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%%* ''Film/IronMan1'':

* ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'':
** Bruce Banner is on the run. That's because he experimented with gamma radiation in an effort to recreate Dr. Erskine's Captain America formula, only to turn into a [[BuffySpeak giant green rage monster]] instead. The commanding officer in charge of Banner's project, General Thaddeus Ross, wants to contain him as a weapon and to exploit his potential.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Ross would do what S.H.I.E.L.D. later does with considerably less collateral damage and negative PR: track down Banner, talk calmly to him as a scientist and not a monster, and offer some fringe benefits to being a guinea pig. Not to mention that his attacking Bruce is straining his relationship with his daughter, Betty Ross, who got injured as a result of the gamma experiments.\\
'''Instead''': Every time he gets as much as a whiff of Bruce's various locations, Ross sends in special armed forces to utilize brute force and MoreDakka.\\
'''Result:''' This inevitably triggers Bruce's unwilling transformations into the Hulk, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking which causes immense property damage, danger to civilian and military lives, and Betty's wrath.]] And no, Ross does not learn. The one time he actually manages to handcuff Bruce is when the latter has just taken a potential antidote, which suppresses the transformation until Bruce needs to change again to save New York from the Abomination. In ''The Avengers'', when Natasha talks to Bruce and offers him a job because of his gamma knowledge, she's much more successful in persuading him.\\
'''Even Worse''': Ross even send his troops after Banner outside the United States,[[note]]Brazil in the movie[[/note]] where he has no jurisdiction, risking a diplomatic incident between the United States and whatever country Banner currently is.
** For an example of this, General Ross has received word that Bruce will be at Culver University. This is his chance to capture him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Ross to order his men to try to capture Bruce stealthily, so that he'll have less time to become agitated and thus transform, and to prevent student and faculty panic on the campus.\\
'''Instead''': He orders all his men to charge into the university in broad daylight.\\
'''Result:''' Bruce and Betty are alerted, the army's arrival causes chaos amongst the students and teachers, and terrifies Bruce enough that he transforms soon after they get to him. [[StuffBlowingUp Then that leads to several million dollars in property damage]]...
** After throwing everything they have at the Hulk, Ross orders Blonsky to fall back. Blonsky personally emptied a grenade launcher at the Hulk, and while he did an admirable job at not getting killed, he did no lasting damage. Even with his recent enhancements, he's clearly outmatched.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Blonsky to fall back, get bigger guns, and try again later. At this point, the biggest weapon he may have is a pistol, which might tickle the Hulk. \\
'''Instead''': He lets his love for a good fight get the better of him, so he asks "Is that all you've got?" as if to tempt the Hulk.\\
'''As A Result''': A single kick from the giant green rage monster breaks every bone in Blonsky's skeleton.

%%* ''Film/IronMan2'':

%%* ''Film/Thor'':

* ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'':
** Steve Rogers is recovering from about 70 years on ice. The powers that be elect to lessen the shock by placing him in a mock-up of a recovery room and not letting on how much time he had been out until they could perhaps break things to him gently.\\
'''You Would Think:''' At bare minimum, they would have the "radio" playing period music or if they insisted on a "live sports broadcast" they would take painstaking research to pick one that took place after Rogers vanished.\\
'''Instead:''' They have a Brooklyn Dodgers home game from ''1941'' playing. Even if they did not know Steve had attended it is a matter of public record that he was still ''living in Brooklyn'' at the time. There are some fans, though, who actually believe that the mistakes in the mock recovery room were intentional. Fury implies that it was, calling it a "party trick".

* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'':
** Loki arrives at Earth and brainwashes [[spoiler:Clint Barton (aka Hawkeye)]], [[spoiler:Eric Selvig]], and another agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. Fury is the only person in the room that is not brainwashed, and Loki wants the Cosmic Cube.\\
'''You'd Think''': Loki would find value in Nick Fury and brainwash him as well, since he is the director of S.H.I.E.L.D. He can then have Fury as his puppet and manipulate S.H.I.E.L.D. so that he can get away with his plans. And then the Avengers would never have been assembled. If he eventually thinks Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. are no longer valuable, he could then pull off a "YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness" on both SHIELD and Fury.\\
'''Instead''': He doesn't value Fury at all, only viewing him as an ant. He only takes the briefcase, leaving [[spoiler:Hawkeye]] to kill Fury. He fails to do so, and Fury survives to lead the fight against Loki.
** Thor also arrives, intent on bringing Loki home. He and Asgard thought that his brother was dead and had mourned him. Even though he's been cut off from Earth, he's heard "whispers" of what his brother has done.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Thor would signal his intentions to arrive peacefully. Nick Fury mentions that the first time Thor arrived, Loki sent a Destroyer that would have killed dozens. So Asgardians haven't exactly made a good first impression.\\
'''Instead''': Thor rips open the Avengers jet and abducts Loki.\\
'''The Result''': Tony gets angry and attacks Thor, telling them, "Then don't steal my stuff." Thor and he engage in a brawl, as a smirking Loki [[PassThePopcorn watches]]. Steve has to talk them down, after Thor levels a forest.
** Loki has won round one of his confrontation with the Avengers. He busted out of SHIELD custody, awakened the Hulk to cause chaos, and sent Thor falling to Earth. Tony and Steve figure out that he must be using the new Stark Tower to headline the Chitauri invasion; Tony goes ahead to face the god, while Steve helps Natasha and Hawkeye, who was freed from Loki's brainwashing. Loki is waiting for Tony at the tower, who decides to take off his damaged suit and orders JARVIS to prepare the upgrade fast. With a smirk, Loki starts taunting Tony about begging for mercy. Tony retorts, while headed to the tower bar, that he's actually going to threaten him. Loki follows, in an EvilGloating mode.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Loki to realize that if Tony is indeed stalling, to just cut to the chase and either try to brainwash him or kill him. Tony has shown he has firepower, and enough snark to turn the Hudson River into the Dead Sea. He must be stalling for a reason. Maybe accepting the drink that Tony offers will be a good idea, since the invasion hasn't started yet and Tony has good taste in hard liquor.\\
'''Instead''': He doesn't even acknowledge the shotglasses or vintages available and instead hears Tony out about how the god has managed to piss off all the Avengers. Only after Tony makes a BadassBoast does Loki try to brainwash him, telling him the Avengers will be fighting Iron Man instead.\\
'''The Result''': The delay was all the time needed for the suit to come and save Tony, just as Loki realizes the "glowstick of destiny" is a NoSell on Tony due to his heart device and tosses him out the window for commenting on Loki's "performance issues". Jarvis sends the suit flying in to knock down Loki, and stabilizes Tony before he splats on the ground. On top of that, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Loki doesn't get that drink when he requests it at the end of the movie]], according to ''Avengers Endgame''. 
* ''Film/IronMan3'':
** After the explosion at the TCL Chinese Theater, Tony Stark personally declares war on the Mandarin and dares him to attack Tony, and then goes home.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Tony to take precautions and ready his house for defense at ''all'' times, and put on a fully operational and perfected Iron Man suit (i.e The Mark VII), in case there's the off chance the enemy suddenly attacks. Either that, or at least get Pepper Potts out of harm's way. If anything, just relocate to another place as soon as possible.\\
'''Instead''': Tony sits around and waits for the attack, and the only precaution he takes is going into an ineffective lockdown.\\
'''Just To Add the Icing on the Cake:''' It turns out J.A.R.V.I.S. is capable of controlling all of the Iron Man suits at once. Meaning Tony could have had an army defending his house but decided to keep all of them in storage.
** Rhodey gets captured by Aldrich Killian's men, and is forced out of the Iron Patriot suit by Killian's Extremis Heat. They then knock him out unconscious.\\
'''You'd Think''': Killian or one of his goons would either a.) tie him up so that he can't escape the mansion, or b.) since he is a trained soldier, and a potential enemy, shoot him dead.\\
'''Instead''': They just leave him there (assuming Tony's not an UnreliableNarrator, that is).\\
'''Result''' Rhodey eventually regains consciousness and links up with Tony, who also has escaped captivity as well.
** After the above moment, Eric Savin, Killian's main henchman, uses the Iron Patriot suit to pose as Rhodes and infiltrate Air Force One. He arrives at Air Force One as President Ellis gets on board.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Before taking off, the Secret Service guys to make the guy take off his helmet to confirm that the man in the Iron Patriot suit is in fact Colonel Rhodes, seeing as the exact suit had been commandeered in the previous movie), and find out that it's Savin and incapacitate him or at least blow his cover, thus averting disaster.\\
'''Instead''': They don't even bother to check and just assume Rhodes was still in the suit.\\
'''Additionally:''' This very suit being hijacked was a major part of the plot in the previous movie. And Rhodes had been AWOL for about half a day. \\
'''The Result''': Savin manages to attack and destroy Air Force One, and has President Ellis kidnapped in the Iron Patriot suit.
** The final battle. On [[TheHero Tony's]] side we have Tony, [[MilitarySuperhero Rhodey]], and a load of [[PowerArmor Power Armors]] much like the ones Tony wears, remotely controlled by J.A.R.V.I.S., while on Killian's side we have a load of superhumans who can regenerate from damage, and make parts of their bodies extremely hot. Tony has encountered them before, so he knows what they're capable of, and he's here to rescue two hostages.\\
'''You'd Expect''': J.A.R.V.I.S. to keep the suits out of range of the minions, and bombard them with repulsor rays, in order to keep them distracted while Tony and Rhodes rescue the hostages.\\
'''Instead''': The suits controlled by J.A.R.V.I.S. are often seen getting into punch-ups with the minions, and a number of them are torn apart a a result, with only a few memorable ones surviving.
* ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld''
** A multi-pronged surprise attack leaves Asgard damaged (but not crippled), with their RedShirtArmy having taken not insignificant losses, but with almost all named characters (save for Frigga) fine and Asgard still in possession of the Aether. Odin, enraged at the attack, wants to take the fight to the Dark Elves to eliminate them.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Knowing that the Dark Elves' attack relied on their element of surprise, and their numbers still nowhere near that of Asgard, the Aether is still safest there and to put Jane Foster into protective custody until the threat is dealt with.\\
'''Instead:''' Thor disagrees with Odin on hunting the elves, and instead decides to take Jane Foster to the Dark Elves' home turf himself against Odin's orders, in the process knowingly losing every single ally they have other than [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Loki]], whom they free specifically for this mission.\\
'''As a result:''' The Dark Elves get the Aether, Loki is seemingly killed (but in reality he faked his death and usurped the throne of Asgard by taking Odin's place).

* ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''
** Steve receives a top-secret flash drive from Nick Fury after he is shot by the Winter Soldier. The flash drive contains S.H.I.E.L.D. secrets of the highest priority, and Steve is advised to not trust anybody. Shortly thereafter, at the hospital, after Nick is presumed dead, he's told to report to a meeting and doesn't want to have whoever is there finding the drive. Looking around, he spots a vending machine that's currently open to be filled with snacks.\\
'''You'd Expect''': If hiding it in the vending machine is the only option, for Steve to hide it where it would be completely hidden, such as the last row of bags of chips.\\
'''Instead''': Steve hides the flash drive in the vending machine between the two packs of gum left. And he leaves the drive tilted such that, if anyone actually wanted to purchase said gum as they scanned the machine's wares, the drive is clearly visible.\\
'''Result:''' He gets lucky in that one of his allies, Black Widow, finds it first, but it was a close call.
** Having seen one of HYDRA's footage, Steve realize that they are responsible for arranging the deaths of Tony's parents.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Since Steve does not like to keep secrets, him to reach out to Tony after the current crisis is resolved and mention what he's learned. If Tony demands to know the exact circumstances of their deaths, he would simply head over to a HYDRA facility and examine the culprit of his parent's killer.\\
'''Instead:''' Steve decides to keep Tony in the dark and never tells him any of this while they're working to bring down Strucker during ''Age of Ultron''.\\
'''Result:''' This ends up biting him in the ass in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' [[spoiler: when Tony finds out who murdered his parents at the worst moment possible, which leads to Tony going completely ballistic and attacking Bucky, ignoring Cap's protest to calm down and also ends up destroying their friendship (until the Time Heist in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'')]]. Even if Steve doesn't know who exactly killed Tony's parents, having Tony know the circumstances behind his parent's death from Cap would have drastically soften the blow, possibly even enough for Tony to calm down and capture [[BigBad Zemo]] instead.

* ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''
** Near the end of the movie, Ronan the Accuser's ship crashes onto the surface of Xandar, he survives the crash, and is going to annihilate Xandar with the Power Stone.\\
'''You'd Think''': Ronan would immediately use the Power Stone and annihilate the planet without gloating, especially since Quill and his buds are still alive, and still would pose even the slightest threat to his agenda.\\
'''Instead''': Ronan takes his sweet time to gloat and mock the Guardians before annihilating Xandar.\\
'''Result:''' Which gives our heroes enough time to improvise a distraction so they can separate him from the Infinity Stone.

* ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''
** Wanda and Pietro Maximoff blame Tony for indirectly murdering their parents, as his company [[Series/WandaVision built the missiles that destroyed their family's apartment]]. They are the Hydra base's last weapon, hiding in the shadows. Wanda has both telekinesis and can trap people in their worst nightmares. She says she wants to see Tony Stark destroy himself after she mind-rapes Iron Man. \\
'''You'd Expect''': Wanda would have thought through her revenge so that it doesn't cost innocent lives. She's been a Hydra weapon for years, so it's safe to assume that she has some knowledge of planning things out for the long-term. So, as soon as Tony is alone, she fires a blast of her magic and turns Tony's head into chunky salsa.\\
'''Instead''': Wanda lets Tony loose to watch him hang himself with the rope she gave him, after she lets him go. Then she does the same after mind-raping every one of the Avengers, including Bruce Banner.\\
'''The Result''': Rather than destroy Tony Stark, Ultron is born and nearly destroys the planet, the Hulk goes on a rampage in Johannesburg, and Wanda indirectly gets her brother killed.

* ''Film/AntMan1''
** Scott Lang has just been released from prison. His ex-wife has told him that if he wants to see their daughter again, he has to pay accrued child support. Even though he has a master's degree, Scott can only find a job at Baskin-Robbins.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Scott to come clean about his criminal past. Most companies are willing to hire people with a criminal record as long as they are honest about it.\\
'''Instead''': Scott doesn't.\\
'''Result:''' [[MemeticMutation Baskin-Robbins always finds out]]. And though his boss is sympathetic, he still has to fire Scott for legal reasons.
** Hank Pym has profiled Scott as a potential thief to use the Ant-Man suit in a heist, to keep the Pym technology out of corporate hands. This is because Scott went to jail for exposing white collar crime. Scott in the meantime is trying to avoid going back to the criminal life, because he wants to go straight for his daughter's sake.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Hank would invite Scott over to his place for an interview, and give him a test: break into his house and steal a valuable suitcase, or do some other sort of audition. If Scott avoids getting caught, the job is his. If he fails, Scott technically hasn't committed a crime and would keep his mouth shut because he is against white collar crime, and people using dangerous technology.\\
'''Instead''': Hank pays several people to spread a rumor that reaches Scott's ears about a valuable safe in his house.\\
'''Result:''' Scott breaks in, tries on the Ant-Man suit, and he gets arrested when he breaks in again to return it. Hank helps bust him out, while posing as his lawyer, but it means that Scott is pretty much forced into the position and remains in hiding as a fugitive from the law and from his daughter's stepfather Paxton (who's a police detective). And when they do the heist, a suspicious Paxton recognizes Hank and nearly thwarts the whole deal. Paxton also arrests Scott later when the latter fights the Yellowjacket.

* ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''
** People across the world are afraid of the power the Avengers wield and the collateral damage they cause, and the nations of the world band together to pass the Sokovia Accords to deal with them. \\
'''You'd Expect''': The President of the United States would appoint an accomplished diplomat to approach the Avengers to respectfully persuade them that signing the accords would only further their goal of making the world safer. \\
'''Instead''': The President appoints Thaddeus Ross. A man who believes [[FantasticRacist all enhanced individuals are government property]], who is so incompetent that his long quest to capture the Hulk not only failed but inadvertently led to the creation of the Abomination, who is so predictable that Coulson easily pulled a BatmanGambit on him, who is so [[HateSink universally despised]] that even his own daughter Betty wants nothing to do with him, and who commands so little respect that even Tony Stark and James Rhodes, who willingly signed the Accords, don't hesitate to hang up on him when they don't feel like dealing with his bullshit. \\
'''The Result:''' The Avengers broke up and left the world vulnerable to Thanos.
** Ross tries to get the Avengers to sign the Sokovia Accords. \\
'''You'd Expect''': Him to focus on the battle against Ultron and the hospital, and to maybe offer benefits to the Avengers such as better funding and equipment, public support, etc. They could even offer training for Wanda in how to use her magic more carefully. \\
'''Instead''': He focuses on the Hulk's rampage through Harlem (which was mostly his and The Abomination's fault), the Battle of New York (whereas the World Security Council's idea was to just nuke the whole city instead of sending troops to fight alongside the Avengers), and the destruction of the Triskelion (which, if not for Steve and Natasha, would've been much worse). No wonder the Avengers aren't happy about signing it.\\
'''The Result:''' This causes the Avengers to become even more split on the Accords, with some supporting it like Tony or Natasha (albeit reluctantly in her case), and others vehemently opposing it like Steve and Sam. This culminates in a ''huge'' battle between the Avengers that wrecks ''a whole airport,'' resulting in all the people on Steve's side being incarcerated.
** Wanda, while on an Avengers mission, ends up causing an explosion that kills a bunch of Wakandan humanitarian workers. She's extremely regretful about it, while Steve tells her it was his fault for not leading well, and the team knows that it's NotHelpingYourCase after what happened with Ultron. Wanda also as a result becomes a public menace, and feared.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That given Wanda's track record and her image, that the entire team would sit and discuss how to handle the situation, and what to do with Wanda. She did mess up, Tony points out she doesn't have a visa and thus is in danger every time she leaves Avengers headquarters, and unlike the others, including Black Widow who has "red in her ledger" and Hawkeye who was brainwashed by Loki into assisting with mass murder, she doesn't have a low profile.\\
'''Instead''': Tony decides how to handle it on his own, despite having resigned from the Avengers following his failure with Ultron. He orders Vision to keep Wanda in the HQ without telling her until she offers to buy spices for Vision. \\
'''The Result:''' While the punishment is light considering the collateral damage Wanda caused and that the HQ is a GildedCage with appropriate protection, his lack of communication drives further rifts in the team. Wanda takes offense at being treated like a naughty child, Steve is furious that Tony enforced the house arrest without telling anyone, including Wanda, and Hawkeye finds the situation absurd when he comes to bust her out.
** Falcon recruits Scott Lang aka Ant-Man to help Steve take down super soldiers. Falcon also tells Scott that this trip is an illegal endeavor due to the Sokovia Accords and if they get caught then Scott is back in jail.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Scott to have talked the trip out with Hope and Hank, since Hank wants to hide the Pym Technology from the world for fear of others exploiting its military potential, and Hope agrees with her father on this one. Also, as Hope later mentions, if she had gone with Scott, he wouldn't have been busted or imprisoned.\\
'''Instead''': Scott went without talking to either family member because it's freaking Captain America asking him to join the Avengers. After the airport battle, he gets jailed and then busted out by Cap, who lets him go home to his family rather than seek sanctuary in Wakanda.\\
'''The Result''': The Pym technology gets outed, forcing father and daughter on the run, and Hank gives a WhatTheHellHero to Scott about it in ''Ant-Man and the Wasp''. Hope also calls out Scott, saying that at least he could have given her the choice to accompany him.

