass a later episode about that does work]]), if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud is itself a massive IdiotPlot. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG most fans would rather forget this episode existed]].
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Narm examples aren't over-played drama. NLID is for characters; real life examples have a 25 year waiting period. Snark Bait is for the work as a whole, not individual episodes.


* {{Narm}}:
** The Gan Jin and Zhangs' respective ancestors are named "Jin Wei" and "Wei Jin", respectively. ''Yes, really''.
** The animated segments telling the tale of the aforementioned men may also count, as they comprise one of the only DerangedAnimation gags in the series.
* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the Gan Jin tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he is TheChessmaster who is the best earthbender of his age. When his main political rival, Hui, comes to reckon with him, he makes sure to bring a member of the Zhang tribe along with and Jianzhu notes that ''no'' Zhang would pass up the chance to one-up a Ganjinese.



* SnarkBait: This page is loaded with tropes attesting to its status as this. It's also hard not to mock the backstory between the two tribes and their ancient feud, which is PlayedForLaughs throughout much of the episode and provides no meaningful weight to the story.

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* SnarkBait: This page is loaded with tropes attesting to its status as this. It's also hard not to mock the backstory between the two tribes and their ancient feud, which is PlayedForLaughs throughout much of the episode and provides no meaningful weight to the story.

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* TheScrappy: The Gan Jins and the Zhangs appear to be this to the series, as their bitter feud holds little consequence for the larger war and thus they went entirely unmentioned for the rest of the series, only recently resurfacing in the comic book expansions.
* SnarkBait: This page is loaded with tropes attesting to its status as this. It's also hard not to mock the backstory between the two tribes and their ancient feud, which is PlayedForLaughs throughout much of the episode and provides no meaningful weight to the story.story.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Team Avatar is left to escort refugees of the war to the outskirts of Ba Sing Se, which could've held higher potential if the tribes in question had anything to offer regarding the larger and more desperate effort to defeat the Fire Nation, and could've shown the greater consequences of the global conflict. Instead, the reason for their ancient feud has no bearing on the war raging behind them.
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* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the Gan Jin tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he is TheChessmaster who is the best earthbender of his age. When his main political rival, Hui, comes to reckon with him, he makes sure to bring a member of the Zhang tribe along with and Jianzhu notes that ''no'' Zhang would pass up the chance to one-up a Ganjinese.

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* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the Gan Jin tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he is TheChessmaster who is the best earthbender of his age. When his main political rival, Hui, comes to reckon with him, he makes sure to bring a member of the Zhang tribe along with and Jianzhu notes that ''no'' Zhang would pass up the chance to one-up a Ganjinese.Ganjinese.
* SnarkBait: This page is loaded with tropes attesting to its status as this. It's also hard not to mock the backstory between the two tribes and their ancient feud, which is PlayedForLaughs throughout much of the episode and provides no meaningful weight to the story.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Canyon Guide.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Canyon Guide.Guide; for bonus points, he's voiced by Leonard Stone, who played the father of Violet in ''Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory''.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Lying is fine, as long as it's for a ''realllly'' good reason.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Lying It is fine, as long as it's for ok, sometimes even good, to lie, if the lie is done with the intention of stopping a ''realllly'' good reason.destructive conflict.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG Most fans would rather forget this episode existed.]]

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* FanonDiscontinuity: As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked, if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story, and the feud is itself a massive IdiotPlot. Because of this, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/113discontinuitywz1_8922.JPG Most most fans would rather forget this episode existed.]]existed]].



* IdiotPlot: The two tribes endanger everyone, breakup getting people killed by cannon crawlers, all because they brought food with them despite the guide specifically saying "no food" because it would attract predators. Also, both tribes would rather go through needless hardships for generations to avoid working with the other, yet their feud is so superficial that lying about its origins turns them around immediately.

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* IdiotPlot: The two tribes endanger everyone, breakup nearly getting people killed by cannon crawlers, all because they brought food with them despite the guide specifically saying "no food" because it would attract predators. Also, both tribes would rather go through needless hardships for generations to avoid working with the other, yet their feud is so superficial that lying about its origins turns them around immediately.



* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the Gan Jin tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he’s a MagnificentBastard {{Chessmaster}} who’s arguably the best earthbender of his age. When his main political rival, Hui, comes to reckon with him, he makes sure to bring a member of the Zhang tribe along with and Jianzhu notes that ''no'' Zhang would pass up the chance to one-up a Ganjinese.

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* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the Gan Jin tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he’s a MagnificentBastard {{Chessmaster}} who’s arguably he is TheChessmaster who is the best earthbender of his age. When his main political rival, Hui, comes to reckon with him, he makes sure to bring a member of the Zhang tribe along with and Jianzhu notes that ''no'' Zhang would pass up the chance to one-up a Ganjinese.

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Audience Alienating Premise is for entire works.


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: As most viewers have noted, the episode is comprised mostly of arguing among the heroes and the two feuding tribes. An episode focused on the rescue of refugees of the war ''could'' have worked, if not for the fact that the aforementioned feud has no bearing on the rest of the story.



* IdiotPlot: What part about "no food" don't the two tribes understand? Also, both tribes would rather go through needless hardships for generations to avoid working with the other, yet their feud is so superficial that lying about its origins turns them around immediately.

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* IdiotPlot: What part about The two tribes endanger everyone, breakup getting people killed by cannon crawlers, all because they brought food with them despite the guide specifically saying "no food" don't the two tribes understand? because it would attract predators. Also, both tribes would rather go through needless hardships for generations to avoid working with the other, yet their feud is so superficial that lying about its origins turns them around immediately.
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* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the Gan Jin tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he’s a MagnificentBastard {{Chessmaster}} who’s arguably the best earthbender of his age.

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* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the Gan Jin tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he’s a MagnificentBastard {{Chessmaster}} who’s arguably the best earthbender of his age. When his main political rival, Hui, comes to reckon with him, he makes sure to bring a member of the Zhang tribe along with and Jianzhu notes that ''no'' Zhang would pass up the chance to one-up a Ganjinese.
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* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he’s a MagnificentBastard {{Chessmaster}} who’s arguably the best earthbender of his age.

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* NeverLiveItDown: A mild case all things considered, but the lack of connection between the events of this episode and the ongoing war that brought the team here makes it one of the most easily skippable episodes in the series. Even ''Literature/TheRiseOfKyoshi '' got a shot in on it. BigBad Jianzhu is originally from the Gan Jin tribe and has had to fight his entire life to crawl his way to the top to be taken seriously even though he’s a MagnificentBastard {{Chessmaster}} who’s arguably the best earthbender of his age.

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