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** In ''Shadows'', Dr. Kasyanov climbs into a medpod similar to the one from ''Prometheus'' to have it treat her injuries. Instead, Ash overrides the programming and - while Hooper is stuck watching - uses the laser scalpels to butcher Kasyanov to death without anesthesia.

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** In ''Shadows'', Dr. Kasyanov climbs into a medpod similar to the one from ''Prometheus'' ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' to have it treat her injuries. Instead, Ash overrides the programming and - while Hooper is stuck watching - uses the laser scalpels to butcher Kasyanov to death without anesthesia.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Ripley's nightmares about her daughter Amanda getting attacked by the Xenomorphs are far more frightening given that ''VideoGame/AlienIsolation'' has that exact thing happening. And given that Ripley's nigtmares in ''Shadows'' occur after she'd been in hypersleep for 37 years. . . the events of that game had ''already'' happened.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Ripley's nightmares about her daughter Amanda getting attacked by the Xenomorphs are far more frightening given that ''VideoGame/AlienIsolation'' has that exact thing happening. And given that Ripley's nigtmares nightmares in ''Shadows'' occur after she'd been in hypersleep for 37 years. . .years... the events of that game had ''already'' happened.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Sea of Sorrows'' does this to fix some commonly-mentioned fan complaints about ''Film/AlienResurrection''. Not only is the ending of said film directly addressed (it nearly caused [[NoEndorHolocaust another Ice Age]] because of its damage to the planet), but Weyland-Yutani's fate is reversed by having it reform and resume its role as the dominant MegaCorp on Earth.
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* ContestedSequel: Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity despite being announced as the foundation of a new canon. ''Shadows'', for example, has to pull some pretty impressive last-minute {{Deus Ex Machina}}s to get Ripley [[StatusQuoIsGod back to the exact same point]] she was at the end of ''Film/{{Alien}}'', and some elements don't quite line up or make sense.

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* ContestedSequel: Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity despite being announced as the foundation of a new canon. ''Shadows'', for example, has to pull some pretty impressive last-minute {{Deus Ex Machina}}s to get Ripley [[StatusQuoIsGod back to the exact same point]] she was at the end of ''Film/{{Alien}}'', and some elements still don't quite line up or make sense.
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* ContestedSequel: Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that the books are now canon to the film's universe). ''Shadows'', for example, has to pull some pretty impressive last-minute {{Deus Ex Machina}}s to get Ripley [[StatusQuoIsGod back to the exact same point]] she was at the end of ''Film/{{Alien}}'', so she can be picked up in time for ''Film/{{Aliens}}''.

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* ContestedSequel: Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that despite being announced as the books are now canon to the film's universe). foundation of a new canon. ''Shadows'', for example, has to pull some pretty impressive last-minute {{Deus Ex Machina}}s to get Ripley [[StatusQuoIsGod back to the exact same point]] she was at the end of ''Film/{{Alien}}'', so she can be picked and some elements don't quite line up in time for ''Film/{{Aliens}}''.or make sense.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Ripley's presence aboard the ''Marion'' in ''Out of the Shadows''. It telegraphs to the audience that no one's making it out of this but her, and she'll make it out in exactly the same condition as the was at the end of ''Alien'', in order to be picked up at the start of ''Aliens''. The story would have unfolded in pretty much the exact same way without her. It could arguably more interesting to have the ''potential'' for some of these characters to survive, only for none of them to. The only wrinkle would come in ''Sea of Sorrows'', which revists LV-178 and the Alien hive deep underground there, with the Aliens identifying Decker as a descendant of "The Destroyer." But even that could have been smoothed over: the novel already implies these Aliens are aware of Ripley's actions at LV-426, despite those hives having no contact (implied to be through their telepathic communication). Not to mention, it would arguably make more sense to have Decker be a descendant of a ''Marion'' survivor instead of Ellen Ripley (since Carter Burke states Amanda died childless), the only thing lost would be the connection to the franchise's most iconic hero and loss of the Ripley legacy (YMMV if that in and of itself is a deal-breaker).