* ''Film/DoctorStrange2016''
** Stephen Strange is currently driving in the middle of a roadway while it is dark and rainy, and has received a phone call from his colleague regarding three potential patients that he can operate on.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Strange realize that texting in the middle of driving is a really, ''really'', '''really''' bad idea and just tell the caller he is currently driving and could not respond at the moment. Or if he really needs to respond, he find some place to park so he can reply safely with little risks of an accident. Or, for a compromise, call the person and put them on speaker- you communicate with them while still having both hands on the wheels.\\
'''Instead:''' Strange - something of an adrenaline junkie -decides to text ''while'' driving in the middle of a tight road and in a bad weather condition.\\
'''The Result:''' Strange gets into a ''bad'' accident, severely damaging his hands, and begins the TraumaCongaLine that is to follow.

* ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'':
** The film begins with the Guardians battling a massive space monster. The team eventually notice that the monster's skin is too tough to cut, and so Drax allows himself to be swallowed by it in order to...\\
'''You'd Expect:''' ...target the monster's internal organs.\\
'''Instead:''' He tries to cut the monster's skin from the inside. As pointed out by Peter and Gamora moments later, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome the skin's just as thick on one side as it is the other]].\\
'''Result:''' Drax is left fruitlessly hacking away at the monster's skin, before Peter and Gamora kill the monster without any help from him.
** After the exchange is made for Nebula's life, Rocket nearly gets the team killed by insulting the Sovereign. They walk out, lucky to have avoided a fight.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Once the job's done, the Guardians would just take Nebula and leave, right?\\
'''Instead:''' [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Rocket]] decides to steal some very valuable anulax batteries from the Sovereign, simply to get back at them for their snobbery, and because he felt like it. [[{{Hypocrite}} This after he called Drax out for siccing Ronan on the Guardians for the sake of his personal revenge in the last movie.]]\\
'''Result:''' Rocket's pointless idiocy does nothing but cause massive problems for him and his friends. The Sovereign are incredibly offended by the theft, respond by sending ''an entire armada'' after the Guardians. In the resultant chase, the Guardians crash land on Berhart. The Sovereign then hire Yondu and his Ravagers to go after the Guardians, and thanks to the busted ship, he manages to capture both Rocket and Groot. The only reason the other Guardians aren't captured is because they all left with Ego earlier. Yondu has no intentions of handing the Guardians over to the Sovereign, and the reveal of this leads to Taserface inciting a mutiny within the crew, in which Yondu is overthrown, his loyalists are all executed, and the new leadership has no intention of being nice towards the Guardians.\\
'''To Make Matters Worse:''' And as a [[SarcasmMode bonus]], thanks to a tipoff from Taserface in his dying moments, the Sovereign armada shows up during the final battle and nearly screw things up for the Guardians and as a result of their attack, Peter's mask is damaged and Yondu has to sacrifice his life to save him when Ego is destroyed. Their arrival also contributes to the deaths of thousands more people as their interference delays the heroes' destruction of Ego's brain, allowing the Expansion to continue.
** After their successful mutiny and takeover of Yondu's ship, the Ravagers lock him and Rocket together in the brig. Yondu's crest was damaged by Nebula during the revolt, so he can't use his Yaka arrow against the mutineers. However, [[BreakOutTheMuseumPiece he does still have a prototype crest in his quarters as a backup]]. The Ravagers not only know about the crest, but also know exactly where Yondu keeps it.\\
'''You'd Think:''' The Ravagers would have destroyed that crest, too. Or at the very least, changed where it's hidden.\\
'''Instead:''' They don't.\\
'''Result:''' Yondu and Rocket have Baby Groot acquire the crest, and Rocket reinstalls it on Yondu's head. To the mutineers' credit, Taserface does raise the alarm immediately upon waking up and finding it missing. Unfortunately, by that point, "Come A Little Bit Closer" has started to play over the ship's PA system...
** At the end of the movie, after they've had time to reconcile and battle out their frustrations, [[spoiler:Nebula tells Gamora that she intends to go and kill their father. Gamora tells her that Nebula could stay and become part of the team, to build a new family the way that Drax has]].\\
'''You'd Expect''': [[spoiler:Nebula to take the offer. While she thinks that the boys spend all their time competing makes them ridiculous and shortsighted, they all just survived an apocalypse. Also, if they do have to face Thanos, they will face him as a team so that Nebula won't be alone.]]\\
'''Instead''': [[spoiler:Nebula turns down the offer. Gamora reluctantly lets her go, after hugging her and promising they will always be sisters.]]\\
'''The Result''': In ''Infinity War'', [[spoiler:Thanos takes Nebula hostage when she sneaks onto his ship in a bid to assassinate him. He tortures Nebula in front of a captive Gamora, to get Gamora to reveal the location of the Soul Stone. Gamora, who feels guilty that she didn't protect Nebula from the forced cybernetic upgrades when they were children, can't bear to see her sister ripped limb from limb and leads Thanos to the right location. It ultimately means that Gamora dies instead of Nebula, who when she finds out has [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone much regret over her earlier choice]]. In addition, because Gamora dies, Thanos gets the Soul Stone, which allows him to perform The Snap]].

* ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'':
** The beginning of the movie reveals that Tony recruited Spider-Man to help with a "crazy" Captain America. After the mission, and Peter's been badly concussed, Tony tells Peter to call Happy as a liaison guy. Happy is less than amused since Peter took an embarrassing video of him and he has to move the Avengers headquarters upstate.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That even with the Civil War fracas, Tony and Happy would keep tabs on Peter and prepare him for more challenging missions than bicycle thieves in Queens. Avengers headquarters would have a training field, and there are lots of weird stuff happening all over the country. Or, even better, recruit Pepper for her advice and help since she knows how to ground uncontrollable people. If no one is available, Tony could find someone who would be a more suitable liaison.\\
'''Instead''': Tony and Happy leave Peter in the lurch, neither returning his calls or texts for two months. Happy refuses to listen when Peter reports the high-tech bank robbery. Tony appears via a remote suit when the Vulture nearly drowns Peter, and pretty much shuts him out of the strange case.\\
'''Result:''' Peter is understandably annoyed that both men are treating him like a kid; while he is one, he is also more than capable.\\
'''Also:''' When Tony realizes that Peter disabled the suit's tracking device and is going after the Vulture alone at the Staten Island Ferry, where the FBI are waiting, Peter hangs up on him while preparing to attack. Spider-Man and everyone on the ferry nearly die from the ensuing fight. In the call, Tony ''says'' he's worried he's becoming like his late, distant father, and he wants to do better, but it's already too late. All he can do is show up and mitigate the disaster.
** Peter also wants to become an Avenger. Tony refuses and wants Peter to stay "close to the ground".\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Tony would explain that since Peter is a minor, if he joined the Avengers he'd have to sign the Sokovia Accords. Since he's a minor, that would mean Aunt May would have to sign for him. This is a plausible explanation, since Peter doesn't want Aunt May to know. It's obvious by the end that Tony can override this legal problem, but Peter doesn't know that.\\
'''Instead''': Tony just goes BecauseISaidSo. Peter thinks that he has to prove to Tony that he's good enough to be an Avenger. This leads to the Staten Ferry fiasco, and to him getting locked into a Damage Control warehouse.
** Peter wants to tackle something a little more challenging than grand theft bicycles, as well as prove himself to Tony for the awesome factor of being close with other heroes, but can't find anything simply patrolling the streets of Queens.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Peter would start patrolling worse neighborhoods in New York, which are many now thanks to the destruction caused by the Incident, where he can probably stop more serious, but still not very dangerous to him crimes and/or try to reach out to publicly known New York heroes like [Series/Daredevil2015 Matt Murdock]], [[Series/JessicaJones2015 Jessica Jones]] or [[Series/LukeCage2016 Luke Cage]], who have both tackled real supervillains like Kilgrave and huge crime syndicates like those of Wilson Fisk, the Hand, Cottonmouth, and Diamondback, despite having only a fraction of his power. That way, he'd be earning himself a reputation quickly, and could even prove himself to Tony by having his own sort of-Avengers team.[[note]]Admittedly this might not be doable if one assumes ''Homecoming'' takes place between ''Daredevil'' season 2 and ''The Defenders'', a period of time where Matt wasn't Daredeviling out of guilt over Elektra's death, and while Luke was imprisoned at Seagate prison in Georgia waiting for Foggy to get his conviction appealed and charges thrown out.[[/note]]\\
'''Instead:''' He keeps patrolling Queens and helping old ladies who buy him churros, and then calls Happy and Tony to tell them about his mundane adventures everyday, ensuring they don't take him seriously. A real threat in the form of Vulture's weapons eventually leads him to make himself known and he proves himself, but nearly dies several times in the process, and gets no help from the other New York heroes.
** After school, Peter changes into his Spider-Man suit so he can go on patrol and stuffs his street clothes and personal items in his backpack.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Peter would use his powers to go up to one of the building roofs and leave his backpack there where no one will find or reach it, like in the comics.\\
'''Instead:''' He leaves his backpack next to a dumpster in the alley and by the time he gets back, it's been stolen.\\
'''Worse:''' This is the ''fifth time'' it's happened. And Peter's not an idiot.
** After skipping the Prom, Peter tracks down Vulture [[spoiler: who is revealed to be Liz's dad Adrian Toomes]] to his hideout and learns that he's planning to rob a Stark Industries cargo plane. Pete confronts Vulture and webs his left hand to a table to keep him from moving. While he's webbed up, Adrian tries to justify his crimes with a speech about how the rich "don't care about people" like himself and Peter.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Pete wouldn't waste time listening and web up Adrian's other hand and his feet [[ShutUpHannibal (and maybe his mouth so he can shut up)]] and ''immediately'' call 911, pretty much defeating him right there.\\
'''Instead:''' Peter gets distracted and stalls long enough for Adrian to summon his Vulture suit.\\
'''The Result:''' Vulture uses his suit to collapse the building and trap Spider-Man underneath the rubble. Pete only survives due to his super-strength and sheer willpower. He does eventually catch Vulture, but only after an insanely dangerous battle aboard the cargo plane that nearly gets both of them killed.
** Tony returns the suit he gave to Peter, who doesn't want Aunt May to know his superhero alter ego.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Peter to close and/or lock his door when putting the suit on in case Aunt May comes in.\\
'''Instead:''' He leaves it wide open, allowing Aunt May to see him wearing the suit and letting her know he's Spider-Man.

* ''Film/ThorRagnarok''
** Eons ago, [[spoiler: Odin had a daughter, Hela. They conquered many worlds together until Odin either no longer found her useful or had a HeelRealization. Hela didn't agree with his newfound approach to peace, so he sealed her away. She will be freed when he dies, and she will claim her birthright in Asgard]].\\
'''You'd Expect''': Odin would have warned his sons ''way'' before [[spoiler:his death]]. They had all the time in the world to prepare for this battle.\\
'''Instead''': Odin [[spoiler:didn't, finding Hela's legacy shameful.]]\\
'''The Result''': Hela curbstomps her [[spoiler:younger brothers]] before they can even put up a decent fight. She then invades Asgard and starts slaughtering anyone who goes against her. [[spoiler:Heimdall is the OnlySaneMan who starts rescuing the Asgardian ctiizens and hiding them.]]
** [[spoiler:Loki has been impersonating Odin between movies.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': He would keep his ego in check.\\
'''Instead''': [[spoiler:Loki starts up BreadAndCircuses while ordering Asgard to mourn him, building statues of himself and performing dramas of his (faked) death. He also banishes Sif, who would have seen through the ruse.]]\\
'''The Result''': Thor busts him. Also, as the only positive consequence, Sif is spared [[spoiler:when Hela emerges and slaughters Thor's friends and allies, only to be wiped out by Thanos's fingersnap]].

* ''Film/BlackPanther2018''
** King T'Chaka has sent his brother, Prince N'Jobu, to the United States to spy on the world. He is dismayed by the ways in which black people are oppressed in the United States, and the way law enforcement crack down on their attempts at organized resistance and community building. N'Jobu also knows that T'Chaka and the Wakandan council would never agree because of the Wakandan policy to keep their technology and wealth a secret.\\
'''You'd Expect''': N'Jobu would use his assets as a wealthy prince to surreptitiously fund communities in need of breakfasts, proper education and such, the way his nephew T'Challa does later on as the king with his community centers.\\
'''You'd Also Expect:''' That N'Jobu would choose a partner for his venture who doesn't have a personal grudge against Wakanda.\\
'''Instead''': N'Jobu sells out Wakandan vibranium to Ulysses Klaue, an arms dealer who holds a grudge against Wakanda after his family got killed, with the intention of using the vibranium to build weapons to supply the black communities with.\\
'''The Result''': Klaue kills thousands of Wakandans while stealing the vibranium, and he reneges on the deal with N'Jobu. T'Chaka busts N'Jobu and demands an explanation, and kills him on the spur of the moment when N'Jobu pulls a gun and tries to kill the spy who sold him out. No one wins, except Klaue.\\
'''To Add to It:''' N'Jobu in a roundabout way causes his brother's death, as Klaue sells the vibranium decades later to Ultron, who uses the vibranium in his plot to wipe out Sokovia, killing Zemo's family, and Zemo responds by carrying out a bombing that kills T'Chaka.
** N'Jobu also fathered a child, Erik, out of wedlock. The woman is currently imprisoned and later executed for her supposed crimes; N'Jobu raises his son Erik alone, with maybe "Uncle James" aka Wakanda War Dog Zuri for help. Due to the Wakandan secrecy policy, the royal council would be against the child coming "home".\\
'''You'd Expect''': N'Jobu would have prepared paperwork to assign Erik a proper guardian, send him to his mother's family, or go to T'Chaka and demand that his brother legitimize Erik as a potential heir to the throne. As a spy, and as someone who is committing treason against the throne, he has to think of his child's well-being if the worst-case scenario happens.\\
'''You'd Also Expect''': Knowing that he has a nephew, that T'Chaka would make some arrangements for Erik to have a guardian, or ''take Erik with him'' when demanding N'Jobu return to Wakanda to explain why he sold out the vibranium to Klaue.\\
'''Instead''': Unless Zuri was Erik's godfather, we don't see any forward planning apart from Erik's glowing Wakanda tattoo. Thus, when T'Chaka and Zuri abandon Erik, he has no one. Erik as a preteen suffers the worst of AdultFear when he sees the departing ship, senses something is wrong and runs into his apartment. He finds his father dead from panther claw wounds. It means he grows up without anyone looking out for him in the Bay Area, not even his mother.\\
'''The Result''': As an adult, Erik gets recruited into the US Army, and he becomes scarily efficient at deposing governments, while obtaining a degree at MIT. This knowledge and experience, combined with Erik's drive for revenge, causes him to, as an adult, nearly destroy Wakanda and twist what his father ultimately wanted. N'Jobu in the afterlife realizes this when Erik talks to him, in child and adult form. T'Challa, Erik's cousin, is ''beyond'' furious when he hears what his father and Zuri did and decides to end the Wakandan isolationism.
** In the climax, T'Challa appears after he's been presumed dead and Killmonger has been crowned. He demands for Erik to finish the challenge one-on-one. Erik by this point doesn't care about tradition and orders W'Kabi to set his men on T'Challa. Okoye protests, saying Erik showing no honor means he has no right to be king and W'Kabi shouldn't enable him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': While W'Kabi is supporting Killmonger, he's also been shown as respecting tradition and his wife, so either he should tell Erik to finish the challenge or go himself to honor it so it's still fair. At least it would show W'Kabi still has some honor.\\
'''Instead''': He orders his men to fight his king ''and'' summons rhinos when T'Challa and the Dora Milaje fight back.\\
'''Predictably''': Okoye, most of the Dora Millage, and the Border Tribe end up clashing because Okoye turns her spear on Killmonger. W'Kabi even threatens to kill his wife at one point if she doesn't surrender, if not for M'Baku's timely arrival with the Jabari. This ends up destroying his marriage as Okoye saves M'Baku's life and declares she will kill her husband for Wakanda's safety; W'Kabi looks around, seeing his countrymen dying, and surrenders [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone shocked at what he's done]].\\
'''Afterwards:''' T'Challa, after defeating Killmonger in a fair fight, strips W'Kabi of his council position, replacing him with M'Baku. It's implied he was imprisoned or exiled as of the subsequent Avengers movies.
* ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'':
** Earth is being attacked by aliens, again, and both Vision and Iron Man are MIA. Secretary Ross is videoconferencing with Col. Rhodes (the last Avenger around) when Steve and several other former heroes on the run due largely to administrative disputes show up along with a damaged Vision in Rhodes's office. Steve tells Ross that he's not looking for forgiveness, but he's going to fight the aliens and Ross can either stay out of the way or fight them. Rhodey also points out that while he signed the Accords, he's slowly coming to disagree with them after the events of ''Civil War'' paralyzed him, and especially in light of the fact they caused the Avengers to become divided.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' At absolute worst, a fair bit of posturing. Demand of information and cooperation in exchange for a pass on shenanigans to date or perhaps a head start once the current mess is dealt with. This would reflect poorly on Ross from an objective viewpoint, but at least indicate a grasp of the bigger priorities.\\
'''Instead:''' Ross orders Rhodes (who, even if he wasn't on the verge of a BrokenPedestal, is out of his armor, outnumbered, and can only walk with difficulty) to arrest the lot immediately.\\
'''The Result:''' Rhodes, realizing that [[SkewedPriorities Ross has allowed his hatred of superheroes to cloud his judgment]], quite predictably hangs up in the man's face and [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight goes rogue]].
** The Guardians of the Galaxy have teamed up with Thor to stop Thanos before he can obtain all the Infinity Stones. They plan to split into two groups; Thor and two others will go to Nidavellir to obtain a weapon capable of killing Thanos, while the other three will go to Knowhere to get the Reality Stone from the Collector before Thanos can. Gamora meanwhile knows the location of the Soul Stone, and realizes that Thanos will want to question her about it.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Gamora to go with the group heading to Nidavellir, a place where Thanos has no reason to go. If he's not in the same place as her, he can't get the stone's location from her.\\
'''Instead:''' She joins Quill and the others to Knowhere, which puts her at risk at being kidnapped by Thanos, seemingly because she wants to kill Thanos personally to atone for the crimes she committed as his daughter, and to avenge the abuse that she and Nebula suffered as children.\\
'''Result:''' Thanos leads the group into a trap and captures Gamora, and forces her to lead him to the Soul Stone's location by torturing a captured Nebula, and then he [[spoiler: throws her off a cliff]] in order to obtain the stone. This ends up biting the heroes further down the line; when Quill learns about [[spoiler: Gamora's death]], his rage ends up making him wreck an attempt by Dr. Strange, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Mantis and Drax to get the Infinity Gauntlet off of Thanos' hand, thereby allowing Thanos to beat the group, take the Time Stone from Strange, and leave, leading to the example below.
** The Guardians, Doctor Strange, Iron Man, and Spider-Man have successfully subdued Thanos on Titan. Mantis has sedated him while Nebula is unoccupied. Star Lord interrogates Thanos, demanding to know where Gamora is. Thanos, who had just sacrificed Gamora to get to the Soul Stone, starts mourning, which Mantis picks up on as she's restraining him.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Mantis (and later, Nebula) would keep quiet until Tony and Peter Parker get the Infinity Gauntlet off.\\
'''Instead:''' Mantis tells Quill that "He mourns" and Thanos says "My Gamora". When Quill demands an explanation, Nebula goes ExplainExplainOhCrap. She says aloud, with a MyGodWhatHaveIDone about how Gamora saved her from torture, that Thanos killed Gamora.\\
'''You'd Then Expect:''' Quill to wait for the heroes to finish retrieving the gauntlet before attacking Thanos.\\
'''Or:''' Since Nebula was unoccupied, for her to stop Quill from attacking Thanos.\\
'''Instead(!!!):''' Much like in ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2'' when he learned Ego killed his mother, Quill immediately starts attacking Thanos in a fit of rage, and Nebula doesn't stop Quill before he does so, causing Mantis to lose control of him.\\
'''The Result:''' Thanos manages to retrieve the Gauntlet from Peter Parker, making the entire group effort for nought.
** At the film's climax, Thanos has just assembled all of the Infinity Stones and inserted them into his gauntlet, when Thor suddenly appears and buries his axe deep into Thanos's chest, leaving him critically wounded, but still alive, to which Thor stands over Thanos, gloating about having gotten revenge for Thanos murdering half of the surviving Asgardians on the ''Statesman''.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Thor to immediately withdraw Stormbreaker while Thanos is reeling from his wound, then decapitate him and end the threat once and for all, or use the axe to bludgeon him repeatedly, or at the very least, amputate his left arm so he can't use the gauntlet. Or even just to shock him to death with lightning.\\
'''Instead''': Thor just pushes his axe further into Thanos's chest with the intention of making him die a slow and painful death.\\
'''Result:''' Thanos grins, says, [[LampshadeHanging "you should have gone for the head,"]] and uses the Infinity Gauntlet to ''obliterate half the population of the universe'', including Winter Soldier, Black Panther, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Star Lord, Drax, Groot, Mantis, Dr. Strange, Spider-Man, Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Hank Pym, Hope van Dyne, Wasp, Shuri (as revealed in ''Endgame''), Sharon Carter (as revealed in ''Falcon and the Winter Soldier''), and Hawkeye's entire family ([[WordOfGod plus Betty Ross and Sif, according to the Russo Brothers]]) included. Thor eventually gets PTSD from guilt, and ends up becoming a fat, layabout shlub who drowns his regrets in beer and junk food. [[DownerEnding The End]].

