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*** I think you could be on to something here. In episode [=S03E02=] of ''The Inbetweeners'', Simon appears to be wearing Kingsley's [[NiceHat hat]]

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*** I think you could be on to something here. In episode [=S03E02=] of ''The Inbetweeners'', Simon appears to be wearing Kingsley's [[NiceHat hat]]hat
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*** In Series 1 he tells Josie that he never got the chance to lose his virginity because of his mum. In TheInbetweeners, Simon's parent's insist on him keeping the door of his room open when he has girls over.

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*** In Series 1 he tells Josie that he never got the chance to lose his virginity because of his mum. In TheInbetweeners, ''Series/TheInbetweeners'', Simon's parent's insist on him keeping the door of his room open when he has girls over.
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[[WMG: Fresh Meat is a distant finale to [[PeepShow Peep Show]].]]

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[[WMG: Fresh Meat is a distant finale to [[PeepShow Peep Show]].''Series/PeepShow''.]]
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** A few of problems with this theory. Firstly, Kingsley says he's been taking care of his sick mom for five years, but in Fresh Meat Simon's mom is fine. Second, in ''The Inbetweeners Movie'' it's heavily implied Simon has had sex with [[spoiler:Carly]], since they've been in a relationship for months. And by the end of the movie [[spoiler:he's together with Lucy]]. But in Fresh Meat Kingsley confesses, to his embarrassment, that he's still a virgin. Why would he lie about something like that? Thirdly, in the movie Simon says he's gonna study sociology, but Kingsley is majoring in in geology. Finally, the teachers at the university also call Kingsley "Kingsley". Unless Simon was so ashamed of his past that he legally changed his name (even though he was going to a uni in a completely different area, where no one would know who he is), wouldn't the teachers know his real name and use that?

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** A few of problems with this theory. Firstly, Kingsley says he's been taking care of his sick mom for five years, but in Fresh Meat The Inbetweeners Simon's mom is fine. Second, Secondly, in ''The Inbetweeners Movie'' it's heavily implied Simon has had sex with [[spoiler:Carly]], since they've been in a relationship for months. And by the end of the movie [[spoiler:he's together with Lucy]]. But in Fresh Meat Kingsley confesses, to his embarrassment, that he's still a virgin. Why would he lie about something like that? Thirdly, in the movie Simon says he's gonna study sociology, but Kingsley is majoring in in geology. Finally, the teachers at the university also call Kingsley "Kingsley". Unless Simon was so ashamed of his past that he legally changed his name (even though he was going to a uni in a completely different area, where no one would know who he is), wouldn't the teachers know his real name and use that?
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** A few of problems with this theory. Firstly, Kingsley says he's been taking care of his sick mom for five years, but in Fresh Meat Simon's mom is fine. Second, in ''The Inbetweeners Movie'' it's heavily implied Simon has had sex with [[spoiler:Carly]], since they've been in a relationship for months. And by the end of the movie [[spoiler:he's together with Lucy]]. But in Fresh Meat Kingsley confesses, to his embarrassment, that he's still a virgin. Why would he lie about something like that? Finally, the teachers at the university also call Kingsley "Kingsley". Unless Simon was so ashamed of his past that he legally changed his name (even though he was going to a uni in a completely different area, where no one would know who he is), wouldn't the teachers know his real name and use that?

