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** Spider-man's Avengers membership no doubt gave him access to the appropriate intel or allowed him to learn it from one of the other Avengers.
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** Spider-man's Avengers membership no doubt gave him access to the appropriate intel or allowed him to learn it from one of the other Avengers.Avengers.
* It's been a while since I read the comics, but I seem to recall the radiation "shelters" at sites like the gamma bomb test just being ditches in the ground. How does hiding in a ditch protect someone from gamma rays, which would presumably go "downhill" the way other energies like heat would? Shouldn't the shelters be lead-lined bunkers or something like that?
* It's been a while since I read the comics, but I seem to recall the radiation "shelters" at sites like the gamma bomb test just being ditches in the ground. How does hiding in a ditch protect someone from gamma rays, which would presumably go "downhill" the way other energies like heat would? Shouldn't the shelters be lead-lined bunkers or something like that?
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* Regarding Ross's attempt to capture Bruce at Culver University, why did he order such a horribly un-stealthy plan? The general certainly prepared in terms of weaponry for a Hulk encounter, but not for trying to avoid the Hulk at all. If he was trying to capture Bruce quickly and quietly, wouldn't it have been a lot smarter for him to send an undercover team posing as teachers/students to take him by surprise? If Bruce struggles, they could remind him that he's in a building full of innocent civilians and thus make him unwilling to transform. Then they could sedate him to take him out of the school and to a secure site. Even if Ross's "send ALL the soldiers!!" plan had worked, he would have still had to deal with the publicity of soldiers rushing through the school and jeeps smashing through parked cars.
** "Make him unwilling to transform" is meaningless. Bruce is '''always''' unwilling to transform. And you're presuming that Ross knows intimately what makes Bruce transform--all he likely knows is that when Bruce is mad or agitated, he turns into a big green monster. The plan seemed to be to throw the gas in and sedate him before he could do anything.
** Ross said himself in Brazil that Bruce wants to be left alone. He also saw in the chase that it took a relatively long time for Bruce to transform and he ended up being forced to. That's a hint that with enough speed and stealth, they could quietly sedate Bruce rather than create a situation where he's guaranteed to be agitated.
** Just because we saw it clearly doesn't mean Ross was able to put the same things together just as clearly. Remember also that your knowledge of what seems logical is tainted by the additional information you have that he doesn't. It's also not taking into account that a man whose nickname is "Thunderbolt" is probably not a model of self-restraint and subtlety anyway. He's doing what his character always has done... poking a sleeping dragon in the eye and saying "Hey. Quit it."
** General Ross's goal was to take out Banner before he hulked out. Presumably he brought all the extra artillery just in case, and it turns out he needed it, because (as he mentions) "someone showed their hand early".
** Blonsky mentions the need for heavy firepower after the mission in Brazil. Ross planned for Banner to be sedated and not have a hulk out at all, but someone jumped the gun. The plan was probably similar to the one in NYC, hit Banner with a traq dart and rush in and restrain him.
*** Ross angrily demanded to know who jumped the gun; the ''actual'' plan apparently involved getting snipers in place to tranq Banner from a safe distance. The military might was meant to only be back-up in case something went wrong with Plan A.
** If capturing the Hulk were a SHIELD mission, Nick Fury, Phil Coulson or somebody would probably had Black Widow sneak up behind Banner and taze him, or have Hawkeye snipe him from like a mile away. But then, SHIELD is a spy agency, specializing in stealthy methods in accomplishing their objectives. Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross is an Army general who probably earned his bombastic nickname by using blockbusting "shock and awe" type tactics to obliterate the foe.
*** Given that they use an electric shock to ''induce'' a hulk-out when testing the cure, tazing him probably wouldn't have worked out too well.
** Ross has a deep-seated irrational hatred for Banner '''and''' The Hulk and has a tendency to not think things through. He even later gave a defective copy of Captain America's serum (the one and only good copy of Captain America's SuperSerum was used on him and the scientist died shortly afterwards) on a soldier with borderline personality problems already, and was shocked when he went rogue and became The Abomination.
