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True Art Is Incomprehensible is now an in-universe trope as per TRS.


** [[spoiler:Nay]] also qualifies for this, as she hits pretty hard, is hard to get rid of the mooks protecting her, and between her attacks and those of the enemies accompanying her, it's very easy to end up creamed in a couple of turns.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Kanon [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments tries to invoke this trope]] by saying that nobody truly understands the beauty of her "Ionasal Bread." For the most part, it's just really terrible.

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** [[spoiler:Nay]] also qualifies for this, as she hits pretty hard, is hard to get rid of the mooks protecting her, and between her attacks and those of the enemies accompanying her, it's very easy to end up creamed in a couple of turns.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Kanon [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments tries to invoke this trope]] by saying that nobody truly understands the beauty of her "Ionasal Bread." For the most part, it's just really terrible.
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* CompleteMonster: The "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, mind-child of Delta and Cass, they first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, an soul absorbing atrocity, for her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill becomes part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player uses it to help destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass using their daughter as their avatar, with each plan stopped by the player's interference. Once everything was about to be solved, the other player makes their final move to eliminate everyone, transforming the Maternal Overseer into a giant mechanical dragon to convert every being into energy and using that energy to bring Nero back to their world "for 100% completion" from their side. When confronted about this not being a game, the other player shows they know but don't care. They'd kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. It is also heavily implied that the other player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, mind-child of Delta and Cass, they the other player first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, an soul absorbing a [[YourSoulIsMine soul-absorbing]] atrocity, for her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill becomes part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player uses it to help destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass about using their daughter as their avatar, with each plan stopped by the player's interference. Once everything was about to be solved, the other player makes their final move to [[OmnicidalManiac eliminate everyone, everyone]], transforming the Maternal Overseer into a giant mechanical dragon to convert every being into energy and using that energy to bring Nero back to their world "for 100% completion" from their side. When confronted about this not being a game, the other player shows they know but don't care. They'd kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. It is also heavily implied that the other player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.
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* CompleteMonster: The "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but doesn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. It is also heavily implied that the other player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about world doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he they first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off an soul absorbing atrocity, for her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be becomes part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move uses it to help destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, their avatar, with each plan being stopped by the player character's player's interference. Once all the conflicts were everything was about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using transforming the Maternal Overseer into a giant mecha mechanical dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed energy and using that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" "for 100% completion" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew know but doesn't don't care. They would destroy and They'd kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. It is also heavily implied that the other player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.
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* NightmareFuel: Lots:
** The effects of [[spoiler:Interdimend on a person]].
** Renall's Genometrics: giant eyeballs, torture rooms and will make feel like a complete bastard.
** Zill's plan causes [[spoiler:the people in the pods to melt in order to harvest their souls.]]
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* CompleteMonster: The "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. It is also heavily implied that the other player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't doesn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. It is also heavily implied that the other player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.
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Not YMMV; moving
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* DeusExMachina: The pathway to Ion's true ending can come off as this, as Ion herself had already resigned her life to stay in Ra Ciela as the only known way back requires the sacrifices of many people. Said DeusExMachina lies in [[spoiler:Ayatane's "Reincarnation" recipe that allows the party to bring Prim's soul back to the living world, with next to no indication about such a function. And the real reason for Prim's prequisite for said ending was because the other Interdimend player had a way to return Ion and Nero (Ulyliyha) back to their original dimension that he doesn't bother to disclose, let alone attempted, as he assumed that the Soreil won't make it to the center of EXA_PICO. That said, players would be [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential heartless monsters]] if they take any of the other endings and decide to ignore the true one: Ion's original body dies in her world of origin, and there's the implications that her family would take it very hard, especially her little sister Aya, who personally witnessed the deadly attack that forced Ion to use the machine that took her soul to Ra Ciela. And the one who caused the attack in the first place was none than the player controlling Prim.]]



* {{Foreshadowing}}: [[spoiler: Ion's side reveals that Sharl tend to find things such as nutritional supplements tasty.]]



* StarCrossedLovers: Ion and Earthes could qualify as one if your relationship with her gets deep enough, due to the simple fact that she is from a different world than yours. It is possible for the player to marry her in this game (in Genometrics, at least) or ''Ciel Nosurge'' (the latter even have a marriage oath beyond the Seven Dimensions, courtesy of Nelico). [[spoiler:However, at the end of ''Ciel Nosurge'', Ion had to disconnect the Interdimend terminal to transfer it to Earthes avatar, possibly unable to reconnect to the same person again, or worse, ended up connecting to a player that doesn't appreciate Ion as much as the player from ''Ciel Nosurge'' does. The Ar Nosurge OS has a built-in interaction limiter for a reason.]]
** While it is possible for her to reconnect the terminal to the same player via the Sekai Link [[NoExportForYou in the Japanese version]], the Interdimend will be cut off again at the end of the game, separating you for good regardless whether she [[spoiler:stays in the reborn Ra Ciela or returns to Earth, as she lives in a [[AlternateUniverse different collective axis]] than the player's Earth]].
** This can be downplayed somewhat [[NoExportForYou in the Japanese version]] as you can get one of three possible voicemails from [[spoiler:Yuuki Nei]] after clearing both games, but unlocking the best of these voicemails requires [[spoiler:you to be marry her back in ''Ciel Nosurge'' in the first place.]]



* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Kanon [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments tries to invoke this trope]] by saying that nobody truly understands the beauty of her "Ionasal Bread." For the most part, it's just really terrible.
* WhamLine: [[spoiler:Nei Yuuki]] : [[spoiler:Don't lie to me! What do you know? I know things... You're just looking through a screen, right? Pressing buttons...]]

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Kanon [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments tries to invoke this trope]] by saying that nobody truly understands the beauty of her "Ionasal Bread." For the most part, it's just really terrible.
* WhamLine: [[spoiler:Nei Yuuki]] : [[spoiler:Don't lie to me! What do you know? I know things... You're just looking through a screen, right? Pressing buttons...]]
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Every. Single. One of the synthesis dances.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Every. Single. One of the The synthesis dances.dances come out of nowhere, have nothing to do with making anything, and are never commented on by the characters. They're weird.

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. And there's much to be said about the implications that same player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. And there's much to be said about the implications It is also heavily implied that same the other player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[OmnicidalManiac other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. And there's much to be said about the implications that same player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[OmnicidalManiac "[[EvilCounterpart other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]]. And there's much to be said about the implications that same player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.
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There isn't an actual case of "lower dimension" or "higher leveled beings" if you actually check how Oversight, Interdimend and the Seven Dimensions actually work.


* CompleteMonster: The "[[OmnicidalManiac other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from a lower dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to destroy the world. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull of her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as a avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nelico back to their world as a bonus prize. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of lower level beings just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]].

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[OmnicidalManiac other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from a lower another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to destroy send Nero back to her world, although the world. other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull of off her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as a an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nelico Nero back to their world as to "complete the game in a bonus prize.100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of lower level beings residents of another universe just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]].selfishness]]. And there's much to be said about the implications that same player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.

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* CompleteMonster: The "[[OmnicidalManiac other player]]", much like the PlayerCharacter, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from a lower dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to destroy the world. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zill]] in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull of her [[AssimilationPlot goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness]]. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as a avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nelico back to their world as a bonus prize. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of lower level beings just out of [[ForTheEvulz amusement]] and their own [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]].
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Kanon [[CrowningMomentOfFunny tries to invoke this trope]] by saying that nobody truly understands the beauty of her "Ionasal Bread." For the most part, it's just really terrible.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Kanon [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments tries to invoke this trope]] by saying that nobody truly understands the beauty of her "Ionasal Bread." For the most part, it's just really terrible.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The synthesis dances, especially watching Earthes join in and, even more, Delta's complete look of "I ''really'' don't want to be doing this," on his face.
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* HarsherInHindsight: em-pyei-n vari-fen jang; being the song heard over the montage showing how Ra Ciela and the Genoms perished at the start of the game feels like it hits somewhat harder now that its singer Origa passed away...

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* HarsherInHindsight: em-pyei-n [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNx9GZhXRVU "em-pyei-n vari-fen jang; jang;"]] being the song heard over the montage showing how Ra Ciela and the Genoms perished at the start of the game feels like it hits somewhat harder now that its singer Origa passed away...

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Fetish Fuel is not a trope and should not be used as one.


* FetishFuelStationAttendant: Dere Cass in her Sharl outfit. Hoo boy.



** Foreshadowing: [[spoiler: Ion's side reveals that Sharl tend to find things such as nutritional supplements tasty.]]

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** Foreshadowing: * {{Foreshadowing}}: [[spoiler: Ion's side reveals that Sharl tend to find things such as nutritional supplements tasty.]]
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* StarCrossedLovers: Ion and Earthes could qualify as one if your relation with her gets deep enough, due to the simple fact that she is from a different world than yours. It is possible for the player to marry her in this game (in Genometrics, at least) or ''Ciel Nosurge'' (the latter even have a marriage oath beyond the Seven Dimensions, courtesy of Nelico). [[spoiler:However, at the end of ''Ciel Nosurge'', Ion had to disconnect the Interdimend terminal to transfer it to Earthes avatar, possibly unable to reconnect to the same person again, or worse, ended up connecting to a player that doesn't appreciate Ion as much as the player from ''Ciel Nosurge'' does.]]