* ''Film/AntManAndTheWasp''
** Hope and Hank are on the run, and trying to save Janet from the quantum realm. They reluctantly recruit Scott, who is under house arrest, when he calls them and says [[spoiler:he had a dream that was Janet's memory]]. He's trying to help them discreetly so that Jimmy Woo, the FBI agent supervising his house arrest, won't bust him or arrest the Pyms. At one point Luis is calling him because they need to fix plans for an account they're hoping to land for their security firm. Scott promises to come help as soon as he helps the Pyms.\\
'''You'd Expect''': He would agree to meet Luis at a discreet location far from the Pyms.\\
'''Instead''': He tells Luis where the Pyms are and where to come.\\
'''The Result''': [[spoiler:The FBI gets a tip after Sonny Burch interrogates Luis and the others with truth serum. They succeed in arresting the Pyms, and endangering Janet's return to the human world.]].

* ''Film/CaptainMarvel2019''
** Vers is a trainee soldier for the Kree. She wants to prove herself, but her commanding officer Yon-Rogg fears she is too emotional and impulsive. Eventually, the Supreme Intelligence gives her permission to fly with her squad. [[spoiler:It's revealed that Yon-Rogg actually kidnapped "Vers" aka Carol Danvers from Earth, wiped her memories and brainwashed her to become a super-weapon for the Kree. The Supreme Intelligence knows this]].\\
'''You'd Expect''': The Supreme Intelligence would [[spoiler:send Carol and her squad on a mission far from Earth or the Skrulls.]] She is a newbie to actual combat, after all. [[spoiler:If Carol were ever to learn what Yon-Rogg did, which she does, the Kree's new super-weapon could turn against them]].\\
'''Instead''': They send the squad to a Skrull refugee camp to extract a spy, on a planet relatively close to Earth.\\
'''The Result''': It's a trap. The Skrulls capture Carol by having one of their own shapeshift into the spy who knows the secret codes. They then examine her memories and realize it's full of holes. When Carol escapes, she makes herself and the Skrulls crash onto Earth.
** Meanwhile, on Earth, Nick Fury from S.H.I.E.L.D. gets a call about a strange woman in a laser-tag suit crashing through the roof of a Blockbuster and raiding the Radio Shack next door for parts. He finds Carol using a payphone to call her Kree colleagues, and apart from a half-hearted HeWentThatWay ploy, she's honest that she's from another planet and trying to stop an alien invasion.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Nick would tread carefully, even with ArbitrarySkepticism. She ''did'' crash through a building but doesn't look visibly injured, apart from possible head-trauma.\\
'''Instead''': He tries to arrest her for property damage and burglary.\\
'''The Result''': Carol makes her getaway after saving him from a Skrull assassin that happened to be on the building nearby. Nick and Coulson are astounded at how far she gets, and Nick makes ''much'' more headway by simply talking to Carol in a bar.
** The Skrulls aren't much better; it's revealed that Talos [[spoiler:is trying to find his wife and daughter, who were Skrull refugees. And soon his team learns that the Kree kidnapped Carol, the last person to work with Mar-Vell AKA "Wendy Lawson", a Kree scientist trying to protect the Skrulls]].\\
'''You'd Expect''': That when they find Carol, they seek out a [[spoiler:truce from the start and NeverHurtAnInnocent for naive life forms. Carol suffers a terrible HeelRealization on finding out the Skrull aren't colonizers but rather genocide victims, on seeing Talos's family]].\\
'''Instead''': They spend most of their initial time on Earth firing at Carol, trying to kill Nick after he's served his purpose, and impersonating various S.H.I.E.L.D. agents.\\
'''Predictably''': [[spoiler:Carol]] at first doesn't want to help. When they finally get a chance to [[spoiler:talk with Carol, they have to show her the black box that Talos recovered to get her to listen. Talos lampshades the realization that he hasn't really helped his case]].

* ''Film/AvengersEndgame'':
** Five years after the events of Infinity War and the destruction of the Infinity Stones, Scott Lang returns from the Quantum Realm and suggests to the remaining heroes that they use the Quantum Realm to travel back in time to retrieve the Infinity Stones prior to Thanos destroying them so that they can [[spoiler: undo the Snap and bring all the Mad Titan's victims back to life]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The heroes to go to some point in time between when Thanos did the Snap and the day he destroyed the Infinity Stones. They can take him down there and retrieving all the stones in one fell swoop.\\
'''Instead:''' They never think of this as an option and go for a very convoluted plan to go to different points in the timeline (namely, [[Film/TheAvengers2012 2012]], [[Film/ThorTheDarkWorld 2013]] and [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy 2014]]) to retrieve the stones at different points in time, which raises more opportunities for things to go wrong.
** To facilitate their plan of traveling to the past to get the stones, remake them and undo Thanos's fingersnap, Captain America splits the teams into three groups: one will go to New York in 2012, when the Avengers were battling Loki; another will go to Morag and Vormir, and a third will head to Asgard in 2013. Tony, Steve, and Scott go to 2012.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Tony to remember that Hulk threw a temper tantrum on using the stairs in the past.\\
'''Instead:''' He forgets this important thing.\\
'''Result:''' Past-Hulk's tantrum knocks away Ant-Man and Future Tony just as they get the Cube; Loki grabs it and manages to vanish so he can [[Series/Loki2021 go off and star in his own show]]. This necessitates Future Cap and Tony have to go back to 1970 to get the Cube as well as more Pym particles.
** After traveling back to [[spoiler:Morag in 2014, Nebula's memories get entangled with those of her 2014 counterpart, thus allowing that year's version of Thanos to discover that he'll succeed in his plan to wipe out half the population of the universe, but be killed by Thor afterwards]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Nebula Prime to [[spoiler:immediately return to 2023, thus ensuring that Thanos won't be able to get his hands on her, and just hope that Black Widow and Hawkeye have enough of a head-start in their mission to claim the Soul Stone before Thanos can potentially catch up to them -- assuming he actually knows that's where they're going]].\\
'''Instead:''' She stays behind and tries to warn Black Widow and Hawkeye of impending danger.\\
'''The Result:''' [[spoiler:Thanos catches up to and captures Nebula Prime, then sends his timeline's version of Nebula ahead to 2023 in her place. Alternate Nebula in turn opens up a time portal that allows Thanos to take ''Sanctuary II'' to 2023, where, as soon as the Avengers have undone his 2018 version's work, he launches a missile barrage that levels the Avengers base of operations]].
** While being held captive, Nebula begs past-Gamora to not listen to Thanos. She all but says that their father killed her version of Gamora, and she doesn't want that to happen again. Gamora, who defected in canon before Nebula did, is perturbed that this version of her sister is more concerned about her than the current one, who wants Gamora dead, is.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Gamora would act sooner since she doesn't believe in her father's mission.\\
'''Instead''': She only frees Nebula ''after'' Thanos has sprung forward into the future.\\
'''The Result''': By the time they escape, Nebula is forced to shoot her past-self when the latter threatens Gamora, and they get separated in the fracas of the battle. Plus Gamora sabotaging the time travel forward would have helped the heroes a lot more.
* ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome''
** It's revealed Tony created a [[spoiler:failsafe drone system to protect the world]]. This was already shortsighted given what happened with Ultron, but then he decides to choose someone to control it.\\
'''You'd Expect''': He would have given control to Pepper or Happy Hogan. Pepper is his ''wife'' and CEO of Stark Industries. She can handle the responsibility. Happy in contrast is the head of security at Stark Industries and would know how to finagle dangerous weaponry.\\
'''Instead''': As Happy reveals, Tony gave control of E.D.I.T.H. to [[spoiler:Peter Parker. Who is a teen and literally just came back to life in the final battle against Thanos]].\\
'''Predictably''': [[spoiler:Peter]] is flattered by the gesture but worried that he can't handle the responsibility and seems to prove it when [[spoiler:he accidentally orders an airstrike on his classmates. He gives the glasses to Quentin Beck, whom he assumes will treat them well after they team up against the Elemental. Only Quentin Beck is the BigBad and uses the drones to try and kill Peter]].
** [[spoiler:Quentin Beck]] is a disgruntled former Stark employee who [[spoiler:lost his job either due to workplace issues, or Tony "stealing" his invention that was featured in ''Civil War'']]. It's unclear who is telling the truth. Regardless, he managed to retain his team and has a second chance [[spoiler:after the Snap and when it's undone, and Tony's death]].\\
'''You'd Expect''': He would do what Toomes did in 2017, and sell modified versions of the tech under the radar to willing customers. It's enough to MindRape people, deceive them, and reveal their worst memories. All valuable in the criminal world. Toomes managed to do this for five years without getting caught, and Quentin has his whole life ahead of him.\\
'''Instead''': He creates a [[spoiler:FakeUltimateHero ploy where he lies about being Mysterio, a sorcerer from another dimension that is fighting beings called the Elementals. The plan is to establish himself as Iron Man and Thor's replacement and use special effects to "rescue" people.]]\\
'''Predictably''': The only reason [[spoiler:the ruse]] goes on for so long is that he's dealing with a child co-hero and [[spoiler:Talos, who is impersonating Nick Fury, with Nick's permission]]. Another child, Michelle Jones, finds evidence that Quentin is a fraud and shows Peter Parker, her classmate whom she knows is Spider-Man. This ends up leading to Quentin's downfall, especially when a MadeOfIron Peter returns from Quentin's murder attempt to save Michelle and his other friends. And by then Talos starts to catch on too]].
** Talos (as Fury) uses his connections to transfer Peter's class trip to Prague, so that Peter's identity won't be compromised. They stage a rest stop where Peter can get a replacement suit in a bathroom.\\
'''You'd Expect''': They would lock the bathroom, which is actually BiggerOnTheInside and looks more like a drug den.\\
'''Instead''': The female agent leaves the door unlocked and orders Peter to take off his clothes. That way he can try on the suit.\\
'''The Result''': Brad Davis walks in, and stops in surprise. He mistakes the agent for a prostitute and takes a photo of Peter with his pants off, hoping to show it to MJ. Peter deletes it in time, but that is the worst level of security ever.
** After the disastrous test-drive Peter does on the bus with EDITH, Talos and Soren inform him that the next elemental will attack during the City of Lights Festival. Peter is worried because his friends will want to go out and be in the line of fire.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Talos would reassure Peter he'll take care of that part. Have a handful of agents and a distraction to ensure the kids don't go outside.\\
'''Instead''': Talos takes no such precautions and leaves it in Peter's hands to fix. He says it's Peter's responsibility since Peter nearly killed everyone on the bus.\\
'''The Result''': Peter does his best, but [[spoiler:no one is interested in the Opera distraction, not even MJ. Ned, the OnlySaneMan who knows about Peter's mission, reluctantly sneaks out with Betty Brant and they get trapped on a Ferris Wheel while the fight happens]]. It says a lot that [[spoiler:Happy Hogan is the most competent adult to get Peter's friends out of the line of fire in London, ''much later'']].
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[[folder:TV Shows - Pre-Disney+]]
* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'':
** In "[[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS1E15YesMen Yes Men]]", the team have to capture an Asgardian criminal named Lorelei. Lady Sif warns them that Lorelei can use magic to bend any man to her will - for most men, the sound of her voice is enough - but her powers have no effect on women.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Agent Coulson would arrange for an all-female assault team before moving on Lorelei. Note that he does do this later in the episode, after what we're about to describe here.\\
'''Alternatively''': If that isn't feasible given the time frame, he should at least have the male agents stay back and deal with Lorelei's minions from behind cover, while the women (May and Sif at a minimum) go to catch Lorelei herself.\\
'''Or At The Very Least''': Issue a "shoot on sight" order since his team both has stun guns and real guns, and Asgardians are far tougher than a human.\\
'''Instead:''' For some bizarre reason, Ward goes around the back without any backup, orders the ''superhuman'' seductress to stand down instead of just shooting her outright, and gets himself seduced by her and placed under her control. Coulson at least learned his lesson the next time he tried it.
** In "[[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS1E19TheOnlyLightInTheDarkness The Only Light in the Darkness]]", Erik Koenig, trained S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, expert interrogator, and Nick Fury's hand-picked housesitter, is interrogating the members of the team to determine if any of them are [[TheMole enemy agents of HYDRA.]] One character starts giving vague answers that set off ''every alarm'' on Koenig's super-sensitive lie-detector, to the point where he ''draws a gun on the suspect'' and demands answers. Unfortunately, TheMole ([[spoiler:Grant Ward]]), uses ExactWords to give an evasive explanation that turns off the alarms. What's worse, the ExactWords in question are that he's there for Skye. That's not really a great innocent explanation either for why he should be there if he wasn't a mole.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Koenig to either keep the suspect under detention and get further clarification on the matter. Or, at a minimum, talk to Coulson or another already-established-as-trustworthy S.H.I.E.L.D. agent and have them watch the suspect for any signs of treasonous behavior.\\
'''Instead:''' After the alarms turn off, Koenig lets bygones be bygones and gives the suspect full access to everything, no (further) questions asked.\\
'''The Result:''' [[spoiler:TheMole, Agent Grant Ward, kills Koenig offscreen after May leaves the team, and while Coulson, Fitz, Simmons, and Triplett are occupied with protecting Coulson's cellist friend, Audrey Nathan, in another location.]]

%%* ''Series/AgentCarter'':

* ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'':
** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E1IntoTheRing Into the Ring]]", having narrowly escaped being both framed and murdered by Fisk's men, Karen Page has to get a thumbdrive of evidence against her employers at Union Allied.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Her to find someone else to go or get an escort, or at least let someone know what she's up to, so that if she goes "missing", people won't assume she fled.\\
'''Instead:''' She sneaks off in the middle of the night to her apartment ''alone''.\\
'''Result:''' Rance is waiting for her in her apartment and attacks her, and Karen only survives because Matt heard her slipping out and followed her.
** Karen does this a lot. Another instance is in "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E7Stick Stick]]" when she is going off alone to investigate Elena Cardenas's tenement case.\\
'''You'd think:''' Karen would bring someone else with her, or at least be prepared for trouble, given she's investigating men menacing people on the very block she's investigating.\\
'''Instead:''' She goes on her own.\\
'''As a result:''' She is jumped by the same goons she was asking about. This time, she's saved by Foggy. Now, in fairness, Karen did have a pepper spray can when she went there, but she should've had it more easily accessible or assumed that the men in question could've jumped her.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E3RabbitInASnowstorm Rabbit in a Snowstorm]]": James Wesley visits Nelson & Murdock to hire the firm to defend John Healy, an assassin who was recently arrested for killing a rival mobster on orders from his boss, Wilson Fisk. When he's let into the office, he recognizes Karen from his prior attempts to have her killed. Throughout his conversation with the lawyers, Matt is suspicious of Wesley given his refusal to say his name and the amount of background he's done on Matt and Foggy.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Wesley to feign not knowing Karen. She's never met him before, and he also knows thanks to his conversation with Fisk at the end of "Into the Ring" that the plan is to bribe her into keeping quiet about the Union Allied corruption.\\
'''Instead:''' He lets slip that he knows who Karen is.\\
'''Result:''' Matt becomes even more suspicious of Wesley and follows him out of the office, losing the trail when he gets into a car with Fisk and is driven away. Karen, meanwhile, realizes Wesley is involved with the people who tried to have her killed, and her meeting with the Union Allied attorney goes badly as she realizes they're attempting to buy her silence. She starts investigating Union Allied, eventually uncovers their ties to Fisk's other criminal operations, and kicks off a chain of events that ends in Wesley's death at Karen's hands.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E4InTheBlood In the Blood]]": In light of Matt Murdock's attacks on their gang, in particular Matt beating up a bunch of their men who were trying to torture his name out of Claire Temple, Anatoly Ranskahov decides to accept Wilson Fisk's offer of support.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anatoly or Vladimir would call James Wesley, and leave it to Wesley to set up a meeting so that the Russian gangsters can meet Fisk in person and solidify a partnership where Fisk can supply them with funding and resources for their campaign against Matt, keeping his own hands clean in the process.\\
'''Instead:''' Anatoly decides to break the news to Fisk in person, rudely barging into Fisk's dinner with Vanessa to tell him that he accepts Fisk's offer.\\
'''Result:''' Fisk, enraged by Anatoly's intrusion into his private life, has Anatoly driven to a vacant lot, where he personally beats Anatoly unconscious, then decapitates him with a car door. He then proceeds to have the Russians' hideouts bombed, and corrupt cops sent in to finish off the survivors, Vladimir included, to prevent further retaliation for Anatoly's death.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E5WorldOnFire World on Fire]]": One of Vladimir's men, Piotr, is arrested after Matt jumps him and some of his goons while making a drug drop at one of their stashhouses. He gets interrogated by Detectives Christan Blake and Carl Hoffman, who happen to be dirty cops on Fisk's payroll.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Piotr would keep his mouth shut. If it's knowledge that Fisk has cops on the take, it's best to say nothing because you don't know who to trust.\\
'''Instead:''' He mentions Fisk's name and promises to give up everything he knows on Fisk for leniency.\\
'''Result:''' Blake and Hoffman kill him right there and then.
** One could say Detectives Blake and Hoffman had a moment of this too. The fact that Piotr has said Fisk's name makes him a liability that needs to die.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Much like back in "Into the Ring," when Matt and Foggy browbeat them into letting Karen go free following Farnum's failed attempt on her life, Hoffman or Blake would step outside the interrogation room, call Wesley and ask for instructions. It'd be best to not raise any suspicions that they're dirty, so the ideal fate for Piotr would be something like Rance (a jailhouse hanging) or a jailhouse shanking.\\
'''Instead:''' Blake punches Hoffman in the face, then shoots Piotr in the head, while they make it seem like Piotr jumped Hoffman and tried to grab his gun.\\
'''Result:''' While Fisk's contacts in Internal Affairs make the matter go away, Matt happens to be at the precinct and overhears the murder. He jumps Blake that night, breaks his arm, and gets him to give up information on Fisk's plot to bomb the Russians' hideouts, which renders Blake as a liability that Fisk has to eliminate later.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E6Condemned Condemned]]": When a non-crooked cop, Officer Sullivan, finds Matt with Vladimir in an abandoned building, Matt overpowers him, and tells Officer Sullivan to tell dispatch it was a false alarm.\\
'''You'd think:''' Matt would let Officer Sullivan know the situation, as the cops in his precinct are overwhelmingly corrupt. Word travels fast in the police department, so it's hard to imagine Sullivan doesn't already know about the Russian goon that Detectives Blake and Hoffman murdered in custody earlier that day at the precinct for saying Fisk's name, and Matt is trying to convince him to waive any hope of backup coming for him, a dangerous proposition given he's alone with the "Devil of Hell's Kitchen."\\
'''Additionally''': If he's not going to agree, Matt's LivingLieDetector abilities would let him know that Sullivan likely wouldn't cooperate.\\
'''Instead:''' Matt tells him to tell dispatch without giving him any context, and only ominously to let the cop go "eventually."\\
'''As a result:''' Matt lets Sullivan speak into his radio... and he immediately shouts his location before Matt can knock him out. Not only do Blake and Hoffman take command of the scene, but the [[SWATTeam ESU team]] that eventually enters the building to "rescue" Sullivan are in Fisk's pocket, and [[CopKiller kill him]] [[KillerCop by cutting his throat.]]
** "Shadows in the Glass": Detective Blake has just come out of a coma after the sniper attack on him in "Condemned" failed to kill him. Fisk and Wesley know that Blake, bitter over getting shot, is likely to give up information on them. They also know that none of the cops guarding Blake's room are on their payroll. The plan they come up with is for someone to sneak a syringe filled with poison into Blake's IV line, using that to kill him.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Fisk would have Wesley pay Blake's nurse to kill him or hire a hitman to impersonate a nurse to do the job.\\
'''Instead:''' Fisk personally approaches Blake's distraught best friend and partner, Carl Hoffman, and intimidates him into doing the job.\\
'''Result:''' Hoffman almost doesn't go through with it when it's time to inject the poison, and it's only by chance that Matt arrives too late to save Blake (after being tipped off by Karen that Blake is out of his coma). And after the murder, Hoffman immediately goes into hiding and is scooped up by Leland Owlsley as a bargaining chip. Eventually, he goes to the police and gives up Fisk in a plea deal negotiated by Nelson & Murdock. His testimony ends up guaranteeing Fisk's conviction on five RICO counts as he can testify to Fisk ordering him to commit a murder, and link Fisk to plenty of other murders.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E8ShadowsInTheGlass Shadows in the Glass]]": When Fisk was twelve years old, his father Bill ran for city council. He had to borrow money in order to fund his campaign.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Bill would borrow money through proper legal channels.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes to a LoanShark, Don Rigoletto, to get a loan.\\
'''Result:''' Bill digs his own grave a couple ways at once. Aside from the possible scandal that would have arisen if his borrowing from the mafia got exposed, there was no guarantee he would win, especially given the community's very low opinion of him. He inevitably loses, and it's only thanks to Wilson beating him to death with a hammer for beating his mother that Bill is spared a potentially more gruesome retribution from the mafia.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E9SpeakOfTheDevil Speak of the Devil]]": Fisk has taken over Armand Tully's properties. Elena Cardenas, a resident in one of Tully's properties who has hired Nelson & Murdock because she refuses to leave, approaches Matt and Foggy to say that Fisk has doubled Tully’s buyout offer.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' As Matt and Foggy are in no position to prevent Fisk from carrying out his plans for the building, and Matt knows just what kinds of criminal activities Fisk has committed or had others commit for him, they would tell Elena to accept the offer.\\
'''Instead:''' Foggy changes his mind and says Elena should not accept the offer.\\
'''Result:''' Fisk hires a junkie to kill Elena, both to get rid of an obstacle to his plans for the property, and also to lure Matt into an ambush by Nobu. At the same time, though, there's every reason to believe Fisk would've just killed someone else (like one of Elena's neighbors) had Elena accepted the offer to get the same result, or done something like burn down her building.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E11ThePathOfTheRighteous The Path of the Righteous]]": James Wesley finds out that Karen Page and Ben Urich have spoken to Fisk's mother Marlene Vistain, and know about his darkest secrets. He decides to kidnap Karen from her apartment, take her to a warehouse, and threaten her into ceasing her opposition of him and Fisk by threatening to have her loved ones killed.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Wesley would restrain Karen in any way. He has a gun, so if she runs, he can easily shoot her.\\
'''You'd also expect:''' That Wesley would tell Francis, Fisk's head of security who supplied him with the gun, of where he is going, who he's going to talk to, and what he's doing, and tell Francis to also pass word of this to Fisk.\\
'''Instead:''' Wesley doesn't tell Francis where he's going. And while interrogating Karen, he not only leaves her unrestrained (expecting the drugs he knocked her out with to do the job), but leaves the gun on the table where she can easily reach for it. '''And''' he also tells Karen that Fisk is unaware of what he's up to, meaning [[HaveYouToldAnyoneElse she'll be off the hook if he dies]].\\
'''As a result:''' When Wesley's phone rings as Fisk tries to call him to find out where the hell he's gone, Karen grabs the gun and shoots him to death. He dies taking valuable intelligence on who knows Fisk's deepest secrets to his grave, a matter further compounded when Fisk kills Ben a day later after getting a tipoff from a mole at the ''Bulletin'' (and Ben turns out to be savvy enough [[HaveYouToldAnyoneElse to lie when Fisk asks him if he was alone when he talked to Marlene]]), and Marlene dies shortly after Fisk is convicted and sent to prison. Ultimately, Fisk doesn't know Karen knows everything about his checkered past until she visits him late in season 3. \\
'''To Add to the Stupidity:''' As Wesley tries to talk Karen down, [[TooDumbToLive he even asks her if she thinks he's dumb enough to make such a mistake.]] Karen, [[Recap/Daredevil2015S3E10Karen who once shot her drug-dealing boyfriend to protect her brother]], calls his bluff.
--->'''James Wesley:''' Come on. [[TooDumbToLive Do you really think I would put a loaded gun on the table where you could reach it?]]\\
'''Karen Page:''' I don't know. ''[pulls back the hammer]'' [[PreMortemOneLiner Do you really think this is the first time I've shot someone?]]
** The season 1 finale, "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E13Daredevil Daredevil]]": Fisk finds out that Leland Owlsley was behind the poisoning of Vanessa at his fundraiser, Owlsley has been skimming from him, and on top of that, Owlsley has squirreled away Carl Hoffman, who can implicate Fisk in several murders. Owlsley also reveals that he checks in with Hoffman regularly, such so that if he dies, [[DeadMansSwitch Hoffman will go to the FBI with everything he knows about Fisk]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Fisk to pretend to accept Owlsley's offer to part with half his money. While doing so, he can have his men shadow Owlsley. Then, once they find out where Hoffman is stashed, they can kill Hoffman and Owlsley in one fell swoop.\\
'''Instead:''' Fisk, enraged at Owlsley for poisoning Vanessa, immediately throws him down an elevator shaft.\\
'''Result:''' While Fisk does immediately also give orders for Hoffman to be hunted down for execution, he's forced to move much quicker before the DeadMansSwitch kicks in, due to not knowing where Hoffman is stashed. Fisk is also forced to enlist his dirty cops to help out, and Matt is tipped off when he overhears them talking about the search while he and Foggy are at the precinct talking with Brett Mahoney. Which means Nelson & Murdock find out where Hoffman is hiding and Matt is able to rescue him just as one of Fisk's hit squads tracks him down and is about to finish him off.
** The squad of dirty cops that are sent to kill Hoffman get a moment of this too. Officer Corbin and his men find the building where Hoffman is hiding.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Corbin to immediately shoot Hoffman in the head, then worry about taking out Hoffman's bodyguards.\\
'''Instead:''' Corbin and his men kill the bodyguards first, then Corbin walks up to Hoffman and puts his gun to Hoffman's head, so Hoffman can realize how hopeless his situation is.\\
'''Result:''' This extra few seconds is all it takes for Matt to show up, overpower the dirty cops, and rescue Hoffman, who subsequently goes to the 15th precinct and sells out Fisk.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S2E2DogsToAGunfight Dogs To A Gunfight]]": Frank Castle walks into a pawnshop to buy a police scanner. At his request, the pawnbroker leaves himself completely vulnerable, selling Frank the shells from his shotgun, and disconnecting the video camera (and giving the tape to Frank). Considering the incredibly illegal sale he's just conducted (of stolen police equipment), this is already pretty dumb.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That the owner would now just let Frank go.\\
'''Instead:''' The owner tries to upsell Frank, offering [=DVDs=] of increasingly extreme porn, culminating in child pornography. \\
'''End Result:''' Which is dumb in two ways: 1) Frank has demonstrated literally nothing to indicate that he's interested in buying anything else from the man, certainly not extreme BDSM porn, and ''definitely'' not child pornography. All he's demonstrated is that he's a professional criminal. 2) [[EvenEvilHasStandards Many criminals despise child molesters and child pornography in general.]] So if the buyer was the average criminal, this probably wouldn't end well for the seller. But this is The Punisher. The seller is so dense that even as Frank turns around and flips the sign in the door to "CLOSED" to prevent any witnesses from walking in, he still thinks he's making a sale, not about to get beaten to death with a baseball bat.
** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S2E4PennyAndDime Penny and Dime]]", Frank Castle is tortured by Finn Cooley and his Kitchen Irish goons. He gives up the location of a stolen briefcase of money to them. A couple of guys are sent to retrieve it.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That when they open it, they consider the possibility that it might be booby-trapped.\\
'''Instead:''' They don't.\\
'''Result:''' And indeed, Frank had stuffed a bomb under the money, which explodes once someone tries to grab some cash out of the briefcase.\\
'''At the Same Time:''' Castle had pointed out that Finn was little too interested in getting his money back. After all, he wasn't concerned about Frank decimating a portion of his crew when they captured him at the carousel.
** Elektra Natchios has been sent by Stick to recruit Matt for the Chaste's crusade against the Hand. She already did this once, back when Matt was in law school, but it failed because he refused to kill Roscoe Sweeney, the man who had Matt's father killed.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Elektra would go to Nelson & Murdock acting like a prospective client seeking legal representation, and hire Matt on retainer. Matt might not take her showing up all well, but she is wealthy, and Nelson & Murdock are in a bit of a financial slump. At the very least, this would be more respectful than what Elektra ultimately does...\\
'''Instead:''' ...which is to break into Matt's apartment, and surprise him when he's coming back in right after having just kissed Karen in the rain.\\
'''Result:''' Matt isn't all that inclined to offer to help Elektra out, pointing out, "Well, sweetheart, you don't break into my house and then talk to me about trust." She is thus forced to use further manipulation tactics to sway Matt over, like making a deposit into Nelson & Murdock's bank account, stealing his Daredevil armor and manipulating him into coming over to her penthouse so he'll have to wear it while helping her fight off some ninjas, and sending a chauffered car to pick him up while he's at the hospital with Karen and Foggy to talk to Frank Castle.
** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S2E8GuiltyAsSin Guilty as Sin]]", Karen visits Matt's apartment. She manages to make it to Matt's room, where he's talking to Elektra, who is laid up in bed and recuperating from a poisoned stab wound she sustained during a recent fight with the Hand.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That in the time between Karen showing up at the door, Stick letting her in, and presumably bringing her to the door, Matt would realize that Karen is here, know that seeing Elektra in his bed is a bad idea, and try to shoo her away or come up with some sort of lie.\\
'''Instead:''' He doesn't.\\
'''Result:''' Stick lets Karen in, and Karen sees Elektra in Matt's bed, recovering from the injuries she took in their recent fight with the Hand. Now it's Karen's turn to have such a moment.\\
'''You'd Now Expect:''' That because Karen knows Matt is a reasonable, sweet, and overall decent man, she would notice that Elektra was clearly not well, and assume that Matt and Stick are taking care of a friend of his (which could explain his flakiness throughout the trial). The fact that Matt was at her bedside, and not say, lying in it with her seems like a pretty big tip. And again, Stick was right outside the door and he let her in, so Matt wasn't even alone. And also perhaps, on Matt's end, that he would explain what was going on, even if this meant having to admit he was Daredevil.\\
'''Instead:''' Instead of even considering he and Stick were taking care of a friend, or even asking "What the hell is going on here?" and demanding answers, Karen instantly assumes he's a sleaze.\\
'''Result:''' Between that and Frank's trial falling apart the very next day, coupled with Matt being dragged into Stick and Elektra's war with the Hand, Matt doesn't get a chance to come clean with Karen until the end of the season.
** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S3E4Blindsided Blindsided]]", Matt goes to the prison looking for information on Fisk's stay there.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' As Matt knows from his previous visit to Fisk in prison in "The Man in the Box" that Fisk was in control of the guards and inmates, he would assume Fisk still has people at the prison working for him who have been instructed to inform Fisk if Matt visits.\\
'''Instead:''' Matt seems to think that because Fisk is out of prison, he has no reason to continue paying the guards and inmates there.\\
'''Predictably:''' Fisk ''is'' still paying the guards and inmates there. He remotely orders the guards and inmates to start a riot in an attempt to kill Matt.
** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S3E5ThePerfectGame The Perfect Game]]", Fisk decides to leverage the FBI for the return of his personal possessions by alleging that Matt Murdock is a former associate of his.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Nadeem would not take Fisk's allegations at face value, even if the information Fisk has been giving him up to this point has been reliable. This is because Matt is different from the previous people Fisk has given up. So far, Fisk has solely been handing the FBI criminals that (as far as Nadeem is aware) he has no obvious motivation to be going after.[[note]]Fisk is using the FBI to take down rival criminals of his and taking their various corrupt officials and connections for himself, making him a one-stop shop for bribery and protection from prosecution for any other crime bosses who are left[[/note]] Matt is not a known criminal, and even without the whole fact that he's Daredevil, he is someone Fisk has a blatantly obvious motive for targeting: Nelson & Murdock opposed Fisk at every turn in season 1, between exonerating someone that he tried to frame for murder for stumbling on criminal activity connected to him (Karen), the whole tenement case with Mrs. Cardenas, and the firm making the plea deal for Carl Hoffman. In short, Nadeem should consider the possibility that Matt is someone that Fisk has a personal vendetta against, and question Fisk further for clarification.\\
'''Instead:''' He believes every word of Fisk's bullshit, for the sake of getting a promotion.\\
'''Result:''' Nadeem ends up falling further and further into Fisk's hooks while Karen, Foggy, and Matt have to deal (separately) with the repercussions of his carelessness. Nadeem does eventually realize Matt is innocent, but by then he's in way too deep.
** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S3E8UpstairsDownstairs Upstairs / Downstairs]]", Karen decides to visit Fisk with the intention of provoking him into attacking her in front of the FBI so he'll violate his house arrest and go back to prison. At first, she tries to do this by disclosing her visit to his mother, but when that fails, she instead decides to admit to killing James Wesley.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Karen would arrange for someone to come with her who can ensure an intervention before Fisk can hurt her too much. And that she'd call Foggy to tell him why she wasn't going to be at the forum where he planned to call out Tower for his inaction against Fisk.\\
'''In Addition:''' Even though Karen doesn't know at this point that the imposter Daredevil is an FBI agent, she knows Fisk has corrupted law enforcement officials (between Farnum's attempt on her in jail during the Union Allied case as well as Nelson & Murdock's representation of Carl Hoffman, a corrupt cop who named other cops that Fisk had on his payroll), and thus should assume that the agents in the penthouse are loyal to Fisk and not to the FBI.\\
'''Instead:''' Neither of those things happen.\\
'''Result:''' Fisk comes narrowly close to choking Karen to death, only not doing so because Foggy shows up just in time. Karen walks out alive, but Fisk retaliates by sending Dex after her, which culminates in Matt and several church patrons being injured, and the deaths of Father Lantom and two bystanders.\\
'''Furthermore''': Since the agents in the penthouse are indeed working for Fisk (not just Dex), it's likely that had Foggy not intervened, Fisk would've killed her and they would've deleted the footage.
** Also from "Upstairs / Downstairs", Fisk decides to have Dex's girlfriend Julie Barnes killed so that Dex can't rely on her as a [[MoralityChain "north star"]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Fisk, who killed multiple people to hush up Union Allied it was exposed, would have her body immediately disposed of so that no one can find it or be able to link him to her death.\\
'''Instead:''' Fisk keeps her body (and the bodies of her assassins) in a walk-in freezer.\\
'''Result:''' This allows Dex to quickly find the body and be given reason to turn against Fisk after Matt tortures this information out of Felix Manning and relays it to him.\\
'''Furthermore:''' The reason Fisk had Julie killed is because he thinks that by taking away Dex's moral compass, Dex will be entirely devoted to him and no one will be competing with him. Which makes the murder pointless because Dex ''clearly already is'' loyal to Fisk, so really all Fisk accomplished was create a way for Matt to turn Dex against him later on.
** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S3E9Revelations Revelations]]", Nadeem decides to visit Hattley's house with Agent Winn to inform her of his suspicions, which are that Fisk manipulated the FBI into letting him out of prison, and he is using Dex as his personal hitman.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' For Nadeem to realize that where there's one corrupt FBI agent, there's likely a bunch of others as well. Fisk had a large number of NYPD cops in his pocket in season 1 besides Christian Blake and Carl Hoffman. Therefore, Nadeem should trust none of his superiors in the FBI (as they're suspect number one as far as FBI agents Fisk is likely to sway to his side are concerned) and take his information to the NYPD.\\
'''Particularly:''' Take his information to Brett Mahoney. Brett is known in the NYPD for being the cop who arrested Fisk, has a direct line to the real Daredevil during the time prior to Midland Circle, and since the NYPD are likely looking for Dex as well, they can open an investigation into his activities and place him under surveillance without the FBI realizing what's going on.\\
'''Instead:''' Nadeem decides Dex is a single rogue agent, and takes his information straight to his boss, SAC Tammy Hattley.\\
'''Result:''' Hattley turns out to be working for Fisk as well. She abruptly kills Winn, and then she and Felix Manning blackmail Ray into working for Fisk as well.
** A season 3-long one: Fisk carefully selects his FBI detail in advance because he's researched them thoroughly and plans to bribe, threaten and blackmail them all later and turn them into being his personal bodyguards.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Fisk would do what he did with the NYPD cops in his pocket in season 1, and use manipulation (with Nadeem and Dex) and bribery (for everyone else). He can then use blackmail to keep them from leaving once they're dirty.\\
'''Instead:''' He resorts to intimidation and blackmail as his main means of controlling them.\\
'''End Result:''' Fisk essentially spends his days surrounded by about a dozen or so people who all would be happy if he met a tragic end of some sort. When Matt breaks into his penthouse to kill him, Mrs. Shelby, the woman running his surveillance network, is thrilled at the prospect purely because she hates working for Fisk just that much. Eventually all of these Feds either provide testimony against him (Nadeem through his posthumous video confession, and everyone else after Karen gets the ''Bulletin'' to publish it) or try to outright murder him (Dex).

