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** Alice grew up believing that following the law was always the right thing to do, even if it sounds asinine on paper. It's when she's an adult and seeing firsthand how harmful these laws are that she begins to question the worth in following them when they're clearly harming people.
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** The laws have enough leeway for [[TakeAThirdOption Alice to employ legal fiction]]
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* '''Enforced''': "This LawfulGood hero hasn't had a moral dilemma in a while. [[TheBeLawfulOrGood Let's put him against the cops!]]"
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* '''Enforced''': "This LawfulGood hero hasn't had a moral dilemma in a while. [[TheBeLawfulOrGood [[ToBeLawfulOrGood Let's put him against the cops!]]"
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* '''Enforced''': "This LawfulGood hero hasn't had a MoralDilemma in a while. Let's put him against the cops!"
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* '''Enforced''': "This LawfulGood hero hasn't had a MoralDilemma moral dilemma in a while. [[TheBeLawfulOrGood Let's put him against the cops!"cops!]]"
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* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must choose between following her code and completely destroying a town which is the base of an AmbiguouslyEvil organization, along with its good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
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* '''Straight''': The lawful good LawfulGood {{Paladin}} Alice must choose between following her code and completely destroying a town which is the base of an AmbiguouslyEvil organization, along with its good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
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* '''Inverted''': [[SdrawkcabName Ecila]], an EvilOverlord BloodKnight, must choose between killing the people in a town or sparing them for the benefit of her rule.
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* '''Inverted''': (To Be Lawful or Evil) LawfulEvil [[SdrawkcabName Ecila]], an EvilOverlord BloodKnight, must choose between killing the people in a town or sparing them for the benefit of her rule.
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* '''Defied''': "There will be no debate. I'm doing what the law says, no matter what."
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** "There will be no debate. I'm doing what the law says, no matter what.""
** ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight
** "There will be no debate. I'm doing what the law says, no matter what.
** ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice ends up in prison because she didn't follow the law, allowing [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]] to take over the world unhindered.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Alice ends up in prison because she didn't follow the law, allowing [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]] to take over the worldunhindered.unhindered.
** [[LawfulStupid Alice]] chose to follow the law instead of following her conscience, and as a result, [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]] managed to take over the world; Alice now seen as a pawn and is treated like the enemy for her actions.
** Alice ends up in prison because she didn't follow the law, allowing [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]] to take over the world
** [[LawfulStupid Alice]] chose to follow the law instead of following her conscience, and as a result, [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]] managed to take over the world; Alice now seen as a pawn and is treated like the enemy for her actions.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character must chose between doing what is honorable and what is compassionate/good/just.
* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must chose between following her code and completely destroying a town which is the base of an AmbiguouslyEvil organization, along with its good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice must chose whether or not to annihilate an entire race because they've all committed at least one petty sin.
* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must chose between following her code and completely destroying a town which is the base of an AmbiguouslyEvil organization, along with its good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice must chose whether or not to annihilate an entire race because they've all committed at least one petty sin.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character must chose choose between doing what is honorable and what is compassionate/good/just.
* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice mustchose choose between following her code and completely destroying a town which is the base of an AmbiguouslyEvil organization, along with its good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice mustchose choose whether or not to annihilate an entire race because they've all committed at least one petty sin.
* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice must
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* '''Inverted''': [[SdrawkcabName Ecila]], an EvilOverlord BloodKnight, must chose between killing the people in a town or sparing them for the benefit of her rule.
* '''Subverted''': It seems as if Alice is disobeying the law for a good reason, but it turns out that she was being bribed into sparing the town by it's leader Alex.
* '''Subverted''': It seems as if Alice is disobeying the law for a good reason, but it turns out that she was being bribed into sparing the town by it's leader Alex.
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* '''Inverted''': [[SdrawkcabName Ecila]], an EvilOverlord BloodKnight, must chose choose between killing the people in a town or sparing them for the benefit of her rule.
* '''Subverted''': It seems as if Alice is disobeying the law for a good reason, but it turns out that she was being bribed into sparing the town byit's its leader Alex.
* '''Subverted''': It seems as if Alice is disobeying the law for a good reason, but it turns out that she was being bribed into sparing the town by
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice seems to be trying to help the town, but it turns out that she was being manipulated. The manipulators then turn out to be AmbiguouslyEvil, but Alice still complies. Meanwhile, Alice's leaders turn out to be trying to destroy the town for purposes of enforcing their rule, and not out of justice. Then LovableRogue Bob comes in, and seems to prove Alice's 'manipulators' to be good people...
