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The Seal Of Solomon in the Pactverse is presumably related to the one from the Testament Of Solomon, in which Solomon recieves a ring from Micheal which allows him to bind the demon Ornias, then send him to bind Beelzebub and have him bind a lot of other demons. This is presumably at least partially accurate in the Pactverse, since Ornias definitely exists.
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The Seal Of Solomon in the Pactverse is presumably related to the one from the Testament Of Solomon, in which Solomon recieves receives a ring from Micheal which allows him to bind the demon Ornias, then send him to bind Beelzebub and have him bind a lot of other demons. This is presumably at least partially accurate in the Pactverse, since Ornias definitely exists.
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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Once the last of Blake appears to be snuffed out, the next (and final) chapter switches to the 3rd-person pov of an unawakened biker named Dominic, whose life Blake saved while on a trip to Wisconsin to fulfill his promise to Zoey. He is now a sparrow who helps keep people away from Jacob's Bell with the help of Evan, still a sparrow, and Green Eyes, still a mermaid. ]]
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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Once the last of Blake appears to be snuffed out, the next (and final) chapter switches to the 3rd-person pov of an unawakened biker named Dominic, whose life Blake saved while on a trip to Wisconsin to fulfill his promise to Zoey. He is now a sparrow who helps keep people away from Jacob's Bell with the help of Evan, still a sparrow, and Green Eyes, still a mermaid. ]]]]
[[WMG: Blake + Rose + Entropy = Clovis Blackthorne.]]
When busy trying to come up with what to call who they probably were, Blake and Rose miss a simple bit of addition. "Blake" means "black". "Rose" is obvious. And, black roses are cloves. It's as twistily oblique as "Ivy" is, but calling a son "Clovis" in a bid to suck up by pun is more than doable. And, both pointedly not managing to have that penny drop is one thing the guy would be happy about: never say the Barber can't lose for you something you've always hated while it mangles you.
[[WMG: Blake + Rose + Entropy = Clovis Blackthorne.]]
When busy trying to come up with what to call who they probably were, Blake and Rose miss a simple bit of addition. "Blake" means "black". "Rose" is obvious. And, black roses are cloves. It's as twistily oblique as "Ivy" is, but calling a son "Clovis" in a bid to suck up by pun is more than doable. And, both pointedly not managing to have that penny drop is one thing the guy would be happy about: never say the Barber can't lose for you something you've always hated while it mangles you.
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When the last of Blake is finally snuffed out, or is close enough to it, Rose will become the de facto protagonist with as many shades of Blake as could be managed. Bonus points if her first thoughts after the shift detail her sensing that Blake is fading to nothing(similarly to Isadora back when he was first hit by the abstract demon).
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When the last of Blake is finally snuffed out, or is close enough to it, Rose will become the de facto protagonist with as many shades of Blake as could be managed. Bonus points if her first thoughts after the shift detail her sensing that Blake is fading to nothing(similarly to Isadora back when he was first hit by the abstract demon).demon).
*[[spoiler: Jossed. Once the last of Blake appears to be snuffed out, the next (and final) chapter switches to the 3rd-person pov of an unawakened biker named Dominic, whose life Blake saved while on a trip to Wisconsin to fulfill his promise to Zoey. He is now a sparrow who helps keep people away from Jacob's Bell with the help of Evan, still a sparrow, and Green Eyes, still a mermaid. ]]
*[[spoiler: Jossed. Once the last of Blake appears to be snuffed out, the next (and final) chapter switches to the 3rd-person pov of an unawakened biker named Dominic, whose life Blake saved while on a trip to Wisconsin to fulfill his promise to Zoey. He is now a sparrow who helps keep people away from Jacob's Bell with the help of Evan, still a sparrow, and Green Eyes, still a mermaid. ]]
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Once he has done that he will no longer have such a strong self preservation instinct and will decide it's finally time to end, and will spend his remaining half life to decide which memories and aspects of himself will help Rose the most and funneling them into her as fast as possible.
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Once he has done that he will no longer have such a strong self preservation instinct and will decide it's finally time to end, and will spend his remaining half life to decide which memories and aspects of himself will help Rose the most and funneling them into her as fast as possible.possible.
When the last of Blake is finally snuffed out, or is close enough to it, Rose will become the de facto protagonist with as many shades of Blake as could be managed. Bonus points if her first thoughts after the shift detail her sensing that Blake is fading to nothing(similarly to Isadora back when he was first hit by the abstract demon).
When the last of Blake is finally snuffed out, or is close enough to it, Rose will become the de facto protagonist with as many shades of Blake as could be managed. Bonus points if her first thoughts after the shift detail her sensing that Blake is fading to nothing(similarly to Isadora back when he was first hit by the abstract demon).