* ''Series/JessicaJones2015''
** "[[Recap/JessicaJones2015S1E4AKA99Friends AKA 99 Friends]]": Hope has been commanded by Kilgrave into shooting her parents. Jessica wants to prove that she was under Kilgrave's control at the time of the shootings. So she and Jeri Hogarth decide to find people who've been mind-controlled by Kilgrave in order to have them testify in Hope's trial.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That they subpoena the staff from the restaurant that Kilgrave took Hope to. AKA people who have very little reason to lie and can positively say "that woman right there walked in with a creepy British guy who made us do things we didn't want to do."\\
'''Instead:''' They just go out and get a bunch of random people who at best can only testify that someone exists who can force you to do stuff (no proof that Hope was under his influence) and at worse are all mentally unstable or have good reasons for wanting to excuse their actions by lying about someone else making them do it.
** So a bunch of Kilgrave's victims are located and brought in.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Jessica and Hogarth would work to isolate each victim, so that they could be interviewed separately and without anyone or anything around to influence them.\\
'''Instead:''' They put the victim all together in a support group, thereby weakening all their stories because they've had time to be influenced by each other.
** "[[Recap/JessicaJones2015S1E10AKA1000Cuts AKA 1000 Cuts]]": Kilgrave attempts to make a deal with Hogarth: busting him out of his TailorMadePrison in exchange for doing Hogarth a favor.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Hogarth to take Jessica's warning seriously since Kilgrave is very dangerous, and there's no guarantee that Kilgrave will keep his promise after he's free. Plus, Hogarth doesn't have anything to keep Kilgrave from backstabbing her.\\
'''Instead:''' The temptations of harnessing mind control is too irresistible for Hogarth. She vouches for the easy way to get her ex-wife Wendy to sign the divorce papers - double-cross Jessica, spring Kilgrave, and take him to Wendy.\\
'''Result:''' Kilgrave does use MindControl on Wendy.....to order her to kill Jeri through DeathByAThousandCuts. Jeri nearly bleeds to death, and her mistress Pam shows up in the nick of time to kill Wendy. Jeri regrets her choice since Pam is disgusted by her actions and gets thrown in jail.
** When Kilgrave was a child, he had a rare and terminal brain disease. So his parents, both scientists, subjected him to very painful experimental treatments.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Albert and Louise would explain to Kilgrave what they were doing and how important it was they do it. Sedate him if possible so he didn't go through extreme pain. At the very least, offer him comfort and consolation after each procedure.\\
'''Instead:''' They never explain what they are doing at any point.\\
'''Result:''' Kilgrave believes he was born to be their guinea pig and hates them for the pain they put him through. When he gains powers, he wastes no time in making his parents do what he wants. They abandon him at the age of 10, and he grows up to become a PsychopathicManchild with the power to control people.
** In Season 2, Jessica has finally decided to turn her mother in to the police. She has the contact of Detective Costa, who trusts her, and her mother is currently in her apartment.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Jessica contact Costa by texting or emailing him.\\
'''Instead:''' Jessica calls Costa and tells him out loud where her mother is, while knowing that Alisa is in the next room and probably listening. She even leans on the door, for God's sake!\\
'''Result:''' Alisa tries to run for it when Costa shows up, and Jessica has to spend several minutes tracking her down. It's only by pure luck that Alisa doesn't kill anyone else in the interim.
* ''Series/LukeCage2016''
** "[[Recap/LukeCage2016S1E2CodeOfTheStreets Code of the Streets]]": Cornell "Cottonmouth" Stokes' enforcer Tone, and Shades, have been instructed to track down Chico and recover the money he, Dante and Shameek stole from Cottonmouth and Domingo's guys during an attack on an arms deal. Shameek is captured and beaten to death by Cottonmouth. Cottonmouth tells Tone to go after Chico if he's slipping.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Since Tone was present for Shameek's murder, he'd know that Cottonmouth can be unhinged when he's angry. And subsequently, that Tone run a plan by Cottonmouth first before going out to look for Chico.\\
'''Instead:''' He does run a plan by Cottonmouth, sure. But since Cottonmouth seems non-committal, Tone decides to make an executive decision. Leading to....\\
'''Then:''' After Turk Barrett tips them off, Tone and Shades see Chico at Pop's Barber Shop. Shades wants to wait, and Tone wants to go in and kill him.\\
'''Now You'd Expect:''' That Tone listen to Shades, call Cottonmouth, and ask him what he wants to do.\\
'''Alternately:''' Put on a ski mask, walk in with a pistol, and just shoot Chico in the head.\\
'''Instead:''' Tone proceeds to take twin submachine guns, one in each hand, and sprays indiscriminately into the barbershop.\\
'''End Result:''' While one bullet hits Chico, it's not a fatal shot. Meanwhile, Pop - a former friend of Cottonmouth's who Cottonmouth still respects - is killed by a stray round to the neck.
** Following the shooting, Tone and Shades return to the rooftop of the nightclub to converse with Cottonmouth and Mariah.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Tone calmly explain what happened (he opened fire, Pop was accidentally hit and killed by a stray). Maybe even show remorse for killing Pop or provide some justification for shooting up the place. Or just let Shades do all the talking.\\
'''Instead:''' He brags about going all [[Film/DjangoUnchained Django Candieland]] shit for real, and callously dismisses Pop's death as "a casualty of war". [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he calls Cornell]] [[EmbarrassingNickname "Cottonmouth"]] TO HIS FACE, despite having lectured Shameek in the previous episode about how [[BerserkButton Cornell HATES being called that]].\\
'''End Result:''' By this point, it's not a matter of ''if'' things are going to end badly for Tone, but ''how'' badly they are going to end for him. Cottonmouth, furious that Pop is dead, [[DestinationDefenestration throws him off the roof to his death]].
** "[[Recap/LukeCage2016S1E6SuckasNeedBodyguards Suckas Need Bodyguards]]": Misty's partner Rafael Scarfe is secretly in Cottonmouth's pocket and feeding him inside information. When sneaking seized weapons and money out of evidence, he gets the idea to squeeze Cottonmouth for $100,000.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' It's been less than a year since Wilson Fisk was arrested, and it's public knowledge that he'd killed corrupt cops who became problems for him. Knowing this, Scarfe would consider that being crooked means his badge won't protect him from Cottonmouth killing him, and thus have some sort of insurance on hand.\\
'''For Instance:''' Mention that Internal Affairs is investigating him, or that he has a hidden ledger with details of the various crimes he's committed or covered up for Cottonmouth, one that will be released to the public if anything happens to him.\\
'''Instead:''' Scarfe goes to meet with Cottonmouth, and tries to shake him down.\\
'''Result:''' [[HotBlooded Cottonmouth]] responds by attacking him, manages to wrestle his gun away, and shoots him. Scarfe is still breathing.\\
'''Now You'd Expect:''' Cottonmouth would walk behind the car and finish off Scarfe by bashing his head in/strangling him/something, seeing as those bullets failed to kill him.\\
'''Instead:''' Cottonmouth gets back in his own car and drives off.\\
'''Result:''' Scarfe manages to make it back to Pop's Barber Shop and tell Luke everything he knows before he dies.
** "[[Recap/LukeCage2016S1E12SoliloquyOfChaos Soliloquy of Chaos]]": Zip has been ordered by Diamondback to assassinate Shades. After Zip and a few of his henchmen get Shades into a freight elevator, Zip carries out his attack....\\
'''You'd Expect:'''....by just shooting Shades in the head.\\
'''Instead:''' ...by garroting Shades from behind, while his henchmen just stand there doing nothing...\\
'''End Result:''' ...and Shades, a former street brawler, manages to fight back, grabs one henchman's gun, and uses it to kill both of Zip's men. He then leads Zip out onto the roof, and pistol-whips him into admitting to Diamondback's complicity. Shades, unimpressed, then shoots Zip in the head.
** Towards the end of season 1, Candace Miller decides to come clean with Misty Knight and admit to being paid off by Mariah Dillard to lie about Cottonmouth's murder and programs the number of a burner to contact Candace from.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Misty would password protect her phone, in case she loses it. And, in addition to that, use codenames for her informants when putting them in her contact list.\\
'''Instead:''' Misty doesn't do either of those things. So when her phone is stolen by Shades in the ruckus of the fight between Luke Cage and Diamondback, he has a direct line to Candace and can call her out of hiding to get killed.
** On the subject of Candace: during Mariah's interrogation in "[[Recap/LukeCage2016S1E13YouKnowMySteez You Know My Steez]]", her forensics friend Bailey interrupts, pulls Misty out, and informs her that Candace has been found dead.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Misty would pull Inspector Ridley out, quietly explain the situation to her, and then gone back in and used anything they could to trick Mariah into confessing on tape. Police can lie, they know and are trained in exactly how to lie to elicit a confession[[note]]example: tell Mariah that Shades had ''nearly'' killed Candace, not ''actually'' killed Candace, and that she was lucky to be alive. Mariah knew Shades was going to do something, so as long as she was led to believe Shades tried and failed she might have bought it.[[/note]].\\
'''Instead:''' Since Misty gets irrational when she loses control of situations, she just goes in and just announces their witness is dead. And gets rightfully chewed out by Inspector Ridley for her mistake.
** Diamondback opens fire on Misty Knight when she tries to take him in at Harlem's Paradise for killing a police officer. Luke carries Misty to safety even as Diamondback's men open fire on him.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That since there are lots of witnesses who clearly can see people shooting ''at'' Luke, not Luke shooting at others, Diamondback take Shades' suggestion and withdraw from the club before the police show up.\\
'''Instead:''' Diamondback, due to his absurd amount of hatred for Luke Cage, decides to improvise a HostageSituation.\\
'''End Result:''' Once the situation is over, the police know Luke isn't the hostage taker since there are lots of contradicting statements from the witnesses. Additionally, Shades and Mariah choose to cut ties with him due to Diamondback's recklessness.
** Domingo and his men decide to go to Diamondback's warehouse to kill him. After a brief exchange, Domingo and his men pull out their guns...\\
'''You'd Expect:''' ...and shoot Diamondback on the spot.\\
'''Instead:''' ...and Domingo monologues...\\
'''Result:''' ...long enough for Diamondback and his men to get the drop on them and open fire.
** Mariah Dillard is a councilwoman who happens to be cousin to Cottonmouth, a known organized crime figure.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Since a nosy reporter in the likes of Karen Page or Thembi Wallace might turn up evidence of her dirtiness, that Mariah would have some sort of PR plan if allegations that she's in bed with her cousin's criminal activities ever come up. Especially considering she regularly hangs out at Cottonmouth's nightclub. And she knows the stuff Cottonmouth does isn't exactly family friendly material. Even something like "That's my cousin. Not me. I do this pretty Harlem stuff."\\
'''Also:''' Wait until the heat from Luke's attack on Crispus Attucks has died down before doing the TV piece.\\
'''Instead:''' She doesn't.\\
'''Result:''' She effectively is ambushed by Thembi Wallace during the interview, and all Mariah can do is end the interview and kick Thembi and her camera crew out. There are calls then from the public and fellow city councilmen for her resignation, which are only silenced when [[spoiler:she kills Cottonmouth and pins his death on Luke]]. She is eventually forced to step down from the city council, though still has some prestige as the owner of Harlem's Paradise.
** In "Straighten It Out," Shades and Comanche visit Arturo Rey, one of the prospective clients looking to buy guns from Mariah. Arturo is backing out of the deal, ever since he got busted for trying to kill Luke with a Judas weapon, and threatens to go to the police with what he knows in hopes of reducing his prison sentence if Mariah doesn't use her legal connections to get him off. Shades takes this personally and gets in Arturo's face.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Arturo to get the hint that Shades doesn't like people bad-talking Mariah and back down.\\
'''Instead:''' He switches to Spanish and continues insulting Mariah to Shades's face.\\
'''Predictably:''' Shades shoots him in the face.
** In season 2, Darius "Comanche" Jones is released from prison, and takes a spot in Mariah's gang, and promptly becomes an informant for Misty's boss, Captain Thomas Ridenhour.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' He would work out creating alibis for himself for times when he needs to meet with Ridenhour to deliver information.\\
'''Instead:''' The best he does is claim he's off meeting his mother Janice.\\
'''Result:''' Shades becomes suspicious of Comanche, especially when Comanche isn't present for important events like Bushmaster visiting Mariah at Harlem's Paradise to threaten her, or being unable to be found when Bushmaster makes his declaration of war on Mariah (Comanche doesn't help himself along the way by asking Shades questions about Mariah that come off like he's fishing for information). Eventually, a moment of idiocy by Ridenhour leads to Comanche's snitch status being exposed, and Shades ultimately killing him for it.
** In "The Basement", Mariah is brought in for questioning after Bushmaster plants three severed heads in the entrance to her new housing project. Captain Ridenhour, her former high school sweetheart, questions her. Unbeknownst to Mariah, one of her men, Shades's former prison lover Comanche, is acting as an informant for Ridenhour. While trying to gain Mariah's cooperation, Ridenhour mentions the criminal deeds her late cousin committed.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ridenhour would only mention crimes that are on the official record as being committed by Cottonmouth or his men.\\
'''Instead:''' He mentions how Cornell threw Tone off a roof.\\
'''Result:''' Mariah realizes that there's a rat in her gang because Tone's death (which she was a witness to) was covered up by Cottonmouth. When she discloses this to her gang, Shades (who also witnessed the murder) realizes Comanche is the rat because he confided in him the details about Tone's death. He keeps a closer eye on Comanche all throughout the day, and eventually catches him meeting with Ridenhour. While Comanche kills Ridenhour and attempts to bluff his way out, Shades promptly kills him for snitching.
** Shades gets a moment of this in "On and On" when he catches Comanche meeting Ridenhour. After Comanche kills Ridenhour, Shades decides to stage a scene where [[MutualKill Comanche and Ridenhour killed each other]], and shoots Comanche with Ridenhour's gun.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Shades would let Comanche slowly bleed to death.\\
'''Instead:''' He can't bear seeing his friend/prison lover die slowly, so shoots him a second time at close range to grant him a MercyKill.\\
'''Result:''' Misty realizes there was a third party at the crime scene, pointing out Ridenhour wouldn't have had the arm strength to fire the second shot with his dying breath.
** In "The Main Ingredient," Mariah decides to smoke out Bushmaster by kidnapping his uncle Anansi, then taking him back to his restaurant Gwen's in Brooklyn. She and her gang walk into the place and promptly take everyone present hostage.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Mariah to have one of her men shoot Anansi in the head with their pistols. His death alone should be enough to draw Bushmaster out of hiding.\\
'''Instead:''' She has her men kill everyone present. Then she has Anansi doused in alcohol, and lights him on fire. Then, while he's burning to death, she shoots him with a revolver that's a Stokes family heirloom, one that Cottonmouth had used to kill Uncle Pete in the late 1980s, and which Shades used to kill Candace in the season 1 finale.\\
'''Result:''' With five innocent bystanders dead and one (Bushmaster's aunt Ingrid) wounded, the case becomes a media circus. The police turn up the heat on Mariah's gang, and ultimately establish her as the culprit when the ballistics on the bullet dug out of Anansi's body match it to the same gun used in the two aforementioned murders. Shades, for his part, is also appalled at Mariah's ruthlessness, and decides to turn informant, leading them to the gun in question.
** In the second season finale, Mariah finds herself in prison thanks to Shades turning on her, and is set upon by two other inmates who prepare to kill her, but are taken out first by Sunflower, who is the leader of the prison's black clique, and a childhood rival of Mariah. After making it clear that she wants Mariah's servitude in exchange for having just saved her life, Mariah asks for Sunflower's shiv so that she can carve her initials into the corpse of one of the women who just tried to kill her.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Sunflower to point out that this would be an ''extremely'' stupid thing for Mariah to do, as it would instantly get her fingered for a murder she didn't even commit, and end any remote chance of her escaping conviction for the multitude of murders she actually ''has'' been responsible for some way.\\
'''Instead:''' She happily hands over her shiv, and is rewarded with a slit throat for her trouble.

* ''Series/IronFist2017''
** "[[Recap/IronFist2017S1E1SnowGivesWay Snow Gives Way]]": Danny Rand has made his way back to New York City after 15 years in K'un L'un. He decides to go seek out Rand Enterprises to reintroduce himself to the Meachums.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Danny would stop at a local shelter to get himself cleaned up and presentable with some donated clothing beforehand.\\
'''Instead:''' He doesn't.\\
'''Result:''' Ward and Joy rebuff him because even though he's saying things they ought to remember (like Ward's bullying), he comes off as an insane homeless acrobat, called "Cirque de Psychopath", and they're not willing to believe him.
** The Meachums have a bit of this too in reference to the above:\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Joy or Ward would [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay ask a few questions only Danny could answer]].\\
'''Instead:''' Due to Ward's stubbornness and Joy's paranoia, on top of Danny's appearance, neither of them do.\\
'''Result:''' It's not until the next episode that Joy comes up with a test solution (the M&M's test) by remembering a childhood habit of Danny's the two of them shared. And in the episode after that, Jeri Hogarth tries this trick (by asking Danny very specific questions about her work as an intern in Rand's legal department), and it literally only takes her about a minute to believe this is Danny.

* ''Series/TheDefenders2017'':
** "[[Recap/TheDefenders2017S1E2MeanRightHook Mean Right Hook]]": Danny and Colleen are in a warehouse where they've found the bodies of recently killed Chaste soldiers. A group of cleaners including Cole enter the building carrying [[HollywoodAcid acid]] and a spray hose to dissolve the bodies. Danny and Colleen reveal themselves and engage the cleaners.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That the cleaners would try spraying them with acid to blind them.\\
'''Instead:''' They put their acid cans down and instead fight Danny and Colleen with their fists.\\
'''Result:''' This means their work is preserved when the police arrive minutes later.
** "[[Recap/TheDefenders2017S1E4RoyalDragon Royal Dragon]]": After fleeing Midland Circle and hiding in a Chinese restaurant trying to keep their presence a secret, Matt, Jessica, Luke and Danny are found by an injured Stick who explains that he found them because Danny tried to call Colleen. Stick smashes Danny's phone and reminds him that the Hand can trace their calls.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That they immediate relocate to another safe place, probably somewhere like the ''Bulletin'' or Matt's apartment, before the Hand can get to the Royal Dragon.\\
'''Instead:''' They stay put.\\
'''Result:''' The Hand, tracking Danny's phone, are able to follow them there.
*** Also from this episode: Matt has just recognized Elektra is still alive and has been brainwashed into being the Hand's top assassin.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Matt, remembering how he burned his bridges with Karen and Foggy as a result of keeping them in the dark about what he was doing with Elektra during ''Daredevil'' season 2, as well as the closure of Nelson & Murdock, would immediately come clean with the other Defenders about who Elektra is and his attachment to her.\\
'''Instead:''' He and Stick make it their little secret.\\
'''Result:''' When Elektra shows up for the fight at the Royal Dragon, Jessica, Luke and Danny are quite baffled when Matt splits off from them to fight her one-on-one. And things don't go over well when Matt is eventually forced to come clean about his ties to Elektra when interrogating Sowande.
** "[[Recap/TheDefenders2017S1E6AshesAshes Ashes to Ashes]]": Stick, Matt, Luke, and Jessica decide that if Danny were out with them he would be easier to kidnap, so they need to hide him away.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That they listen to Danny's side, that hiding him away isn't a smart move, and let him have a say in the decisionmaking.\\
'''You'd Also Expect:''' That Danny would keep his emotions in check so that the others might be more willing to listen to him.\\
'''And You'd Also Expect:''' That since the four know the Hand had a habit of popping up when least expected, that Elektra could very likely find them and try to capture Danny.\\
'''Instead:''' Between being shut out of the discussion, and not keeping his anger reined in, Danny lashes out at the group, forcing Matt, Luke and Jessica to tie him up.\\
'''End Result:''' Elektra is able to capture Danny without him being able to defend himself, and she also ends up killing Stick and knocking out Matt, Luke and Jessica in quick succession.\\
'''Even Moreso:''' Even if Danny had just cooperated and stayed behind willingly, it's unlikely that he could have stopped Elektra from capturing him if he fought her alone.
** "[[Recap/TheDefenders2017S1E7FishInTheJailhouse Fish in the Jailhouse]]": Once Danny's kidnapped and taken beneath Midland Circle, Elektra outright tells him that the Iron Fist is needed to open the barrier.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Danny realize that the one thing he shouldn't do during the subsequent fight with Elektra is summon the Iron Fist.\\
'''Instead:''' He does. This leads to Elektra bullfighting him into punching the barrier with the Iron Fist. Granted, he spends most of the fight using his regular martial arts, and only activates the Iron Fist when Elektra pushes him to do it by taunting him.

