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* ''Fanfic/{{I See What You Do Behind Closed Doors|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Max starts PullingTheThread on Lila's claims after Ladybug rejects her claims of [[CelebrityLie being best friends]], pointing out that despite supposedly being brilliant enough to have impressed Tony Stark, Lila [[HomeworkSlave has him doing all her homework for her]]. He then looks up all of her claims and finds evidence that she was deceiving them the whole time. Unfazed, Lila admits everything and [[spoiler:reveals that Marinette wasn't the only one who knew [[CassandraTruth the truth]] about her, declaring Adrien to be her AccompliceByInaction]].

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* ''Fanfic/{{BURN THE WITCH|MiraculousLadybug}}'': After the events of "Chameleon", Marinette ''wanted'' to expose [[BitchInSheepsClothing Lila]], but Adrien convinced her to stop by reasoning that [[HoistByHisOwnPetard her lies would catch up to her eventually]] without their involvement. While he's ''technically'' correct, the story [[DeconstructionFic deconstructs this]]: Sure, Lila's lies caught up to her... but only after she'd done so much damage that the latest [[VillainOfTheWeek Akumatized villain]] is Witch Hunter, who wants to outright ''burn Lila at the stake'' for her crimes. And her many cruel actions have made most of the main characters susceptible to Witch Hunter's MoreThanMindControl which convinces them that burning Lila alive is the ''right'' thing to do.

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* ''Fanfic/TheBabysittingFiasco'' does this in two stages. The first half of the story has Marlena learn that Alya and Nino have been lying to their parents and forcing Marinette to babysit their siblings for them while they reaped the rewards of being paid extra allowance for their "services" and sneaking around behind their backs going on secret dates. After dealing with their deception, Marlena and Sabine team up to investigate Lila and inform ''her'' mother of what ''she's'' been up to.
* ''Fanfic/{{BURN THE WITCH|MiraculousLadybug}}'': After the events of "Chameleon", Marinette ''wanted'' to expose [[BitchInSheepsClothing Lila]], but Adrien convinced her to stop by reasoning that [[HoistByHisOwnPetard her lies would catch up to her eventually]] without their involvement. While he's ''technically'' correct, the story [[DeconstructionFic deconstructs this]]: Sure, Lila's lies caught up to her... but only after she'd done so much damage that the latest [[VillainOfTheWeek Akumatized villain]] is Witch Hunter, who wants to outright ''burn Lila at the stake'' for her crimes. And her many cruel actions have made most of the main characters susceptible to Witch Hunter's MoreThanMindControl MoreThanMindControl, which convinces them that burning Lila alive is the ''right'' thing to do.



* ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'' has one of the most painfully PlayedStraight examples of this trope in animation history, but also deconstructs it. Flik supposedly finds "warrior bugs" to save his colony after misconstruing a situation, and when he realizes his mistake (that they're ''circus performers'' rather than trained warriors), he's forced to keep the lie going in order to not cause panic among the other ants, especially because the plan to use a decoy bird to scare the villainous grasshoppers away has a lot of merit in its own right. Once the colony finds out after their owner comes to the colony to get them back, it inevitably results in the colony, outraged by the deception, exiling Flik and the circus bugs -- but this leaves them without a backup plan and no time to build a new offering for Hopper, resulting in [[DarkestHour the grasshoppers taking over the colony]]. [[spoiler:Later on, the fake bird scare not only ''almost'' works but also directly leads up to Hopper's death in the climax, and the colony concedes that condemning Flik just because he lied about ''one'' part of their plan probably wasn't the best idea]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'' has one of the most painfully PlayedStraight examples of this trope in animation history, but also deconstructs it. Flik supposedly finds "warrior bugs" to save his colony after misconstruing a situation, and when he realizes his mistake (that they're ''circus performers'' rather than trained warriors), he's forced to keep the lie going in order to not cause panic among the other ants, especially because the plan to use a decoy bird to scare the villainous grasshoppers away has a lot of merit in its own right. Once the colony finds out after their owner comes to the colony to get them back, it inevitably results in the colony, outraged by the deception, exiling Flik and the circus bugs -- but this leaves them without a backup plan and no time to build a new offering for Hopper, resulting in [[DarkestHour the grasshoppers taking over the colony]]. [[spoiler:Later on, the fake bird scare not only ''almost'' works but also directly leads up to Hopper's death in the climax, and the colony concedes that condemning Flik just because he lied about ''one'' part of their plan probably wasn't the best idea]].idea.]]
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* ''Fanfic/MarinettesWeekOff'': Notably {{Averted|Trope}} in the sequel; despite Lila telling some BlatantLies about ''The Embers of Pirates and Mermaids'' and the song Jagged Stone wrote for the soundtrack, including falsely claiming it to be a "party song" penned in her honor when it's actually an PowerBallad, Alya and the rest of her followers are too distracted by the revelation that Marinette's ''starring'' in the movie to realize how they were misled. Alya's last scene has her trying to make Marinette jealous by claiming Lila will be using all her [[CelebrityLie supposed big-name connections]] to help her out, and the story ends without her or anyone else learning said connections don't exist.
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* ''Fanfic/{{Shadows}}'': In addition to Lila's true nature getting exposed to her classmates, Cyril is also indirectly responsible for getting Lila expelled back in New York.