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* As an added issue, has Ross ever heard the words "posse comitatus"? That's the name of a law that states that the US Military is explicitly prohibited from acting as a police unit, which is precisely what he is doing by declaring Banner to be a murderer and sending in Army units to arrest him (This is setting aside whether or not his declaring Banner to be government property violates the involuntary servitude section of the 13th Amendment). The NYPD would have been legally entitled (And technically required) to arrest ''him'' for trying to arrest Banner himself rather than leaving that job up to the police or FBI. Not to mention the appalling diplomatic incident he caused by sending a commando unit into a friendly country which has had an active extradition agreement with the US for over 40 years to kidnap a fugitive without even trying to go through the proper extradition procedure.
** This may be the cause for his [[KickedUpstairs "promotion" to Secretary of State]] in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.
** There is a similar, more detailed discussion on the Captain America: Civil War headscratchers. Though it boils down to though we never see him get authorization to operate stateside or in Brazil. But both are public acts (Ross has an US Army command vehicle in Brazil) and he has help from local authorities (There's a Brazilian soldier in the command vehicle with him, plus the FBI and NYPD help stateside) more then likely he had the proper authority but the movie doesn't get bogged down by having scenes showing that permission being granted. And remember, Banner has been on the run for a few years when the movie starts. Any authority to operate in the US would have been granted before the movie started.
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* Why are the soldiers in this movie wearing BDU instead of ACU? The U.S. Army retired the BDU entirely before this movie was released, and it seems unlikely that the ACU would be unavailable to the studio, or that General Ross and his forces would be using uniforms that were on the verge of being retired. It makes even less sense if this movie is supposed to take place (at most) a few years before ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', where we see soldiers in ACU during the battle of New York.
** Because ''The Avengers'' was [[BackedByThePentagon Backed By The National Guard]] and ''The Incredible Hulk'' wasn't.
** Why would it make ''less'' sense for the ''earlier'' movie to use the ''earlier'' uniforms? Simple answer: In the MCU, the military was still using BDU at the time of ''Hulk'' and switched to ACU in time for Avengers.
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* Why keep Bruce in the dark about re-creating the Captain America program, especially since Cap himself was considered a national hero and an unqualified success story? It's not like he would have any moral quandary about creating the next great hero, right? He doesn't know how the serum works, so he doesn't have any reason to believe that there would be any negative consequences to creating it (although we, the audience, know that there can be). Also, if you want a scientist to create a SuperSoldier serum, then telling him that he's supposed to be creating something besides a SuperSoldier serum is a terrible way to get results.
** Bruce is smart enough to realize that he's not creating the next great hero, he'd be creating the next great ''weapon''. As for no reason to believe any negative consequences? The Red Skull is plenty of reason to believe there's negative consequences to doing an imperfect serum.
** Okay, fair enough, but the fact remains that if you tell him that he's supposed to be working on a defense against radiation, then he's going to give you a defense against radiation, as opposed to the SuperSerum you were hoping for.
** Given Ross' MoreDakka approach to hunting for the Hulk, thinking things through doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
** The best thing to do is just pay for a guy who'd do it anyway.
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* Why did they give Emil Blonsky the second drug that led to his transformation? The first drug was producing amazing results already, e.g., sprinting across a field with no fatigue when compared to fellow soldiers, going toe-to-toe with the hulk in melee combat, albeit in a dodge rich fashion, etc.
** Because they wanted to "improve" on the original results. And his actual transformation happens because Blonsky threatens the doc into giving it to him, not because of an injection that the military gave him.
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* I know about the novelization calling him that, but why do people treat the idea that a grown white man was playing a Korean child prodigy as totally believable? That's like saying the cop who Enver Gjokaj played in the Avengers is Alex Wilder of the Runaways or something. I just want to know why the MCU trivia page and Wiki/TheOtherWiki cite it as a fact.
** Because the novelization is the only place that character is named. As for the difference between the character in the comics and the actor, many times the race, age, or gender of characters are changed for adaptations for a variety of reasons.
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!The 2008 movie
[[folder: Ross's lack of subtlety]]
* Regarding Ross's attempt to capture Bruce at Culver University, why did he order such a horribly un-stealthy plan? The general certainly prepared in terms of weaponry for a Hulk encounter, but not for trying to avoid the Hulk at all. If he was trying to capture Bruce quickly and quietly, wouldn't it have been a lot smarter for him to send an undercover team posing as teachers/students to take him by surprise? If Bruce struggles, they could remind him that he's in a building full of innocent civilians and thus make him unwilling to transform. Then they could sedate him to take him out of the school and to a secure site. Even if Ross's "send ALL the soldiers!!" plan had worked, he would have still had to deal with the publicity of soldiers rushing through the school and jeeps smashing through parked cars.
