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She was picked up by the Pinkertons, and told them as much as she could, but her status as the resident mooch meant she didn't know anything and was useless as an informant. So they had to go with Micah next.
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She was picked up by the Pinkertons, and told them as much as she could, but her status as the resident mooch meant she didn't know anything and was useless as an informant. So they had to go with Micah next.next.
[[WMG: Nobody told the Pinkertons the gang was hiding in Lacay.]]
They found the letter to Dear Uncle Tacitus and put two and two together. They only waited for Dutch to show up to encroach.
[[WMG: Nobody told the Pinkertons the gang was hiding in Lacay.]]
They found the letter to Dear Uncle Tacitus and put two and two together. They only waited for Dutch to show up to encroach.
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I say he did. And that Englishman was Gavin.
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I say he did. And that Englishman was Gavin.Gavin.
[[WMG: Molly thought she was the mole.]]
She was picked up by the Pinkertons, and told them as much as she could, but her status as the resident mooch meant she didn't know anything and was useless as an informant. So they had to go with Micah next.
[[WMG: Molly thought she was the mole.]]
She was picked up by the Pinkertons, and told them as much as she could, but her status as the resident mooch meant she didn't know anything and was useless as an informant. So they had to go with Micah next.
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Maybe Uncle and John both think that he caused it? Would explain why the relationship is more strained.
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Maybe Uncle and John both think that he caused it? Would explain why the relationship is more strained.strained.
[[WMG: Sean killed Gavin.]]
Sean Killed Gavin. Hear me out.
One of the few things we know about Gavin is that he has an English accent.
In one campfire talk, Sean can claim to have killed someone with an English accent just to not have to hear it anymore. There's a lengthy pause before he insists that he's joking, and he *loves* the English. But Sean's a pretty unreliable narrator, so it's up for debate whether he did or not.
I say he did. And that Englishman was Gavin.
[[WMG: Sean killed Gavin.]]
Sean Killed Gavin. Hear me out.
One of the few things we know about Gavin is that he has an English accent.
In one campfire talk, Sean can claim to have killed someone with an English accent just to not have to hear it anymore. There's a lengthy pause before he insists that he's joking, and he *loves* the English. But Sean's a pretty unreliable narrator, so it's up for debate whether he did or not.
I say he did. And that Englishman was Gavin.
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** [spoiler: Arthur actually brought this up after Molly's death; Dutch's desire for chaos and mayhem is what draws in the authorities, not a traitor. It is entirely possible that Milton got an inkling to the gang's infighting from interrogating Strauss; Strauss might not have told them anything but that doesn't mean Milton did not pick up on anything. Strauss was kicked out for a reason after all. He figured one more push and the gang would be finished, so he lied to Arthur about turning Micah so as to cause the gang to implode right as his men struck their camp, and it ''worked''.]]
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** [spoiler: [[spoiler: Arthur actually brought this up after Molly's death; Dutch's desire for the constant chaos and mayhem is what draws in the authorities, not a traitor. It gang caused everywhere they went made them predictable and Milton and Ross guessed where their next score would be. To add to that, it is entirely possible that Milton got an inkling to the gang's infighting waning faith in Dutch and possible base camp from interrogating Strauss; Charles claims that Strauss might did not have told tell them anything but that doesn't mean Milton did could not pick have picked up on anything. Strauss was kicked out for a reason after all. He all and he could only have been found in or around Roanoke Ridge, so the Pinkertons would have known the gang's general location. Milton probably figured one more push and the gang would be finished, so he lied to Arthur about turning Micah so as to cause the gang to implode right as his men struck their camp, camp. The problem was the operation ended up only being a partial success due to the majority of the gang escaping and it ''worked''.Milton getting killed by Abigail. Even though the rest of the old gang, including Dutch, would cause further trouble down the line, the Van Der Linde Gang was for all intents and purposes dissolved, and after the chaos of the last few months that was good enough for the time being.]]
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** [spoiler: Arthur actually brought this up after Molly's death; Dutch's desire for chaos and mayhem is what draws in the authorities, not a traitor. It is entirely possible that Milton got an inkling to the gang's infighting from interrogating Strauss; Strauss might not have told them anything but that doesn't mean Milton did not pick up on anything. Strauss was kicked out for a reason after all. He figured one more push and the gang would be finished, so he lied to Arthur about turning Micah so as to cause the gang to implode right as his men struck their camp, and it ''worked''.]]
