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* CaliforniaDoubling: The opening scenes showing apes being processed at Ape Control were filmed on the campus of the University of California at Irvine (which had just opened in 1971).
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* CaliforniaDoubling: The opening scenes showing apes being processed at Ape Control were filmed on the newly opened campus of the University of California at Irvine (which had just opened in 1971).Irvine.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original ending had the apes slaughtering all the human characters ([[KickTheDog even [=MacDonald=], who was one of the good guys]]) after Ceasar announces that, once humanity had nearly wiped itself out in an inevitable nuclear war, [[FullCircleRevolution apes would step in and take over, subjugating whoever was left]]. Studio objections led to a partially re-shot ending, where (following a LittleNo from Lisa), Caesar reconsiders and instead says that, while the apes would still take over, they'd treat humans with some measure of compassion. Whether this improves the movie or not is a matter of debate.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original ending had the apes slaughtering all the human characters ([[KickTheDog even [=MacDonald=], who was one of the good guys]]) after Ceasar Caesar announces that, once humanity had nearly wiped itself out in an inevitable nuclear war, [[FullCircleRevolution apes would step in and take over, subjugating whoever was left]]. Studio objections led to a partially re-shot ending, where (following a LittleNo from Lisa), Caesar reconsiders and instead says that, while the apes would still take over, they'd treat humans with some measure of compassion. Whether this improves the movie or not is a matter of debate.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!" and both Breck ''and'' [=MacDonald=] being killed. [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone. This is why those lines are spoken over an awkward extreme closeup of Caesar's eyes, so they wouldn't have to worry about his mouth matching them.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: LoopingLines: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!" and both Breck ''and'' [=MacDonald=] being killed. [=Roddy McDowall=] Creator/RoddyMcDowall was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone. This is why those lines are spoken over an awkward extreme closeup of Caesar's eyes, so they wouldn't have to worry about his mouth matching them.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!" and both Breck ''and'' [=MacDonald=] being killed. [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone. This is why those lines are spoken over an awkward extreme closeup of Caesar's eyes, so they wouldn't have to worry about his mouth matching them.
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* FocusGroupEnding: The movie was always going to end with the apes beginning their takeover, but originally, Breck was going to be beaten to death--a definitive demonstration about the circle of hatred. However, following a preview screening, the ending was slightly changed, with a few editing tricks and Creator/RoddyMcDowall dubbing in new dialogue.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!" and both Breck ''and'' [=MacDonald=] being killed. [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone. This is why those lines are spoken over an awkward extreme closeup of Caesar's eyes, so they wouldn't have to worry about his mouth matchingthem.them.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!" and both Breck ''and'' [=MacDonald=] being killed. [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone. This is why those lines are spoken over an awkward extreme closeup of Caesar's eyes, so they wouldn't have to worry about his mouth matching
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* DawsonCasting: Creator/RoddyMcDowall, Age 44, as Caesar, Age 20. It helps that he is in make-up and sounds younger than he actually is.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!" and both Breck ''and'' [=MacDonald=] being killed. [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!" and both Breck ''and'' [=MacDonald=] being killed. [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone. This is why those lines are spoken over an awkward extreme closeup of Caesar's eyes, so they wouldn't have to worry about his mouth matching them.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original ending had the apes slaughtering all the human characters (even [=MacDonald=], who was one of the good guys) after Ceasar announces that, once humanity had nearly wiped itself out in an inevitable nuclear war, apes would step in and take over, subjugating whoever was left. Studio objections led to a partially re-shot ending, where (following a LittleNo from Lisa), Caesar reconsiders and instead says that, while the apes would still take over, they'd treat humans with some measure of compassion. Whether this improves the movie or not is a matter of debate.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original ending had the apes slaughtering all the human characters (even ([[KickTheDog even [=MacDonald=], who was one of the good guys) guys]]) after Ceasar announces that, once humanity had nearly wiped itself out in an inevitable nuclear war, [[FullCircleRevolution apes would step in and take over, subjugating whoever was left.left]]. Studio objections led to a partially re-shot ending, where (following a LittleNo from Lisa), Caesar reconsiders and instead says that, while the apes would still take over, they'd treat humans with some measure of compassion. Whether this improves the movie or not is a matter of debate.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original ending had the apes slaughtering all the human characters (even [=MacDonald=], who was one of the good guys) after Ceasar announces that, once humanity had nearly wiped itself out in an inevitable nuclear war, apes would step in and take over, subjugating whoever was left. Studio objections led to a partially re-shot ending, where (following a LittleNo from Lisa), Caesar reconsiders and instead says that, while the apes would still take over, they'd treat humans with some measure of compassion.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!". [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!". [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original ending had the apes slaughtering all the human characters (even [=MacDonald=], who was one of the good guys) after Ceasar announces that, once humanity had nearly wiped itself out in an inevitable nuclear war, apes would step in and take over, subjugating whoever was left. Studio objections led to a partially re-shot ending, where (following a LittleNo from Lisa), Caesar reconsiders and instead says that, while the apes would still take over, they'd treat humans with some measure of compassion.
compassion. Whether this improves the movie or not is a matter of debate.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon youNOW!".NOW!" and both Breck ''and'' [=MacDonald=] being killed. [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you
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* CaliforniaDoubling: The opening scenes showing apes being processed at Ape Control were filmed on the campus of the University of California at Irvine (which had just opened in 1971).
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!". [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone.
* ''Conquest'' was well liked by African-Americans, who saw it as an allegory for their own struggles. The riot in the film was actually inspired by a real-life African-American riot.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!". [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone.
* ''Conquest'' was well liked by African-Americans, who saw it as an allegory for their own struggles. The riot in the film was actually inspired by a real-life African-American riot.
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* ''Conquest'' was well liked by African-Americans, who saw it as an allegory for their own struggles. The riot in the film was actually inspired by a real-life African-American riot.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Who knew [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Khan]] was such a nice guy?
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original cut of ''Conquest'' does not have the last few of Caesar's lines, instead ending with his shout of "That day is upon you NOW!". [=Roddy McDowall=] was asked to dub a few more lines to try and lighten the film's dark tone.
* ''Conquest'' was well liked by African-Americans, who saw it as an allegory for their own struggles. The riot in the film was actually inspired by a real-life African-American riot.
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* ''Conquest'' was well liked by African-Americans, who saw it as an allegory for their own struggles. The riot in the film was actually inspired by a real-life African-American riot.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original ending had the apes slaughtering all the human characters (even [=MacDonald=], who was one of the good guys) after Ceasar announces that, once humanity had nearly wiped itself out in an inevitable nuclear war, apes would step in and take over, subjugating whoever was left. Studio objections led to a partially re-shot ending, where (following a LittleNo from Lisa), Caesar reconsiders and instead says that, while the apes would still take over, they'd treat humans with some measure of compassion.
* HeyItsThatGuy: Who knew [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Khan]] was such a nice guy?
* HeyItsThatGuy: Who knew [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Khan]] was such a nice guy?