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Murr has powers that as a side effect destroy connections and Surbas devours things and gets bigger, both are probably imps from the choir of darkness, one of Erasurr's motes was described as smooth and bald which would fit Murr's skull like description
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Murr has powers that as a side effect destroy connections and Surbas devours things and gets bigger, both are probably imps from the choir of darkness, one of Erasurr's motes was described as smooth and bald which would fit Murr's skull like descriptiondescription
[[WMG: The next few chapters are going to slowly transition to Rose's first person pov]]
Judgement has so far been told from Rose's pov, with Blake only being mentioned a few times to establish that he's still in there.
My prediction is he's going to decide that Rose needs his "scrapper" instincts more than him now that shit has once again hit the fan and will give it up to her.
Once he has done that he will no longer have such a strong self preservation instinct and will decide it's finally time to end, and will spend his remaining half life to decide which memories and aspects of himself will help Rose the most and funneling them into her as fast as possible.
[[WMG: The next few chapters are going to slowly transition to Rose's first person pov]]
Judgement has so far been told from Rose's pov, with Blake only being mentioned a few times to establish that he's still in there.
My prediction is he's going to decide that Rose needs his "scrapper" instincts more than him now that shit has once again hit the fan and will give it up to her.
Once he has done that he will no longer have such a strong self preservation instinct and will decide it's finally time to end, and will spend his remaining half life to decide which memories and aspects of himself will help Rose the most and funneling them into her as fast as possible.
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[[WMG: Murr and/or Surbas are motes from Erasurr]]
Murr has powers that as a side effect destroy connections and Surbas devours things and gets bigger, both are probably imps from the choir of darkness, one of Erasurr's motes was described as smooth and bald which would fit Murr's skull like description
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* [[spoiler: {{Confirmed}}. Blake jumps into Rose's body, at her invitation, in order to escape the Abyss the third time. ]]
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Maybe blackfish is a representation of Urr that she doesn't recognize, but still fears due to seeing it consume her family(?)
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Maybe blackfish is a representation of Urr that she doesn't recognize, but still fears due to seeing it consume her family(?)family(?)
[[WMG: We haven't seen the last of Rosalyn senior.]]
We know that due to terrible karma and predisposed to having terrible morals/personality that the Thorburns are pretty much hellbound, doubly so if they take on the family practice of Diabolism.
That being said a practitioner as resourceful and clever as Rose senior would likely find a way to stay out of the worst the afterlife has to offer, I have a feeling that before the pact universe is put to rest we'll see more of her.
[[WMG: We haven't seen the last of Rosalyn senior.]]
We know that due to terrible karma and predisposed to having terrible morals/personality that the Thorburns are pretty much hellbound, doubly so if they take on the family practice of Diabolism.
That being said a practitioner as resourceful and clever as Rose senior would likely find a way to stay out of the worst the afterlife has to offer, I have a feeling that before the pact universe is put to rest we'll see more of her.
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It's practically tradition for a LiteralSplitPersonality. Neither of them will ''want'' to do it, of course, since it's essentially both of them committing suicide to create a new person, and they both value their individual existences so much, but they know that unless they do it they will tear their loved ones apart in their struggle for dominance. Blake's POV will end with this, his final death, and the last interlude will be about this new character and how they deal with the strange few months in which they were two people.
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It's practically tradition for a LiteralSplitPersonality. Neither of them will ''want'' to do it, of course, since it's essentially both of them committing suicide to create a new person, and they both value their individual existences so much, but they know that unless they do it they will tear their loved ones apart in their struggle for dominance. Blake's POV will end with this, his final death, and the last interlude will be about this new character and how they deal with the strange few months in which they were two people.people.
[[WMG: Green eyes was Marcie.]]
Aka the girl who was part of/associated with the knights of the basement until their encounter with the abstract demon. Not eaten herself, but when she vanished and the memories of her faded it was assumed that enough of her ties to the world were eaten(e.g parents) that she simply fell through “To wherever people go when they fall through the cracks in this world."
It has been assumed of green eyes past that she was a practitioner, with no recollection of how she actually got into the drains.
Maybe blackfish is a representation of Urr that she doesn't recognize, but still fears due to seeing it consume her family(?)
[[WMG: Green eyes was Marcie.]]
Aka the girl who was part of/associated with the knights of the basement until their encounter with the abstract demon. Not eaten herself, but when she vanished and the memories of her faded it was assumed that enough of her ties to the world were eaten(e.g parents) that she simply fell through “To wherever people go when they fall through the cracks in this world."
