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* This happens before ''Theatre/DeathOfASalesman''. Willy is still broken up over Biff punching him out and leaving.

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* This happens before ''Theatre/DeathOfASalesman''. Willy is still broken up over Biff punching him out and leaving.leaving.
** Well, the one thing that could dispute this is that Juror #3 never mentions being a salesman and in fact runs a messenger service, and seems to be fairly successful.
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** And he never will, because the Loman family's refrigerator broke, and eventually the cheese will spoil and become unsafe to consume.

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** And he never will, will because the Loman family's refrigerator broke, broke and eventually the cheese will eventually spoil and become unsafe to consume.



** This logic is not Gouda. Mosterella of these are huge leaps of logic and out of the Blue. And you may say, 'cut him some slack, Pepperjack!' And I'd say someone needs to put this cow out to pasture.

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** This logic is not Gouda. Mosterella of these are huge leaps of logic and out of the Blue. And you may say, 'cut 'Cut him some slack, Pepperjack!' And I'd say someone needs to put this cow out to pasture.



Willy got into a car accident on the way home that night, and the person we see is actually his ghost come to say his last goodbyes.

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Willy got into a car accident on the way home that night, and the person we see is actually his ghost come coming to say his last goodbyes.



** I was under the impression that Willy was suffering from early-onset Alzheimer's. Confusion with time and place, poor judgement, Difficulty staying in the moment, forgetting what's just been said to him, confusion of what's going on around him, it all adds up.

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** I was under the impression that Willy was suffering from early-onset Alzheimer's. Confusion with time and place, poor judgement, Difficulty difficulty staying in the moment, forgetting what's just been said to him, confusion of about what's going on around him, it all adds up.



* ...And he just doesn't realize it. Throughout the course of the play, he's not just having flashbacks; he is quantum leaping through the events of his life. The emergence of these powers coincides with his worsening mental state, however, which is why he only flashes back to the periods in his life (where everything went wrong with Biff, when he turned down Ben's offer) where everything went wrong. The strain proves to be too much in the end, and helps drive to his suicide (...or did he simply take the final leap?).

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* ...And he just doesn't realize it. Throughout the course of the play, he's not just having flashbacks; he is quantum leaping through the events of his life. The emergence of these powers coincides with his worsening mental state, however, which is why he only flashes back to the periods in his life (where everything went wrong with Biff, Biff when he turned down Ben's offer) where everything went wrong. The strain proves to be too much in the end, and helps drive to his suicide (...or did he simply take the final leap?).



He's actually a conman. Ben is very careful about what he says; not releasing information until Willy brings it up. He never gives any information about how he really struck his fortune, other than going into the jungle for four years. It also seems improbable that somebody headed for Alaska somehow ends up in Africa.

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He's actually a conman.con man. Ben is very careful about what he says; not releasing information until Willy brings it up. He never gives any information about how he really struck his fortune, other than going into the jungle for four years. It also seems improbable that somebody headed for Alaska somehow ends up in Africa.
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[[WMG: Willy Loman is a time traveler...]]]

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[[WMG: Willy Loman is a time traveler...]]]]]
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[[WMG: Willy Loman was Dead to Begin With.]]

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[[WMG: Willy Loman was Dead to Begin With.DeadToBeginWith.]]



** I was under the impression that Willy was suffering from early-onset Alzheimers. Confusion with time and place, poor judgement, Difficulty staying in the moment, forgetting what's just been said to him, confusion of what's going on around him, it all adds up.

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** I was under the impression that Willy was suffering from early-onset Alzheimers.Alzheimer's. Confusion with time and place, poor judgement, Difficulty staying in the moment, forgetting what's just been said to him, confusion of what's going on around him, it all adds up.
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**This logic is not Gouda. Mosterella of these are huge leaps of logic and out of the Blue. And you may say, 'cut him some slack, Pepperjack!' And I'd say someone needs to put this cow out to pasture.
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[[WMG: Willy Loman is Juror #3 in ''Film/12AngryMen''.]]