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice seems to be trying to help the town, but it turns out that she was being manipulated. The manipulators then turn out to be AmbiguouslyEvil, but Alice still complies. Meanwhile, Alice's leaders turn out to be trying to destroy the town for purposes of enforcing their rule, and not out of justice. Then LovableRogue Bob comes in, in and seems to prove Alice's 'manipulators' to be good people...
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* '''Enforced''': "This LawfulGood hero hasn't had a MoralDilemma in a while. Lets pit him against the cops!"
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* '''Enforced''': "This LawfulGood hero hasn't had a MoralDilemma in a while. Lets pit Let's put him against the cops!"
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* '''Reconstructed''': The ChaoticGood Bob, seeing that the law was unjust, breaks Alice out of prison. He allows her to join his RagtagBunchOfMisfits. Then, he [[PayEvilUntoEvil assassinates all of the people who aided in capturing Alice]], because they turned out to be working with the Emperor Evulz to set up the dilemma.
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* '''Reconstructed''': The Alice breaks the law in order to do good, but notified her occasional ally, ChaoticGood Bob, seeing [[CouldSayItBut of her unlawful action that the law was unjust, could put her in jail]]. He then breaks Alice out of prison. He prison and allows her to join his RagtagBunchOfMisfits. Then, he [[PayEvilUntoEvil assassinates all of the people who aided in capturing Alice]], because they turned out to be working with the Emperor Evulz to set up the dilemma.
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* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must chose between following her code and completly destroying a town which is the base of an AmbiguouslyEvil organization, along with it's good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
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* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must chose between following her code and completly completely destroying a town which is the base of an AmbiguouslyEvil organization, along with it's its good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
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* '''Invoked''': Alice is looking for some way to discredit the law. She then sees the town as an opportunity to expose it's cruelty.
* '''Exploited''': LouisCypher uses this dilemma to make Alice disown the law.
* '''Exploited''': LouisCypher uses this dilemma to make Alice disown the law.
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* '''Invoked''': Alice is looking for some way to discredit the law. She then sees the town as an opportunity to expose it's its cruelty.
* '''Exploited''': LouisCypher uses this dilemma to make Alice disownthe law.her law and [[ConsummateLiar consider his own as righteous]].
* '''Exploited''': LouisCypher uses this dilemma to make Alice disown
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** The lawmakers who created Alice's code did not have a perfect sense of morals, and thus created a flawed code.
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** The lawmakers who created Alice's code did not have a perfect sense of morals, and thus created a flawed code.law.
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* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must chose between following her code and completly destroying a town with GreyingMorality, along with it's good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
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* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must chose between following her code and completly destroying a town with GreyingMorality, which is the base of an AmbiguouslyEvil organization, along with it's good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
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** Alice's good actions never conflict with her law,
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** Alice's good actions never come into conflict with her law,law.
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The laws of Troperia say that I can't give you a link to the main page. I'm still [[ToBeLawfulOrGood giving you one]], though, because it's the right thing to do.
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The laws of Troperia say that I can't give you a link to the main page. I'm still [[ToBeLawfulOrGood giving you one]], going to]], though, because it's the right thing to do.
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The laws of Troperia say I can't give you a link to the main page. I'm still [[ToBeLawfulOrGood giving you one]], though, because it's the right thing to do.
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The laws of Troperia say that I can't give you a link to the main page. I'm still [[ToBeLawfulOrGood giving you one]], though, because it's the right thing to do.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character must chose between doing what is honorable and what is compassionate/good/just.
* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must chose between following her code and completly destroying a town with GreyingMorality, along with it's good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice must chose whether or not to annihilate an entire race because they've all committed at least one petty sin.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice must decide whether or not to capture the ChaoticGood LovableRogue Bob, as he did commit some crimes worthy of imprisonment.
* '''Justified''':
** The lawmakers who created Alice's code did not have a perfect sense of morals, and thus created a flawed code.
** The laws really are right, but Alice is a WideEyedIdealist who doesn't understand why they are correct.
* '''Inverted''': [[SdrawkcabName Ecila]], an EvilOverlord BloodKnight, must chose between killing the people in a town or sparing them for the benefit of her rule.
* '''Subverted''': It seems as if Alice is disobeying the law for a good reason, but it turns out that she was being bribed into sparing the town by it's leader Alex.
* '''Double Subverted''': Alex was really trying to do good, and had to debate whether to break the law in order to spare his town.
* '''Parodied''': Alice, a Paladin under LawfulStupid leaders, must constantly go against them due to the insanity of their laws.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice seems to be trying to help the town, but it turns out that she was being manipulated. The manipulators then turn out to be AmbiguouslyEvil, but Alice still complies. Meanwhile, Alice's leaders turn out to be trying to destroy the town for purposes of enforcing their rule, and not out of justice. Then LovableRogue Bob comes in, and seems to prove Alice's 'manipulators' to be good people...