It has been assumed of green eyes past that she was a practitioner, with no recollection of how she actually got into the drains.
Maybe blackfish is a representation of Urr that she doesn't recognize, but still fears due to seeing it consume her family(?)
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Only angels who weren't part of the guard force are reliably available. Hence why Faysal says the angels are unorganized and apparently not overwhelmingly numerous despite being associated with order and creation; there are a lot of organized angels but he hasn't met them because they're either on guard duty or on standby.
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Only angels who weren't part of the guard force are reliably available. Hence why Faysal says the angels are unorganized and apparently not overwhelmingly numerous despite being associated with order and creation; there are a lot of organized angels but he hasn't met them because they're either on guard duty or on standby.standby.
[[WMG: Blake and Rose will escape their inevitable fate by doing a FusionDance.]]
It's practically tradition for a LiteralSplitPersonality. Neither of them will ''want'' to do it, of course, since it's essentially both of them committing suicide to create a new person, and they both value their individual existences so much, but they know that unless they do it they will tear their loved ones apart in their struggle for dominance. Blake's POV will end with this, his final death, and the last interlude will be about this new character and how they deal with the strange few months in which they were two people.
[[WMG: Blake and Rose will escape their inevitable fate by doing a FusionDance.]]
It's practically tradition for a LiteralSplitPersonality. Neither of them will ''want'' to do it, of course, since it's essentially both of them committing suicide to create a new person, and they both value their individual existences so much, but they know that unless they do it they will tear their loved ones apart in their struggle for dominance. Blake's POV will end with this, his final death, and the last interlude will be about this new character and how they deal with the strange few months in which they were two people.
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The Seal Of Solomon in the Pactverse is presumably related to the one from the Testament Of Solomon, in which Solomon recieves a ring from Micheal which allows him to bind the demon Ornias, then send him to bind Beelzebub and have him bind a lot of other demons. This is presumably at least partially accurate in the Pactverse, since Ornias definitely exists.
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This also would explain why angels are rarely summoned; most of them are on guard duty. The strongest angel of the Third Choir could show up in Jacob's Bell and beat up The Barber if he were let out, but that would mean risking a breakout by the strongest Choir Of Ruin member. And equal-rank angels can't beat demons in a fight when the demons aren't imprisoned, so they can't hunt down their opposites unassisted, but they need to be ready to lock them back up and so aren't available for tasks other than sealing them. Furthermore, it's quite possible that Solomon didn't see the need to Seal angels (Or, since Micheal provided him with the ring, the Seal might not <i>work</i> on angels), and thus aren't forced to respond to summons. So it's possible anyone can easily summon Uriel at will without any price whatsoever. But he's busy keeping the head demon of the Choir Of Sin from influencing the entire world, so he'll only actually show up for a really serious emergency.
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This also would explain why angels are rarely summoned; most of them are on guard duty. The strongest angel of the Third Choir could show up in Jacob's Bell and beat up The Barber if he were let out, but that would mean risking a breakout by the strongest Choir Of Ruin member. And equal-rank angels can't beat demons in a fight when the demons aren't imprisoned, so they can't hunt down their opposites unassisted, but they need to be ready to lock them back up and so aren't available for tasks other than sealing them. Furthermore, it's quite possible that Solomon didn't see the need to Seal angels (Or, since Micheal provided him with the ring, the Seal might not <i>work</i> ''work'' on angels), and thus aren't forced to respond to summons. So it's possible anyone can easily summon Uriel at will without any price whatsoever. But he's busy keeping the head demon of the Choir Of Sin from influencing the entire world, so he'll only actually show up for a really serious emergency.
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He will eventually grow the wings he had seen, and will at some stage be in the abyss with green eyes once again(possibly in a relationship.)
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He will eventually grow the wings he had seen, and will at some stage be in the abyss with green eyes once again(possibly in a relationship.))
[[WMG: The Seal Of Solomon and Diabolist bad karma]]
The Seal is an anti-demon system and it works great at keeping them in check. Except there's one flaw: its restrictions on harming humans aren't quite perfect, but it's very good at forcing obediance. As such, it makes it possible to summon demons and command them, and they're such bundles of bad news that always turns out poorly.
So Solomon and his angelic buddies came up with a plan: they'd seal all the demons and then give them commands that stopped them from causing harm. Since demons radiate badness and so are very dangerous even when bound, the angels set to work countering their opposite numbers; they're weaker in a direct confrontation but the demons were restricted by the bindings. And so the problem was solved--for a time.