* ''Series/ThePunisher2017'':
** "[[Recap/ThePunisher2017S01E08ColdSteel Cold Steel]]": After most of Dinah Madani and Sam Stein's backup have just been taken out in a shootout with Billy Russo and his men, Sam manages to corner Russo at gunpoint.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Sam wait for backup to arrive before approaching Russo. Given that Russo had just shot another SWAT officer literally seconds before Sam drew on him, doing so would guarantee that Russo wouldn't be able to make a sudden move on him.\\
'''Or:''' If he approaches Russo, pat him down to make sure he doesn't have any hidden weapons, then put handcuffs on him.\\
'''Instead:''' Sam walks up to Russo and rips off his ski mask.\\
'''Result:''' Russo takes advantage of Sam's shocked reaction to pull out [[BladeBelowTheShoulder a retractable knife mounted on his right arm]] (which he used in the previous episode to kill Colonel Bennett) and stabs Sam to death.
** "[[Recap/ThePunisher2017S01E09FrontTowardEnemy Front Toward Enemy]]": Lewis, having set off bombs in Manhattan, chooses to address a manifesto to Karen Page, as she's previously been an advocate for Frank Castle.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' As Lewis is clearly unhinged, has just blown up an office building, and he literally threatened the ''Bulletin'', that Karen get police protection. Especially since this isn't a resourceful person like Wilson Fisk or the Hand targeting her, but a single individual acting alone; and also since Matt is not around and there's no guarantee Frank could help either.\\
'''Instead:''' She comes out calling him a coward on the radio.\\
'''End Result:''' Lewis responds by targeting Karen and Senator Ori personally at the hotel, while Karen's working relationship with Ellison gets put on thin ice after he learns she was secretly aware Frank has been faking his death this whole time.

* ''Series/{{Inhumans}}'':
** During his coup, Maximus has Black Bolt cornered in his soundproof chamber, the one place where there's no risk of him causing mass-destruction (intentionally or otherwise) with the power of his voice. As yet, Black Bolt has only heard rumors of a possible coup, not that it's actually in progress.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Maximus and his forces would stand ready at the entrance to the chamber, then pounce on Black Bolt as soon as he emerges. While he may be enforcing a FantasticCasteSystem, he does try to be TheGoodKing in other regards, so he won't do anything that'd risk harming innocent bystanders.\\
'''Instead:''' Maximus and his men march right into Black Bolt's chamber, and inform him that's he's being deposed. And ''then'', just to really turn the stupidity UpToEleven, Maximus starts taunting Black Bolt about his accidentally killing their parents, and tries to goad him into doing the same to him. In the middle of the once place where Black Bolt could do just that without causing casualties. The only thing that saves Maximus from his own stupidity is Lockjaw showing up to rescue Black Bolt and teleporting him away.
** Gorgon proves he was clearly the one who didn't get the brains when he was born; firstly, there's when he has to deal with a moonrover that's stumbled upon the cloaking device that's keeping Attilan hidden from the Earth, and because said cloaking device is a solid shield, anyone who's watching the video footage from the camera is going to notice it's stuck against something.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Him to crush the rover with a boulder. To whoever was watching the rover through the camera, it would appear that the rover merely had the misfortune of being in a spot that wound up being where another meteoroids struck the moon (which, given that the moon gets struck by meteoroids daily, is easy to imagine).\\
'''Instead:''' Gorgon crushes the rover with his hoof, and doesn't even do so in a way that hides said foot.\\
'''Result:''' The people on Earth now know there's something on the moon, which is the ''last'' thing that the very secretive Inhumans want.
** Also, there's how he deals with Mordis when the latter tries to bring down the building the other Inhumans are in.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Him to [[NeckSnap snap Mordis's neck]]. Since killing Mordis is the only way to end this situation, snapping his neck would quickly end the situation. The Royal Family doesn't even have a "ThouShallNotKill" policy[[note]]it's possible that Black Bolt and Medusa themselves don't kill, if the fate Black Bolt inflicts upon Maximus in the show's finale was intended to be a demonstration of said policy, and Medusa does object to Karnak killing another Inhuman; however, there's nothing suggesting the other Members of the Royal Family have such a policy, and considering what Gorgon actually does, it's clear he doesn't have such a policy[[/note]], and Karnak even snapped another Inhuman's neck earlier[[note]]so they don't even object to that ''specific'' method of killing someone; Medusa's objection was likely to the killing in general[[/note]], so there's literally no reason for him ''not'' to snap Mordis's neck.\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He opts to use a ShockwaveStomp to kill Mordis, bringing the building down - said stomp being just as dangerous as one of Mordis's blasts]].\\
'''Result:''' [[spoiler: Gorgon dies alongside Mordis. While he does come back later, he had no way of knowing that the Royal Family would bring him back]].

* ''Series/{{Helstrom}}'':
** Ana Helstrom's father made a deal with a woman named Audrey who has a grudge against her after barging into her house with questions. She would lure in Ana into a trap set by him. He is successful and Ana has been beaten into unconsciousness.\\
'''You'd expect:''' That the demon would make sure to restrain her daughter before doing anything else. Or if he wanted to do anything else to just wait until after he puts her in a safe location.\\
'''Instead:''' He proceeds to kill Audrey immediately afterwards, who showed no signs of betraying him whatsoever.\\
'''The Result:''' Ana regains consciousness during that time frame and escapes.
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[[folder:TV Shows - Disney+]]
* ''Series/WandaVision''
** TheReveal comes out that [[spoiler:Wanda snapped because of S.W.O.R.D. Director Tyler Hayward's actions. As we see, after the Blip and battle with Thanos, she came to the facility and asked politely that she wanted Vision's body to give him a funeral. Vision also specified his request in a living will to not be revived, for fear of being turned into a weapon of mass destruction]].\\
'''You'd Expect''': Hayward would respect Vision and Wanda's wishes. If the reasons aren't to give a grieving woman closure, the pragmatic one is that Wanda is a walking being of chaos and an Avenger. Professor Hulk is still around, as is Captain Marvel, and [[Series/TheFalconAndTheWinterSoldier Sam and Bucky have become a dream team]]. They and Tony's legal team could prove that Wanda has the legal right to [[spoiler:Vision's body]] or do a show of force. Need we mention Wanda has glowing red hands and the ability to tear vibranium apart like tissue paper?\\
'''Instead''': He not only refuses to let Wanda do so but also reveals [[spoiler:he has dissected Vision to resurrect him as a living weapon. So all of his actions are illegal and immoral]].\\
'''The Result''': [[spoiler:Wanda creates a sitcom reality in a hex encompassing the town of Westview, completely out of touch with reality and in denial that she's causing more harm than good by subconsciously kidnapping innocent people and making them act out roles in her fantasy. It's only because Hayward is BornLucky that she doesn't fricassee him and the S.W.O.R.D. facility then and there. When Monica keeps trying to reason with her, Wanda boots her out of Westview a few times. Hayward goes NeverMyFault when Monica confronts him for this, saying Wanda is too unstable for negotiations. The season ends with him being arrested by the FBI]].
** Jimmy Woo has been investigating S.W.O.R.D. because the Hex is weird and he knows that Wanda wouldn't willingly trap people given her track record. He ends up captured by Hayward while his allies try to find out what's been going on here and infiltrating confidential information. Meanwhile, Darcy and Monica have willingly entered the Hex to save Wanda from Hayward, and the citizens from Wanda.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Hayward would maintain PlausibleDeniability. He could point out that [[VillainHasAPoint Wanda is holding people hostage]] so the nuclear situation may be the only option, and remind Jimmy about what happened in Sokovia and Lagos. Both of those were Wanda's fault. Also, give Jimmy a WhatTheHellHero for breaking the law in the name of aiding and abetting a fugitive. Jimmy Woo is known for being LawfulGood.\\
'''Instead''': He reveals that he plans to use Vision as a weapon, violating the Sokovia Accords, and killing Wanda as a loose end. What's more, Hayward gloats that no one will believe Jimmy, not even his buddies at the FBI.\\
'''The Result''': Jimmy is SmarterThanYouLook and he takes advantage of CaughtMonologuing. He uses the magic tricks he learned from watching Scott Lang so as to free himself, get a cellphone, and notify his fellow FBI agents about the slew of evidence that proves Hayward committed war crimes. Cue the FBI arriving to Westview as TheCavalry, and arresting Hayward. [[BewareTheSillyOnes Just because Jimmy Woo is a goofball doesn't mean he's incompetent.]]

* ''Series/TheFalconAndTheWinterSoldier''
** In Episode 3, Sam, Bucky, and Zemo go undercover to find the Power Broker.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Sam would turn his phone off, or better yet, get a burner specifically for the mission.\\
'''Instead''': Sam brings his own phone and leaves it on.\\
'''The Result''': Sarah calls Sam in the middle of the op, blows his cover, and the whole thing goes to hell.
** In Episode 4, Sam tries to talk down Karli before she's too far gone. He tells Walker to wait.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Walker to be patient and let Sam work his magic.\\
'''Instead''': After a few minutes, Walker grows impatient and immediately moves in to arrest Karli as Sam comes ''this'' close to talking Karli down and ending her crusade against the government.\\
'''The Result''': Karli ends up thinking Sam betrayed her [[FromBadToWorse and it only gets worse from here]].
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'''Instead:''' He tries to cut the monster's skin from the inside. As pointed out by Peter and Gamora moments later, [[RealityEnsues the skin's just as thick on one side as it is the other]].\\

'''The Result''': Rather than destroy Tony Stark, Ultron is born and nearly destroys the planet, and the Hulk goes on a rampage in Johannesburg.

'''Instead:''' She has her men kill everyone present. Then she has Anansi doused in alcohol, and lights him on fire. Then, while he's burning to death, she shoots him with a revolver that's a family heirloom, one that Cottonmouth had used to kill Uncle Pete in the late 1980s, and which Shades used to kill Candace in the season 1 finale.\\
'''Result:''' With five innocent bystanders dead and one (Bushmaster's aunt Ingrid) wounded, the case becomes a media circus. The police turn up the heat on Mariah's gang, and ultimately establish her as the culprit when the ballistics on the bullet dug out of Anansi's body match it to the same gun used in the prior two murders. Shades, for his part, is also appalled at Mariah's ruthlessness, and decides to turn informant, leading them to the gun in question.

'''You'd Expect:''' That Nadeem would not take Fisk's allegations at face value, even if the information Fisk has been giving to Nadeem up to this point has been reliable. This is because Matt is different from the previous people Fisk has given up. So far, Fisk has solely been handing the FBI criminals that (as far as Nadeem is aware) he has no obvious motivation to be going after.[[note]]Fisk is using the FBI to take down rival criminals of his and take their various corrupt officials and connections for himself, making him a one-stop shop for bribery and protection from prosecution for whatever criminals are left[[/note]] Matt is not a known criminal, and Fisk has a blatantly obvious motive for going after him: Nelson & Murdock opposed Fisk at every turn in season 1, between exonerating someone that Fisk had tried to frame for murder for stumbling on criminal activity tied to him (Karen), the whole tenement case with Mrs. Cardenas, and representing Carl Hoffman, one of the prosecution's star witnesses against Fisk. In short, Nadeem should consider the possibility that Matt is someone that Fisk has a personal vendetta against, and question Fisk further.\\

'''You'd Expect:''' That Nadeem would not take Fisk's allegations at face value, even if Fisk has given reliable information in the past. This because Matt is different from the previous people Fisk has given up. All the people Fisk has given up to the FBI at this point are known criminals that (as far as Nadeem is aware) he has no obvious motivation to be going after.[[note]]Fisk is using the FBI to take down rival criminals of his and take their various corrupt officials and connections for himself, making him a one-stop shop for bribery and protection from prosecution for whatever criminals are left[[/note]] Matt is not a known criminal, and Fisk has a blatantly obvious motive for going after him: Nelson & Murdock opposed Fisk at every turn in season 1, between exonerating someone that Fisk tried to frame for murder for stumbling on criminal activity tied to him (Karen), the whole tenement case with Mrs. Cardenas, and representing Carl Hoffman, one of the prosecution's star witnesses against Fisk. In short, Nadeem should consider the possibility that Matt is someone that Fisk has a personal vendetta against, and question Fisk further.\\
'''Instead:''' He believes every word of Fisk's bullshit, for the sake of his promotion.\\

** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S3E5ThePerfectGame The Perfect Game]]", Fisk decides to leverage the FBI for the return of his personal possessions by accusing Matt of being an old accomplice of his.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Nadeem would research first and consider it very suspicious that Matt was part of the firm that took down Wilson Fisk through their representation of Carl Hoffman, one of the star witnesses ''against'' Fisk. And since anyone with any sort of common sense would find it ridiculous to believe that Matt would have served Fisk in any way, he would also consider the possibility that Matt is someone Fisk might have a personal vendetta against.\\
'''Instead:''' He believes every word of Fisk's bullshit.\\

'''In Addition:''' Even though Karen doesn't know at this point that the imposter Daredevil is an FBI agent, she knows Fisk has corrupted law enforcement officials (between Farnum's attempt on her in jail during the Union Allied case as well as Nelson & Murdock's representation of Carl Hoffman, a corrupt cop who named other cops that Fisk had on his payroll), and thus should assume that some of the agents in the penthouse are loyal to Fisk and not the FBI.\\

'''You'd Expect:''' For Nadeem to realize that where there's one corrupt FBI agent, there's likely a bunch of others as well. After all, it's public knowledge that Fisk had a large number of NYPD cops in his pocket besides Christian Blake and Carl Hoffman. Therefore, Nadeem should trust none of his superiors in the FBI (as they're suspect number one as far as FBI agents Fisk is likely to sway to his side are concerned) and take his information to the NYPD.\\
'''Particularly:''' Take his information to Brett Mahoney. Brett is known in the NYPD for being the cop who arrested Fisk, has a direct line to the real Daredevil, and since the NYPD are likely looking for Dex as well, they can open an investigation into his activities and place him under surveillance without the FBI realizing what's going on.\\

'''The Result''': Klaue kills thousands of Wakandans while stealing the vibranium, and he reneges on the deal with N'Jobu. T'Chaka busts N'Jobu and demands an explanation, and kills him on the spur of the moment when N'Jobu threatens the life of the spy who sold him out. No one wins, except Klaue.\\

** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E3RabbitInASnowstorm Rabbit in a Snowstorm]]": James Wesley visits Nelson & Murdock to hire the firm to defend John Healy. When he's let into the office, he recognizes Karen from his prior attempts to have her killed. Throughout his conversation with the lawyers, Matt is suspicious of Wesley given his refusal to say his name and the amount of background he's done on Matt and Foggy.\\

'''You'd Expect:''' Anatoly or Vladimir would call James Wesley, and leave it to Wesley to set up a meeting so that the Russian gangsters can meet Fisk in person and solidify a partnership where Fisk can supply them with funding and resources for their campaign against Matt.\\

'''End Result:''' Fisk, enraged by Anatoly's intrusion into his private life, has Anatoly driven to a vacant lot, where he personally beats Anatoly unconscious, then decapitates him with a car door. He then proceeds to have the Russians' hideouts bombed, and corrupt cops sent in to finish off the survivors, Vladimir included, to prevent further retaliation for Anatoly's death.

'''You'd Expect:''' Piotr would keep his mouth shut. There's a reason no one's supposed to say Fisk's name.\\
'''Instead:''' He mentions Fisk's name.\\

'''You'd Expect:''' Much like back in "Into the Ring," when Matt and Foggy strongarmed them into letting Karen go free following Farnum's failed attempt on her life, Hoffman or Blake would step outside the interrogation room, call Wesley and ask for instructions. It'd be best to not raise any suspicions that they're dirty, so the ideal fate for Piotr would be the same fate given to Rance (and which Farnum had attempted to give to Karen): a jailhouse hanging.\\

'''Result:''' Between that and Frank's trial falling apart the very next day, coupled with Matt being dragged into Stick and Elektra's war with the Hand, Matt doesn't get a chance to come clean with her until the end of the season.

'''You'd Expect:''' It's been less than a year since Wilson Fisk was arrested, and it's public knowledge that he'd killed corrupt cops who became problems for him. Knowing this, Scarfe would consider that being crooked means his badge won't protect him, and thus have some sort of insurance on hand, like mention that Internal Affairs is investigating him, or that he has a hidden ledger with details of the various crimes he's committed or covered up for Cottonmouth, one that will be released to the public if anything happens to him.\\

'''You'd Expect:''' It's been less than a year since Wilson Fisk was arrested, and it was established that he'd killed corrupt cops who became problems for him. Knowing this, Scarfe would consider that being crooked means his badge won't protect him, and thus have some sort of insurance on hand, like mention that Internal Affairs is investigating him, or that he has a hidden ledger with details of the various crimes he's committed or covered up for Cottonmouth, one that will be released to the public if anything happens to him.\\

'''Result:''' Hoffman almost doesn't go through with it when it's time to inject the poison, meaning that if Matt had been a few minutes quicker to show up at the hospital (after being tipped off by Karen that Blake is out of his coma), Blake might've survived. And after the murder, Hoffman immediately goes into hiding and is scooped up by Leland Owlsley as a bargaining chip. Eventually, he goes to the police and gives up Fisk in a plea deal negotiated by Nelson & Murdock. His testimony ends up guaranteeing Fisk's conviction on five RICO counts as he can testify to Fisk ordering him to commit a murder, and link Fisk to plenty of other murders.
** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E8ShadowsInTheGlass Shadows in the Glass]]": When Wilson Fisk was twelve years old, his father Bill ran for city council. He had to borrow money in order to fund his campaign.\\

'''Result:''' Bill digs his own grave a couple ways at once. Aside from the possible scandal that would have arisen if his borrowing from the mafia got exposed, there was no guarantee he would win, especially given the community's opinion on him. Naturally he loses, and it's only thanks to Wilson beating him to death with a hammer for beating his mother that Bill is spared a potentially more gruesome retribution from the mafia.

'''Result:''' Fisk hires a junkie to kill Elena, both to get rid of an obstacle to his plans for the property, and also to lure Matt into an ambush by Nobu. Although it's just as likely Fisk would've settled for killing someone else (like one of Elena's neighbors) had Elenaaccepted the offer.

'''End Result:''' By this point, it's not a matter of ''if'' it is going to end badly for Tone, but ''how'' badly it's going to end for him. Cottonmouth, furious that Chico is still alive and devastated that Pop is dead, [[DestinationDefenestration throws him off the roof to his death]].

'''You'd Expect:''' Given that Wilson Fisk killed corrupt cops who became problems for him, that Scarfe would consider that being crooked means his badge may not protect him, and thus have some sort of insurance on hand, like mention that Internal Affairs is investigating him and if he turns up dead, they'll find out Cottonmouth was responsible.\\
'''Instead:''' Scarfe goes to meet with Cottonmouth, and tries to shake him down. [[HotBlooded Cottonmouth]] responds by attacking him, manages to wrestle his gun away, and shoots him.\\
'''Now You'd Expect:''' That upon emptying the gun, Cottonmouth would walk behind the car and finish off Scarfe by bashing his head in/strangling him/something, seeing as those bullets failed to kill him.\\
'''Instead:''' Cottonmouth gets back in his own car and drives off. Scarfe manages to make it back to Pop's Barber Shop and tell Luke everything he knows before he dies.

'''Instead:''' She has her men kill everyone present. Then she has Anansi doused in alcohol, and lights him on fire. Then, while he's burning to death, she shoots him with a revolver that's a family heirloom.\\
'''Result:''' With five innocent bystanders dead and one (Bushmaster's aunt Ingrid) wounded, the case becomes a media circus. The police turn up the heat on Mariah's gang, and catch a break when the ballistics come back on the bullet that killed Anansi, since Cottonmouth had used the revolver to kill Uncle Pete in the late 1980s, and Shades had used it in the season 1 finale to kill Candace. Shades, for his part, is also appalled at Mariah's ruthlessness, and decides to turn informant, leading them to the gun in question.