* '''Averted''':
** [[ChaoticGood Alice doesn't care about the law at all.]]
** Alice's good actions never conflict with her law,
* '''Enforced''': "This LawfulGood hero hasn't had a MoralDilemma in a while. Lets pit him against the cops!"
* '''Lampshaded''':
** "The laws aren't matching up with your morals, are they, Alice?"
** "You know, the laws aren't perfect. I'm not going to let them override my reasoning."
* '''Invoked''': Alice is looking for some way to discredit the law. She then sees the town as an opportunity to expose it's cruelty.
* '''Exploited''': LouisCypher uses this dilemma to make Alice disown the law.
* '''Defied''': "There will be no debate. I'm doing what the law says, no matter what."
* '''Discussed''': "Maybe I should be putting the laws of the land to question..."
* '''Conversed''': "Okay, so they made the law have a mistake in it so the conflict won't be resolved for twenty more seasons. How original!"
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice ends up in prison because she didn't follow the law, allowing [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]] to take over the world unhindered.
* '''Reconstructed''': The ChaoticGood Bob, seeing that the law was unjust, breaks Alice out of prison. He allows her to join his RagtagBunchOfMisfits. Then, he [[PayEvilUntoEvil assassinates all of the people who aided in capturing Alice]], because they turned out to be working with the Emperor Evulz to set up the dilemma.
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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
%%* '''Gender Inverted''': ???
%%* '''Untwisted''': ???
%%* '''Unparodied''': ???
* '''Straight''': The lawful good {{Paladin}} Alice must chose between following her code and completly destroying a town with GreyingMorality, along with it's good people, or going against her laws and sparing the innocent lives.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice must chose whether or not to annihilate an entire race because they've all committed at least one petty sin.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice must decide whether or not to capture the ChaoticGood LovableRogue Bob, as he did commit some crimes worthy of imprisonment.
* '''Justified''':
** The lawmakers who created Alice's code did not have a perfect sense of morals, and thus created a flawed code.
** The laws really are right, but Alice is a WideEyedIdealist who doesn't understand why they are correct.
* '''Inverted''': [[SdrawkcabName Ecila]], an EvilOverlord BloodKnight, must chose between killing the people in a town or sparing them for the benefit of her rule.
* '''Subverted''': It seems as if Alice is disobeying the law for a good reason, but it turns out that she was being bribed into sparing the town by it's leader Alex.
* '''Double Subverted''': Alex was really trying to do good, and had to debate whether to break the law in order to spare his town.
* '''Parodied''': Alice, a Paladin under LawfulStupid leaders, must constantly go against them due to the insanity of their laws.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice seems to be trying to help the town, but it turns out that she was being manipulated. The manipulators then turn out to be AmbiguouslyEvil, but Alice still complies. Meanwhile, Alice's leaders turn out to be trying to destroy the town for purposes of enforcing their rule, and not out of justice. Then LovableRogue Bob comes in, and seems to prove Alice's 'manipulators' to be good people...
* '''Averted''':
** [[ChaoticGood Alice doesn't care about the law at all.]]
** Alice's good actions never conflict with her law,
* '''Enforced''': "This LawfulGood hero hasn't had a MoralDilemma in a while. Lets pit him against the cops!"
* '''Lampshaded''':
** "The laws aren't matching up with your morals, are they, Alice?"
** "You know, the laws aren't perfect. I'm not going to let them override my reasoning."
* '''Invoked''': Alice is looking for some way to discredit the law. She then sees the town as an opportunity to expose it's cruelty.
* '''Exploited''': LouisCypher uses this dilemma to make Alice disown the law.
* '''Defied''': "There will be no debate. I'm doing what the law says, no matter what."
* '''Discussed''': "Maybe I should be putting the laws of the land to question..."
* '''Conversed''': "Okay, so they made the law have a mistake in it so the conflict won't be resolved for twenty more seasons. How original!"
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice ends up in prison because she didn't follow the law, allowing [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]] to take over the world unhindered.
* '''Reconstructed''': The ChaoticGood Bob, seeing that the law was unjust, breaks Alice out of prison. He allows her to join his RagtagBunchOfMisfits. Then, he [[PayEvilUntoEvil assassinates all of the people who aided in capturing Alice]], because they turned out to be working with the Emperor Evulz to set up the dilemma.
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The laws of Troperia say I can't give you a link to the main page. I'm still [[ToBeLawfulOrGood giving you one]], though, because it's the right thing to do.
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%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
%%* '''Gender Inverted''': ???
%%* '''Untwisted''': ???
%%* '''Unparodied''': ???