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Ripley's presence aboard the ''Marion'' in ''Out of the Shadows''. It telegraphs to the audience that no one's making it out of this but her, and she'll make it out in exactly the same condition as the she was at the end of ''Alien'', in order to be picked up at the start of ''Aliens''. The story would have unfolded in pretty much the exact same way without her. It could arguably be more interesting to have the ''potential'' for some of these characters to survive, only for none of them to. The only wrinkle would come in ''Sea of Sorrows'', which revists revisits LV-178 and the Alien hive deep underground there, with the Aliens identifying Decker as a descendant of "The Destroyer." But even that could have been smoothed over: the novel already implies these Aliens are aware of Ripley's actions at LV-426, despite those hives having no contact (implied to be through their telepathic communication). Not to mention, it would arguably make more sense to have Decker be a descendant of a ''Marion'' survivor instead of Ellen Ripley (since Carter Burke states Amanda died childless), the only thing lost would be the connection to the franchise's most iconic hero and loss of the Ripley legacy (YMMV if that in and of itself is a deal-breaker).
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Ripley's presence aboard the ''Marion'' in ''Out of the Shadows''. It telegraphs to the audience that no one's making it out of this but her, and she'll make it out in exactly the same condition as the was at the end of ''Alien'', in order to be picked up at the start of ''Aliens''. The story would have unfolded in pretty much the exact same way without her. It could arguably more interesting to have the ''potential'' for some of these characters to survive, only for none of them to. The only wrinkle would come in ''Sea of Sorrows'', which revists LV-178 and the Alien hive deep underground there, with the Aliens identifying Decker as a descendant of "The Destroyer." But even that could have been smoothed over: the novel already implies these Aliens are aware of Ripley's actions at LV-426, despite those hives having no contact (implied to be through their telepathic communication). Not to mention, it would arguably make more sense to have Decker be a descendant of a ''Marion'' survivor instead of Ellen Ripley (since Carter Burke states Amanda died childless), the only thing lost would be the connection to the franchise's most iconic hero and loss of the Ripley legacy (YMMV if that in and of itself is a deal-breaker).
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''River of Pain'' does this to fix some commonly-mentioned fan complaints about ''Film/AlienResurrection''. Not only is the ending of said film directly addressed (it nearly caused [[NoEndorHolocaust another Ice Age]] because of its damage to the planet), but Weyland-Yutani's fate is reversed by having it reform and resume its role as the dominant MegaCorp on Earth.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''River ''Sea of Pain'' Sorrows'' does this to fix some commonly-mentioned fan complaints about ''Film/AlienResurrection''. Not only is the ending of said film directly addressed (it nearly caused [[NoEndorHolocaust another Ice Age]] because of its damage to the planet), but Weyland-Yutani's fate is reversed by having it reform and resume its role as the dominant MegaCorp on Earth.
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* ContestedSequel: Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that the books are now canon to the film's universe). ''Shadows'', for example, has to pull some pretty impressive last-minute DeusExMachina|s to get Ripley [[StatusQuoIsGod back to the exact same point]] she was at the end of ''Film/{{Alien}}'', so she can be picked up in time for ''Film/{{Aliens}}''.

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* ContestedSequel: Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that the books are now canon to the film's universe). ''Shadows'', for example, has to pull some pretty impressive last-minute DeusExMachina|s {{Deus Ex Machina}}s to get Ripley [[StatusQuoIsGod back to the exact same point]] she was at the end of ''Film/{{Alien}}'', so she can be picked up in time for ''Film/{{Aliens}}''.
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* ContestedSequel: Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that the books are now canon to the film's universe).

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* ContestedSequel: Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that the books are now canon to the film's universe). ''Shadows'', for example, has to pull some pretty impressive last-minute DeusExMachina|s to get Ripley [[StatusQuoIsGod back to the exact same point]] she was at the end of ''Film/{{Alien}}'', so she can be picked up in time for ''Film/{{Aliens}}''.



* HarsherInHindsight: Ripley's nightmares about her daughter Amanda getting attacked by the Xenomorphs are far more frightening given that Alien Isolation has that exact thing happening.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Ripley's nightmares about her daughter Amanda getting attacked by the Xenomorphs are far more frightening given that Alien Isolation ''VideoGame/AlienIsolation'' has that exact thing happening. And given that Ripley's nigtmares in ''Shadows'' occur after she'd been in hypersleep for 37 years. . . the events of that game had ''already'' happened.
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** In ''Shadows'', Dr. Kasyanov climbs into a medpod similar to the one from ''Prometheus'' to have it treat her injuries. Instead, Ash overrides the programming and - while Hooper is stuck watching - uses the laser scalpels to butcher Kasyanov to death without anesthesia.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Ripley's nightmares about her daughter Amanda getting attacked by the Xenomorphs are far more frightening given that Alien Isolation has that exact thing happening.
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* ContestedSequel: To the extent that it qualifies as a BaseBreaker. Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that the books are now canon to the film's universe).

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* ContestedSequel: To the extent that it qualifies as a BaseBreaker. Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that the books are now canon to the film's universe).
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''River of Pain'' does this to fix some commonly-mentioned fan complaints about ''Film/AlienResurrection''. Not only is the ending of said film directly addressed (it nearly caused [[NoEndorHolocaust another Ice Age]] because of its damage to the planet), but Weyland-Yutani's fate is reversed by having it reform and resume its role as the dominant MegaCorp on Earth.
* ContestedSequel: To the extent that it qualifies as a BaseBreaker. Some people enjoyed the books, but others criticized them for playing fast and loose with continuity (despite 20th Century Fox declaring that the books are now canon to the film's universe).
* NightmareFuel:
** The group's trek through the mine on LV-178 in ''Shadows''. Stuck in a dimly-lit mine, with the only escape route being on the ''other'' side of it, and having to battle their way through xenos at the same time.
** The attack on Hadley's, especially from the colonist's perspective. Members of their group start getting [[VerticalKidnapping abducted]] during their attempts to barricade the facility, and their LastStand culminates in a horde of them invading the last room they holed themselves up in. Newt gets to watch as her mother is killed by a xeno and her brother sprayed with acid blood before she escapes into the ventilation system.
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