** "Make him unwilling to transform" is meaningless. Bruce is '''always''' unwilling to transform. And you're presuming that Ross knows intimately what makes Bruce transform--all he likely knows is that when Bruce is mad or agitated, he turns into a big green monster. The plan seemed to be to throw the gas in and sedate him before he could do anything.
** Ross said himself in Brazil that Bruce wants to be left alone. He also saw in the chase that it took a relatively long time for Bruce to transform and he ended up being forced to. That's a hint that with enough speed and stealth, they could quietly sedate Bruce rather than create a situation where he's guaranteed to be agitated.
** Just because we saw it clearly doesn't mean Ross was able to put the same things together just as clearly. Remember also that your knowledge of what seems logical is tainted by the additional information you have that he doesn't. It's also not taking into account that a man whose nickname is "Thunderbolt" is probably not a model of self-restraint and subtlety anyway. He's doing what his character always has done... poking a sleeping dragon in the eye and saying "Hey. Quit it."
** General Ross's goal was to take out Banner before he hulked out. Presumably he brought all the extra artillery just in case, and it turns out he needed it, because (as he mentions) "someone showed their hand early".
** Blonsky mentions the need for heavy firepower after the mission in Brazil. Ross planned for Banner to be sedated and not have a hulk out at all, but someone jumped the gun. The plan was probably similar to the one in NYC, hit Banner with a traq dart and rush in and restrain him.
*** Ross angrily demanded to know who jumped the gun; the ''actual'' plan apparently involved getting snipers in place to tranq Banner from a safe distance. The military might was meant to only be back-up in case something went wrong with Plan A.
** If capturing the Hulk were a SHIELD mission, Nick Fury, Phil Coulson or somebody would probably had Black Widow sneak up behind Banner and taze him, or have Hawkeye snipe him from like a mile away. But then, SHIELD is a spy agency, specializing in stealthy methods in accomplishing their objectives. Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross is an Army general who probably earned his bombastic nickname by using blockbusting "shock and awe" type tactics to obliterate the foe.
*** Given that they use an electric shock to ''induce'' a hulk-out when testing the cure, tazing him probably wouldn't have worked out too well.
** Ross has a deep-seated irrational hatred for Banner '''and''' The Hulk and has a tendency to not think things through. He even later gave a defective copy of Captain America's serum (the one and only good copy of Captain America's SuperSerum was used on him and the scientist died shortly afterwards) on a soldier with borderline personality problems already, and was shocked when he went rogue and became The Abomination.
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[[folder:Military as police]]
* As an added issue, has Ross ever heard the words "posse comitatus"? That's the name of a law that states that the US Military is explicitly prohibited from acting as a police unit, which is precisely what he is doing by declaring Banner to be a murderer and sending in Army units to arrest him (This is setting aside whether or not his declaring Banner to be government property violates the involuntary servitude section of the 13th Amendment). The NYPD would have been legally entitled (And technically required) to arrest ''him'' for trying to arrest Banner himself rather than leaving that job up to the police or FBI. Not to mention the appalling diplomatic incident he caused by sending a commando unit into a friendly country which has had an active extradition agreement with the US for over 40 years to kidnap a fugitive without even trying to go through the proper extradition procedure.
** This may be the cause for his [[KickedUpstairs "promotion" to Secretary of State]] in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.
** There is a similar, more detailed discussion on the Captain America: Civil War headscratchers. Though it boils down to though we never see him get authorization to operate stateside or in Brazil. But both are public acts (Ross has an US Army command vehicle in Brazil) and he has help from local authorities (There's a Brazilian soldier in the command vehicle with him, plus the FBI and NYPD help stateside) more then likely he had the proper authority but the movie doesn't get bogged down by having scenes showing that permission being granted. And remember, Banner has been on the run for a few years when the movie starts. Any authority to operate in the US would have been granted before the movie started.
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[[folder: Anachronistic uniforms]]
* Why are the soldiers in this movie wearing BDU instead of ACU? The U.S. Army retired the BDU entirely before this movie was released, and it seems unlikely that the ACU would be unavailable to the studio, or that General Ross and his forces would be using uniforms that were on the verge of being retired. It makes even less sense if this movie is supposed to take place (at most) a few years before ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', where we see soldiers in ACU during the battle of New York.