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[[WMG: Willy Loman is Juror #3 in ''Film/12AngryMen''.''Film/TwelveAngryMen''.]]
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[[WMG: Willy Loman is Juror #3 in ''Theatre/12AngryMen''.]]

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[[WMG: Willy Loman is Juror #3 in ''Theatre/12AngryMen''.''Film/12AngryMen''.]]
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* One wonders if this play inspired the title of the book ''Who Moved My Cheese?''
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** I wouldn't quite call that being a time traveler. I'd call that [[SlaughterhouseFive being unstuck in time]]. So Willy is an AU Billy Pilgrim.

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** I wouldn't quite call that being a time traveler. I'd call that [[SlaughterhouseFive [[Literature/SlaughterhouseFive being unstuck in time]]. So Willy is an AU Billy Pilgrim.
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[[WMG: Willy Loman is Juror #3 in 12 Angry Men.]]

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[[WMG: Willy Loman is Juror #3 in 12 Angry Men.''Theatre/12AngryMen''.]]
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He's actually a conman. Ben is very careful about what he says; not releasing information until Willy brings it up. He never gives any information about how he really struck his fortune, other than going into the jungle for four years. It also seems improbable that somebody headed for Alaska somehow ends up in Africa.

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He's actually a conman. Ben is very careful about what he says; not releasing information until Willy brings it up. He never gives any information about how he really struck his fortune, other than going into the jungle for four years. It also seems improbable that somebody headed for Alaska somehow ends up in Africa.Africa.

[[WMG: Willy Loman is Juror #3 in 12 Angry Men.]]

* This happens before ''Theatre/DeathOfASalesman''. Willy is still broken up over Biff punching him out and leaving.
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** I wouldn't quite call that being a time traveler. I'd call that [[SlaughterhouseFive being unstuck in time]]. So Willy is an AU Billy Pilgrim.

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** I wouldn't quite call that being a time traveler. I'd call that [[SlaughterhouseFive being unstuck in time]]. So Willy is an AU Billy Pilgrim.Pilgrim.

[[WMG: Uncle Ben really wasn't Willy's brother]]
He's actually a conman. Ben is very careful about what he says; not releasing information until Willy brings it up. He never gives any information about how he really struck his fortune, other than going into the jungle for four years. It also seems improbable that somebody headed for Alaska somehow ends up in Africa.
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Because Vonnegut.


** Also, when he interacts with the dead Ben in the "present", it's still time travel. This time, however, Willy has gotten stuck between the two time periods.

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** Also, when he interacts with the dead Ben in the "present", it's still time travel. This time, however, Willy has gotten stuck between the two time periods.periods.
** I wouldn't quite call that being a time traveler. I'd call that [[SlaughterhouseFive being unstuck in time]]. So Willy is an AU Billy Pilgrim.
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** I was under the impression that Willy was suffering from early-onset Alzheimers. Confusion with time and place, poor judgement, Difficulty staying in the moment, forgetting what's just been said to him, confusion of what's going on around him, it all adds up.
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* That's not a WMG...that's the very point of the story.

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* That's not a WMG...that's the very point of the story.story.

[[WMG: Willy Loman is a time traveler...]]]
* ...And he just doesn't realize it. Throughout the course of the play, he's not just having flashbacks; he is quantum leaping through the events of his life. The emergence of these powers coincides with his worsening mental state, however, which is why he only flashes back to the periods in his life (where everything went wrong with Biff, when he turned down Ben's offer) where everything went wrong. The strain proves to be too much in the end, and helps drive to his suicide (...or did he simply take the final leap?).
** Also, when he interacts with the dead Ben in the "present", it's still time travel. This time, however, Willy has gotten stuck between the two time periods.
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If you look at the list of symptoms, you can check them all off.

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If you look at the list of symptoms, you can check them all off.off.
* That's not a WMG...that's the very point of the story.
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* Note that his first line in the play is "It's all right. I came back." Back home, or BackFromTheDead?
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Willy was incepted with the American Dream

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