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* ''Fanfic/{{Shadows}}'': ''Fanfic/{{Shadows|Magiaburst}}'': In addition to Lila's true nature getting exposed to her classmates, Cyril is also indirectly responsible for getting Lila expelled back in New York.
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* ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'': [[spoiler:Charlie learns in Episode 6 that [[FallenAngel Vaggie is a former Exorcist]], which drives a wedge in their relationship as Charlie begins to wonder what else she's been keeping a secret and starts to feel horrible for distrusting Vaggie just for keeping one secret from her. It takes Charlie discussing it with Rosie before they can patch things up, as Rosie points out that not only has Vaggie never lied to Charlie and [[OldShame only kept it a secret out of shame]], but that she has always been nothing less than supportive towards Charlie no matter what.]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Rosie:''' If there's anything I've learned, it's that words are cheap. But actions, they speak the truth.]]
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* ''[[https://unmaskedagain.tumblr.com/post/189474563797/rate-this-trust-is-hard-to-come-by Rate This (Trust is Hard to Come By)]]'' has a fan of Ladybug get akumatized into the Gardener, whose powers reveal how much the heroine trusts everyone in Paris in the form of glowing numbers floating over everyone's heads. Touching these numbers reveals her evaluations of each individual's character. Most of Marinette's classmates are mortified to learn just how low their scores are, and ''horrified'' to see Lila strolling in with a red ''-51'' over her head, being the only person in Paris aside from the supervillains to have a negative number.

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* ''[[https://unmaskedagain.tumblr.com/post/189474563797/rate-this-trust-is-hard-to-come-by ''[[Fanfic/RateThis Rate This (Trust is Hard to Come By)]]'' has a fan of Ladybug get akumatized into the Gardener, whose powers reveal how much the heroine trusts everyone in Paris in the form of glowing numbers floating over everyone's heads. Touching these numbers reveals her evaluations of each individual's character. Most of Marinette's classmates are mortified to learn just how low their scores are, and ''horrified'' to see Lila strolling in with a red ''-51'' over her head, being the only person in Paris aside from the supervillains to have a negative number.
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* ''Fanfic/HopToIt'': Rabbit tells Nymph a HalfTruth and [[SureLetsGoWithThat goes with the other heroine's presumption]] that [[spoiler:Omega is the main reason why they're in Paris]]. Naturally, Nymph is less than pleased when the truth comes out -- it costs Rabbit all of the regard she'd gradually earned from her. [[spoiler:Firefly]] is [[BrokenPedestal similarly shaken]], asking Rabbit outright "Do you actually believe I’m a good hero, or were you lying to me too?"

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* ''Fanfic/HopToIt'': Rabbit tells Nymph a HalfTruth [[MetaphoricallyTrue half truth]] and [[SureLetsGoWithThat goes with the other heroine's presumption]] that [[spoiler:Omega is the main reason why they're in Paris]]. Naturally, Nymph is less than pleased when the truth comes out -- it costs Rabbit all of the regard she'd gradually earned from her. [[spoiler:Firefly]] is [[BrokenPedestal similarly shaken]], asking Rabbit outright "Do you actually believe I’m a good hero, or were you lying to me too?"

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* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': {{Downplayed}}. As they get to know Ladybug better, the other heroes realize that she would ''never'' tell a civilian her SecretIdentity, much less let her talk about it in public. As more members of the class become temporary heroes, they subsequently realize the truth as well. Eventually, Marinette casually tells Lila that everybody save for Marc and possibly Ivan is aware that she's a liar, so there's really no need to keep up the charade. Lila assumes this is some kind of trick and ignores her.

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* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': {{Downplayed}}.{{Downplayed|Trope}}. As they get to know Ladybug better, the other heroes realize that she would ''never'' tell a civilian her SecretIdentity, much less let her talk about it in public. As more members of the class become temporary heroes, they subsequently realize the truth as well. Eventually, Marinette casually tells Lila that everybody save for Marc and possibly Ivan is aware that she's a liar, so there's really no need to keep up the charade. Lila assumes this is some kind of trick and ignores her.


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* In the ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' episode "Reality Trip", Freak Show reveals to everyone that Danny Fenton is the ghost hero Phantom. His parents are confused as to why he would hide this from them and are shocked when they discover that Jazz was fully aware of this ([[SecretSecretKeeper though she admits Danny never actually told her either]]), questioning why he'd something so important from his own family. Jazz immediately points out that [[HunterOfMonsters they are ghost hunters and researchers who constantly talk about wanting to destroy the undead spirits "molecule by molecule"]].

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' episode "Reality Trip", Freak Show reveals to everyone that Danny Fenton is the ghost hero Phantom. His parents are confused as to why he would hide this from them and are shocked when they discover that Jazz was fully aware of this ([[SecretSecretKeeper though she admits Danny never actually told her either]]), questioning why he'd hide something so important from his own family. Jazz immediately points out that [[HunterOfMonsters they are ghost hunters and researchers who constantly talk about wanting to destroy the undead spirits "molecule by molecule"]].
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* ''Fanfic/StrikerStrikesBack'': Angel Dust and Moxxie pretend that they're [[FakeRelationship already in a relationship]] in an attempt to protect each other from Valentino. Eventually, he learns the truth and promptly confronts Angel Dust.



* ''Fanfic/{{I See What You Do Behind Closed Doors|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Max starts PullingTheThread on Lila's claims after Ladybug rejects her claims of [[CelebrityLie being best friends]], pointing out that [[HomeworkSlave Lila has him doing all her homework for her]]. He then looks up all of her claims and finds evidence that she was deceiving the whole time. Unfazed, Lila admits everything and [[spoiler:reveals that Marinette wasn't the only one who knew [[CassandraTruth the truth]] about her, declaring Adrien to be her AccompliceByInaction]].