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* StarCrossedLovers: Ion and Earthes could qualify as one if your relation relationship with her gets deep enough, due to the simple fact that she is from a different world than yours. It is possible for the player to marry her in this game (in Genometrics, at least) or ''Ciel Nosurge'' (the latter even have a marriage oath beyond the Seven Dimensions, courtesy of Nelico). [[spoiler:However, at the end of ''Ciel Nosurge'', Ion had to disconnect the Interdimend terminal to transfer it to Earthes avatar, possibly unable to reconnect to the same person again, or worse, ended up connecting to a player that doesn't appreciate Ion as much as the player from ''Ciel Nosurge'' does. The Ar Nosurge OS has a built-in interaction limiter for a reason.]]
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* StarCrossedLovers: Ion and Earthes could qualify as one if your relation with her gets deep enough, due to the simple fact that she is from a different world than yours. It is possible for the player to marry her in this game or ''Ciel Nosurge'' (the latter even have a marriage oath beyond the Seven Dimensions, courtesy of Nelico). [[spoiler:However, at the end of ''Ciel Nosurge'', Ion had to disconnect the Interdimend terminal to transfer it to Earthes avatar, possibly unable to reconnect to the same person again, or worse, ended up connecting to a player that doesn't appreciate Ion as much as the player from ''Ciel Nosurge'' does.]]

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* StarCrossedLovers: Ion and Earthes could qualify as one if your relation with her gets deep enough, due to the simple fact that she is from a different world than yours. It is possible for the player to marry her in this game (in Genometrics, at least) or ''Ciel Nosurge'' (the latter even have a marriage oath beyond the Seven Dimensions, courtesy of Nelico). [[spoiler:However, at the end of ''Ciel Nosurge'', Ion had to disconnect the Interdimend terminal to transfer it to Earthes avatar, possibly unable to reconnect to the same person again, or worse, ended up connecting to a player that doesn't appreciate Ion as much as the player from ''Ciel Nosurge'' does.]]
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* DeusExMachina: The pathway to Ion's true ending can come off as this, as Ion herself had already resigned her life to stay in Ra Ciela as the only known way back requires the sacrifices of many people. Said DeusExMachina lies in [[spoiler:Ayatane's "Reincarnation" recipe that allows the party to bring Prim's soul back to the living world, with next to no indication about such a function. And the real reason for Prim's prequisite for said ending was because the other Interdimend player had a way to return Ion and Nero (Ulyliyha) back to their original dimension that he doesn't bother to disclose, let alone attempted, as he assumed that the Soreil won't make it to the center of EXA_PICO. That said, players would be heartless monsters if they take any of the other endings and decide to ignore the true one: Ion's original body dies in her world of origin, and there's the implications that her family would take it very hard, especially her little sister Aya, who personally witnessed the deadly attack that forced Ion to use the machine that took her soul to Ra Ciela. And the one who caused the attack in the first place was no one else than the player controlling Prim.]]

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* DeusExMachina: The pathway to Ion's true ending can come off as this, as Ion herself had already resigned her life to stay in Ra Ciela as the only known way back requires the sacrifices of many people. Said DeusExMachina lies in [[spoiler:Ayatane's "Reincarnation" recipe that allows the party to bring Prim's soul back to the living world, with next to no indication about such a function. And the real reason for Prim's prequisite for said ending was because the other Interdimend player had a way to return Ion and Nero (Ulyliyha) back to their original dimension that he doesn't bother to disclose, let alone attempted, as he assumed that the Soreil won't make it to the center of EXA_PICO. That said, players would be [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential heartless monsters monsters]] if they take any of the other endings and decide to ignore the true one: Ion's original body dies in her world of origin, and there's the implications that her family would take it very hard, especially her little sister Aya, who personally witnessed the deadly attack that forced Ion to use the machine that took her soul to Ra Ciela. And the one who caused the attack in the first place was no one else none than the player controlling Prim.]]



* StarCrossedLovers: Ion and Earthes could qualifies as one if the player marries her in this game or Ciel Nosurge (the latter even have a marriage oath beyond the Seven Dimensions, courtesy of Nelico). [[spoiler:Specifically, at the end of Ciel Nosurge, Ion had to disconnect the Interdimend terminal to transfer it to Earthes avatar, possibly unable to reconnect to the same person again.]]

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* StarCrossedLovers: Ion and Earthes could qualifies qualify as one if your relation with her gets deep enough, due to the simple fact that she is from a different world than yours. It is possible for the player marries to marry her in this game or Ciel Nosurge ''Ciel Nosurge'' (the latter even have a marriage oath beyond the Seven Dimensions, courtesy of Nelico). [[spoiler:Specifically, [[spoiler:However, at the end of Ciel Nosurge, ''Ciel Nosurge'', Ion had to disconnect the Interdimend terminal to transfer it to Earthes avatar, possibly unable to reconnect to the same person again.again, or worse, ended up connecting to a player that doesn't appreciate Ion as much as the player from ''Ciel Nosurge'' does.]]



** This can be downplayed somewhat [[NoExportForYou in the Japanese version]] as you can get one of three possible voicemails from [[spoiler:Yuuki Nei]] after clearing both games, but unlocking the best of these voicemails requires [[spoiler:you to be marry her back in Ciel Nosurge in the first place.]]

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** This can be downplayed somewhat [[NoExportForYou in the Japanese version]] as you can get one of three possible voicemails from [[spoiler:Yuuki Nei]] after clearing both games, but unlocking the best of these voicemails requires [[spoiler:you to be marry her back in Ciel Nosurge ''Ciel Nosurge'' in the first place.]]

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