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** A few of problems with this theory. Firstly, Kingsley says he's been taking care of his sick mom for five years, but in Fresh Meat Simon's mom is fine. Second, in ''The Inbetweeners Movie'' it's heavily implied Simon has had sex with [[spoiler:Carly]], since they've been in a relationship for months. And by the end of the movie [[spoiler:he's together with Lucy]]. But in Fresh Meat Kingsley confesses, to his embarrassment, that he's still a virgin. Why would he lie about something like that? Thirdly, in the movie Simon says he's gonna study sociology, but Kingsley is majoring in in geology. Finally, the teachers at the university also call Kingsley "Kingsley". Unless Simon was so ashamed of his past that he legally changed his name (even though he was going to a uni in a completely different area, where no one would know who he is), wouldn't the teachers know his real name and use that?
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** A few of problems with this theory. Firstly, Kingsley says he's been taking care of his sick mom for five years, but in Fresh Meat Simon's mom is fine. Second, in ''The Inbetweeners Movie'' it's heavily implied Simon has had sex with [[spoiler:Carly]], since they've been in a relationship for months. And by the end of the movie [[spoiler:he's together with Lucy]]. But in Fresh Meat Kingsley confesses, to his embarrassment, that he's still a virgin. Why would he lie about something like that? Finally, the teachers at the university also call Kingsley "Kingsley". Unless Simon was so ashamed of his past that he legally changed his name (even though he was going to the uni in a completely different area, where no one would know who he is), wouldn't the teachers know his real name and use that?

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** A few of problems with this theory. Firstly, Kingsley says he's been taking care of his sick mom for five years, but in Fresh Meat Simon's mom is fine. Second, in ''The Inbetweeners Movie'' it's heavily implied Simon has had sex with [[spoiler:Carly]], since they've been in a relationship for months. And by the end of the movie [[spoiler:he's together with Lucy]]. But in Fresh Meat Kingsley confesses, to his embarrassment, that he's still a virgin. Why would he lie about something like that? Finally, the teachers at the university also call Kingsley "Kingsley". Unless Simon was so ashamed of his past that he legally changed his name (even though he was going to the a uni in a completely different area, where no one would know who he is), wouldn't the teachers know his real name and use that?

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B) The timeline fits. In the summer of 2011, the Inbetweeners movie is released, showing the gang on holiday the summer just before they go to university. ''Series/FreshMeat'' started airing in the autumn of 2011, when Simon would have been going University.

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B) The timeline fits. In the summer of 2011, the Inbetweeners movie ''Film/TheInbetweenersMovie'' is released, showing the gang on holiday the summer just before they go to university. ''Series/FreshMeat'' started airing in the autumn of 2011, when Simon would have been going University.


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** A few of problems with this theory. Firstly, Kingsley says he's been taking care of his sick mom for five years, but in Fresh Meat Simon's mom is fine. Second, in ''The Inbetweeners Movie'' it's heavily implied Simon has had sex with [[spoiler:Carly]], since they've been in a relationship for months. And by the end of the movie [[spoiler:he's together with Lucy]]. But in Fresh Meat Kingsley confesses, to his embarrassment, that he's still a virgin. Why would he lie about something like that? Finally, the teachers at the university also call Kingsley "Kingsley". Unless Simon was so ashamed of his past that he legally changed his name (even though he was going to the uni in a completely different area, where no one would know who he is), wouldn't the teachers know his real name and use that?
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*** I think you could be on to something here. In episode [=S03E02=] of TheInbetweeners, Simon appears to be wearing Kingsley's [[NiceHat hat]]

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*** I think you could be on to something here. In episode [=S03E02=] of TheInbetweeners, ''The Inbetweeners'', Simon appears to be wearing Kingsley's [[NiceHat hat]]
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[[WMG: Kingsley is actually [[TheInbetweeners Simon]].]]

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[[WMG: Kingsley is actually [[TheInbetweeners [[Series/TheInbetweeners Simon]].]]



B) The timeline fits. In the summer of 2011, the Inbetweeners movie is released, showing the gang on holiday the summer just before they go to university. FreshMeat started airing in the autumn of 2011, when Simon would have been going University.

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B) The timeline fits. In the summer of 2011, the Inbetweeners movie is released, showing the gang on holiday the summer just before they go to university. FreshMeat ''Series/FreshMeat'' started airing in the autumn of 2011, when Simon would have been going University.
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[[WMG: Kingsley has a [[SeparatedAtBirth twin brother]] raised in North America, played by MichaelCera.]]