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* ''Fanfic/{{I See What You Do Behind Closed Doors|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Max starts PullingTheThread on Lila's claims after Ladybug rejects her claims of [[CelebrityLie being best friends]], pointing out that despite supposedly being brilliant enough to have impressed Tony Stark, Lila [[HomeworkSlave Lila has him doing all her homework for her]]. He then looks up all of her claims and finds evidence that she was deceiving them the whole time. Unfazed, Lila admits everything and [[spoiler:reveals that Marinette wasn't the only one who knew [[CassandraTruth the truth]] about her, declaring Adrien to be her AccompliceByInaction]].
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* ''Fanfic/{{The Wolves in the Woods|MiraculousLadybug}}'':
** Lila is presented [[AdaptationalSympathy more sympathetically]] here; unlike most incarnations, she didn't intend to turn the class against Marinette ''[[GoneHorriblyRight so effectively]]'', and is [[EveryoneHasStandards legitimately horrified]] by the results. During Ms. Bustier's trial, Lila admits to her {{Celebrity Lie}}s on the stand.
** One side effect of Lila's honesty on the stand is that ''Adrien'' is revealed to have lied under oath, getting him into serious trouble for character defamation. This severely damages his reputation as "Paris' Golden Boy", which fades further and further as he continues [[BlamingTheVictim blaming Marinette]] for "causing" all their problems by speaking up and defending herself against the bullying.
** [[spoiler:Alya Césaire]], like Adrien, was secretly aware all along that Lila was lying... and deliberately went along with the MaliciousSlander due to their [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy of Marinette]] and desiring to [[TallPoppySyndrome "knock her down a few pegs"]] and turn her into their ExtremeDoormat. Their parents [[InternalReveal learn about this]] first; in "Whoever Fights Monsters", Nino discovers the truth and is ''absolutely furious'', demanding to know whether ''everything'' [[WasItAllALie was just a lie]].

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* ''Fanfic/MaribatAU'': A common plot point in various {{Recursive Fanfic|tion}}s is Lila [[CelebrityLie claiming to be close to the Waynes]], only for the Waynes to promptly prove otherwise. This frequently includes Lila pretending she's "secretly engaged" to Damian, prompting him to reveal his relationship with ''Marinette''.
** For extra hilarity, sometimes Lila will [[FailedASpotCheck fail to recognize]] the person calling her out, leading to her digging herself deeper without realizing she's arguing with [[RightInFrontOfMe somebody she claimed to know]]. Including her own [[SelfProclaimedLoveInterest supposed 'fiance']].



* In ''Fanfic/OfPatienceAndPettiness'', the truth about Lila is revealed to the whole class shortly after the events of "Chameleon", via Marinette 'apologizing' to her by calling Jagged Stone and asking him to sing the song that he'd supposedly written for her in front of the whole class.

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* In ''Fanfic/OfPatienceAndPettiness'', the truth about Lila is revealed to the whole class shortly after the events of "Chameleon", via Marinette 'apologizing' to her by calling Jagged Stone and asking him to sing the song that he'd supposedly written for her in front of the whole class. This results in her being ushered out of the story swiftly; the primary problems that arise from her exposure are how Adrien, Alya and most of the class [[NeverMyFault refuse to recognize]] their own culpability, blaming Lila entirely for what happened and expecting to be EasilyForgiven without acknowledging how their [[FairWeatherFriend Fair-Weather Friendship]] hurt Marinette.


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* ''Fanfic/ThanksButNo'': Following Lila's stint as Jadeite, Scarabella informs the public that she's been going around falsely claiming to be her "best friend" and one of the reserve heroes. Nadja ends the interview warning kids not to lie, or else Hawkmoth will come after them.

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* ''Fanfic/RaiseYourVoiceAgainstLiars'': While Marinette's class is visiting Japan, they run into Akira and his friends, who point out the flaws in her claims that Jagged Stone wrote a love song about her. (Namely that ''she's a teenager'' young enough to be his child, meaning any such "love song" would be scandalous if it existed.) Later, Lila is the first Parisian target of the Phantom Thieves.


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* ''Fanfic/HopToIt'': Rabbit tells Nymph a HalfTruth and [[SureLetsGoWithThat goes with the other heroine's presumption]] that [[spoiler:Omega is the main reason why they're in Paris]]. Naturally, Nymph is less than pleased when the truth comes out -- it costs Rabbit all of the regard she'd gradually earned from her. [[spoiler:Firefly]] is [[BrokenPedestal similarly shaken]], asking Rabbit outright "Do you actually believe I’m a good hero, or were you lying to me too?"