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Maybe Uncle and John both think that he caused it? Would explain why the relationship is more strained.
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[[WMG: The Lemoyne Raider who committed suicide at Shady Belle haunted Dutch]]
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[[WMG: The Lemoyne Raider who committed suicide at Shady Belle haunted Dutch]]
Dutch and drove him mad]]
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Possibly as her brother, uncle or cousin. His vendetta against the Van der Linde gang was personal and drove him to extremes to destroy them.
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Possibly as her brother, uncle uncle, cousin or cousin.fiancé. His vendetta against the Van der Linde gang was personal and drove him to extremes to destroy them.
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[[WMG: Sadie was captured by the FBI, forced to hunt Bill, Javier or Dutch and failed miserably]]
Promised her freedom and the freedom of the Marstons, she tried the “Bill, you son of a bitch! Get down here or-(shot dead)” method of negotiation.
* Alternatively, she may have been caught by the FBI, but killed herself to avoid being interrogated.
Promised her freedom and the freedom of the Marstons, she tried the “Bill, you son of a bitch! Get down here or-(shot dead)” method of negotiation.
* Alternatively, she may have been caught by the FBI, but killed herself to avoid being interrogated.
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[[WMG: Sadie was captured by the FBI, forced to hunt Bill, Javier or and Dutch and failed miserably]]
Promised The FBI promised her freedom and the freedom of the Marstons, Marstons amnesty if she helped them. When she found Bill, she tried the “Bill, you son of a bitch! Get down here or-(shot dead)” or-(BLAM!)” method of negotiation.
negotiation and got her brains blown over the dirt road.
* Alternatively, shemay have been was caught by the FBI, but killed herself in custody to avoid being interrogated.
used against the Marstons. Or was tortured to death in custody.
* Alternatively, she
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Before the writers realised Bill was too stupid.
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Before the writers realised Bill was too stupid.
stupid to be a convincing or engaging traitor.
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He was originally described as a creep who would've sold out the gang if it benefitted them, a character description given to Micah in 2, it was likely that R* reworked it due to it being predictable to those who played the first game
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He was originally described as a creep who would've sold out the gang if it benefitted them, a character description given to Micah in 2, it was likely that R* reworked it due to it being predictable to those who played the first game
game.
* Or because making the only Latino gang member a sleazy unwelcome traitor and spy doesn't reflect well with current politics.
* Or because making the only Latino gang member a sleazy unwelcome traitor and spy doesn't reflect well with current politics.
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[[WMG: Alternatively, Javier was originally written with Micah's role]]
He was originally described as a creep who would've sold out the gang if it benefitted them, a character description given to Micah in 2, it was likely that R* reworked it due to it being predictable to those who played the first game
He was originally described as a creep who would've sold out the gang if it benefitted them, a character description given to Micah in 2, it was likely that R* reworked it due to it being predictable to those who played the first game
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[[WMG: Jamie isn't Mary's brother; he's her and Arthur's son]]
[[https://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/9tnybb/red_dead_redemption_2_arthur_mary_linton_and_jamie/ Link here]].
[[https://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/9tnybb/red_dead_redemption_2_arthur_mary_linton_and_jamie/ Link here]].
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Before the writers realised Bill was too stupid.
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Even before Jake’s death she was aggressive and untrustworthy, as though she was used to being beaten on in the pas.
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Even before Jake’s death she was aggressive and untrustworthy, as though she was used to being beaten on in the pas.
past.
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She certainly can’t afford him and it’s unlikely such a fine horse
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She certainly can’t afford him and it’s unlikely such a fine horse
horse was just rode through a hayseed town like Rhodes.
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She takes to the outlaw life like a duck to water and she’s highly aggressive and violent. She’s introduced carrying a rifle. She may have run with some outlaws before she settled down with Jake. O’Driscolls didn’t know what Hell they unleashed.
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She takes to the outlaw life like a duck to water and water, she’s highly aggressive and violent. She’s violent and is chronologically introduced carrying a rifle.rifle and threatening. She may have run with some outlaws before she settled down with Jake. O’Driscolls didn’t know what Hell they unleashed.
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Even before Jake’s death she was aggressive and untrustworthy.
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Even before Jake’s death she was aggressive and untrustworthy.
untrustworthy, as though she was used to being beaten on in the pas.