** Because ''The Avengers'' was [[BackedByThePentagon Backed By The National Guard]] and ''The Incredible Hulk'' wasn't.
** Why would it make ''less'' sense for the ''earlier'' movie to use the ''earlier'' uniforms? Simple answer: In the MCU, the military was still using BDU at the time of ''Hulk'' and switched to ACU in time for Avengers.
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[[folder: Not telling Bruce that he was working on re-creating Captain America.]]
* Why keep Bruce in the dark about re-creating the Captain America program, especially since Cap himself was considered a national hero and an unqualified success story? It's not like he would have any moral quandary about creating the next great hero, right? He doesn't know how the serum works, so he doesn't have any reason to believe that there would be any negative consequences to creating it (although we, the audience, know that there can be). Also, if you want a scientist to create a SuperSoldier serum, then telling him that he's supposed to be creating something besides a SuperSoldier serum is a terrible way to get results.
** Bruce is smart enough to realize that he's not creating the next great hero, he'd be creating the next great ''weapon''. As for no reason to believe any negative consequences? The Red Skull is plenty of reason to believe there's negative consequences to doing an imperfect serum.
** Okay, fair enough, but the fact remains that if you tell him that he's supposed to be working on a defense against radiation, then he's going to give you a defense against radiation, as opposed to the SuperSerum you were hoping for.
** Given Ross' MoreDakka approach to hunting for the Hulk, thinking things through doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
** The best thing to do is just pay for a guy who'd do it anyway.
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[[folder: The Abomination]]
* Why did they give Emil Blonsky the second drug that led to his transformation? The first drug was producing amazing results already, e.g., sprinting across a field with no fatigue when compared to fellow soldiers, going toe-to-toe with the hulk in melee combat, albeit in a dodge rich fashion, etc.
** Because they wanted to "improve" on the original results. And his actual transformation happens because Blonsky threatens the doc into giving it to him, not because of an injection that the military gave him.
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[[folder: Why do people think Martin Starr played Amadeus Cho]]
* I know about the novelization calling him that, but why do people treat the idea that a grown white man was playing a Korean child prodigy as totally believable? That's like saying the cop who Enver Gjokaj played in the Avengers is Alex Wilder of the Runaways or something. I just want to know why the MCU trivia page and Wiki/TheOtherWiki cite it as a fact.
** Because the novelization is the only place that character is named. As for the difference between the character in the comics and the actor, many times the race, age, or gender of characters are changed for adaptations for a variety of reasons.
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** Hasn't her hair always been
** "Make him unwilling to transform" is meaningless. Bruce is '''always''' unwilling to transform. And you're presuming that Ross knows intimately
** Betty's hair is
** Ross said himself in Brazil that Bruce wants to be left alone. He also saw in the chase that it took a relatively long time for Bruce to transform and he ended up being forced to. That's a hint that with enough speed and stealth, they could quietly sedate Bruce rather than create a situation where he's guaranteed to be agitated.
** Just because we saw it clearly
* Why doesn't
** For that matter he could probably make a suit like that himself if he had the resources. Likely it has to do with iconography. Hulk in ripped pants is more iconic than Hulk in anything else.
** In a recent storyline, Banner was
* Something the Hulk pointed out in ComicBook/FearItself; why didn't Banner just
** Without knowing the nature of the bomb, it's possible once the countdown reached a certain point it couldn't be stopped. If that seems like a serious design flaw, well, the military never did put Banner's Gamma Bomb into mass production, did they?
** Official explanation is that the Hulk wanted to be let out, so Banner wasn't thinking clearly.
** If this troper remembers correctly banner did tell his assistant to stop the countdown but said assistant was a spy and was hoping the bomb would kill Banner so he couldn't produce anymore weapons like the gamma bomb
*** This troper is correct. Banner told his assistant, Ivan, to stop the countdown, but Ivan was actually a Soviet spy that
* Has The Punisher ever met Hulk?
** They met during the David-Keown era. The Hulk had returned to Vegas for a funeral, and Castle was there hunting a gangster. They had a brief fight before teaming up. (The fight consisted of the Punisher riddling Hulk's tailored suit with bullets, before the Hulk knocked him out with one finger.)