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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' canon presents Lila Rossi as a CompulsiveLiar and ManipulativeBitch who routinely [[KarmaHoudini evades all consequences]] for her actions. As a result, it's a ''very'' common [[FandomSpecificPlot/MiraculousLadybug Fandom-Specific Plot]] for her deception to finally be exposed.
** ''[[Fanfic/BurnTheWitchMiraculousLadybug BURN THE WITCH]]'': After the events of "Chameleon", Marinette ''wanted'' to expose [[BitchInSheepsClothing Lila]], but Adrien convinced her to stop by reasoning that [[HoistByHisOwnPetard her lies would catch up to her eventually]] without their involvement. While he's ''technically'' correct, the story [[DeconstructionFic deconstructs this]]: Sure, Lila's lies caught up to her... but only after she'd done so much damage that the latest [[VillainOfTheWeek Akumatized villain]] is Witch Hunter, who wants to outright ''burn Lila at the stake'' for her crimes. And her many cruel actions have made most of the main characters susceptible to Witch Hunter's MoreThanMindControl which convinces them that burning Lila alive is the ''right'' thing to do.
** ''Webcomic/FeralnetteAU'': In sketches for the series, Lila's deceptive nature is ultimately revealed by [[spoiler:her own inner voice, thanks to Lady Clarity's powers. Lila's ego is so immense that her inner voice gleefully brags about how tricking everyone and working with Hawkmoth, much to the horror of all present, including Lila herself]].
** ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': {{Downplayed}}. As they get to know Ladybug better, the other heroes realize that she would ''never'' tell a civilian her SecretIdentity, much less let her talk about it in public. As more members of the class become temporary heroes, they subsequently realize the truth as well. Eventually, Marinette casually tells Lila that everybody save for Marc and possibly Ivan is aware that she's a liar, so there's really no need to keep up the charade. Lila assumes this is some kind of trick and ignores her.
** ''Fanfic/{{I See What You Do Behind Closed Doors|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Max starts PullingTheThread on Lila's claims after Ladybug rejects her claims of [[CelebrityLie being best friends]], pointing out that [[HomeworkSlave Lila has him doing all her homework for her]]. He then looks up all of her claims and finds evidence that she was deceiving the whole time. Unfazed, Lila admits everything and [[spoiler:reveals that Marinette wasn't the only one who knew [[CassandraTruth the truth]] about her, declaring Adrien to be her AccompliceByInaction]].
** ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'': Adrien not only refuses to help Marinette expose Lila, he personally supports and ''backs up'' several of Lila's claims, since he doesn't want to deal with the ''[[ItsAllAboutMe personal inconvenience]]'' of the truth coming out. This naturally [[HoistByHisOwnPetard comes back to bite him]] when the rest of the class learns about his BetrayalByInaction, making ''him'' the liar whose deception is revealed.
** ''Fanfic/LadyBugOut'':
*** Lila unintentionally exposes herself as a liar to her classmates in ''The Interview Ruse'' when she attempts to [[PlayingTheVictimCard play the victim]] and accuse Marinette and Ladybug of arranging that interview to try and humiliate her. Ivan [[SpottingTheThread points out]] that Marinette didn't ''know'' that Lila had been claiming to be involved with the blog, and her attempts to talk her way out of this only succeed in upsetting them even more. Only Alya stands by her, due to Lila claiming to have fallen out with Ladybug due to staying loyal to Alya and her Ladyblog.
*** Alya later realizes just how much of a habitual liar Lila is when she claims to have [[spoiler:been Rena Rouge -- ''Alya's'' former heroic identity]].
** In ''Fanfic/OfPatienceAndPettiness'', the truth about Lila is revealed to the whole class shortly after the events of "Chameleon", via Marinette 'apologizing' to her by calling Jagged Stone and asking him to sing the song that he'd supposedly written for her in front of the whole class.
** ''Fanfic/{{Shadows}}'': In addition to Lila's true nature getting exposed to her classmates, Cyril is also indirectly responsible for getting Lila expelled back in New York.
** In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/23586655 Snapped Wrist, Broken Lies]]'', Marinette accidentally breaks Lila's wrist when Lila tries to steal the lucky charm Adrien gave her. This gets Lila's mother called in since Lila will have to go to the hospital. Once they're in the same room, a subtle prod from Marinette starts Ms. Rossi and Principal Damocles comparing notes, and it doesn't take long for Lila's lies to unravel, dropping her into deep trouble.
** ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33339538/chapters/82797070 So you time travel to the future and your classmate gets punched...]]'' features Ms. Bustier's class getting catapulted twenty years into the future by the akuma Time-Turner, where they meet Marinette's daughter Emma and the future version of Chloé. Chloé shows them evidence of Lila's {{Celebrity Lie}}s; in the process, Rose reveals that she'd learned the truth from Prince Ali, but Alya [[CassandraTruth refused to believe her]], discouraging her from warning everybody else. Unfortunately, these revelations come too late to save Ms. Bustier and most of the class, as Lila's actions had already set LaserGuidedKarma in motion.
** The first act of ''Fanfic/TellingLiesNoMama''. Lila's stories and claims are brought into question by Chloé and Alya after she tries to frame Marinette for assaulting her. They poke holes in her stories and question how much water [[CelebrityLie her claims of friendship with various celebrities]] hold. But the final nail on the coffin is [[spoiler:her own mother, who shows up at school in a rage, having seen the interviews with Lila on the Ladyblog and being furious at her daughter for spreading lies and making her parents look bad. [[CallingTheYoungManOut She yells at Lila in front of the whole class, tearing apart all her lies and scolding her for letting them be posted on a public blog, jeopardizing her parents' jobs and reputations]]]].
** ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/22260466/chapters/53156809 A Very Jagged Takedown]]'' is a collection of one-shots that all revolve around the same premise: Jagged Stone is responsible for outing Lila as a ConsummateLiar.
*** "Dissonant Chord" has Jagged learn about Lila's lies and bullying while commissioning Marinette. He decides to make one of those falsehoods true by writing a song that, without naming names for legal reasons, calls out all of Lila's other lies. When Marinette's classmates listen to the song, it doesn't take long for them to figure out who it's talking about.
*** In "Career Day", Lila claims she's going to bring Jagged Stone in as her presenter for the titular event, intending to string the class along before claiming he had a schedule conflict. Marinette sees an opportunity and uses her actual connections to Jagged to bring him in as ''her'' presenter, with strict instructions to not say anything about Lila and just let his presence start the dominoes falling. While Jagged sticks to this, he can't resist making a pointed comment about how people like to make up lies and start rumors about him for attention, which clues in everyone who was still confused about how he made it to their classroom when Lila said he was out of the country.
*** "The Last Lie" features Lila claiming to know the designer who made a cool dragon-themed outfit for Jagged Stone's birthday, unaware that the designer was Marinette herself. All Marinette has to do is sit back and wait for Jagged to start bragging about who really made the clothes, which leaves Lila caught out with no way to recover.
** ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/21138575 Who You Know]]'' centers around Lila claiming that she [[CelebrityLie personally knows]] who the secretive fashion star MDC is, offering to arrange for Marinette and Alya to meet them. Her deception is revealed when MDC comes out as [[spoiler:Marinette Dupain-Cheng]]; a humiliated Alya then vows to ensure her true nature is exposed to the rest of the world.
** In [[https://sturchling.tumblr.com/post/682700949273346049/ this untitled one-shot]], Lila falsely claims to have helped Alya's parents commission a beautiful outfit from an Italian designer she knows. This [[StolenCreditBackfire backfires]] when Marlena and Otis promptly call her out, revealing that ''Marinette'' designed the dress.