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[[WMG: Kingsley has a [[SeparatedAtBirth twin brother]] raised in North America, played by MichaelCera.Creator/MichaelCera.]]
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[[WMG: In twenty year's time, Ralph will be a Tory Prime Minister, and JP will be Chancellor of the Exchequer.]]

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[[WMG: In twenty year's years' time, Ralph will be a Tory Prime Minister, and JP will be Chancellor of the Exchequer.]]
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[[WMG: In twenty year's time, Ralph will be a Tory Prime Minister, and JP will be Chancellor of the Exchequer.]]
Each mentions becoming the above, and most politicians start planning when they are at university. (I'm not suggesting this is a good thing!)
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*** I think you could be on to something here. In episode [=0302=] of TheInbetweeners, Simon appears to be wearing Kingsley's [[NiceHat hat]]

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*** I think you could be on to something here. In episode [=0302=] [=S03E02=] of TheInbetweeners, Simon appears to be wearing Kingsley's [[NiceHat hat]]



He was too embarrassed to say, so he lied and said he had previously lost his virginity to a prostitute. Because he is a [[UpperClassTwit twit.]]

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He was too embarrassed to say, so he lied and said he had previously lost his virginity to a prostitute. Because he is a [[UpperClassTwit twit.]]]] This would explain why it's a bit awkward the first time they sleep together, and why JP is revealed to be holding something of a candle for her in the last episode of series 3.

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*** In Series 1 he tells Josie that he never got the chance to lose his virginity because of his mum. In TheInbetweeners, Simon's parent's insist on him keeping the door of his room open when he has girls over.

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*** In Series 1 he tells Josie that he never got the chance to lose his virginity because of his mum. In TheInbetweeners, Simon's parent's insist on him keeping the door of his room open when he has girls over.over.
*** I think you could be on to something here. In episode [=0302=] of TheInbetweeners, Simon appears to be wearing Kingsley's [[NiceHat hat]]
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[[WMG: JP lost his virginity to Josie]]
He was too embarrassed to say, so he lied and said he had previously lost his virginity to a prostitute. Because he is a [[UpperClassTwit twit.]]
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[[WMG: Fresh Meat is a distant finale to [[PeepShow Peep Show]].]]
Jez changes his name to Dan for some part of a zany scheme and becomes a university lecturer.
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*** In Series 1 tells Josie that his mum prevented him from losing his virginity. In TheInbetweeners, Simon's parent's insist on him keeping the door of his room open when he has girls over.

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*** In Series 1 he tells Josie that he never got the chance to lose his mum prevented him from losing virginity because of his virginity.mum. In TheInbetweeners, Simon's parent's insist on him keeping the door of his room open when he has girls over.
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*** In Series 1 tells Josie that his mum prevented him from losing his virginity. In TheInbetweeners, Simon's parent's insist on him keeping the door of his room open when he has girls over.

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** Simon may well have been embarrassed by his past, so chose Kingsley as a name to distance himself from it. He never keeps in touch with old friends, and who can blame him, when you have friends like [[AllMenArePerverts Jay]], [[TheDitz Neil]] and [[NerdGlasses Will]].
*** As of Series 3 we haven't been introduced to his parents or relatives, so the makers are probably keeping this trope up deliberately. Kingsley's on and off relationship with Josie mimics his one with Carly except that Josie has a far more similar personality.
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[[WMG: Howard is Gary's Twin]]
Its the same actor and both characters are roughly the same age. However Gary's flamboyant personality resulted in his brother being much more of an awkward human being and being bad with people, having to constantly live in his brother's shadow.
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[[WMG: Kingsley has an [[SeparatedAtBirth identical twin]] raised in North America, played by MichaelCera.]]

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[[WMG: Kingsley has an a [[SeparatedAtBirth identical twin]] twin brother]] raised in North America, played by MichaelCera.]]
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D) They are literally the same character.

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D) They are literally the same character.character.

[[WMG: Kingsley has an [[SeparatedAtBirth identical twin]] raised in North America, played by MichaelCera.]]
Needless to say, they have the same mannerisms and personality.
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