'''Result:''' Hoffman almost doesn't go through with it when it's time to inject the poison, meaning that if Matt had been a few minutes quicker to show up at the hospital (after being tipped off by Karen that Blake is out of his coma), Blake might've survived. And after the murder, Hoffman immediately goes into hiding and is scooped up by Leland Owlsley as a bargaining chip. Eventually, he goes to the police and gives up Fisk in a plea deal negotiated by Nelson & Murdock. His testimony ends up guaranteeing Fisk's conviction on five RICO counts as he can testify to Fisk ordering him to commit a murder, and link Fisk to plenty of other murders.\\

** "Shadows in the Glass": Detective Blake has just come out of a coma after the sniper attack on him in "Condemned" failed to kill him. Fisk and Wesley know that Blake, bitter over getting shot, is likely to give up information on them. They also know that none of the cops guarding Blake's room are on their payroll.\\

'''Result:''' Hoffman almost doesn't go through with it when he inserts the poison into Blake's IV line. After the murder, he immediately goes into hiding and is scooped up by Leland Owlsley as a bargaining chip. Eventually, he goes to the police and gives up Fisk in a plea deal negotiated by Nelson & Murdock. His testimony ends up guaranteeing Fisk's conviction on five RICO counts as he can testify to Fisk ordering him to commit a murder, and link Fisk to plenty of other murders.

'''As a result:''' When Wesley's phone rings as Fisk tries to call him to find out where the hell he's gone, Karen grabs the gun and shoots him to death. Because no one knows where Wesley was going or who he was talking to, he ends up taking valuable intelligence on who knows Fisk's deepest secrets to his grave. Fisk does kill Ben after getting a tipoff from a mole at the ''Bulletin'' (but Ben deliberately doesn't reveal to him that Karen was with him), and his mother dies shortly after he is convicted and sent to prison, but Fisk doesn't know someone else is out there who knows everything about his background until Karen visits him in season 3. \\
'''To Add to the Stupidity:''' As Wesley tries to talk Karen down, [[TooDumbToLive he even asks her if she thinks he's dumb enough to make such a mistake.]] Karen, who once shot her drug-dealing boyfriend to protect her brother, calls his bluff.

'''Instead:''' The owner tries to upsell Frank, offering [=DVDs=] of increasingly extreme porn, culminating in child pornography. Which is dumb in two ways: 1) Frank has demonstrated literally nothing to indicate that he's interested in buying anything else from the man, certainly not extreme BDSM porn, and ''definitely'' not child pornography. All he's demonstrated is that he's a professional criminal. 2) [[EvenEvilHasStandards Many criminals despise child molesters and child pornography in general.]] So if the buyer was the average criminal, this probably wouldn't end well for the seller. But this is The Punisher.\\
'''End Result:''' The seller is so dense that even as Frank turns around and flips the sign in the door to "CLOSED" to prevent any witnesses from walking in, he still thinks he's making a sale, not about to get beaten to death with a baseball bat.

'''Result:''' Matt isn't all that inclined to offer to help Elektra out, pointing out, "Well, sweetheart, you don't break into my house and then talk to me about trust." She is thus forced to use further manipulation tactics to sway Matt over, like making a deposit into Nelson & Murdock's bank account, or stealing his Daredevil armor and manipulating him into coming over to her penthouse so he'll have to wear it while helping her fight off some ninjas.

'''You'd Expect:''' That in the time between Karen showing up at the door, Stick letting her in, and presumably bringing her to the door, Matt would realize that it's Karen and know that seeing Elektra in his bed is a bad idea and try to shoo her away.\\

'''You'd Now Expect:''' That because Karen knows Matt is a reasonable, sweet, and overall decent man, she would notice that Elektra was clearly not well, and assume that Matt and Stick are taking care of a friend of Matt's. The fact that Matt was at her bedside, and not say, lying in it with her seems like a pretty big tip. And again, Stick was right outside the door and he let her in, so Matt wasn't even alone. And also perhaps, on Matt's end, that he would explain what was going on, even if this meant having to admit he was Daredevil.\\

'''Predictably:''' Fisk is still paying the guards and inmates there. He remotely orders the guards and inmates to start a riot in an attempt to kill Matt.

'''Result:''' Shades becomes suspicious of Comanche, especially when Comanche isn't present for important events like Bushmaster visiting Mariah at Harlem's Paradise to threaten her, or being unable to be found when Bushmaster makes his declaration of war on Mariah (Comanche doesn't help himself along the way by asking Shades questions about Mariah that come off like he's fishing for information). Eventually, a moment of idiocy by Ridenhour leads to Comanche's snitch status, and Shades ultimately killing him for it.

'''Result:''' This ends up ruining his intended cover story for Comanche's death, because as Misty points out, Ridenhour wouldn't have had the strength to fire the second shot.

'''You'd Expect:''' Mariah to have one of her men shoot Anansi in the head. His death alone should be enough to draw Bushmaster out of hiding.\\

'''Result:''' With five innocent bystanders dead and one (Bushmaster's aunt Ingrid) wounded, the police double down on their efforts to catch Mariah, who they are quick to identify as the suspect when the ballistics come back on the bullet that killed Anansi, since Cottonmouth had used the revolver to kill Uncle Pete in the late 1980s, and Shades had used it in the season 1 finale to kill Candace. Shades, for his part, is also appalled at Mariah's ruthlessness, and decides to turn informant.

'''Instead''': Every time he gets as much as a whiff of Bruce's various locations, Ross sends in special armed forces to utilize brute force and MoreDakka. This inevitably triggers Bruce's unwilling transformations into the Hulk, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking which causes immense property damage, danger to civilian and military lives, and Betty's wrath.]] And no, Ross does not learn. The one time he actually manages to handcuff Bruce is when the latter has just taken a potential antidote, which suppresses the transformation until Bruce needs to change again to save New York from the Abomination. In ''The Avengers'', when Natasha talks to Bruce and offers him a job because of his gamma knowledge, she's much more successful in persuading him.\\

'''Instead''': He orders all his men to charge into the university in broad daylight, alerting Bruce and Betty, causing chaos amongst the students and teachers, and terrifying Bruce enough that he transforms soon after they get to him. [[StuffBlowingUp Then that leads to several million dollars in property damage]]...

'''You'd Expect''': Thor would signal his intentions to arrive peacefully. Nick Fury mentions that the first time Thor arrived, Loki had sent an Asgardian monster that would have killed dozens. So Asgardians haven't exactly made a good first impression.\\
'''Instead''': Thor rips open the Avengers jet and abducts.\\

** Loki has won round one of his confrontation with the Avengers. He busted out of SHIELD custody, awakened the Hulk to cause chaos, and sent Thor falling. Tony and Steve figure out that he must be using the new Stark tower to headline the Chitauri invasion; Tony goes ahead to face the god, while Steve helps Natasha and Hawkeye, who was freed from Loki's brainwashing. Loki is waiting for Tony at the tower, who decides to take off his damaged suit and orders Jarvis to prepare the upgrade fast. With a smirk, Loki starts taunting Tony about begging for mercy. Tony retorts, while headed to the tower bar, that he's actually going to threaten him. Loki follows, in an EvilGloating mode.\\

'''Instead''': They just leave him there (assuming Tony's not an UnreliableNarrator, that is), and he eventually regains consciousness and links up with Tony, who also has escaped captivity as well.

'''Instead''': Steve hides the flash drive in the vending machine between the two packs of gum left. And he leaves the drive tilted such that, if anyone actually wanted to purchase said gum as they scanned the machine's wares, the drive is clearly visible. He gets lucky in that one of his allies, Black Widow, finds it first, but it was a close call.

'''You'd Think''': Ronan would immediately use the Power Stone and annihilate the planet without gloating, especially since Quill and his buds are still alive, and still would pose even the slightest threat to his evil plans.\\

'''You'd Expect''': Scott to come clean about his criminal past. Baskin-Robbins is willing to hire people with a criminal record as long as they are honest about it.\\

'''Result:''' Though his boss is sympathetic, he still has to fire Scott for legal reasons.

'''Instead''': The President appoints Thaddeus Ross. A man who believes [[FantasticRacist all enhanced individuals are government property]], who is so incompetent that his long quest to capture the Hulk not only failed but inadvertently led to the creation of the Abomination, who is so predictable that Coulson easily pulled a BatmanGambit on him, who is so [[HateSink universally despised]] that even his own daughter wants nothing to do with him, and who commands so little respect that even Tony Stark and James Rhodes, who willingly signed the Accords, don't hesitate to hang up on him when they don't feel like dealing with his bullshit. \\

'''You'd Expect''': Him to focus on the battle against Ultron and the hospital, and to maybe offer benefits to the Avengers such as better funding and equipment, public support, etc. They could even offer training for Wanda in how to use her powers more carefully. \\

'''The Result:''' This causes the Avengers to become even more split on the Accords, with some supporting it like Tony or Natasha (albeit reluctantly in her case), and others opposing it like Steve and Sam. This culminates in a ''huge'' battle between the Avengers that wrecks ''a whole airport,'' resulting in all the people on Steve's side being incarcerated.
** Wanda, while on an Avengers mission, ends up causing a explosion in a hospital. She's extremely regretful about it, while Captain America tells her it was his fault for not leading well, and the team knows that it's NotHelpingYourCase after what happened with Ultron. Wanda also as a result becomes a public menace, and feared.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That given Wanda's track record and her image, that the entire team would sit and discuss how to handle the situation, and what to do with Wanda. She did mess up, Tony points out she doesn't have a visa and thus is in danger every time she leaves Avengers headquarters, and unlike the others, including Black Widow who has "red in her ledger" and Hawkeye who was brainwashed into assisting with mass murder, she doesn't have a low profile.\\

'''The Result:''' While the punishment is light considering the collateral damage Wanda caused and that the HQ is a GildedCage with appropriate protection, his lack of communication drives further rifts in the team. Wanda takes offense at being treated like a naughty child, Captain America is furious that Tony enforced the house arrest without telling anyone, including Wanda, and Hawkeye finds the situation absurd when he comes to bust her out.
** Falcon recruits Scott Lang aka Ant-Man to help Captain America take down super soldiers. Falcon also tells Scott that this trip is an illegal endeavor due to the Sokovia Accords and if they get caught then Scott is back in jail.\\

'''The Result''': The Pym technology gets outed, forcing father and daughter on the run, and Hank gives a WhatTheHellHero to Scott about it. Hope also calls out Scott, saying that at least he could have given her the choice to accompany him.

'''Instead:''' [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Rocket]] decides to steal some very valuable anulax batteries from the Sovereign, simply to get back at them for their snobbery, and because he felt like it. This after he called Drax out for siccing Ronan on the Guardians for the sake of his personal revenge in the last movie.\\

'''To Make Matters Worse:''' And as a [[SarcasmMode bonus]], the Sovereign armada shows up during the final battle and nearly screw things up for the Guardians and as a result of their attack, Peter's mask is damaged and Yondu has to sacrifice his life to save him when Ego is destroyed. Their arrival also contributes to the deaths of thousands more people as their interference delays the heroes' destruction of Ego's brain, allowing the Expansion to continue.

'''You'd Think:''' The Ravagers would have destroyed that crest, too. Or at least changed where it's hidden.\\

'''Result:''' Yondu and Rocket have Baby Groot and Kraglin acquire the crest, and Rocket reinstalls it on Yondu's head. To the mutineers' credit, Taserface does raise the alarm immediately upon waking up and finding it missing. Unfortunately, by that point, "Come A Little Bit Closer" has started to play over the ship's PA system...

'''Instead:''' She sneaks off in the middle of the night to her apartment ''alone'', only to be attacked again. If Matt hadn't have followed her, she'd have died there.

'''You'd think:''' She'd bring someone else with her, or at least be prepared for trouble, given she's investigating men menacing people on the very block she's investigating.\\

'''Result:''' Matt becomes even more suspicious of Wesley and follows him out of the office, losing the trail when he gets into a car with Fisk and is driven away. Karen, meanwhile, realizes Wesley is involved with the people who tried to have her killed, and her meeting with the Union Allied attorney goes badly as she realizes he's trying to pay her off. She starts investigating Union Allied, eventually uncovers their ties to Fisk's other criminal operations, and kicks off a chain of events that ends in Wesley's death at Karen's hands.

'''You'd Expect:''' Anatoly to call James Wesley, and leave it to Wesley to set up a meeting so that the Russian gangsters can meet Fisk in person and solidify a partnership where Fisk can supply them with funding and resources for their campaign against Matt.\\

** One could say Blake and Hoffman had a moment of this too. The fact that Piotr has said Fisk's name makes him a liability that needs to die.\\

** "Shadows in the Glass": Detective Christian Blake has just come out of a coma after the sniper attack on him in "Condemned" failed to kill him. Fisk and Wesley know that Blake is likely to start talking about the work he's done for them. They also know that none of the cops guarding Blake's room are on their payroll.\\

'''You'd Expect:''' Fisk to pretend to accept Owlsley's offer to part with half his money. While doing so, he can have his men shadow Owlsley. Then, once they find out where Hoffman is stashed, they can kill Hoffman and Owlsley.\\

'''Result:''' While Fisk does immediately also give orders for Hoffman to be hunted down for execution, he's forced to move much quicker before the DeadMansSwitch kicks in, due to not knowing where Hoffman is stashed. Fisk is also forced to enlist his dirty cops to help out, and Matt is tipped off when he overhears them talking about the search while he and Foggy are at the precinct talking with Brett. Which means Nelson & Murdock find out where Hoffman is hiding and Matt is able to rescue him just as one of Fisk's hit squads tracks him down and is about to finish him off.

'''Instead:''' They don't. And indeed, Frank had stuffed a bomb under the money, which explodes once someone tries to grab some cash out of the briefcase.\\

'''Instead:''' Fisk keeps her body (and the bodies of her assassins) in a walk-in freezer. This allows Dex to quickly find the body and be given reason to turn against Fisk after Matt tortures this information out of Felix Manning and relays it to him.\\

'''The Result''': Jimmy is SmarterThanYouLook and he takes advantage of CaughtMonologuing. He uses the magic tricks he learned from watching Scott Lang so as to free himself, get a cellphone, and notify his fellow FBI agents about the slew of evidence that proves Hayward committed war crimes. Cue the FBI arriving to Westview as TheCavalry, and arresting Hayward. Just because Jimmy Woo is a goofball doesn't mean he's incompetent.

'''You'd Expect''': Walker to be patient and let Sam work his magic\\

** In "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S2E8GuiltyAsSin Guilty as Sin]]", Karen visits Matt's apartment. She manages to make it to Matt's room, where he's talking to Elektra.\\

'''Instead''': N'Jobu sells out Wakandan vibranium to Ulysses Klaue, an arms dealer who holds a grudge against Wakanda after his family got killed.\\
'''The Result''': Klaue kills thousands of Wakandans while stealing the vibranium and he reneges on the deal with N'Jobu. T'Chaka busts N'Jobu and demands an explanation, and kills him on the spur of the moment when N'Jobu threatens the life of the spy who sold him out. No one wins, except Klaue.

** Earth is being attacked by aliens, again, and both Vision and Iron Man are MIA. Secretary Ross is videoconferencing with Col. Rhodes (the last Avenger around) when Cpt. Rogers and several other former heroes on the run due largely to administrative disputes show up along with a damaged Vision in Rhodes's office. Cpt. Rogers tells Ross that he's not looking for forgiveness, but he's going to fight the aliens and Ross can either stay out of the way or fight them. Col. Rhodes also points out that while he signed the Accords, he's slowly coming to disagree with them after the events of ''Civil War'' paralyzed him, and especially in light of the fact they caused the Avengers to become divided.\\

** At the film's climax, Thanos has just assembled all of the Infinity Stones and inserted them into his gauntlet, when Thor suddenly appears and buries his axe deep into Thanos's chest, leaving him critically wounded, but still alive, to which Thor stands over Thanos, gloating about having gotten revenge for [[spoiler:Thanos murdering half of the surviving Asgardians]].\\

'''Result:''' Thanos grins, says, [[LampshadeHanging "you should have gone for the head,"]] [[spoiler: and uses the Infinity Gauntlet to ''obliterate half the population of the universe'', including Winter Soldier, Black Panther, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Star Lord, Drax, Groot, Mantis, Dr. Strange, Spider-Man, Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Hank Pym, Hope van Dyne, Wasp, Shuri (as revealed in ''Endgame''), Sharon Carter (as revealed in ''Falcon and the Winter Soldier''), and Hawkeye's entire family ([[WordOfGod plus Betty Ross and Sif, according to the Russo Brothers]]) included. Thor eventually gets PTSD from guilt, and ends up becoming a fat, layabout shlub who drowns his regrets in beer and junk food]]. [[DownerEnding The End]].

'''The Result''': It's a trap; [[spoiler:the Skrulls capture Carol by having one of their own shapeshift into the spy who knows the secret codes. They then examine her memories and realize it's full of holes. When Carol escapes, she makes herself and the Skrulls crash onto Earth]].
** Meanwhile, on Earth, Nick Fury from S.H.I.E.L.D. gets a call about a strange woman in a laser-tag suit crashing through the roof of a Blockbuster and raiding the Radio Shack next door for parts. He finds Carol talking on the payphone, and apart from a half-hearted HeWentThatWay ploy, she's honest that she's from another planet and trying to stop an alien invasion.\\

'''Predictably''': The only reason [[spoiler:the ruse]] goes on for so long is that he's dealing with a child co-hero and [[spoiler:Talos, who is impersonating Nick Fury, with Nick's permission. Another child, Michelle Jones, finds evidence that Quentin is a fraud and shows Peter Parker, her classmate whom she knows is Spider-Man. This ends up leading to Quentin's downfall, especially when a MadeOfIron Peter returns from Quentin's murder attempt to save Michelle and his other friends. And by then Not-Fury starts to catch on too]].

'''Result:''' Matt becomes even more suspicious of Wesley and follows him out of the office, losing the trail when he gets into a car with Fisk and is driven away. Karen, meanwhile, realizes Wesley is involved with the people who tried to have her killed, and starts investigating Union Allied, eventually uncovering their ties to Fisk's other criminal operations, and kicking off a chain of events that ends in Wesley's death at Karen's hands.

'''You'd think:''' Anatoly to call James Wesley, and leave it to Wesley to set up a meeting so that the Russian gangsters can meet Fisk in person and solidify a partnership where Fisk can supply them with funding and resources for their campaign against Matt.\\

** The season 1 finale, "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E13Daredevil Daredevil]]": Fisk finds out that Leland Owlsley was behind the poisoning of Vanessa at his fundraiser, Owlsley has been skimming from him, and on top of that, Owlsley has squirreled away Carl Hoffman, who can implicate Fisk in several murders. Owlsley also makes clear that if he dies, [[DeadMansSwitch Hoffman will go to the FBI with everything he knows about Fisk]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Fisk to pretend to accept Owlsley's offer to part with half his money. While doing so, he can make arrangements for his hitmen to locate and kill Hoffman, so that Owlsley doesn't have leverage. Then he can kill Owlsley at no further risk to himself.\\

'''Result:''' While Fisk does immediately also give orders for Hoffman to be hunted down for execution, Matt eventually finds out about Hoffman, and manages to rescue him just as one of Fisk's hit squads tracks him down and is about to finish him off.

'''Instead:''' She doesn't. She effectively is ambushed by Thembi Wallace during the interview, and all Mariah can do is end the interview and kick Thembi and her camera crew out. There are calls then from the public and fellow city councilmen for her resignation, which are only silenced when [[spoiler:she kills Cottonmouth and pins his death on Luke]]. She is eventually forced to step down from the city council, though still has some prestige as the owner of Harlem's Paradise.

'''You'd Expect:''' Wesley to feign not knowing Karen. She's never met him before, and he's aware that Fisk intends to bribe her into silence.\\

'''As a result:''': Matt lets Sullivan speak into his radio... and he immediately shouts his location before Matt can knock him out. Not only do Blake and Hoffman take command of the scene, but the [[SWATTeam ESU team]] that eventually enters the building to "rescue" Sullivan are corrupt, and [[CopKiller kill him]] [[KillerCop by cutting his throat.]]

'''Instead:''' ...and Domingo monologues, long enough for Diamondback and his men to get the drop on them and open fire.

'''Instead:''' He doesn't. As a result, Ward and Joy rebuff him because even though he's saying things they ought to remember (like Ward's bullying), he comes off as an insane homeless acrobat, called "Cirque de Psychopath", and they're not willing to believe him.