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!!!''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug''
* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' canon Canon presents Lila Rossi as a CompulsiveLiar and ManipulativeBitch who routinely [[KarmaHoudini evades all consequences]] for her actions. As a result, it's a ''very'' common [[FandomSpecificPlot/MiraculousLadybug Fandom-Specific Plot]] for her deception to finally be exposed.
** ''[[Fanfic/BurnTheWitchMiraculousLadybug BURN * ''Fanfic/{{BURN THE WITCH]]'': WITCH|MiraculousLadybug}}'': After the events of "Chameleon", Marinette ''wanted'' to expose [[BitchInSheepsClothing Lila]], but Adrien convinced her to stop by reasoning that [[HoistByHisOwnPetard her lies would catch up to her eventually]] without their involvement. While he's ''technically'' correct, the story [[DeconstructionFic deconstructs this]]: Sure, Lila's lies caught up to her... but only after she'd done so much damage that the latest [[VillainOfTheWeek Akumatized villain]] is Witch Hunter, who wants to outright ''burn Lila at the stake'' for her crimes. And her many cruel actions have made most of the main characters susceptible to Witch Hunter's MoreThanMindControl which convinces them that burning Lila alive is the ''right'' thing to do.
** * ''Webcomic/FeralnetteAU'': In sketches for the series, Lila's deceptive nature is ultimately revealed by [[spoiler:her own inner voice, thanks to Lady Clarity's powers. Lila's ego is so immense that her inner voice gleefully brags about how tricking everyone and working with Hawkmoth, much to the horror of all present, including Lila herself]].
** * ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': {{Downplayed}}. As they get to know Ladybug better, the other heroes realize that she would ''never'' tell a civilian her SecretIdentity, much less let her talk about it in public. As more members of the class become temporary heroes, they subsequently realize the truth as well. Eventually, Marinette casually tells Lila that everybody save for Marc and possibly Ivan is aware that she's a liar, so there's really no need to keep up the charade. Lila assumes this is some kind of trick and ignores her.
** * ''Fanfic/{{I See What You Do Behind Closed Doors|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Max starts PullingTheThread on Lila's claims after Ladybug rejects her claims of [[CelebrityLie being best friends]], pointing out that [[HomeworkSlave Lila has him doing all her homework for her]]. He then looks up all of her claims and finds evidence that she was deceiving the whole time. Unfazed, Lila admits everything and [[spoiler:reveals that Marinette wasn't the only one who knew [[CassandraTruth the truth]] about her, declaring Adrien to be her AccompliceByInaction]].
** * ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'': Adrien not only refuses to help Marinette expose Lila, he personally supports and ''backs up'' several of Lila's claims, since he doesn't want to deal with the ''[[ItsAllAboutMe personal inconvenience]]'' of the truth coming out. This naturally [[HoistByHisOwnPetard comes back to bite him]] when the rest of the class learns about his BetrayalByInaction, making ''him'' the liar whose deception is revealed.
** * ''Fanfic/LadyBugOut'':
*** ** Lila unintentionally exposes herself as a liar to her classmates in ''The Interview Ruse'' when she attempts to [[PlayingTheVictimCard play the victim]] and accuse Marinette and Ladybug of arranging that interview to try and humiliate her. Ivan [[SpottingTheThread points out]] that Marinette didn't ''know'' that Lila had been claiming to be involved with the blog, and her attempts to talk her way out of this only succeed in upsetting them even more. Only Alya stands by her, due to Lila claiming to have fallen out with Ladybug due to staying loyal to Alya and her Ladyblog.
*** ** Alya later realizes just how much of a habitual liar Lila is when she claims to have [[spoiler:been Rena Rouge -- ''Alya's'' former heroic identity]].
** * In ''Fanfic/OfPatienceAndPettiness'', the truth about Lila is revealed to the whole class shortly after the events of "Chameleon", via Marinette 'apologizing' to her by calling Jagged Stone and asking him to sing the song that he'd supposedly written for her in front of the whole class.
** * ''Fanfic/{{Shadows}}'': In addition to Lila's true nature getting exposed to her classmates, Cyril is also indirectly responsible for getting Lila expelled back in New York.
** * In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/23586655 Snapped Wrist, Broken Lies]]'', Marinette accidentally breaks Lila's wrist when Lila tries to steal the lucky charm Adrien gave her. This gets Lila's mother called in since Lila will have to go to the hospital. Once they're in the same room, a subtle prod from Marinette starts Ms. Rossi and Principal Damocles comparing notes, and it doesn't take long for Lila's lies to unravel, dropping her into deep trouble.
** * ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33339538/chapters/82797070 So you time travel to the future and your classmate gets punched...]]'' features Ms. Bustier's class getting catapulted twenty years into the future by the akuma Time-Turner, where they meet Marinette's daughter Emma and the future version of Chloé. Chloé shows them evidence of Lila's {{Celebrity Lie}}s; in the process, Rose reveals that she'd learned the truth from Prince Ali, but Alya [[CassandraTruth refused to believe her]], discouraging her from warning everybody else. Unfortunately, these revelations come too late to save Ms. Bustier and most of the class, as Lila's actions had already set LaserGuidedKarma in motion.
** * The first act of ''Fanfic/TellingLiesNoMama''. Lila's stories and claims are brought into question by Chloé and Alya after she tries to frame Marinette for assaulting her. They poke holes in her stories and question how much water [[CelebrityLie her claims of friendship with various celebrities]] hold. But the final nail on the coffin is [[spoiler:her own mother, who shows up at school in a rage, having seen the interviews with Lila on the Ladyblog and being furious at her daughter for spreading lies and making her parents look bad. [[CallingTheYoungManOut She yells at Lila in front of the whole class, tearing apart all her lies and scolding her for letting them be posted on a public blog, jeopardizing her parents' jobs and reputations]]]].
** * ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/22260466/chapters/53156809 A Very Jagged Takedown]]'' is a collection of one-shots that all revolve around the same premise: Jagged Stone is responsible for outing Lila as a ConsummateLiar.
*** ** "Dissonant Chord" has Jagged learn about Lila's lies and bullying while commissioning Marinette. He decides to make one of those falsehoods true by writing a song that, without naming names for legal reasons, calls out all of Lila's other lies. When Marinette's classmates listen to the song, it doesn't take long for them to figure out who it's talking about.
*** ** In "Career Day", Lila claims she's going to bring Jagged Stone in as her presenter for the titular event, intending to string the class along before claiming he had a schedule conflict. Marinette sees an opportunity and uses her actual connections to Jagged to bring him in as ''her'' presenter, with strict instructions to not say anything about Lila and just let his presence start the dominoes falling. While Jagged sticks to this, he can't resist making a pointed comment about how people like to make up lies and start rumors about him for attention, which clues in everyone who was still confused about how he made it to their classroom when Lila said he was out of the country.
*** ** "The Last Lie" features Lila claiming to know the designer who made a cool dragon-themed outfit for Jagged Stone's birthday, unaware that the designer was Marinette herself. All Marinette has to do is sit back and wait for Jagged to start bragging about who really made the clothes, which leaves Lila caught out with no way to recover.
** * ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/21138575 Who You Know]]'' centers around Lila claiming that she [[CelebrityLie personally knows]] who the secretive fashion star MDC is, offering to arrange for Marinette and Alya to meet them. Her deception is revealed when MDC comes out as [[spoiler:Marinette Dupain-Cheng]]; a humiliated Alya then vows to ensure her true nature is exposed to the rest of the world.
** * In [[https://sturchling.tumblr.com/post/682700949273346049/ this untitled one-shot]], Lila falsely claims to have helped Alya's parents commission a beautiful outfit from an Italian designer she knows. This [[StolenCreditBackfire backfires]] when Marlena and Otis promptly call her out, revealing that ''Marinette'' designed the dress.dress.