But, if you summon a demon, for any reason or any purpose, it's out of the lockdown. Furthermore, the new summoner, lacking the original angel-forged Seal ring, probably won't be able to compel absolute obedience and lock the demon into a similarly-restrictive binding. They're likely to do a lot of damage before getting locked back up. So there's a hefty karma penalty for summoning one, but probably not for binding one that's already present. The seeming double standard with other nasties is because when you summon a demon you're breaking it out of jail.
This also would explain why angels are rarely summoned; most of them are on guard duty. The strongest angel of the Third Choir could show up in Jacob's Bell and beat up The Barber if he were let out, but that would mean risking a breakout by the strongest Choir Of Ruin member. And equal-rank angels can't beat demons in a fight when the demons aren't imprisoned, so they can't hunt down their opposites unassisted, but they need to be ready to lock them back up and so aren't available for tasks other than sealing them. Furthermore, it's quite possible that Solomon didn't see the need to Seal angels (Or, since Micheal provided him with the ring, the Seal might not <i>work</i> on angels), and thus aren't forced to respond to summons. So it's possible anyone can easily summon Uriel at will without any price whatsoever. But he's busy keeping the head demon of the Choir Of Sin from influencing the entire world, so he'll only actually show up for a really serious emergency.
Only angels who weren't part of the guard force are reliably available. Hence why Faysal says the angels are unorganized and apparently not overwhelmingly numerous despite being associated with order and creation; there are a lot of organized angels but he hasn't met them because they're either on guard duty or on standby.
[[WMG: The Seal Of Solomon and Diabolist bad karma]]
The Seal is an anti-demon system and it works great at keeping them in check. Except there's one flaw: its restrictions on harming humans aren't quite perfect, but it's very good at forcing obediance. As such, it makes it possible to summon demons and command them, and they're such bundles of bad news that always turns out poorly.
So Solomon and his angelic buddies came up with a plan: they'd seal all the demons and then give them commands that stopped them from causing harm. Since demons radiate badness and so are very dangerous even when bound, the angels set to work countering their opposite numbers; they're weaker in a direct confrontation but the demons were restricted by the bindings. And so the problem was solved--for a time.
But, if you summon a demon, for any reason or any purpose, it's out of the lockdown. Furthermore, the new summoner, lacking the original angel-forged Seal ring, probably won't be able to compel absolute obedience and lock the demon into a similarly-restrictive binding. They're likely to do a lot of damage before getting locked back up. So there's a hefty karma penalty for summoning one, but probably not for binding one that's already present. The seeming double standard with other nasties is because when you summon a demon you're breaking it out of jail.
This also would explain why angels are rarely summoned; most of them are on guard duty. The strongest angel of the Third Choir could show up in Jacob's Bell and beat up The Barber if he were let out, but that would mean risking a breakout by the strongest Choir Of Ruin member. And equal-rank angels can't beat demons in a fight when the demons aren't imprisoned, so they can't hunt down their opposites unassisted, but they need to be ready to lock them back up and so aren't available for tasks other than sealing them. Furthermore, it's quite possible that Solomon didn't see the need to Seal angels (Or, since Micheal provided him with the ring, the Seal might not <i>work</i> on angels), and thus aren't forced to respond to summons. So it's possible anyone can easily summon Uriel at will without any price whatsoever. But he's busy keeping the head demon of the Choir Of Sin from influencing the entire world, so he'll only actually show up for a really serious emergency.
Only angels who weren't part of the guard force are reliably available. Hence why Faysal says the angels are unorganized and apparently not overwhelmingly numerous despite being associated with order and creation; there are a lot of organized angels but he hasn't met them because they're either on guard duty or on standby.
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** Only to be [[spoiler:semi-jossed again later. Rose is the larger, dominant part, but both are split off from another original. One who was probably male]]
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[[WMG:Blake will become Peter's familiar and be an important character in the sequel.]]
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[[WMG:Blake will become Peter's familiar and familiar,and both will be an important character characters in the sequel.]]
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He was also surprisingly personable(for a Thorburn) and seemed to genuinely care about protecting his family members. These things might drive him to seek out and convince Blake to become his familiar once he awakens.
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He was also surprisingly personable(for a Thorburn) and seemed to genuinely care about protecting his family members. These things might drive him to seek out and convince Blake to become his familiar once he awakens.awakens.
[[WMG:The dream/vision of the future Blake had in the drains will come to pass.]]
He will eventually grow the wings he had seen, and will at some stage be in the abyss with green eyes once again(possibly in a relationship.)
[[WMG:The dream/vision of the future Blake had in the drains will come to pass.]]
He will eventually grow the wings he had seen, and will at some stage be in the abyss with green eyes once again(possibly in a relationship.)
