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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/ElishaCuthbert was [[https://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusives/3711055/elisha-cuthbert-looks-back-on-horror-roles-including-house-of-wax-exclusive/ very disappointed]] with the end result. While she liked the original script and working with Joffé, she disagreed with the ExecutiveMeddling, saying that it felt like "two separate films smashed together."
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* OldShame: Creator/ElishaCuthbert was [[https://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusives/3711055/elisha-cuthbert-looks-back-on-horror-roles-including-house-of-wax-exclusive/ very disappointed]] with the end result. While she liked the original script and working with Joffé, she disagreed with the ExecutiveMeddling, saying that it felt like "two separate films smashed together."
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** Director Roland Joffé's career never recovered from this critical and box office flop.
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** Director Roland Joffé's career never recovered from this critical and box office flop.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "TorturePorn" horror genre. The head of After Dark Films directed and inserted these scenes behind Joffé back, with the studio's own money after simply acquiring the film for domestic distribution.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, PsychologicalThriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "TorturePorn" horror TorturePorn genre. The head of After Dark Films directed and inserted these scenes behind Joffé back, with the studio's own money after simply acquiring the film for domestic distribution.
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* OldShame: Creator/ElishaCuthbert was [[https://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusives/3711055/elisha-cuthbert-looks-back-on-horror-roles-including-house-of-wax-exclusive/ very disappointed]] with the end result. While she liked the original script and working with Roland Joffé, she disagreed with the ExecutiveMeddling, saying that it felt like "two separate films smashed together."
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* OldShame: Creator/ElishaCuthbert was [[https://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusives/3711055/elisha-cuthbert-looks-back-on-horror-roles-including-house-of-wax-exclusive/ very disappointed]] with the end result. While she liked the original script and working with Roland Joffé, she disagreed with the ExecutiveMeddling, saying that it felt like "two separate films smashed together."
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** Director Roland Joffee's career never recovered from this critical and box office flop.
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** Director Roland Joffee's Joffé's career never recovered from this critical and box office flop.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "TorturePorn" horror genre. The head of After Dark Films directed and inserted these scenes behind Joffe's back, with the studio's own money after simply acquiring the film for domestic distribution.
* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "TorturePorn" horror genre. The head of After Dark Films directed and inserted these scenes behind Joffe's Joffé back, with the studio's own money after simply acquiring the film for domestic distribution.
* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' ''Franchise/{{Saw}}''[='=]s wake, the latter with that franchise also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.sub-genre.
* OldShame: Creator/ElishaCuthbert was [[https://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusives/3711055/elisha-cuthbert-looks-back-on-horror-roles-including-house-of-wax-exclusive/ very disappointed]] with the end result. While she liked the original script and working with Roland Joffé, she disagreed with the ExecutiveMeddling, saying that it felt like "two separate films smashed together."
* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in
* OldShame: Creator/ElishaCuthbert was [[https://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusives/3711055/elisha-cuthbert-looks-back-on-horror-roles-including-house-of-wax-exclusive/ very disappointed]] with the end result. While she liked the original script and working with Roland Joffé, she disagreed with the ExecutiveMeddling, saying that it felt like "two separate films smashed together."
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* StarDerailingRole: Elisha Cuthbert hasn't really done any well known films since this one.
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Set in New York, but was shot in Russia.
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Set It is set in New York, but it was shot in Russia.
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Set in New York? But York, but was shot in Russia.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 20th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 20th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) theaters) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "TorturePorn" horror genre.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "TorturePorn" horror genre. The head of After Dark Films directed and inserted these scenes behind Joffe's back, with the studio's own money after simply acquiring the film for domestic distribution.
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* ReleaseDateChange: Scheduled to debut in May 2007, it was forcibly pushed back to July 2007 after the distributor published controversial public advertisements for it that the MPAA had explicitly rejected, which led them to delay its rating of the film as punishment.
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* ReleaseDateChange: Scheduled to debut in May 2007, it was forcibly pushed back to July 2007 after the distributor published controversial public advertisements for it (see OvershadowedByControversy on the YMMV page) that the MPAA had explicitly rejected, which led them to delay its rating of the film as a punishment.
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* ReleaseDateChange: Scheduled to debut in May 2007, it was forcibly pushed back to July 2007 after the distributor published controversial public advertisements for it that the MPAA had explicitly rejected, which led them to delay its rating of the film as punishment.
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Set in New York? But was shot in Russia.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 19th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 19th 20th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 18th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 18th 19th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 18th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), Website/RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 18th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 14th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 14th 18th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* CreatorKiller: Director Roland Joffee's career never recovered from this critical and box office flop.
** Larry Cohen's career was killed by this film as well.
** Larry Cohen's career was killed by this film as well.
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** Director Roland Joffee's career never recovered from this critical and box office flop.
**Larry Cohen's Creator/LarryCohen's career was killed by this film as well.
** Director Roland Joffee's career never recovered from this critical and box office flop.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 14th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 14th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''{{Saw}}'s'' ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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** Larry Cohen's career was killed by this film as well.
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* CreatorKiller: Director Roland Joffee's career never recovered from this critical and box office flop.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 14th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 14th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.sub-genre.
* StarDerailingRole: Elisha Cuthbert hasn't really done any well known films since this one.
* StarDerailingRole: Elisha Cuthbert hasn't really done any well known films since this one.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 14th among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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* GenreKiller: The negative press around its marketing campaign (namely, its public billboards depicting a woman being abducted and presumably tortured just out-of-frame), its critical reception (9% at RottenTomatoes), and its box office failure (just $2 million ''total'' despite opening in over 1,000 theaters; it sits 14th all-time among the largest % of theater drops after a required two-week run) pretty much killed off any more [[FollowTheLeader followers]] in ''{{Saw}}'s'' wake, the latter also fading away as TorturePorn gave way to paranormal films as the next bankable horror sub-genre.
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** GenreKiller: And then, the critical loathing for the film and the backlash against its '''incredibly''' tasteless marketing campaign ended up killing off the "torture porn" genre as anything but a straight-to-video niche market.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "torture porn" horror genre.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "torture porn" "TorturePorn" horror genre.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally conceived as a thriller, but executives demanded a reshoot to add several {{Gorn}} scenes and turn it into an example of the then-hyped "torture porn" horror genre.
** GenreKiller: And then, the critical loathing for the film and the backlash against its '''incredibly''' tasteless marketing campaign ended up killing off the "torture porn" genre as anything but a straight-to-video niche market.
** GenreKiller: And then, the critical loathing for the film and the backlash against its '''incredibly''' tasteless marketing campaign ended up killing off the "torture porn" genre as anything but a straight-to-video niche market.