** While he didn't meet the Hulk in the storyline that comes to mind, he did meet the ComicBook/RedHulk, and tried to attack him with a knife. I'm going to repeat that. [[TooDumbToLive He attacked a Hulk with a knife.]] Such an act of supreme stupidity leads me to believe he's either never met the Hulk or that if he has, the meeting resulted in such extreme brain damage that he
** It isn't TooDumbToLive, It just shows that The Punisher isn't scared of anybody.
*** Not being afraid of a super who has spent the last few months laying waste to some of the most powerful people in the world when you're a BadassNormal who isn't Batman with a week of preptime counts as being too dumb to live.
** They team up during Jason Aaron's run on the Hulk, for all of one issue, where they take down a cartel of drug-dealing dog-men south of the boarder.
* I always wondered why Hulk refers to everyone else as *insert insult here* humans, when he himself is technically still a human being. I assume it's because subconsciously he knows that everyone else considers him nothing but a monster, basically everything the opposite of human, but it's just something that bugged me, regardless of it being one of his catchphrases.
** Hulk sees himself as completely distinct from Banner. Banner is human, but the Hulk sees himself as something else, something considerably above "human". It's
*** To quote the
* Bruce charges into the Hulk if he's angry, injured, or outraged--all adrenaline reactions. What happens if Bruce has a panic attack?
**
** Blonsky mentions the need for heavy firepower
** He probably
* I know we just take it at face value that Hulk becomes more powerful the angrier he becomes and
** Same way most superpowers work - NoConservationOfEnergy.
* The storyline that reveals to us that Dr. Banner's father was abusive as a child has the father say that he knew, "what monster he (Bruce Banner) would become". This implies that the Hulk already existed inside of Banner and
** There was a storyline a few years ago (Tempest Fugit, issues 77-81, written by Peter David) that revealed that Hulk was Banner's imaginary friend when he was a child. Banner's aunt (who raised him) believed it to be gone, but the flashbacks in the story show Banner talking to Hulk while in high school. At one point, Hulk took over Banner's body and tried to set up an explosion to destroy the school, but Banner stopped him in time and it was revealed that the bomb never worked because of an error in calculation. In the end, it is revealed that General Ross recruited Banner because he was impressed by the bomb.
** Also, it's stated the reason Brian Banner thought Bruce was a monster is because Brian was in an accident at work involving radiation not long before Rebecca Banner got pregnant, and he never believed it when the doctors said baby Bruce was fine. (From Hulk #312.)
*** Also, Brian believed he himself had the "Banner monster" gene, and that he passed it onto Bruce. The "monster gene" is, according to Brian, why he's abusive. Bruce Banner (senior) had it and was abusive to his wife and three children: Elaine, Susan, and Brian; and Brian had it, so Brian reasoned the Bruce would have it too.
* How is it that the Hulk's pants stay on when he turns green, when the rest of his clothes have completely torn apart? I realize that there isn't a terribly large demographic of those who want to see the Hulk nude, but do they ever give an in-universe reason?
** Maybe the pants are nylon?
*** I think someone once got a no-prize by explaining why the Hulks pants turned purple even when the pants Banner was wearing were a different color. The Gamma radiation released by the transformation dyes the fabric. Maybe it also makes it stretchy?
** The Ed Norton movie sorta hints at this- we see Banner actively buying pants that are way too big for him and stretchy besides.
** If capturing
*** Given that they use an electric shock to ''induce'' a hulk-out when testing the cure, tazing him probably wouldn't have worked out too well.
** Ross has a deep-seated irrational hatred for Banner '''and''' The Hulk and has a tendency to not think things through. He even later gave a defective copy of Captain America's serum (the one and only good copy of Captain America's SuperSerum was used on him and the scientist died shortly afterwards) on a soldier with borderline personality problems already, and was shocked
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* As an added issue, has Ross ever heard
** Their have been
** This may be the cause for his [[KickedUpstairs "promotion" to Secretary
** There is
** I vaguely - very, very vaguely - recall one of thoes discovery/history channel "The Science of Superheroes/Comicbooks" shows from quite a few years ago(I believe it
* Aside from JustEatGilligan, why doesn't Ross just order himself a sniper and have
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* Why are the soldiers
** This is (sort of) explained in
** A lot of
**
*** Because
** Why would it make ''less'' sense
*** And because unless you hit him in the
*** Worst case, you might end up managing to ''only'' kill Banner, leaving a potentially brain-damaged and now ''completely'' out of control Hulk behind...