'''Instead:''' Due to Ward's stubbornness and Joy's paranoia, on top of Danny's appearance, neither of them do. It isn't until the third episode that this is done by Jeri Hogarth, and using this trick, it literally only takes her about a minute to believe him.

'''Instead:''' They put their acid cans down and instead fight Danny and Colleen with their fists.

'''Instead:''' They stay put, and the Hand are able to follow them there.

'''Instead:''' He and Stick make it their little secret, meaning that when Elektra shows up for the fight at the Royal Dragon, Jessica, Luke and Danny are quite baffled when Matt splits off from them to fight her one-on-one. And things don't go over well when Matt is eventually forced to come clean about his ties to Elektra when interrogating Sowande.

'''The Result''': [[spoiler:Wanda creates the sitcom version in Westview, completely out of touch with reality and in denial that she's causing more harm than good by subconsciously kidnapping innocent people and making them act out roles in her fantasy. It's only because Hayward is BornLucky that she doesn't fricassee him and the S.W.O.R.D. facility then and there. When Monica keeps trying to reason with her, Wanda boots her out of Westview a few times. Hayward goes NeverMyFault when Monica confronts him for this, saying Wanda is too unstable for negotiations. The season ends with him being arrested by the FBI]].
** Jimmy Woo has been investigating S.W.O.R.D. because the Hex is weird and he knows that Wanda wouldn't willingly trap people given her track record. He ends up captured by Hayward while his crew tries to find out what's been going on here and infiltrating confidential information. Meanwhile, Darcy and Monica have willingly entered the Hex to save Wanda from Hayward, and the citizens from Wanda.\\

'''To Add to the Stupidity:''' As Wesley tries to talk Karen down, [[TooDumbToLive he even asks her if she thinks he's dumb enough to make such a mistake.]] Karen, who once shot her drug-dealing boyfriend to protect her brother, calls his bluff.\\

'''As a result:''' When Wesley's phone rings as Fisk tries to call him to find out where he is, Karen grabs the gun and shoots him to death.\\

'''Furthermore:''' Wesley ends up taking valuable intelligence on who knows Fisk's deepest secrets with him to his grave. Fisk does kill Ben after getting a tipoff from a mole at the ''Bulletin'' (but Ben deliberately doesn't reveal to him that Karen was with him), and his mother dies shortly after he is convicted and sent to prison, but Fisk doesn't know someone else is out there who knows everything about his background until Karen visits him in season 3.

'''Instead:''' Wesley doesn't tell Francis where he's going. And while interrogating Karen, he not only leaves her unrestrained (expecting the drugs he knocked her out with to do the job), but leaves the gun on the table where she can easily reach for it. '''And''' he also tells Karen that Fisk is unaware of what he's up to.\\
'''As a result:''' Karen realizes that [[HaveYouToldAnyoneElse Fisk won't find out about what she's up to if she kills Wesley]], and seizes the first opportunity, which comes moments later when Fisk calls Wesley to find out where the hell he is. Karen takes advantage of Wesley being distracted by his ringing phone to grab the gun and point it at him. As he tries to talk her down, [[TooDumbToLive he even asks her if she thinks he's dumb enough to make such a mistake.]] Karen, who once shot her drug-dealing boyfriend who was beating up her brother with a tire iron, calls his bluff, and shoots Wesley to death.\\
'''Worse:''' Because Wesley didn't tell anyone where he was going, he ends up taking valuable intelligence on who knows Fisk's deepest secrets with him to his grave. Fisk does kill Ben after getting a tipoff from a mole at the ''Bulletin'' (but Ben deliberately doesn't reveal to him that Karen was with him), and his mother dies shortly after he is convicted and sent to prison, but Fisk doesn't know someone else is out there who knows everything about his background until Karen visits him in season 3.

'''As a result:''' Karen realizes that [[HaveYouToldAnyoneElse Fisk won't find out about what she's up to if she kills Wesley]], and seizes the first opportunity, which comes moments later when Fisk calls Wesley to find out where the hell he is. Karen takes advantage of Wesley being distracted by his ringing phone to grab the gun and point it at him. As he tries to talk her down, [[TooDumbToLife he even asks her if she thinks he's dumb enough to make such a mistake.]] Karen, who once shot her drug-dealing boyfriend who was beating up her brother with a tire iron, calls his bluff, and shoots Wesley to death.\\

'''You'd think:''' Wesley would restrain Karen in any way, as even if he has a gun, if she runs, it's less convenient if he shoots her in the back.\\
'''Instead:''' Wesley leaves the loaded gun on a table in reach of an unrestrained Karen.\\
'''As a result:''' When his phone rings, due to Fisk trying to call him to find out what he's doing, Karen grabs the gun and points at him. As he tries to talk her down, he even asks her if she thinks he's dumb enough to make such a mistake. Karen, who once shot her drug-dealing boyfriend who was beating up her brother with a tire iron, calls his bluff, and shoots Wesley to death.\\
'''To Make Matters Worse:''' Wesley doesn't tell anyone, not even Fisk, or Fisk's head of security (who supplied him with the gun) of where he was going, who he was going to talk to, or what he was doing. Thus, he dies taking valuable intelligence on who knows Fisk's deepest secrets with him to his grave. He even tells Karen this, unintentionally telling her [[HaveYouToldAnyoneElse that she's pretty much off the hook if she kills him]]. Fisk does kill Ben after getting a tipoff from a mole at the ''Bulletin'', and his mother dies shortly after he is convicted and sent to prison, but he doesn't know someone else is out there who knows everything about his background until Karen visits him in season 3.

'''Or:''' If he approaches Russo, pat him down to make sure he doesn't have any hidden weapons, then put handcuffs on him.

** Bruce Banner is on the run. That's because he experimented with gamma radiation in an effort to recreate Dr. Erskine's Captain America formula. The commanding officer in charge of Banner's project, General Thaddeus Ross, wants to contain him as a weapon and to exploit his potential.\\

** General Ross has received word that fugitive Bruce Banner will be at Culver University. This is his chance to capture him.\\

'''Instead''': Thor rips open the Avengers jet and steals Loki away.\\
'''The Result''': Iron Man gets angry and attacks Thor, telling them, "Then don't steal my stuff." Thor and he engage in a brawl, as a smirking Loki watches. Captain America has to talk them down, after Thor levels a forest.

'''You'd Expect''': Loki to realize that if Tony is indeed stalling, to just cut to the chase and either try to brainwash him or kill him. Iron Man showed he has firepower, and enough snark to make the Hudson River into the Dead Sea. He must be stalling for a reason. Maybe accepting the drink that Tony offers will be a good idea, since the invasion hasn't started yet and Tony has good taste in hard liquor.\\

'''Instead:''' Steve decides to keep Tony in the dark and never told him any of this.\\

** Near the end of the movie, Ronan the Accuser's ship crashes onto the surface of Xandar, he survives the crash, and is going to annihilate Xandar with the Infinity Stone.\\
'''You'd Think''': Ronan would immediately use his Infinity Stone and annihilate the planet without gloating, especially since Quill and his buds are still alive, and still would pose even the slightest threat to his evil plans.\\
'''Instead''': Ronan takes his sweet time to gloat and mock the Guardians before annihilating Xandar, giving our heroes enough time to improvise a distraction so they can separate him from the Infinity Stone.

'''You'd Expect''': Wanda would have thought through her revenge so that it doesn't cost innocent lives. She's been a Hydra weapon for years, so it's safe to assume that she has some knowledge of planning things out for the long-term. So, as soon as Tony is alone, she fires a blast of her magic and turns Tony's head into chunky salsa\\

'''Instead:''' Rocket decides to steal some very valuable anulax batteries from the Sovereign, simply to get back at them for their snobbery, and because he felt like it. This after he called Drax out for siccing Ronan on the Guardians for the sake of his personal revenge in the last movie.\\
'''Result:''' Rocket's pointless idiocy does nothing but cause massive problems for him and his friends. The Sovereign are incredibly offended by the theft, and respond by sending ''an entire fleet'' after the Guardians. In the resultant chase, the Guardians crash land on a random planet. The Sovereign then hire Yondu and his Ravagers to go after the Guardians, and thanks to the busted ship, he manages to capture both Rocket and Groot. The only reason the other Guardians aren't captured is because they all left with Ego earlier. And while Yondu has no intentions of handing the Guardians over to the Sovereign, his reveal of this leads to a mutiny within his crew, in which Yondu is overthrown, his loyalists are all executed, and the new leadership has no intention of being nice towards the Guardians. And as a [[SarcasmMode bonus]], the Sovereign show up during the final battle and nearly screw things up for the Guardians and as a result of their attack, Peter's mask is damaged and Yondu has to sacrifice his life to save him when Ego is destroyed, not to mention contributing to the deaths of thousands when the Sovereign attack delays their destruction of Ego's brain, allowing the expansion to continue.

'''You'd Think:''' The Ravagers would have destroyed that crest, too.\\

'''You'd Expect:''' Peter would start patrolling worse neighborhoods in New York, which are many now thanks to the destruction caused by the Incident, where he can probably stop more serious, but still not very dangerous to him crimes and/or try to reach out to publicly known heroes like [Series/Daredevil2015 Matt Murdock]], [[Series/JessicaJones2015 Jessica Jones]] or [[Series/LukeCage2016 Luke Cage]], who have both tackled real supervillains like Kilgrave and huge crime syndicates like those of Wilson Fisk and Diamondback, despite having only a fraction of his power. That way, he'd be earning himself a reputation quickly, and could even prove himself to Tony by having his own sort of-Avengers team.[[note]]Admittedly this might not be doable if one assumes ''Homecoming'' takes place between ''Daredevil'' season 2 and ''The Defenders'', a period of time where Matt wasn't Daredeviling out of guilt over Elektra's death, and while Luke was imprisoned at Seagate prison in Georgia waiting for Foggy to get his conviction appealed and charges thrown out.[[/note]]\\

'''You'd Expect:''' That Pete wouldn't waste time listening and web up Adrian's other hand and his feet [[ShutUpHannibal (and maybe his mouth so he can shut up)]] and ''immediately'' call the police, pretty much defeating him right there.\\

** Prince N'Jobu has been sent to the United States to spy on the world. He realizes how many black people are suffering in the United States, and how the police and FBI crack down on their attempts at organized resistance and community building. His brother, King T'Chaka, and the Wakandan council would never agree because of the Wakandan policy to keep their technology and wealth a secret.\\

'''You'd Also Expect:''' That N'Jobu would choose a partner who doesn't have a personal grudge against Wakanda.\\

'''You'd Expect''': N'Jobu would have prepared paperwork to assign Erik a proper guardian, send him to his mother's family, or go to T'Chaka and demand that his brother legitimize Erik as a potential heir to the throne. As a spy, and as someone who has committed treason, he has to think of his child's well-being if the worst-case scenario happens.\\

'''The Result''': The US military recruits Erik, and he becomes scarily efficient at deposing governments, while obtaining a degree at MIT. This knowledge and experience, combined with Erik's drive for revenge, causes him to, as an adult nearly destroy Wakanda and twist what his father ultimately wanted. N'Jobu in the afterlife realizes this when Erik talks to him, in child and adult form. T'Challa, Erik's cousin, is ''beyond'' furious when he hears what his father and Zuri did and decides to end the Wakandan isolationism.

'''Instead:''' She joins Quill and the others to Knowhere, which puts her at risk at being kidnapped by Thanos, seemingly because she wanted to kill Thanos personally to atone for the crimes she committed as his daughter, and to avenge the abuse that she and Nebula suffered as children.\\

** Hope and Hank are on the run, and trying to save Janet from the quantum realm. They reluctantly recruit Scott, who is under house arrest, when he calls them and says [[spoiler:he had a dream that was Janet's memory]]. He's trying to help them discreetly so that the FBI agent supervising his house arrest won't bust him or arrest the Pyms. At one point Luis is calling him because they need to fix plans for an account they're hoping to land for their security firm. Scott promises to come help as soon as he helps the Pyms.\\

** After traveling back to [[spoiler:Morag in 2014, Nebula's memories get entangled with those of her 2014 counterpart, thus allowing that year's Thanos to discover that he'll succeed in his plan to wipe out half the population of the universe, but be killed by Thor afterwards]].\\

'''The Result:''' [[spoiler:Thanos catches up to and captures Nebula Prime, then has his timeline's version of Nebula return to 2023 in her place. She in turn opens up a time portal that allows Thanos to take ''Sanctuary II'' to 2023, where, upon the Avengers undoing his 2018 self's work, he launches a missile barrage that levels the Avengers base of operations]].

** "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S1E4InTheBlood In the Blood]]": In light of Matt Murdock's attacks on their gang, in particular Matt beating up a bunch of their men who were trying to beat his name out of Claire Temple, Anatoly Ranskahov decides to accept Wilson Fisk's offer of support.\\
'''You'd think:''' Anatoly to call James Wesley, and leave it to Wesley to set up a meeting so that the Russian gangsters can meet Fisk in person and solidify a partnership where they have funding from Fisk's resources and organization.\\
'''Instead:''' Anatoly decides to break the news to Fisk in person. He does so by rudely barging into Fisk's dinner with Vanessa to tell him that he accepts Fisk's offer.\\

'''You'd think:''' Matt would let Officer Sullivan know the situation, as the cops in his precinct are overwhelmingly corrupt. There's no way Sullivan doesn't know about the Russian goon that Detectives Blake and Hoffman murdered earlier that day at the precinct for saying Fisk's name, and Matt is trying to convince him to waive any hope of backup coming for him, a dangerous proposition given he's alone with the "Devil of Hell's Kitchen."\\
'''Additionally''': If he's not going to agree, you'd think Matt's LivingLieDetector abilities would let him know that Sullivan likely wouldn't cooperate.\\

'''You'd think:''' Wesley would restrain Karen in any way, as even if he has a gun, if she runs, it's less convenient if he shoots her in the back. Or at the very least, that he might take a couple of henchmen with him.\\

** Frank Castle goes to a pawnshop in "[[Recap/Daredevil2015S2E2DogsToAGunfight Dogs To A Gunfight]]" to buy a police scanner. At his request, the pawnbroker leaves himself completely vulnerable, selling Castle the shells from his shotgun, and disconnecting the video camera (and giving the tape to Castle). Considering the incredibly illegal sale he's just conducted (of stolen police equipment), this is already pretty dumb.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That the owner would now just let Castle go.\\
'''Instead:''' As Castle is walking out, the owner tries to upsell him, offering [=DVDs=] of increasingly extreme porn, culminating in child pornography. Which is dumb in two ways: 1) Castle has demonstrated literally nothing to indicate that he's interested in buying anything else from the man, certainly not extreme BDSM porn, and ''definitely'' not child pornography. All he's demonstrated is that he's a professional criminal. 2) [[EvenEvilHasStandards Many criminals despise child molesters and child pornography in general.]] So if the buyer was the average criminal, this probably wouldn't end well for the seller. But this is The Punisher.\\
'''End Result:''' The seller is so dense that even as Castle turns around and flips the sign in the door to "CLOSED" to prevent any witnesses from walking in, he still thinks he's making a sale, not about to get beaten to death with a baseball bat.

** "[[Recap/ThePunisher2017S01E08ColdSteel Cold Steel]]": After most of Dinah and Sam's backup have just been taken out by Billy Russo's men, Sam Stein manages to corner Russo at gunpoint.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Sam wait for backup to arrive before trying to approach Russo. Given that Russo had just shot another SWAT officer literally seconds before Sam drew on him, doing so would guarantee that Russo wouldn't be able to make a sudden move on him.\\
'''Instead:''' Being overly arrogant and emotions running high, Sam walks up to Russo and gets close enough to rip off Russo's ski mask. Which gives Russo the opening to pull out a retractable knife and stab Sam to death.

** Bruce Banner is on the run. That's because he experimented with gamma radiation in an effort to recreate the Captain America formula. The commanding officer in charge of Banner's project, General Ross, wants to contain him as a weapon and to exploit his potential.\\

** Steve receives a top-secret flash drive from Nick Fury after he is shot by the Winter Soldier. The flash drive contains S.H.I.E.L.D. secrets of the highest priority, and Steve is advised to not trust anybody. Shortly thereafter, at the hospital, after Nick is presumed dead, he's told to report to a meeting and doesn't want to have whoever's there finding the drive. Looking around, he spots a vending machine that's currently open to be filled with snacks.\\

'''You'd Expect:''' Since Steve does not like to keep secrets, he calls for Tony and calmly explain to him what truly happened to his parents. If Tony demands to know the exact circumstances of their deaths, he would simply head over to a HYDRA facility and examine the culprit of his parent's killer.\\

** After their successful mutiny and takeover of Yondu's ship, the Ravagers lock him and Rocket together in the brig. Yondu's crest is damaged, so he can't use his arrow against the mutineers. However, he does still have a prototype crest in his quarters as a backup. The Ravagers not only know about the crest, but also know exactly where Yondu keeps it.\\

'''Result:''' To their credit, Taserface does raise the alarm immediately upon waking up and finding it missing. Unfortunately, the crest has already been installed on Yondu's head by that point, and "Come A Little Bit Closer" has started to play over the ship's PA system...

'''The Result''': In ''Infinity War'', [[spoiler:Thanos reveals that he has taken Nebula hostage after she sneaked onto his ship in a bid to assassinate him. He tortures Nebula in front of a captive Gamora, to get Gamora to reveal the location of the Soul Stone. Gamora, who feels guilty that she didn't protect Nebula from the forced cybernetic upgrades when they were children, can't bear to see her sister ripped limb from limb and leads Thanos to the right location. It ultimately means that Gamora dies instead of Nebula, who when she finds out has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone expression. In addition, because Gamora dies, Thanos gets the Soul Stone, which allows him to perform The Snap]].

** The beginning of the movie reveals that Tony recruited Spider-Man to help with a "crazy" Captain America. After the mission, and Peter's been badly concussed, Tony tells Peter to call Happy as a liaison guy. Happy is less than amused since Peter took an embarrassing video of him and he has to move Avengers headquarters upstate.\\

'''Instead''': Tony and Happy leave Peter in the lurch, neither returning his calls or texts for two months. Happy refuses to listen when Peter reports the high-tech bank robbery. Tony appears via a remote suit when the Vulture nearly drowns Peter, and pretty much shuts him out of the strange case. Peter is understandably annoyed that both men are treating him like a kid; while he is one, he is also more than capable. When he realizes that Peter disabled the suit's tracking device and is going after the Vulture alone at Staten Ferry, where the FBI are waiting, Peter hangs up on him while preparing to attack. Spider-Man and everyone on the ferry nearly die from the ensuing fight. In the call, Tony ''says'' he's worried he's becoming like his late, distant father, and he wants to do better, but it's already too late. All he can do is show up and mitigate the disaster.

'''You'd Expect:''' Peter would start patrolling worse neighborhoods in New York, which are many now thanks to the destruction caused by the Incident, where he can probably stop more serious, but still not very dangerous to him crimes and/or try to reach out to publicly known heroes like Matt Murdock and Luke Cage, who have both tackled real supervillains and huge crime syndicates like those of Wilson Fisk and Diamondback, despite having only a fraction of his power. That way, he'd be earning himself a rep quickly, and could even prove himself to Tony by having his own sort of-Avengers team.[[note]]Admittedly this might not be doable if one assumes ''Homecoming'' takes place between ''Daredevil'' season 2 and ''The Defenders'', a period of time where Matt wasn't Daredeviling out of guilt over Elektra's death, and while Luke was imprisoned at Seagate prison in Georgia waiting for Foggy to get his conviction appealed and charges thrown out.[[/note]]\\

'''As a result:''' Kilgrave does use MindControl on Wendy.....to order her to kill Jeri through DeathByAThousandCuts. Jeri nearly bleeds to death, and her mistress Pam shows up in the nick of time to kill Wendy. Jeri regrets her choice since Pam is disgusted by her actions and gets thrown in jail.