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* In ''Fanfic/OneWayLeftToGo'', Buster worries that if Meena impresses Florence and successfully manages to launch a solo career, that will lead to the whole troupe going their separate ways. So he convinces Porsha to sabotage her run-through. Afterwards, Porsha is ridden with guilt and soon revealed what happened to Ash and Rosita. Ash then furiously confronts Buster about this in front of everyone else, spurring an argument between Buster and Meena that results in [[spoiler:the stage collapsing]].
* By the end of Chapter 30 of ''Fanfic/BecomingTheMaskTrollhunters'', Jim's troll allies, [[spoiler:adoptive]] mother, and human friends have all found out that he's [[spoiler:a Changeling]].

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* In ''Fanfic/OneWayLeftToGo'', Buster worries that if Meena impresses Florence and successfully manages to launch a solo career, that will lead to the whole troupe going their separate ways. So he convinces Porsha to sabotage her run-through. Afterwards, Porsha is ridden with guilt and soon revealed reveals what happened to Ash and Rosita. Ash then furiously confronts Buster about this in front of everyone else, spurring an argument between Buster and Meena that results in [[spoiler:the stage collapsing]].
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* By the end of Chapter 30 of ''Fanfic/BecomingTheMaskTrollhunters'', ''Fanfic/{{Becoming The Mask|Trollhunters}}'', Jim's troll allies, [[spoiler:adoptive]] mother, and human friends have all found out that he's [[spoiler:a Changeling]].
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* In ''WesternAnimation/ReturnToNeverland'', Jane gets thrown under the bus by Captain Hook once he revealed to Peter and the Lost Boys that she originally was going to sell them out to Hook as her way back to London, which of course, [[WhatTheHellHero Peter's not all that happy about]]. Unlike most examples, however, neither Peter nor the Lost Boys hold it against her when she comes to the rescue since it was probably redeeming enough that she even bothered. [[spoiler: And when Tinkerbell shows up alive and well, that probably destroyed any doubt they had if they did]].
* Refreshingly Averted in ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle''. After Pinkie tells Chanticleer that Goldie was supposed to keep him from finding out about his friends trying to get him to return home, you'd expect Chanticleer to get angry or reject her. But he quickly takes it in stride, instead focusing on how they can both rescue them.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/ReturnToNeverland'', Jane gets thrown under the bus by Captain Hook once he revealed to Peter and the Lost Boys that she originally was going to sell them out to Hook as her way back to London, which of course, [[WhatTheHellHero Peter's not all that happy about]]. Unlike most examples, however, neither Peter nor the Lost Boys hold it against her when she comes to the rescue since it was probably redeeming enough that she even bothered. [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And when Tinkerbell shows up alive and well, that probably destroyed any doubt they had if they did]].
* Refreshingly Averted averted in ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle''. After Pinkie tells Chanticleer that Goldie was supposed to keep him from finding out about his friends trying to get him to return home, you'd expect Chanticleer to get angry or reject her. But he quickly takes it in stride, instead focusing on how they can both rescue them.



* In ''Film/{{Housesitter}}'', Gwen claims that she's Newton's to get away with squatting in his empty house, resulting in a SnowballLie that involves the entire town. Gavin ends up going along with the lie because it makes an old girlfriend jealous. [[spoiler: Averted when it looks like the lie is finally going to be revealed, but it isn't. The relationship ends up becoming real, and they never bother to reveal that it was originally made up.]]

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* In ''Film/{{Housesitter}}'', Gwen claims that she's Newton's to get away with squatting in his empty house, resulting in a SnowballLie that involves the entire town. Gavin ends up going along with the lie because it makes an old girlfriend jealous. [[spoiler: Averted [[spoiler:Averted when it looks like the lie is finally going to be revealed, but it isn't. The relationship ends up becoming real, and they never bother to reveal that it was originally made up.]]