* Why does Ross' mustache vanish when he becomes the
** Presumably just to keep the character's identity a secret initially...which is a shame, now that you've mentioned it, because a raging red giant with that ridiculous mustache would be hilarious.
** The creators themselves were asked this, and
* Has the Hulk ever rejoined the Avengers (or even been offered) since he first quit in
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** He's always been more or less an unofficial official member. He helps out on
* Why didn't the death of Betty Ross trigger the creation of the Green Scar persona?
** Her death wasn't the result of [[WhatTheHellHero his so-called "friends" on Earth betraying him.]]
** The Green Scar wasn't called so at the time but was seen before, Planet Hulk, back when Hulk was made into a Horseman Of Apocalypse. Minus the fanatical {{Brainwashing}}, it's the exact same personality and it was caused by the exact same thing. Hulk and Banner working together. Grief alone doesn't
** Bruce is smart enough to realize that he's not creating the next great hero, he'd be creating the next great ''weapon''. As for no reason to believe any negative consequences? The Red Skull is plenty of reason to believe there's negative consequences to doing an imperfect serum.
** Okay, fair enough, but the fact remains that if you tell him that he's supposed to be working on a defense against radiation, then he's going to give you a defense against radiation, as opposed to the SuperSerum you were hoping for.
** Given Ross' MoreDakka approach to hunting for the Hulk, thinking things through doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
** The best thing to do is just pay for a guy who'd do it anyway.
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* Why
** Because they wanted to "improve" on the original results. And his actual transformation happens because Blonsky threatens the doc into giving it to him, not because of an injection that the military gave him.
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* I know about the novelization calling him that, but why do people treat the idea
** Because the
*** Is [[spoiler: General Ross]] really a villain in the
** He's a Hulk soldier without the anger issues, he's a great choice. Besides, he was originally just given missions by Cap in order to make up for all the stuff he did before. After proving to them time and time again that he was geniunely a good guy who would help them save the
*** The Avengers have a long history of letting reformed criminals join, going all the way back to Cap's Kooky Quartet. The second lineup of the Avengers, and 3 out of 4 were just reformed supervillians.
* Does Spider-man know who Red Hulk is? In ''Avenging Spider-man'' he refers to his military background and calls him General! Did I miss something?
** Spider-man's Avengers membership no doubt gave him access to the appropriate intel or
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* In the episode "Prometheus", if there is enough gamma radiation being emitted by the meteor to keep Banner perpetually stuck between forms, why isn't it having any effect on anyone else, and why aren't radiation detectors going off to alert people to the high concentration of radiation in the Prometheus facility?
** In the 70's, the effects of radiation were still not well understood. In addition, The Hulk is more sensitive to gamma radiation than normal humans.
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* In the episode "Never Give A Trucker An Even Break", why did David mess around with calling the operator and directory assistance while trying to get a hold of the police, when he could have just called 911?
** This was in 1978, and 911 was not in common use at the time. By 1979, only 29% of the US population could dial 911, and they were in the more populous cities. TimeMarchesOn
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* In the episode "Prometheus", if there is enough gamma radiation being emitted by the meteor to keep Banner perpetually stuck between forms, why isn't it having any effect on anyone else, and why aren't radiation detectors going off to alert people to the high concentration of radiation in the Prometheus facility?
** In the 70's, the effects of radiation were still not well understood. In addition, The Hulk is more sensitive to gamma radiation than normal humans.
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* In the episode "Never Give A Trucker An Even Break", why did David mess around with calling the operator and directory assistance while trying to get a hold of the police, when he could have just called 911?
** This was in 1978, and 911 was not in common use at the time. By 1979, only 29% of the US population could dial 911, and they were in the more populous cities. TimeMarchesOn
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* In the episode "Prometheus", if there is enough gamma radiation being emitted by the meteor to keep Banner perpetually stuck between forms, why isn't it having any effect on anyone else, and why aren't radiation detectors going off to alert people to the high concentration of radiation in the Prometheus facility?
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* In the episode "Never Give A Trucker An Even Break", why did David mess around with calling the operator and directory assistance while trying to get a hold of the police, when he could have just called 911?
** This was in 1978, and 911 was not in common use at the time. By 1979, only 29% of the US population could dial 911, and they were in the more populous cities. TimeMarchesOn
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* In the episode "Prometheus", if there is enough gamma radiation being emitted by the meteor to keep Banner perpetually stuck between forms, why isn't it having any effect on anyone else, and why aren't radiation detectors going off to alert people to the high concentration of radiation in the Prometheus facility?