* In ''Film/PokemonDetectivePikachu'', this is {{Inverted}} in the second act, which ends with Pikachu seemingly getting revealed to have been Mewtwo's accomplice before losing his memories. But Tim and Pikachu only saw a portion of the recreation of events before being cut off, and while Pikachu believes that [[ItsAllMyFault he himself is to blame for Harry's supposed death]], Tim reasonably believes that there must be more to the story than that. Turns out he's right, as [[spoiler: Harry and Pikachu were trying to rescue Mewtwo from Howard after learning they had been tricked into tracking him down for the villain, and Mewtwo had placed Harry's consciousness inside Pikachu's body to allow the mortally wounded human to heal, as gratitude for rescuing him.]]

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* In ''Film/PokemonDetectivePikachu'', this is {{Inverted}} in the second act, which ends with Pikachu seemingly getting revealed to have been Mewtwo's accomplice before losing his memories. But Tim and Pikachu only saw a portion of the recreation of events before being cut off, and while Pikachu believes that [[ItsAllMyFault he himself is to blame for Harry's supposed death]], Tim reasonably believes that there must be more to the story than that. Turns out he's right, as [[spoiler: Harry [[spoiler:Harry and Pikachu were trying to rescue Mewtwo from Howard after learning they had been tricked into tracking him down for the villain, and Mewtwo had placed Harry's consciousness inside Pikachu's body to allow the mortally wounded human to heal, as gratitude for rescuing him.]]



* In the third part of ''Literature/SkippyDies'', after he starts acting out in school as a response to Skippy's death, [[spoiler: Ruprecht's]] parents come to visit the school. This reveals that [[spoiler: nearly all of Ruprecht's grandiose claims about himself were false-- his parents are plumbers, not famous explorers, and he transferred schools due to a [[RagingStiffie embarrassing gym class incident]]. This cascades into a reveal that Dennis faked the success of Ruprecht's portal and that nearly all Ruprecht's brilliant inventions were likely fake as well.]]

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* In the third part of ''Literature/SkippyDies'', after he starts acting out in school as a response to Skippy's death, [[spoiler: Ruprecht's]] [[spoiler:Ruprecht's]] parents come to visit the school. This reveals that [[spoiler: nearly [[spoiler:nearly all of Ruprecht's grandiose claims about himself were false-- his parents are plumbers, not famous explorers, and he transferred schools due to a [[RagingStiffie embarrassing gym class incident]]. This cascades into a reveal that Dennis faked the success of Ruprecht's portal and that nearly all Ruprecht's brilliant inventions were likely fake as well.]]



* In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyTrialsAndTribulations'', it's revealed that Phoenix once dated a woman, Dahlia Hawthorne, who only pretended to love him in order to get back [[spoiler: a bottle of poison]] that she'd planted on him. But even after that truth comes out, Phoenix insists that the woman he dated could never have said or done the things that Dahlia did. In the final case of the game, [[spoiler: her twin sister, Iris, confesses that she was the person he dated and that she posed as Dahlia to get the evidence back. And she did love him. Out of shame, she'd decided to disappear from his life after Dahlia's arrest rather than confess what she did.]] Rather than get angry, Phoenix seems more relieved to know the truth than anything else.

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* In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyTrialsAndTribulations'', it's revealed that Phoenix once dated a woman, Dahlia Hawthorne, who only pretended to love him in order to get back [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a bottle of poison]] that she'd planted on him. But even after that truth comes out, Phoenix insists that the woman he dated could never have said or done the things that Dahlia did. In the final case of the game, [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her twin sister, Iris, confesses that she was the person he dated and that she posed as Dahlia to get the evidence back. And she did love him. Out of shame, she'd decided to disappear from his life after Dahlia's arrest rather than confess what she did.]] Rather than get angry, Phoenix seems more relieved to know the truth than anything else.



* Used to heartbreaking effect in the season 2 finale of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'', [[WhamEpisode "True Colors"]]. In it, [[spoiler: the tritagonist Marcy]] has her own secret sadistically weaponized by [[spoiler: King Andrias,]] who reveals [[spoiler: to Anne and Sasha that Marcy never intended for the group to ever get home. She only helped them reassemble the incredibly powerful, incredibly dangerous DismantledMacguffin for newly-revealed BigBad King Andrias, so she could continue to go on otherworldly adventures with her friends, "forever and ever".]] Needless to say, considering the hellish environment [[EverythingTryingToKillYou Amphibia]] tends to be, as well as holding their lives in her hands without consent, neither of them took it very well.
-->'''[[spoiler: Marcy]]:''' I just... didn't want to be alone.\\
'''[[spoiler: Andrias]]:''' Well, I guess that's what you get for pouring your heart out to me over [[VariantChess Flipwart.]]

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* Used to heartbreaking effect in the season 2 finale of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'', [[WhamEpisode "True Colors"]]. In it, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the tritagonist Marcy]] has her own secret sadistically weaponized by [[spoiler: King [[spoiler:King Andrias,]] who reveals [[spoiler: to [[spoiler:to Anne and Sasha that Marcy never intended for the group to ever get home. She only helped them reassemble the incredibly powerful, incredibly dangerous DismantledMacguffin for newly-revealed BigBad King Andrias, so she could continue to go on otherworldly adventures with her friends, "forever and ever".]] Needless to say, considering the hellish environment [[EverythingTryingToKillYou Amphibia]] tends to be, as well as holding their lives in her hands without consent, neither of them took it very well.
-->'''[[spoiler: Marcy]]:''' -->'''[[spoiler:Marcy]]:''' I just... didn't want to be alone.\\
'''[[spoiler: Andrias]]:''' '''[[spoiler:Andrias]]:''' Well, I guess that's what you get for pouring your heart out to me over [[VariantChess Flipwart.]]



** Tragically played straight in "The Secrets of Castle [=McDuck=]!", where Dewey is forced to confess that he had been searching for [[spoiler: the triplet's mother]] since the start of the series, having left them out of the loop specifically because he didn't want to get their hopes up if he hit a dead end. Huey and especially Louie are utterly devastated that their brother had any information about their mother and would keep such a secret from them.
** "The Town Where Everyone Was Nice!" subverts this when Donald reunites with his old college band, ''WesternAnimation/TheThreeCaballeros''. Both Jose Carioca and Panchito Pistoles are filthy rich, whereas Donald (after years of failed jobs due to being BornUnlucky) is currently a squatter at his uncle's mansion. So, he convinces a reluctant Scrooge to act as if HE's the owner of [=McDuck=] Enterprises for a time, but he eventually fesses up that he's flat broke. The others are initially prepared to goad him over this...[[spoiler: until it's revealed they too are still losers, with Jose being stuck as a flight attendant and Panchito playing at children's birthday parties (and not very successfully it seems). The three then quickly realize they're still very much the same kids from college.]]
** "Let's Get Dangerous!" actually turns this trope on the villain, [[spoiler: Bradford Buzzard, the head of Scrooge's own Board of Directors and the chairman of F.O.W.L.]]. After getting kidnapped and betrayed by Taurus Bulba, [[spoiler: Bradford]] tries to hide an attempted extraction from the triplets, only to go on a MotiveRant about why [[spoiler: he feels the [=McDuck=] family's adventures are putting the world into too much chaos]] and make the kids suspicious of him. He just keeps [[DiggingYourselfDeeper digging himself deeper]] until the kids find out exactly who he is, leading him to [[spoiler: toss them into another dimension, and reveal what kind of a frightening force the [=McDucks=] will be forced to deal with.]]

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** Tragically played straight in "The Secrets of Castle [=McDuck=]!", where Dewey is forced to confess that he had been searching for [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the triplet's mother]] since the start of the series, having left them out of the loop specifically because he didn't want to get their hopes up if he hit a dead end. Huey and especially Louie are utterly devastated that their brother had any information about their mother and would keep such a secret from them.
** "The Town Where Everyone Was Nice!" subverts this when Donald reunites with his old college band, ''WesternAnimation/TheThreeCaballeros''. Both Jose Carioca and Panchito Pistoles are filthy rich, whereas Donald (after years of failed jobs due to being BornUnlucky) is currently a squatter at his uncle's mansion. So, he convinces a reluctant Scrooge to act as if HE's the owner of [=McDuck=] Enterprises for a time, but he eventually fesses up that he's flat broke. The others are initially prepared to goad him over this...[[spoiler: until [[spoiler:until it's revealed they too are still losers, with Jose being stuck as a flight attendant and Panchito playing at children's birthday parties (and not very successfully it seems). The three then quickly realize they're still very much the same kids from college.]]
** "Let's Get Dangerous!" actually turns this trope on the villain, [[spoiler: Bradford [[spoiler:Bradford Buzzard, the head of Scrooge's own Board of Directors and the chairman of F.O.W.L.]]. After getting kidnapped and betrayed by Taurus Bulba, [[spoiler: Bradford]] [[spoiler:Bradford]] tries to hide an attempted extraction from the triplets, only to go on a MotiveRant about why [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he feels the [=McDuck=] family's adventures are putting the world into too much chaos]] and make the kids suspicious of him. He just keeps [[DiggingYourselfDeeper digging himself deeper]] until the kids find out exactly who he is, leading him to [[spoiler: toss [[spoiler:toss them into another dimension, and reveal what kind of a frightening force the [=McDucks=] will be forced to deal with.]]
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* In ''Film/{{Airheads}}'' There's two unique takes on this trope. The first is when Chazz is forced to reveal he was a Dungeons and Dragons playing geek in High School. But that leads to an "I am Spartacus" moment as other rockers reveal they too were also geeks, and his popularity is maintained. The second occurs when one of the Lone Rangers' guns is broken by a shutting door, resulting in their ruse being revealed, as they were merely toy guns. Thankfully this doesn't last long, as they immediately end up with a real machine gun, thanks to one of the supporting characters, thus maintaining the siege.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/OverTheHedge'' the trope is expressed by RJ's plan to pillage suburban food to feed Vincent the bear, whose food pile he accidentally destroyed. Later, while arguing with Verne over a can of Spuddies in Gladys' pantry, RJ snaps and [[AccidentalPublicConfession angrily and accidentally exposes his ruse to Verne and the others]].

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* In ''WesternAnimation/OverTheHedge'' the trope is expressed by RJ's plan to pillage suburban food to feed Vincent the bear, whose food pile he accidentally destroyed. He finds Verne and the woodland animals and decides to use them to help him collect food for Vincent while lying that he's helping them collect food for the winter. Later, while arguing with Verne over a can of Spuddies in Gladys' pantry, RJ snaps and [[AccidentalPublicConfession angrily and accidentally exposes his ruse to Verne and the others]].
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* Though the trope itself is OlderThanDirt, the trope title is at least partly cemented here ''vis a vis'' ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' and other videos by Creator/DougWalker, where Doug lists it as number 2 on his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyQwP-32I9U#t=14m43s "Top Ten Worst Clichés".]] In other videos, he notes that he absolutely ''hates'' this type of plot for creating weak drama and very rarely sees a movie where he thinks it works (''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' and ''WesternAnimation/Madagascar3EuropesMostWanted'' being notable exceptions).

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* Though the trope itself is OlderThanDirt, the trope title is at least partly cemented here ''vis a vis'' ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' and other videos by Creator/DougWalker, where Doug lists it as number 2 on his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyQwP-32I9U#t=14m43s "Top Ten Worst Clichés".]] In other videos, he notes that he absolutely ''hates'' this type of plot for creating weak drama and very rarely sees a movie where he thinks it works (''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' (''WesternAnimation/{{How to Train Your Dragon|2010}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/Madagascar3EuropesMostWanted'' being notable exceptions).

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