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* In the episode "Never Give A Trucker An Even Break", why did David mess around with calling the operator and directory assistance while trying to get a hold of the police, when he could have just called 911?
** This was in 1978, and 911 was not in common use at the time. By 1979, only 29% of the US population could dial 911, and they were in the more populous cities. TimeMarchesOn
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!The 2008 movie
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** Blonsky mentions the need for heavy firepower after the mission in Brazil. Ross planned for Banner to be sedated and not have a hulk out at all, but someone jumped the gun. The plan was probably similiar to the one in NYC, hit Banner with a traq dart and rush in and restrain him.
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** Blonsky mentions the need for heavy firepower after the mission in Brazil. Ross planned for Banner to be sedated and not have a hulk out at all, but someone jumped the gun. The plan was probably similiar similar to the one in NYC, hit Banner with a traq dart and rush in and restrain him.
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** If capturing the Hulk were a SHIELD mission, Nick Fury, Phil Coulson or somebody would probably had Black Widow sneak up behind Banner and taze him, or have Hawkeye snipe him from like a mile away. But then, SHIELD is a spy agency, specializing in stealthy methods in accomplishing their objectives. Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross is an Army general who probably earned his bombastic nickname by using blockbusting "shock and awe" type tactics to obliterate the foe.
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* I know about the novelization calling him that, but why do people treat the idea that a grown white man was playing a Korean child prodigy as totally believable? That's like saying the cop who Enver Gjokaj played in the Avengers is Alex Wilder of the Runaways or something. I just want to know why the MCU trivia page and TheOtherWiki cite it as a fact.
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* I know about the novelization calling him that, but why do people treat the idea that a grown white man was playing a Korean child prodigy as totally believable? That's like saying the cop who Enver Gjokaj played in the Avengers is Alex Wilder of the Runaways or something. I just want to know why the MCU trivia page and TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki cite it as a fact.
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** Starr being Amadeus is now {{Jossed}} - Helen Cho, who is Amadeus's mother in the comics, appeared in ''Age of Ultron'', and she was too young to have a child as old as Starr's character.
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** Starr being Amadeus Because the novelization is now {{Jossed}} - Helen Cho, who the only place that character is Amadeus's mother named. As for the difference between the character in the comics, appeared in ''Age of Ultron'', comics and she was too young to have the actor, many times the race, age, or gender of characters are changed for adaptations for a child as old as Starr's character.variety of reasons.
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** There is a similar, more detailed discussion on the Captain America: Civil War headscratchers. Though it boils down to though we never see him get authorization to operate stateside or in Brazil. But both are public acts (Ross has an US Army command vehicle in Brazil) and he has help from local authorities (There's a Brazilian soldier in the command vehicle with him, plus the FBI and NYPD help stateside) more then likely he had the proper authority but the movie doesn't get bogged down by having scenes showing that permission being granted. And remember, Banner has been on the run for a few years when the movie starts. Any authority to operate in the US would have been granted before the movie started.
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** Why would it make ''less'' sense for the ''earlier'' movie to use the ''earlier'' uniforms? Simple answer: In the MCU, the military was still using BDU at the time of ''Hulk'' and switched to ACU in time for Avengers.
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** This may be the cause for his [[KickedUpstairs "promotion" to Secretary of State]] in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.
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* Why are the soldiers in this movie wearing BDU instead of ACU? The U.S. Army retired the BDU entirely before this movie was released, and it seems unlikely that the ACU would be unavailable to the studio, or that General Ross and his forces would be using uniforms that were on the verge of being retired. It makes even less sense if this movie is supposed to take place (at most) a few years before ''Film/TheAvengers'', where we see soldiers in ACU during the battle of New York.
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* Why are the soldiers in this movie wearing BDU instead of ACU? The U.S. Army retired the BDU entirely before this movie was released, and it seems unlikely that the ACU would be unavailable to the studio, or that General Ross and his forces would be using uniforms that were on the verge of being retired. It makes even less sense if this movie is supposed to take place (at most) a few years before ''Film/TheAvengers'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', where we see soldiers in ACU during the battle of New York.
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*** The best thing to do is just pay for a guy who'd do it anyway.
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